didn't give them much time to talk and they were still talking about the play prior when the video for the next was running. great idea for a segment though.
they didn't rush through it starting about halfway through. I would have liked to hear even more about the preparation for those calls and other interesting stuff which Gilbride would have given us. Instead they never even paused between the last 3-4 plays.
Still enjoyed it, but it could have been even better.
Man, thank God the Giants pulled that one out despite the offensive line getting their asses kicked on that final drive. Diehl was like a traffic cone.
Same play 3x in a row....just flip sides and give the Tackle some help. These kinds of game-deciding decisions are made with only 45 seconds. It would take me a full day of pondering to make a gutsy call like that.
I didnt know what all of the terms Gilbride was using meant, but still alot of new material there.
I always thought Eli was yelling at Tyree on the Samuel near pick at the sidelines, apparently it was Smith who he was mad at Smith for lack of communication?
Also, who would have ever thought we ran the same play 3 times in a row?
interesting to hear how confident Gilbride was that he knew exactly what the Pats were doing defensively, and exactly what plays to call to beat their coverages
That may be the first time in my career I called the same play 3 times
odd - not sure if Gilbride and O'Hara botched the target's name or Smith was just out of the picture.
No, they got it right. They called a double hook, but Smith ran a hot route. You see Smith break the route and sit short thinking the blitz was coming, but as O'Hara & Gilbride said, the blitz was accounted for in their protection (Jacobs). Smith was supposed to run a hook, like you see Toomer running on the other side. Since Smith broke his route, Eli had to throw it away (poorly and almost got intercepted), but the play should've been open if the routes were ran as called.
odd - not sure if Gilbride and O'Hara botched the target's name or Smith was just out of the picture.
No, they got it right. They called a double hook, but Smith ran a hot route. You see Smith break the route and sit short thinking the blitz was coming, but as O'Hara & Gilbride said, the blitz was accounted for in their protection (Jacobs). Smith was supposed to run a hook, like you see Toomer running on the other side. Since Smith broke his route, Eli had to throw it away (poorly and almost got intercepted), but the play should've been open if the routes were ran as called.
Plex talks about it in the documentary by SPike Lee. Steve smith blew it. Apparently steve smith often screwed up his routs. Link - ( New Window )
the sideline right before the Giants offense took the field for the Giants final drive. There's that memorable clip of Michael Strahan on the sideline telling the offensive line to believe that they were going to win. In the context that the Giants defense had just given up what could have been a long, game winning drive, I thought Strahan should have used some of that energy on that series. Without context, the clip makes Strahan look like a master motivator, but I saw the same guy who didn't step-up in the '03 game against the 49ers shooting his mouth off, instead of making a play.
If you watch the clip as Strahan is talking, O'hara seems to ignore Strahan and has a look on his face that looked like disgust... It would be interesting to know what O'hara was thinking at that moment.
that this morning at 6:30. Made me almost late for work, but I learned that the Pats were trying to call a TO when they saw they were screwed on final play.
RE: RE: RE: RE: **apparently he was mad at Smith for miscommunication?**
odd - not sure if Gilbride and O'Hara botched the target's name or Smith was just out of the picture.
No, they got it right. They called a double hook, but Smith ran a hot route. You see Smith break the route and sit short thinking the blitz was coming, but as O'Hara & Gilbride said, the blitz was accounted for in their protection (Jacobs). Smith was supposed to run a hook, like you see Toomer running on the other side. Since Smith broke his route, Eli had to throw it away (poorly and almost got intercepted), but the play should've been open if the routes were ran as called.
Plex talks about it in the documentary by SPike Lee. Steve smith blew it. Apparently steve smith often screwed up his routs. Link - ( New Window )
Interesting to hear that, considering that as fans, we always considered Steve Smith to be an excellent route runner.
Also strange to think that for at least 1.5 years, "Steve Smith" made people think of OUR Steve Smith, not that dick in CAR/BAL (heard he's okay off the field, but what a fucking douchebag on the field).
RE: RE: RE: RE: **apparently he was mad at Smith for miscommunication?**
odd - not sure if Gilbride and O'Hara botched the target's name or Smith was just out of the picture.
No, they got it right. They called a double hook, but Smith ran a hot route. You see Smith break the route and sit short thinking the blitz was coming, but as O'Hara & Gilbride said, the blitz was accounted for in their protection (Jacobs). Smith was supposed to run a hook, like you see Toomer running on the other side. Since Smith broke his route, Eli had to throw it away (poorly and almost got intercepted), but the play should've been open if the routes were ran as called.
Plex talks about it in the documentary by SPike Lee. Steve smith blew it. Apparently steve smith often screwed up his routs. Link - ( New Window )
Lol, yeah I laughed when Plax said that about Smith.
