The Giants fully intend to have Pierre-Paul on their roster for the 2015 season, a person with knowledge of the situation told NJ Advance Media. Unauthorized to speak publicly on the situation, the person requested anonymity.
Can't disagree with you more. It's in the Giants' best interest to turn this team around and control the cap. JPP doesn't solve that if he plays 8-10 games this year (I think he'll end up playing less than that).
Do the Giants run the risk of JPP turning his career around by signing somewhere else? Yes. But he's only good to them this year. He's not coming back. And they run a far greater risk monetarily by paying him money to be less capable than he's been in the past few years.
Agreed that they shouldn't pay him even eight million this year.
But no other team is going to pay him that much, either,(Oakland?) If he takes a chance with another team in this situation than he hasn't learned anything and might as well let him go.
RE: People here always want to dump anyone who dose something
stupid. This might have taught this very immature young man the lesson he needed to learn from life. Given a second chance, maybe he will knuckle down and make use of his God-given ability.
Don't believe all these former football players saying that he will never be the same. They just want media attention.
Hell, losing a finger never slowed down Jerry Garcia, did it?
Same thing. (Well maybe a little different, but I bet people were saying that Garcia was done as an elite guitarist.)
If there's ever been anything like this in NFL history, I'm not aware of it. Nobody knows. There's no precedent to look at.
The skin grafts alone would be a huge recovery challenge. If the information out there is correct, they didn't just take his finger, they took the knuckle bone that goes down into the hand. His hand will actually be narrower. No one knows what kind of feeling he'll have. Will his fingers be numb, making it difficult for him to fight off blocks or tackle ball carriers? Or will he be hypersensitive, and therefore in agony from game play?
Fans are impulsive. The team can't afford to be. More information is needed. But I bet that as that information comes out, JPP's value plummets. He's going to have a very, very hard time.
that they welcome him with loving arms.
JPP's camp is leaking that they will control the timing of his signing.
fans are the only ones yelling dump him now.
in several weeks, after the Giants say everything right, and JPP says everything wrong, the Giants can sigh loudly, proclaim they gave him every chance, and pull the plug.
there's nothing to be gained logically, or PR, by dumping him now.
"Send a message. Save the money," one NFL executive said of what he would do in this situation. "But it's a typical case of long-term interest of team versus short-term interest of [general manager Jerry Reese and coach Tom Coughlin], who need to win games now."
Spoken like a guy who is either in the NFC East and wants to see the Giants become weaker or wants to see JPP as a free agent so his team could potentially have a shot at him. lol
The Giants don't need to send a message. JPP already screwed himself over. All they have to do is sit back and see how he performs whenever he returns to the team. Either way, I can't see any teams offering him what the Giants were unless he looks very good late in the season.
On the topic of dumping him now vs. dumping him later,
the Giants have until July 15 to pull the tag. That's 6 days from now. Granted, a lot can happen in 6 days. JPP's camp can continue to try to stonewall the Giants until then, which will either force the Giant's hand in pulling the tag or keeping the tag in place, which guarantees JPP at least some of his salary.
There's not an infinite timeframe here.
Reeses' You mention JPP will "knuckle Down" after learning lesson
lighting firecrackers from my punk and throwing them. My very last firecracker of the night exploded in my hand before I threw it.
The hand just felt numb, as I walked slowly to a house that had on its porch light. I cautiously looked and found that the hand and its fingers were still all there. Only some blood blisters.
These were only the one inch Macau crackers, so maybe that saved me. So I'm in favor of giving a guy another chance, but only if he comes pleading for it. Otherwise he really hasn't learned anything.
...without a reliable prognosis to base my opinion on.
But I will say this: if the Giants have reason to believe that by season's end, JPP has the potential to be playing at a Pro Bowl level, then they should not pull the tag.
The strategy would be to put him on NFI as soon as he signs the tender and keep him there for as long as he qualifies, thus saving both a roster spot and more importantly, salary cap space that can be applied to next year's cap. Once JPP is healthy enough to take practice with the team, they should ease him into the line-up with the goal of having him at the top of his game by December for the final playoff push and playoff run to follow.
