Giants expected to sign Jeromy Miles

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Safety doesn't seem like a weakness anymore

I guess they waited until his price came down.

So now we don't need JPP?

with Landon Collins also on the roster, it is not a good sign that we also need to sign Miles

In comment 12371840 Mike in NY said:

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with Landon Collins also on the roster, it is not a good sign that we also need to sign Miles

Competition doesn't hurt. Plus, Taylor can't stay healthy, Jackson just changed his position to S, who knows how he's progressing.

Not exactly KP. Or even James Butler!


BTW is this KWALL's guy?

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for the other starter next to Collins

In comment 12371840 Mike in NY said:

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with Landon Collins also on the roster, it is not a good sign that we also need to sign Miles

Since when are 5h round picks stone cold locks?

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Not exactly KP. Or even James Butler! BTW is this KWALL's guy?

Ummmm, he is at least as good as James Butler

In comment 12371840 Mike in NY said:

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with Landon Collins also on the roster, it is not a good sign that we also need to sign Miles

Insurance brother, relax. The more the merrier. Some of you guys kill me with this doomsday shit over everything.

In comment 12371840 Mike in NY said:

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with Landon Collins also on the roster, it is not a good sign that we also need to sign Miles

Still a lack of talent and depth at the two spots.

I have been wanting since before the draft.

Some of you guys love to bitch, but don't have a clue what you are talking about.

In comment 12371841 SoZKillA said:

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In comment 12371840 Mike in NY said: Quote: with Landon Collins also on the roster, it is not a good sign that we also need to sign Miles Competition doesn't hurt. Plus, Taylor can't stay healthy, Jackson just changed his position to S, who knows how he's progressing.

The competition is a good thing, plus we may carry more of these guys than you might initially expect. We're likely going to carry 9 or 10 DBs on the 53 man roster and having a guys who could play CB and Safety fill the 9th and/or 10th spots give some flexibility. Guys like Jackson and Thompson might fit that role well.

So figure you start y identifying your 3 best safeties and 4 best corners, to give you personel to run packages ranging from big nickel to dime. Then add one more CB and S as primary backups to protect against injury, brings you to 9. If neither Jackson or Thompson are in that top 9 they might be fighting for one last special teams/additional back up spot at both positions.

In comment 12371848 Curtis in VA said:

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Ummmm, he is at least as good as James Butler

Says who?

I don't know enough about him, but his stat sheet and particularly # of starts show a markedly inferior player to Butler, quite frankly.

Injuries have been killing us as well. And Taylor'a been prone and now Berhe's got some kind continuing injury himself.

has been pining for this guy since March, and then when we sign him, people bitch. Can't win.

Good signing - have to wonder if this has been in the works for a while as it has made a lot of sense from the beginning. I actually think we have pretty solid safety depth at this point with Collins, Miles, Berhe, Taylor, Thompson, Jackson, and maybe Gordy (if he plays safety). Creates some good competition.

In comment 12371844 Curtis in VA said:

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They don't need another DE.

with Dawan Landry? I know he's older but he's a solid vet with a ton of playing experience coming off of a good year.

In comment 12371843 BlueLou said:

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Not exactly KP. Or even James Butler!

I was going to post the same thing. I can't see getting excited over a guy with 3 career starts.

This gets thrown around a lot. You're not getting a pro bowler off the street in july.

In comment 12371848 Curtis in VA said:

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Ummmm, he is at least as good as James Butler

Jeromy Miles has a ways to go before he matches Butler's career...

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New York Giants Butler saw action in 16 games during his rookie season in which he accumulated one start, plus the NFC Wild Card Game, tied for second on the team with 21 special teams tackles (19 solo). He recorded 18 tackles (14 solo), two interceptions, five passes defensed and one fumble recovery in play in dime packages. In 2006, Butler played in 14 regular season games with most of his action coming on special teams but he did see action in dime packages on defense and finished the season with 11 tackles (9 solo), 4 passes defensed and 12 special teams tackles. In Butler's third season (2007), the Giants defeated the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XLII. Butler led the Giants with ten total tackles in the game. In all Butler played in 13 regular season games with 12 starts and started all 4 postseason games at strong safety and finished with 69 tackles (38 solo), 1 interception, 6 passes defensed, and 1 fumble recovery. Butler, played in 15 games with a career-high 14 starts in 2008 and he had 76 tackles (45 solo) and three interceptions and six passes defensed. St. Louis Rams An unrestricted free agent in the 2009 offseason, Butler agreed to terms on a four-year $14 million contract, which could be worth almost $17 million if all incentives are met, with the St. Louis Rams on March 9.[1] Butler who was good all-around safety for the Giants was particularly noted for his run support, "Butler is far stronger against the run than the pass and will be used as an "in the box" safety" for the Rams.[2] The move reunited him with former Giants defensive coordinator and now former head coach of the Rams, Steve Spagnuolo.

We will probably go with the 3 safety look more than the base 4-3. This is a good move.

In comment 12371883 Gman11 said:

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In comment 12371843 BlueLou said: Quote: Not exactly KP. Or even James Butler! I was going to post the same thing. I can't see getting excited over a guy with 3 career starts.