You can see it (now getting the context from Gilbride) and what it was supposed to be. If the Pats were playing 3 or 4 high, either or both of the slot guys (smith or toomer) would be open on a hook route. It looks like they played 3 high, (you see the DB come up on Toomer), which means Eli was gonna go to Smith. That's why you see him pump; he was expecting Smith to be breaking back for the hook, but he wasn't there since he broke the route. Eli had to throw it away, but just did a terrible job at it haha.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: **apparently he was mad at Smith for miscommunication?**
odd - not sure if Gilbride and O'Hara botched the target's name or Smith was just out of the picture.
No, they got it right. They called a double hook, but Smith ran a hot route. You see Smith break the route and sit short thinking the blitz was coming, but as O'Hara & Gilbride said, the blitz was accounted for in their protection (Jacobs). Smith was supposed to run a hook, like you see Toomer running on the other side. Since Smith broke his route, Eli had to throw it away (poorly and almost got intercepted), but the play should've been open if the routes were ran as called.
Plex talks about it in the documentary by SPike Lee. Steve smith blew it. Apparently steve smith often screwed up his routs. Link - ( New Window )
Interesting to hear that, considering that as fans, we always considered Steve Smith to be an excellent route runner.
Also strange to think that for at least 1.5 years, "Steve Smith" made people think of OUR Steve Smith, not that dick in CAR/BAL (heard he's okay off the field, but what a fucking douchebag on the field).
haha yeah I've always complimented him on his route running. I think he improved a lot on that aspect his second year, and he did run great routes. Whether it was the right route, is another story, but he did run them well.
Thanks for posting. Great informal piece with a lot of information. Loved O'Hara: "I'm the only one blocking. Snee's doing nothing. Seubert's doing nothing."
Thomas could have had a really strong MVP case with how he sonned the Giant tackles, in particular.
Which kind of makes people holding up Strahan's sideline speech (even though it was a great clip to see as a fan) as the bastion of leadership and inspiration the way they do pretty funny, since he was directing it to mostly that unit. Their play certainly didn't show that much inspiration from it.
RE: The OL in general was pretty suspect on that final drive.
Thomas could have had a really strong MVP case with how he sonned the Giant tackles, in particular.
Which kind of makes people holding up Strahan's sideline speech (even though it was a great clip to see as a fan) as the bastion of leadership and inspiration the way they do pretty funny, since he was directing it to mostly that unit. Their play certainly didn't show that much inspiration from it.
It's funny now, when O'Hara says "I was the only blocking on that play."
RE: The OL in general was pretty suspect on that final drive.
Thomas could have had a really strong MVP case with how he sonned the Giant tackles, in particular.
Which kind of makes people holding up Strahan's sideline speech (even though it was a great clip to see as a fan) as the bastion of leadership and inspiration the way they do pretty funny, since he was directing it to mostly that unit. Their play certainly didn't show that much inspiration from it.
Haha it's true. Eli was sacked once, nearly twice if not for The Double Miracle, didn't get ANY push on the 4th and 1 (God we were lucky), and the only reason we survived the blitz at the end, and earlier, was Jacobs alertly picking up the extra man.
do a longer version starting from the beginning of the drive. And yeah the OL was bad on that last drive. All the more credit to Eli and the receivers because of that.
Never knew the Pats were trying to call TO.
Still enjoyed it, but it could have been even better.
Man, thank God the Giants pulled that one out despite the offensive line getting their asses kicked on that final drive. Diehl was like a traffic cone.
I still get chills watching those last few plays.
I always thought Eli was yelling at Tyree on the Samuel near pick at the sidelines, apparently it was Smith who he was mad at Smith for lack of communication?
Also, who would have ever thought we ran the same play 3 times in a row?
odd - not sure if Gilbride and O'Hara botched the target's name or Smith was just out of the picture.
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odd - not sure if Gilbride and O'Hara botched the target's name or Smith was just out of the picture.
No, they got it right. They called a double hook, but Smith ran a hot route. You see Smith break the route and sit short thinking the blitz was coming, but as O'Hara & Gilbride said, the blitz was accounted for in their protection (Jacobs). Smith was supposed to run a hook, like you see Toomer running on the other side. Since Smith broke his route, Eli had to throw it away (poorly and almost got intercepted), but the play should've been open if the routes were ran as called.
Without that- game over. Eli to Tyree never happens.
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odd - not sure if Gilbride and O'Hara botched the target's name or Smith was just out of the picture.
No, they got it right. They called a double hook, but Smith ran a hot route. You see Smith break the route and sit short thinking the blitz was coming, but as O'Hara & Gilbride said, the blitz was accounted for in their protection (Jacobs). Smith was supposed to run a hook, like you see Toomer running on the other side. Since Smith broke his route, Eli had to throw it away (poorly and almost got intercepted), but the play should've been open if the routes were ran as called.