And when the season is all over and done with, the Giants will still have options for maximizing the return on the investment they've made in JPP. Whether that means negotiating a long term deal, trading him for a 2016 draft pick or two to a team that's willing to pay him, or just letting him go free with the hope that it will mean a valuable comp pick in the 2017 draft.
Again, this strategy is predicated on the supposition that JPP is still physically capable of playing at a Pro Bowl level. This is a determination to be made by the Giants doctors and until that happens, the Giants should sit tight and not show their hand (meaning no reason to go public with thoughts of rescinding the tender).
The entire league is watching how the Giants handle this. If they are ruthless (as many fans want them to be), other players will notice that, and it'll make free agent recruiting harder. If they show good faith with the player, and are supportive, then they look like a great place to work. That matters in a league with free agency.
RE: When I was about 10 years old, I spent the whole 4th
lighting firecrackers from my punk and throwing them. My very last firecracker of the night exploded in my hand before I threw it.
The hand just felt numb, as I walked slowly to a house that had on its porch light. I cautiously looked and found that the hand and its fingers were still all there. Only some blood blisters.
These were only the one inch Macau crackers, so maybe that saved me. So I'm in favor of giving a guy another chance, but only if he comes pleading for it. Otherwise he really hasn't learned anything.
I had a similar thing happen to me when I was about the same age. I was about to throw a firecracker when someone stepped in front of me, so I held back and it went off in my hand. Same results as you, some fingers turned a little purple and blistered up, but no need to see a doctor and it healed just fine.
Giants have not spoken with him/examined him, have no real idea about the full extent of the injuries, except what is in the media. You certainly would not keep him/pay him (a lot), if it does not make sense. Time will tell. There is more to play out with this.
they have until July 15 to negotiate a long term deal. After that the only option is the tag. but, as long as JPP doesn't sign, the Giants can pull the tag at any time.
the problem with your plan is that JPP doesn't want to lose half a season's pay, and while on NFI, he's barred from practices/meetings (at least during the season). Per Kim Jones, Giants have said they wouldn't NFI him, so that he can be mentally prepared.
as I said above, the Giants are saying all the right things, hoping that either JPP cooperates and they can salvage something out of the season or that he remains aloof and takes the heat off them if they have to make an unpleasant decision.
That is because it was just a firecracker and your hand was open. Had you closed your hand around the firecracker the damage would be much greater and likely fingers would be gone. Whatever JPP was messing around with had to be much more powerfull than a firecracker. Hell if I had his bank account I would be buying all kinds of stuff for the 4th of July and also making some of my own. Rockets and mortars are easy to make and if you like this sort of thing you can have all kinds of fun. However there is always the danger of how unpredictable fireworks can be. Nothing worried me more than a fast fuse that malfunctions and burns instantly as you light it, if you are holding something in your hand when you light it you have no chance with a fast fuse. Anyway accepting the inherit danger and consequences has to be part of the deal if your going to play with fire.
A player coming off that injury is not worth $15 million, I don't care who he is. If Reese drafted a player in the same exact situation in the spring he'd be vilified and rightly so.
Keeping JPP compounds the error they made when they franchised him. And saying it's a short term view doesn't make sense either, because counting on him to be anything in 2015 is unreasonable bordering on completely idiotic.
Everyone is overlooking that the Giants have the trump card with the non football injury designation. Until they know his real prognosis it makes no sense to do anything. If the injury turns out to delay his return then put him on NFI and save his salary. But you have to wait and find out his status first.
They'll keep him this season and see if he can still play at a high level. And if he can't, they'll let him walk after the season, which is a strong certainty at this point, IMO.
A player coming off that injury is not worth $15 million, I don't care who he is. If Reese drafted a player in the same exact situation in the spring he'd be vilified and rightly so.
Keeping JPP compounds the error they made when they franchised him. And saying it's a short term view doesn't make sense either, because counting on him to be anything in 2015 is unreasonable bordering on completely idiotic.
