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NFT: Hulk Hogan removed from WWE because of racist rant

GMAN4LIFE : 7/24/2015 8:23 am
yikes

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Apparently WWE is cutting all ties with Hulk Hogan. The rumor is there is some audio that leaked of him going on a racial tirade of some sorts but that has not been confirmed. WWE is trying to get out ahead of it to manage some of the fallout.

If you go to WWE.com, all mentions of Hogan are gone. His merch is also removed from the shop and he isn't even listed as a Tough Enough judge anymore. Also, everything related to Curtis Axel has reverted from "Axelmania" back to just "Curtis Axel"

Hell, he isn't listed as an inductee on the HOF page anymore, so whatever caused this must must be pretty heavy..

Here's a story about the removal, but it doesn't go into the rumored reasons why WWE is doing it. I saw that mentioned on another forum I frequent.

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Huh. Well they sure scrubbed him from their website  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/24/2015 8:26 am : link
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The "racist rant" that is out there  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/24/2015 8:31 am : link
isn't that big of a deal - it's from a satellite radio interview three years ago.

BUT the rumor is that there's a really really bad rant leaked from the Gawker deposition that is basically Good Night Irene (TM Gorilla Monson RIP). There's no confirmed report of that yet.
Must be a pretty bad rant if they did all of that  
illmatic : 7/24/2015 8:35 am : link
I'm sure we'll hear it soon.
Prevailing theory is that this is  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/24/2015 8:37 am : link
Gawker's revenge - if Hogan wins the lawsuit, he could possibly put them out of business. So they'll bury him at the same time.
what was the gawker thing?  
GMAN4LIFE : 7/24/2015 8:38 am : link
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RE: what was the gawker thing?  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/24/2015 8:41 am : link
In comment 12383257 GMAN4LIFE said:
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Gawker is the site that released the Hogan sex tape allegedly without his consent - hence he sued them for $100M and is pushing them to the brink of bankruptcy if he wins. The holding company owns Deadspin, Jezebel, Gawker, and a bunch of other websites that have been at time unscrupulous in the past. Apparently the racist rant is included in the deposition.
I heard the video this morning  
Old Dirty Beckham : 7/24/2015 9:22 am : link
If this is what they're cutting ties with him for it's absolutely ridiculous. It's not a racist rant at all. He uses the n word but in a context that is neither racist or offensive. In fact the host of the show was black and they were laughing.

WWE, who has had a slave character (virgil) and every black tag team has been some sort of racial stereotype has some balls cutting ties with the man that made their company.
RE: I heard the video this morning  
illmatic : 7/24/2015 9:24 am : link
In comment 12383323 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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If this is what they're cutting ties with him for it's absolutely ridiculous. It's not a racist rant at all. He uses the n word but in a context that is neither racist or offensive. In fact the host of the show was black and they were laughing.

WWE, who has had a slave character (virgil) and every black tag team has been some sort of racial stereotype has some balls cutting ties with the man that made their company.


Supposedly that's the old one and this isn't related to that.
Hulkamania  
Ben in Tampa : 7/24/2015 9:26 am : link
1985-2015
Apparently the audio tape will be available  
BigBlueinChicago : 7/24/2015 9:28 am : link
sometime today by the company that acquired it and we all can hear for ourselves.

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MediaTakeOut.com got a sneak preview of on an AUDIO TAPE - which allegedly shows HULK HOGAN using the “N Word”. And he’s not using the “N*GGA” word either. After listening to the tape, which is DISGUSTING, there can be NO DOUBT that Hulk Hogan is a racist . . . at the level of the KU KLUX KLAN. The tape was discovered during the GAWKER LAWSUIT - it was from a legal deposition and was sold to the National Enquirer. We’re told that the audio tape will be out early this morning. When it comes out, we’ll post it here.

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And  
BIG FRED 1973 : 7/24/2015 9:32 am : link
Michael Hayes still has a job with WWE .Go figure
RE: Apparently the audio tape will be available  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/24/2015 9:33 am : link
In comment 12383335 BigBlueinChicago said:
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sometime today by the company that acquired it and we all can hear for ourselves.



