what happens if/when taylor gets hurt or if someone goes down in camp? there is little to no depth at the position. josh gordy? Bennett Jackson? Thompson and Currie (both of which may be destined more for the P/S than final roster).
While he wasn't DC, he was secondary coach - so he and Miles should have a sense of what is expected. Perhaps, familiarity is better term. Spags is familiar with Miles strengths/weaknesses. Miles was coached by Spags so he will be familiar with what Spags expects. Spags will undoubtedly incorporate things from the Ravens into what he does for NYG.
Not much out there anyway. And, you have players trying to transition into the position (Jackson) and others who are inexperienced and problems staying healthy.
but with a veteran, who DC is familiar with, reduces the anxiety factor a bit.
Look at what J. T. Thomas did for Jax. NOt a starter but came in and performed well "settled things down" - if Miles does that, great. If he does more it's greavy.
We did that partly because the LBs blew and were slow and awful in coverage. When Grant was playing the 3rd safety role, he was typically matching up with the TE, not a 3rd WR and that's why we added JT Thomas and to a lesser extent Casillas this offseason. They add much needed speed and coverage ability to the D.
Now obviously, if teams go 3-4 WR, we'll see the Giants in nickel D, but I don't see them going to the 3 safety look against "base" offenses (eg 21, 11, 12 personnel groupings).
that the same guys who bitch are not the same guys that support the moves.
I'm sure they do realize that. The point is that no matter what move JR makes, there is a % that loves it, and (seemingly) almost equal % that hates it. No-win situation...
JonC, you da man. I recalled someone knowledgable touting him. Hopefully he gets outperformed by the guys we drafted, but he could be valuable STs help and backup depth.
That would be a good thing.
A number of posters have been all over this guy for a long time...
...going back before the draft. I'm not at all surprised given the scary inexperience among our current group. Lots of potential and athletic ability but not a single proven commodity and no veteran leadership. If this gets done as expected it's a smart and solid signing.
input on us picking up Miles since he coached this guy in Baltimore and if he wasn't a decent player why would Spags even want him for his defense.....
input on us picking up Miles since he coached this guy in Baltimore and if he wasn't a decent player why would Spags even want him for his defense.....
One of the reasons some of us wanted him here when FA began
Isn't perfect, but they had him graded out as the 14th best Safety in the entire NFL. Had a positive grade in every game that he played 30+ snaps. Also had 5 special teams tackles & a blocked FG.
Says he outperformed Will Hill, Darian Stewart & 1st round pick Matt Elam. He's a true FS & probably the best fit to start next to Landon Collins. Jeromy Miles - ( New Window )
This kind of hopeful exuberance over a guy who will not make the opening day roster can only be exhibited on BBI !!! I love it.
Gotta love people who spout opinions about a player they know nothing about.
He's not going to make the roster? He will make it on special teams alone. He will compete with Taylor and Berhe for the starting slot. I would be shocked if those 3 are not all on the roster along with Collins.
You are making a complete fool of yourself. You are clueless.
Thanks for the kind words and remembering my post. Hopefully he is as positive an addition as we all hope.
And Jon C. - you remember correctly. I am an eternal optimist. The Y27 changed to Y28 after the Yankees won #27.
Hope to be changing my BBI handle to Y29 around November 1st !!!
but didn't we use three corners and three safeties a lot a couple of years ago? Can't remember if it was successful? If so, maybe that's the reason to stock up on guys like Miles.
I'd feel more comfortable with him starting alongside Collins. Can stay healthy and should be able to minimize mistakes.
I'd feel more comfortable with him starting alongside Collins. Can stay healthy and should be able to minimize mistakes.
I know he knows Spags, but how much of "Spags system" do you think the secondary coach ran?
Very funny. HAHA. Well said.
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Very funny. HAHA. Well said.
Seriously, he looks like a very good pickup. Somebody who can challenge for a roster spot, and maybe be a starter in the future. Excellent.
Love that guy. I remember him calling (way in advance) that the Giants would probably sign a little-known LB named Kawika Mitchell.
Not much out there anyway. And, you have players trying to transition into the position (Jackson) and others who are inexperienced and problems staying healthy.
We still need a FS. It's Landon Collins and a bunch of question marks
Did any vets show up to OTA? I'm not sure he'd have been there anyway.
Look at what J. T. Thomas did for Jax. NOt a starter but came in and performed well "settled things down" - if Miles does that, great. If he does more it's greavy.
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why wait until now to sign him? Why not last month so he can at least participate in OTA's?
Did any vets show up to OTA? I'm not sure he'd have been there anyway.
Yes, that was a team OTA - Eli and company were all there...
And he has manged to stay in the NFL for five seasons, and played enough to accumulate 28 tackles last year for a good defense.
Sounds like a good depth signing.
Mike, why so negative?
Injuries can quckly decimate any unit, so why not have as much backup as the team can afford.
Also, maybe this is a clue to the kind of defense Spags plans to develop for the team.
We don't know until we know.
Interesting though and may be how they will help to deal with No JPP.
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We will probably go with the 3 safety look more than the base 4-3. This is a good move.
Interesting though and may be how they will help to deal with No JPP.
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with Landon Collins also on the roster, it is not a good sign that we also need to sign Miles
Mike, why so negative?
Injuries can quckly decimate any unit, so why not have as much backup as the team can afford.
Also, maybe this is a clue to the kind of defense Spags plans to develop for the team.
We don't know until we know.
There is no alternative now.
There is no alternative now.
Hungry and poorly paid compared to their peers is a recipe for good play. I've got high hopes for these guys.
Correct-- they didn't really start doing that very much until they had Deon Grant as the 3rd guy, beginning in 2010.
Now obviously, if teams go 3-4 WR, we'll see the Giants in nickel D, but I don't see them going to the 3 safety look against "base" offenses (eg 21, 11, 12 personnel groupings).
I'm sure they do realize that. The point is that no matter what move JR makes, there is a % that loves it, and (seemingly) almost equal % that hates it. No-win situation...
JonC, you da man. I recalled someone knowledgable touting him. Hopefully he gets outperformed by the guys we drafted, but he could be valuable STs help and backup depth.
That would be a good thing.
Let's hope he makes us forget about Will Hill.
That may be, but nothing wrong with having a player who's actually taken snaps & also knows the D.
One of the reasons some of us wanted him here when FA began
More good news- I read he did ok in those games he started.
Jeromy Miles - ( New Window )
boards.baltimoreravens.com - ( New Window )
^ Some of us were saying this months ago.
But...but...he only started 3 games! He must suck right? :p
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Says he outperformed Will Hill, Darian Stewart & 1st round pick Matt Elam.
^ Some of us were saying this months ago.
But...but...he only started 3 games! He must suck right? :p
This kind of hopeful exuberance over a guy who will not make the opening day roster can only be exhibited on BBI !!! I love it.
This kind of hopeful exuberance over a guy who will not make the opening day roster can only be exhibited on BBI !!! I love it.
Gotta love people who spout opinions about a player they know nothing about.
He's not going to make the roster? He will make it on special teams alone. He will compete with Taylor and Berhe for the starting slot. I would be shocked if those 3 are not all on the roster along with Collins.
You are making a complete fool of yourself. You are clueless.
Thanks for the kind words and remembering my post. Hopefully he is as positive an addition as we all hope.
And Jon C. - you remember correctly. I am an eternal optimist. The Y27 changed to Y28 after the Yankees won #27.
Hope to be changing my BBI handle to Y29 around November 1st !!!
Good summer wishes to all
exactly, if Spags didn't think this guy could help we would never have signed him, just another experienced player at a position of need....