I disagree. And it's not really about whether or not he's worth $15M for the year, it never was. It's about whether or not he can help them win a Super Bowl this year and it remains about that. I'm not one of those who believes the Giants are in a rebuilding year. I believe they have a very good shot at making the playoffs (with or without JPP) and once they make the playoffs anything can happen.
So it matters not so much what JPP can do for the team in September and October, it matters what he can do for them in December, January, and February. That's when they are hoping he can earn his paycheck. And if all goes well, he will still be an asset they can get a return on when the season is over, regardless of whether or not he is in their plans for 2016.
But they get nothing in return for him if they rescind the tender now other than the $15M in cap space, which holds no real value for them in 2015 and only holds future value, some of which they will be able to save when he goes on NFI.
So until they know for sure that there is no possibility that he will be a plus player come the playoff run, they should continue as planned.
yeah, it's marginally entertaining to watch a town fireworks show on the 4th, but I've never understood the fascination with firing them off yourself. Maybe its just me
Another tam may not pay him 15M this year, but sure as hell can give him a 15M signing bonus for 3 or 4 years with a promise to redo the deal in a year. He has still not played as a 26 yr old
Look at what 1st rd players just got for zero snaps. Teams would line up to offer him
Eli is getting a new contract whether JPP gets 15M or not. Same with Prince. Regardless of JPP, they are not going to pay E. Mathis 8M per year
The Giants hold all leverage - pulling the tag gives that up
then the NFL source quoted in the article who said if the Giants did not pull the tender, it's not about the team's long term interest but the short-term, 2015 interest of Reese and TC to save their jobs after three years sans playoffs--he nailed it.
then the NFL source quoted in the article who said if the Giants did not pull the tender, it's not about the team's long term interest but the short-term, 2015 interest of Reese and TC to save their jobs after three years sans playoffs--he nailed it.
of course its in their short term interests. But I don't see how it would hurt them down the line either. JPP gives the giants the best chance to make the playoffs. Which should be all that matters. It def does to Coughlin and it should to everyone else. We have one quality player on the defensive line without JPP. The rest are unproven and/or young.
anything. Fine, the Giants control the situation, blah, blah, blah. But when it comes down to it, safe money says JPP is not contributing much this year. He is no saving anyone's jobs, maybe not even his own.
We'll see how things play out but if the Giants "gamble" with millions of dollars, I fear that it is not going to be money well spent.
I actually don't even think we've heard it all yet on the hand but I am speculating.
Nobody knows what JPP can do this year. Nobody knows whether he'll be able to play. (Can he play the whole year in a club cast if necessary? Maybe.) If he can play, nobody knows whether he'll be remotely the same player. If they let him go and save the money, and he recovers to be an above-average starting DE, they're screwed. If they keep him and spend the money, and he turns out to be unable to play at a high level anymore, they're screwed.
I think they are wise not to do anything (including pulling their tender) until they have more information. But wow, they are in a bind.
Dane, I get what you're saying above but I think you have chosen to state it in an unfortunate way.
The Giants are screwed every which way?
Not really, life and team play will go on for them. JPP is THE ONE WHO IS SCREWED.
that they welcome him with loving arms.
JPP's camp is leaking that they will control the timing of his signing.
fans are the only ones yelling dump him now.
in several weeks, after the Giants say everything right, and JPP says everything wrong, the Giants can sigh loudly, proclaim they gave him every chance, and pull the plug.
there's nothing to be gained logically, or PR, by dumping him now.
"Fans are impulsive. The team can't afford to be. More information is needed. But I bet that as that information comes out, JPP's value plummets. He's going to have a very, very hard time."
RE: On the topic of dumping him now vs. dumping him later,
the Giants have until July 15 to pull the tag. That's 6 days from now. Granted, a lot can happen in 6 days. JPP's camp can continue to try to stonewall the Giants until then, which will either force the Giant's hand in pulling the tag or keeping the tag in place, which guarantees JPP at least some of his salary.
There's not an infinite timeframe here.