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MediaTakeOut.com got a sneak preview of on an AUDIO TAPE - which allegedly shows HULK HOGAN using the “N Word”. And he’s not using the “N*GGA” word either. After listening to the tape, which is DISGUSTING, there can be NO DOUBT that Hulk Hogan is a racist . . . at the level of the KU KLUX KLAN. The tape was discovered during the GAWKER LAWSUIT - it was from a legal deposition and was sold to the National Enquirer. We’re told that the audio tape will be out early this morning. When it comes out, we’ll post it here.

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Gawker reporting on a tape it leaked as if they are not prominently involved in the story is hilarious.
watcha gonna do brother with the hulkster and the KKK run  
GMAN4LIFE : 7/24/2015 9:33 am : link
wild on you


i dont think he is a racist but i think he is a moron
RE: And  
GMAN4LIFE : 7/24/2015 9:33 am : link
In comment 12383339 BIG FRED 1973 said:
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Michael Hayes still has a job with WWE .Go figure


what did he do?
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RicFlair : 7/24/2015 9:40 am : link
RE: RE: And  
BigBlueinChicago : 7/24/2015 9:40 am : link
In comment 12383344 GMAN4LIFE said:
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In comment 12383339 BIG FRED 1973 said:


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Michael Hayes still has a job with WWE .Go figure



what did he do?


Freebirds! Lol.

Gawker has always been  
Matt in SGS : 7/24/2015 9:41 am : link
a sleaze operation. Years ago, when I worked in the media/publishing world, Gawker was just getting started and they began by essentially airing dirty laundry among the NY publishing companies. As time went on, they decided to be TMZ Junior and created click bait stories. The Hogan stuff has put them at a cross roads and they might have screwed themselves over. It wouldn't be shocking if they worked with their other friends to try to take him down along with their own fall.

Keep in mind, this is a company that just last week posted a gay escort/extortion rumor about the CFO of Conde Nast (who also is Tim Geithner's brother). The leadership of the company pulled the story after it posted because it got too much heat for what basically offered no public good but was a hit piece on a competitor. Their editorial chief quit as a result for it being pulled because of the further potential financial/legal damage and whined about an editorial firewall. Strange hill to die on. But shows what a screwed up company Gawker is and has become. If they and Hogan both go away, BFD.
Gawker's revenge  
Enzo : 7/24/2015 9:44 am : link
is the first that that popped into my mind. This is getting ugly.
He called  
BIG FRED 1973 : 7/24/2015 9:45 am : link
Mark henry the N word at one of the smackdown tapings and got suspended for 60 days ,he also pressured Rosa mendas to drink after she just got out of rehab ..
RE: Gawker has always been  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/24/2015 9:51 am : link
In comment 12383367 Matt in SGS said:
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a sleaze operation. Years ago, when I worked in the media/publishing world, Gawker was just getting started and they began by essentially airing dirty laundry among the NY publishing companies. As time went on, they decided to be TMZ Junior and created click bait stories. The Hogan stuff has put them at a cross roads and they might have screwed themselves over. It wouldn't be shocking if they worked with their other friends to try to take him down along with their own fall.

Keep in mind, this is a company that just last week posted a gay escort/extortion rumor about the CFO of Conde Nast (who also is Tim Geithner's brother). The leadership of the company pulled the story after it posted because it got too much heat for what basically offered no public good but was a hit piece on a competitor. Their editorial chief quit as a result for it being pulled because of the further potential financial/legal damage and whined about an editorial firewall. Strange hill to die on. But shows what a screwed up company Gawker is and has become. If they and Hogan both go away, BFD.