Plex talks about it in the documentary by SPike Lee. Steve smith blew it. Apparently steve smith often screwed up his routs.
Link - ( New Window )
If you watch the clip as Strahan is talking, O'hara seems to ignore Strahan and has a look on his face that looked like disgust... It would be interesting to know what O'hara was thinking at that moment.
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odd - not sure if Gilbride and O'Hara botched the target's name or Smith was just out of the picture.
No, they got it right. They called a double hook, but Smith ran a hot route. You see Smith break the route and sit short thinking the blitz was coming, but as O'Hara & Gilbride said, the blitz was accounted for in their protection (Jacobs). Smith was supposed to run a hook, like you see Toomer running on the other side. Since Smith broke his route, Eli had to throw it away (poorly and almost got intercepted), but the play should've been open if the routes were ran as called.
Plex talks about it in the documentary by SPike Lee. Steve smith blew it. Apparently steve smith often screwed up his routs. Link - ( New Window )
Interesting to hear that, considering that as fans, we always considered Steve Smith to be an excellent route runner.
Also strange to think that for at least 1.5 years, "Steve Smith" made people think of OUR Steve Smith, not that dick in CAR/BAL (heard he's okay off the field, but what a fucking douchebag on the field).
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odd - not sure if Gilbride and O'Hara botched the target's name or Smith was just out of the picture.
No, they got it right. They called a double hook, but Smith ran a hot route. You see Smith break the route and sit short thinking the blitz was coming, but as O'Hara & Gilbride said, the blitz was accounted for in their protection (Jacobs). Smith was supposed to run a hook, like you see Toomer running on the other side. Since Smith broke his route, Eli had to throw it away (poorly and almost got intercepted), but the play should've been open if the routes were ran as called.
Plex talks about it in the documentary by SPike Lee. Steve smith blew it. Apparently steve smith often screwed up his routs. Link - ( New Window )
Lol, yeah I laughed when Plax said that about Smith.
You can see it (now getting the context from Gilbride) and what it was supposed to be. If the Pats were playing 3 or 4 high, either or both of the slot guys (smith or toomer) would be open on a hook route. It looks like they played 3 high, (you see the DB come up on Toomer), which means Eli was gonna go to Smith. That's why you see him pump; he was expecting Smith to be breaking back for the hook, but he wasn't there since he broke the route. Eli had to throw it away, but just did a terrible job at it haha.
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odd - not sure if Gilbride and O'Hara botched the target's name or Smith was just out of the picture.
No, they got it right. They called a double hook, but Smith ran a hot route. You see Smith break the route and sit short thinking the blitz was coming, but as O'Hara & Gilbride said, the blitz was accounted for in their protection (Jacobs). Smith was supposed to run a hook, like you see Toomer running on the other side. Since Smith broke his route, Eli had to throw it away (poorly and almost got intercepted), but the play should've been open if the routes were ran as called.
Plex talks about it in the documentary by SPike Lee. Steve smith blew it. Apparently steve smith often screwed up his routs. Link - ( New Window )
Interesting to hear that, considering that as fans, we always considered Steve Smith to be an excellent route runner.
Also strange to think that for at least 1.5 years, "Steve Smith" made people think of OUR Steve Smith, not that dick in CAR/BAL (heard he's okay off the field, but what a fucking douchebag on the field).
haha yeah I've always complimented him on his route running. I think he improved a lot on that aspect his second year, and he did run great routes. Whether it was the right route, is another story, but he did run them well.
Thanks for posting. Great informal piece with a lot of information. Loved O'Hara: "I'm the only one blocking. Snee's doing nothing. Seubert's doing nothing."
Which kind of makes people holding up Strahan's sideline speech (even though it was a great clip to see as a fan) as the bastion of leadership and inspiration the way they do pretty funny, since he was directing it to mostly that unit. Their play certainly didn't show that much inspiration from it.
Which kind of makes people holding up Strahan's sideline speech (even though it was a great clip to see as a fan) as the bastion of leadership and inspiration the way they do pretty funny, since he was directing it to mostly that unit. Their play certainly didn't show that much inspiration from it.
It's funny now, when O'Hara says "I was the only blocking on that play."
Which kind of makes people holding up Strahan's sideline speech (even though it was a great clip to see as a fan) as the bastion of leadership and inspiration the way they do pretty funny, since he was directing it to mostly that unit. Their play certainly didn't show that much inspiration from it.
Haha it's true. Eli was sacked once, nearly twice if not for The Double Miracle, didn't get ANY push on the 4th and 1 (God we were lucky), and the only reason we survived the blitz at the end, and earlier, was Jacobs alertly picking up the extra man.
Yep and the reason the ball was thrown high was that Vrabel came in free right before Eli threw it..
Otherwise he can step into it and Tyree makes a less remarkable catch..