Except that as soon as JPP does sign the tag, the Giants will have every right to designate him NFI, and they completely control when he comes off the NFI list. They can sit his ass down for the year and pay him ZERO.
Does anyone know the cap results of that? Will the unpaid cap $ rollover to next year if he's designated NFI?
I haven't seen that important detail mentioned anywhere.
JPP does NOT hold the cards here, the Giants are sitting on trumps.
RE: People here always want to dump anyone who dose something
stupid. This might have taught this very immature young man the lesson he needed to learn from life. Given a second chance, maybe he will knuckle down and make use of his God-given ability.
Don't believe all these former football players saying that he will never be the same. They just want media attention.
Hell, losing a finger never slowed down Jerry Garcia, did it?
Same thing. (Well maybe a little different, but I bet people were saying that Garcia was done as an elite guitarist.)
Jerry was 5 years old when he lost that finger so it's not really an appropriate comparison. I doubt he was much of a guitarists at that age!
the Giants don't have to pay him until he plays. He can't play until he can pass a physical. So the Giants don't really have a lot to lose by keeping the tender on him. There's not much of a need to reach for cap savings, because there aren't any high-priced free agents on the market who would demand that space.
the problem with your plan is that JPP doesn't want to lose half a season's pay, and while on NFI, he's barred from practices/meetings (at least during the season). Per Kim Jones, Giants have said they wouldn't NFI him, so that he can be mentally prepared.
as I said above, the Giants are saying all the right things, hoping that either JPP cooperates and they can salvage something out of the season or that he remains aloof and takes the heat off them if they have to make an unpleasant decision.
Sorry, fkap, just seeing this now. I didn't realize players on NFI were barred from meetings as well as practice. Even so, just like with PUP, there will be window of a few weeks (once the six weeks are up) in which he is allowed to practice with the team and not take up a roster spot.
Ultimately it all depends on what kind of prognosis the Giants's doctors give him once they get a chance to examine him. If that day doesn't come until a few weeks into the season already, then so be it. But until that day comes, it's not in the team's interest to project anything but the most positive of outlooks (and this is true for a variety of reasons including legal).
For me, the question is what kind of performance can the team expect out of him in December and January? Can he help them win a Super Bowl in February the way Osi's return from injury in the latter half of 2011 helped propel the Giants to the Super Bowl four Februaries ago? Okay, so that's two questions, but can you picture the Giants at 6-4 going into the bye with the cake part of the schedule up ahead and both Beatty and JPP returning from PUP and NFI respectively?
Okay, okay, so now the three questions are: what kind of performance can we expect out of JPP in December and January? can his return from injury mid-season help propel the Giants to a Super Bowl in the same way that Osi's return in 2011 did? and can you picture the ramifications of a healthy Beatty and a healthy JPP being added to the 6-4 Giants?
people want to keep the franchise tender in place to the tune of $15M and the Giants reportedly said they would keep the tender in place if JPP agreed to be in camp on Day 1 and if so, they would not put him on NFI.
So effectively, some and the Giants are fine locking up cap space and effectively paying a $15M option on JPP being able to play in the near term and at his abilities before the injury.
Because it won't be known for a while how effective he can be, so it is effectively a $15M option on a 'fully capable JPP'.
I just find it shocking how many people would take out a $15M option on a 'fully capable JPP' based on the injury he has which is "somewhere worse than an amputated index finger all the way past the knuckle" that includes some level of burns, some level of fractures, some level of skin grafts and some potential level of nerve damage.
I just don't see it. I hope for JPP's sake as a person, I am wrong. I really do.
this is such an odd decision that it makes me think that NYG is trying things behind the scenes such as an extension before the 15th guaranteeing JPP his 14.8m (any maybe a little more) by extending the contract thru say, 2017.
Whether JPP goes for that is up to him, but NYG makes the proposal. If JPP says no they pull the tag.
It seems to make ZERO sense to pay him his full 2015 salary, rehabbing on the teams dime and then having him walk after the season.
(Apologies if this has been brought up. Busy today and LOTS of JPP threads)
this is such an odd decision that it makes me think that NYG is trying things behind the scenes such as an extension before the 15th guaranteeing JPP his 14.8m (any maybe a little more) by extending the contract thru say, 2017.