I'm pretty sure there was no expectation of exciting people with this signing. Just a minor but sensible move

In comment 12371840 Mike in NY said:

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with Landon Collins also on the roster, it is not a good sign that we also need to sign Miles

It's simply a sign that the Giants saw the opportunity to add a veteran safety (probably for the vet minimum) who was previously coached by Spags to a group of young safeties with very little NFL experience.

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In comment 12371848 Curtis in VA said: Quote: Ummmm, he is at least as good as James Butler Jeromy Miles has a ways to go before he matches Butler's career... Quote: New York Giants Butler saw action in 16 games during his rookie season in which he accumulated one start, plus the NFC Wild Card Game, tied for second on the team with 21 special teams tackles (19 solo). He recorded 18 tackles (14 solo), two interceptions, five passes defensed and one fumble recovery in play in dime packages. In 2006, Butler played in 14 regular season games with most of his action coming on special teams but he did see action in dime packages on defense and finished the season with 11 tackles (9 solo), 4 passes defensed and 12 special teams tackles. In Butler's third season (2007), the Giants defeated the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XLII. Butler led the Giants with ten total tackles in the game. In all Butler played in 13 regular season games with 12 starts and started all 4 postseason games at strong safety and finished with 69 tackles (38 solo), 1 interception, 6 passes defensed, and 1 fumble recovery. Butler, played in 15 games with a career-high 14 starts in 2008 and he had 76 tackles (45 solo) and three interceptions and six passes defensed. St. Louis Rams An unrestricted free agent in the 2009 offseason, Butler agreed to terms on a four-year $14 million contract, which could be worth almost $17 million if all incentives are met, with the St. Louis Rams on March 9.[1] Butler who was good all-around safety for the Giants was particularly noted for his run support, "Butler is far stronger against the run than the pass and will be used as an "in the box" safety" for the Rams.[2] The move reunited him with former Giants defensive coordinator and now former head coach of the Rams, Steve Spagnuolo.

yes but going into his first season as a starter what were his numbers? everyone starts with 0 starts, we shouldn't get too upset at the fact he had only 3 starts.

I'm hoping the guys we have do better (and think they will).

Graded him much higher then Ron Parker & Rahim Moore who everybody wanted. Only 5 free agent Safeties above him. He had a +5.4 grade for the season. They were McCourty, Hill, Tashaun Gipson, Dawan Landry & Da'Norris Searcy.

KWALL wanted Ron Parker from KC.

But I agree with Eric, hopefully the younger guys will make hem an experienced backup/mentor.

i would say that LB tony johnson or some lineman who's just a body.

why wait until now to sign him? Why not last month so he can at least participate in OTA's?

Knows Spags system. Good special teams player.

I'd feel more comfortable with him starting alongside Collins. Can stay healthy and should be able to minimize mistakes.

In comment 12371948 bc4life said:

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Knows Spags system. Good special teams player. I'd feel more comfortable with him starting alongside Collins. Can stay healthy and should be able to minimize mistakes.

I know he knows Spags, but how much of "Spags system" do you think the secondary coach ran?

In comment 12371844 Curtis in VA said:

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Very funny. HAHA. Well said.

what happens if/when taylor gets hurt or if someone goes down in camp? there is little to no depth at the position. josh gordy? Bennett Jackson? Thompson and Currie (both of which may be destined more for the P/S than final roster).

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In comment 12371844 Curtis in VA said: Quote: . Very funny. HAHA. Well said.

Seriously, he looks like a very good pickup. Somebody who can challenge for a roster spot, and maybe be a starter in the future. Excellent.

First to call it!

Love that guy. I remember him calling (way in advance) that the Giants would probably sign a little-known LB named Kawika Mitchell.

and a veteran to hedge Taylor's health/youth and Berhe's youth (and potential lack of fit if he can't play SS for some reason with Collins at FS).

Y27 was his prior handle, iirc.

While he wasn't DC, he was secondary coach - so he and Miles should have a sense of what is expected. Perhaps, familiarity is better term. Spags is familiar with Miles strengths/weaknesses. Miles was coached by Spags so he will be familiar with what Spags expects. Spags will undoubtedly incorporate things from the Ravens into what he does for NYG.

Not much out there anyway. And, you have players trying to transition into the position (Jackson) and others who are inexperienced and problems staying healthy.

this doesn't mean Berhe still isn't healthy.

Even if he was, he's certainly not a proven commodity.

In comment 12371834 cokeduplt said:

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Safety doesn't seem like a weakness anymore

We still need a FS. It's Landon Collins and a bunch of question marks

In comment 12371937 speedywheels said:

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why wait until now to sign him? Why not last month so he can at least participate in OTA's?

Did any vets show up to OTA? I'm not sure he'd have been there anyway.

but with a veteran, who DC is familiar with, reduces the anxiety factor a bit.

Look at what J. T. Thomas did for Jax. NOt a starter but came in and performed well "settled things down" - if Miles does that, great. If he does more it's greavy.

Solid Vet signing imo if it comes to fruition

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In comment 12371937 speedywheels said: Quote: why wait until now to sign him? Why not last month so he can at least participate in OTA's? Did any vets show up to OTA? I'm not sure he'd have been there anyway.

Yes, that was a team OTA - Eli and company were all there...

That a lot of BBI was clamoring for this guy after McC, Parker and another top guy were signed during FA?