Whether JPP goes for that is up to him, but NYG makes the proposal. If JPP says no they pull the tag.
It seems to make ZERO sense to pay him his full 2015 salary, rehabbing on the teams dime and then having him walk after the season.
(Apologies if this has been brought up. Busy today and LOTS of JPP threads)
This is coming from someone who is a fan of Jerry Reese...if the Giants extend JPP everyone in the front office should be fired.
this is such an odd decision that it makes me think that NYG is trying things behind the scenes such as an extension before the 15th guaranteeing JPP his 14.8m (any maybe a little more) by extending the contract thru say, 2017.
Whether JPP goes for that is up to him, but NYG makes the proposal. If JPP says no they pull the tag.
It seems to make ZERO sense to pay him his full 2015 salary, rehabbing on the teams dime and then having him walk after the season.
(Apologies if this has been brought up. Busy today and LOTS of JPP threads)
This is coming from someone who is a fan of Jerry Reese...if the Giants extend JPP everyone in the front office should be fired.
Oh, I'm not suggesting NYG do so, but I'm trying to think along with what maybe they ARE thinking.
Like I said, this (to me and obviously you) is a very strange decision.
Do the Giants run the risk of JPP turning his career around by signing somewhere else? Yes. But he's only good to them this year. He's not coming back. And they run a far greater risk monetarily by paying him money to be less capable than he's been in the past few years.
Don't believe all these former football players saying that he will never be the same. They just want media attention.
Hell, losing a finger never slowed down Jerry Garcia, did it?
Same thing. (Well maybe a little different, but I bet people were saying that Garcia was done as an elite guitarist.)
If there's ever been anything like this in NFL history, I'm not aware of it. Nobody knows. There's no precedent to look at.
The skin grafts alone would be a huge recovery challenge. If the information out there is correct, they didn't just take his finger, they took the knuckle bone that goes down into the hand. His hand will actually be narrower. No one knows what kind of feeling he'll have. Will his fingers be numb, making it difficult for him to fight off blocks or tackle ball carriers? Or will he be hypersensitive, and therefore in agony from game play?
Fans are impulsive. The team can't afford to be. More information is needed. But I bet that as that information comes out, JPP's value plummets. He's going to have a very, very hard time.
JPP's camp is leaking that they will control the timing of his signing.
fans are the only ones yelling dump him now.
in several weeks, after the Giants say everything right, and JPP says everything wrong, the Giants can sigh loudly, proclaim they gave him every chance, and pull the plug.
there's nothing to be gained logically, or PR, by dumping him now.
Spoken like a guy who is either in the NFC East and wants to see the Giants become weaker or wants to see JPP as a free agent so his team could potentially have a shot at him. lol
The Giants don't need to send a message. JPP already screwed himself over. All they have to do is sit back and see how he performs whenever he returns to the team. Either way, I can't see any teams offering him what the Giants were unless he looks very good late in the season.
There's not an infinite timeframe here.
The hand just felt numb, as I walked slowly to a house that had on its porch light. I cautiously looked and found that the hand and its fingers were still all there. Only some blood blisters.
These were only the one inch Macau crackers, so maybe that saved me. So I'm in favor of giving a guy another chance, but only if he comes pleading for it. Otherwise he really hasn't learned anything.
But I will say this: if the Giants have reason to believe that by season's end, JPP has the potential to be playing at a Pro Bowl level, then they should not pull the tag.
The strategy would be to put him on NFI as soon as he signs the tender and keep him there for as long as he qualifies, thus saving both a roster spot and more importantly, salary cap space that can be applied to next year's cap. Once JPP is healthy enough to take practice with the team, they should ease him into the line-up with the goal of having him at the top of his game by December for the final playoff push and playoff run to follow.
And when the season is all over and done with, the Giants will still have options for maximizing the return on the investment they've made in JPP. Whether that means negotiating a long term deal, trading him for a 2016 draft pick or two to a team that's willing to pay him, or just letting him go free with the hope that it will mean a valuable comp pick in the 2017 draft.
Again, this strategy is predicated on the supposition that JPP is still physically capable of playing at a Pro Bowl level. This is a determination to be made by the Giants doctors and until that happens, the Giants should sit tight and not show their hand (meaning no reason to go public with thoughts of rescinding the tender).
The hand just felt numb, as I walked slowly to a house that had on its porch light. I cautiously looked and found that the hand and its fingers were still all there. Only some blood blisters.
These were only the one inch Macau crackers, so maybe that saved me. So I'm in favor of giving a guy another chance, but only if he comes pleading for it. Otherwise he really hasn't learned anything.
I had a similar thing happen to me when I was about the same age. I was about to throw a firecracker when someone stepped in front of me, so I held back and it went off in my hand. Same results as you, some fingers turned a little purple and blistered up, but no need to see a doctor and it healed just fine.
as I said above, the Giants are saying all the right things, hoping that either JPP cooperates and they can salvage something out of the season or that he remains aloof and takes the heat off them if they have to make an unpleasant decision.
Keeping JPP compounds the error they made when they franchised him. And saying it's a short term view doesn't make sense either, because counting on him to be anything in 2015 is unreasonable bordering on completely idiotic.
Keeping JPP compounds the error they made when they franchised him. And saying it's a short term view doesn't make sense either, because counting on him to be anything in 2015 is unreasonable bordering on completely idiotic.
I disagree. And it's not really about whether or not he's worth $15M for the year, it never was. It's about whether or not he can help them win a Super Bowl this year and it remains about that. I'm not one of those who believes the Giants are in a rebuilding year. I believe they have a very good shot at making the playoffs (with or without JPP) and once they make the playoffs anything can happen.
So it matters not so much what JPP can do for the team in September and October, it matters what he can do for them in December, January, and February. That's when they are hoping he can earn his paycheck. And if all goes well, he will still be an asset they can get a return on when the season is over, regardless of whether or not he is in their plans for 2016.
But they get nothing in return for him if they rescind the tender now other than the $15M in cap space, which holds no real value for them in 2015 and only holds future value, some of which they will be able to save when he goes on NFI.
So until they know for sure that there is no possibility that he will be a plus player come the playoff run, they should continue as planned.
JPPs best chance to maximize income is not sign until he can be closer to playing.
Look at what 1st rd players just got for zero snaps. Teams would line up to offer him
Eli is getting a new contract whether JPP gets 15M or not. Same with Prince. Regardless of JPP, they are not going to pay E. Mathis 8M per year
The Giants hold all leverage - pulling the tag gives that up
of course its in their short term interests. But I don't see how it would hurt them down the line either. JPP gives the giants the best chance to make the playoffs. Which should be all that matters. It def does to Coughlin and it should to everyone else. We have one quality player on the defensive line without JPP. The rest are unproven and/or young.
We'll see how things play out but if the Giants "gamble" with millions of dollars, I fear that it is not going to be money well spent.
I actually don't even think we've heard it all yet on the hand but I am speculating.
I will be shocked if he wins a starting job.
I think they are wise not to do anything (including pulling their tender) until they have more information. But wow, they are in a bind.
Dane, I get what you're saying above but I think you have chosen to state it in an unfortunate way.
The Giants are screwed every which way?
Not really, life and team play will go on for them. JPP is THE ONE WHO IS SCREWED.
JPP's camp is leaking that they will control the timing of his signing.
fans are the only ones yelling dump him now.
in several weeks, after the Giants say everything right, and JPP says everything wrong, the Giants can sigh loudly, proclaim they gave him every chance, and pull the plug.
there's nothing to be gained logically, or PR, by dumping him now.
Bingo!
There's not an infinite timeframe here.
Except that as soon as JPP does sign the tag, the Giants will have every right to designate him NFI, and they completely control when he comes off the NFI list. They can sit his ass down for the year and pay him ZERO.
Does anyone know the cap results of that? Will the unpaid cap $ rollover to next year if he's designated NFI?
I haven't seen that important detail mentioned anywhere.
JPP does NOT hold the cards here, the Giants are sitting on trumps.
Don't believe all these former football players saying that he will never be the same. They just want media attention.
Hell, losing a finger never slowed down Jerry Garcia, did it?
Same thing. (Well maybe a little different, but I bet people were saying that Garcia was done as an elite guitarist.)
Jerry was 5 years old when he lost that finger so it's not really an appropriate comparison. I doubt he was much of a guitarists at that age!
I do understand the argument that you can reallocate that cap space to resign core guys and get another player.
as I said above, the Giants are saying all the right things, hoping that either JPP cooperates and they can salvage something out of the season or that he remains aloof and takes the heat off them if they have to make an unpleasant decision.
Sorry, fkap, just seeing this now. I didn't realize players on NFI were barred from meetings as well as practice. Even so, just like with PUP, there will be window of a few weeks (once the six weeks are up) in which he is allowed to practice with the team and not take up a roster spot.
Ultimately it all depends on what kind of prognosis the Giants's doctors give him once they get a chance to examine him. If that day doesn't come until a few weeks into the season already, then so be it. But until that day comes, it's not in the team's interest to project anything but the most positive of outlooks (and this is true for a variety of reasons including legal).
For me, the question is what kind of performance can the team expect out of him in December and January? Can he help them win a Super Bowl in February the way Osi's return from injury in the latter half of 2011 helped propel the Giants to the Super Bowl four Februaries ago? Okay, so that's two questions, but can you picture the Giants at 6-4 going into the bye with the cake part of the schedule up ahead and both Beatty and JPP returning from PUP and NFI respectively?
Okay, okay, so now the three questions are: what kind of performance can we expect out of JPP in December and January? can his return from injury mid-season help propel the Giants to a Super Bowl in the same way that Osi's return in 2011 did? and can you picture the ramifications of a healthy Beatty and a healthy JPP being added to the 6-4 Giants?
And how can I forget the element of surprise?
So effectively, some and the Giants are fine locking up cap space and effectively paying a $15M option on JPP being able to play in the near term and at his abilities before the injury.
Because it won't be known for a while how effective he can be, so it is effectively a $15M option on a 'fully capable JPP'.
I just find it shocking how many people would take out a $15M option on a 'fully capable JPP' based on the injury he has which is "somewhere worse than an amputated index finger all the way past the knuckle" that includes some level of burns, some level of fractures, some level of skin grafts and some potential level of nerve damage.
I just don't see it. I hope for JPP's sake as a person, I am wrong. I really do.
Lol, probably.
Whether JPP goes for that is up to him, but NYG makes the proposal. If JPP says no they pull the tag.
It seems to make ZERO sense to pay him his full 2015 salary, rehabbing on the teams dime and then having him walk after the season.
(Apologies if this has been brought up. Busy today and LOTS of JPP threads)
Whether JPP goes for that is up to him, but NYG makes the proposal. If JPP says no they pull the tag.
It seems to make ZERO sense to pay him his full 2015 salary, rehabbing on the teams dime and then having him walk after the season.
(Apologies if this has been brought up. Busy today and LOTS of JPP threads)
This is coming from someone who is a fan of Jerry Reese...if the Giants extend JPP everyone in the front office should be fired.
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this is such an odd decision that it makes me think that NYG is trying things behind the scenes such as an extension before the 15th guaranteeing JPP his 14.8m (any maybe a little more) by extending the contract thru say, 2017.
Whether JPP goes for that is up to him, but NYG makes the proposal. If JPP says no they pull the tag.
It seems to make ZERO sense to pay him his full 2015 salary, rehabbing on the teams dime and then having him walk after the season.
(Apologies if this has been brought up. Busy today and LOTS of JPP threads)
This is coming from someone who is a fan of Jerry Reese...if the Giants extend JPP everyone in the front office should be fired.
Oh, I'm not suggesting NYG do so, but I'm trying to think along with what maybe they ARE thinking.
Like I said, this (to me and obviously you) is a very strange decision.
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