Matt, I posted similar commentary elsewhere - this is all about the downfall of Gawker/Nick Denton. This is the same company that posted the Brett Favre picks after they were requested not to by the lawyers of Jenn Sterger and Favre. Denton basically acknowledges Hogan can put them out of business, and yet they still ran the CFO piece (no news value whatsoever), which is now internally dividing the site. Media company that is rotten to the core.
Part of me (perhaps the younger, more innocent part),  
Britt in VA : 7/24/2015 9:52 am : link
no matter how wrong it is, wishes we could go back to the time when every single nuance of a person's private life wasn't exposed to the general public. Let people remember Bill Cosby as Cliff Huxtable and the comedian, let us remember the Hulkster as the Hulkster, let us remember Michael Jackson as Michael Jackson.... Because as entertainers, I don't care about any of those guys as the man, I care about their characters and the joy they brought me. Many artists throughout time have been less than model citizens... They are human, and have faults. We all do. Some worse than others, but we all have them.

It just sucks seeing your childhood innocennce destroyed in this manner. We have become a society hell bent on tearing everybody around us, down.

I'm really not a fan of the media world we live in, now. At all. It's pretty much the reason I've stopped watching television altogether, outside of sports.

And before anybody gets stupid, I don't condone or support the actions of any of the men I listed in this post, I just would prefer not to know.
Well said britt  
BIG FRED 1973 : 7/24/2015 9:58 am : link
and i totally agree ,Funny thing is i was in clearwater last week and was gonna take a ride to Hogans beach shop but i was there not too long ago and bought a bunch of stuff and figured i had all the shirts i wanted anyway and didn't go lol
Or, you know, don't put celebrities on pedestals  
Wuphat : 7/24/2015 10:05 am : link
Maybe don't let them get away with being assholes just because they are "stars"

RE: RE: Gawker has always been  
Matt in SGS : 7/24/2015 10:07 am : link
In comment 12383400 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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In comment 12383367 Matt in SGS said:


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a sleaze operation. Years ago, when I worked in the media/publishing world, Gawker was just getting started and they began by essentially airing dirty laundry among the NY publishing companies. As time went on, they decided to be TMZ Junior and created click bait stories. The Hogan stuff has put them at a cross roads and they might have screwed themselves over. It wouldn't be shocking if they worked with their other friends to try to take him down along with their own fall.

Keep in mind, this is a company that just last week posted a gay escort/extortion rumor about the CFO of Conde Nast (who also is Tim Geithner's brother). The leadership of the company pulled the story after it posted because it got too much heat for what basically offered no public good but was a hit piece on a competitor. Their editorial chief quit as a result for it being pulled because of the further potential financial/legal damage and whined about an editorial firewall. Strange hill to die on. But shows what a screwed up company Gawker is and has become. If they and Hogan both go away, BFD.



Matt, I posted similar commentary elsewhere - this is all about the downfall of Gawker/Nick Denton. This is the same company that posted the Brett Favre picks after they were requested not to by the lawyers of Jenn Sterger and Favre. Denton basically acknowledges Hogan can put them out of business, and yet they still ran the CFO piece (no news value whatsoever), which is now internally dividing the site. Media company that is rotten to the core.


Bobby,

Full disclosure, I worked at Conde Nast for over 8 years and still keep in touch with a lot of the higher ups. The NY media circle is surprisingly small, everyone knows everybody. Conde Nast works closely with Hearst, Time, Rodale, etc. Years ago, Gawker was a means to an end for them and the company would leak things to them for whatever political or competitive purpose. I was told that the CFO story went as high as the Newhouse family who contacted Denton and told him ditch that story or else whatever Hogan didn't get from them, Geithner and Conde's lawyers would. So Denton panicked, and pulled the story. The Gawker editors acted like spoiled kids and fought against it for journalistic integrity (as if that story really was something to defend). Good luck for any of those guys involved in the story getting another job in NY. They will need to find another line of work, they are done.
Here is some of the stuff starting to come out now  
BigBlueinChicago : 7/24/2015 10:08 am : link
from both Radar Online and the National Enquirer, both with the story.

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RE: Part of me (perhaps the younger, more innocent part),  
Mr. Bungle : 7/24/2015 10:09 am : link
In comment 12383405 Britt in VA said:
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I don't condone or support the actions of any of the men I listed in this post, I just would prefer not to know.


Keeping these things hush-hush has perpetuated the wretched behavior of these entitled celebrities for decades.

Out 'em. Fuck 'em.
It's not about getting away with it, it's about not caring....  
Britt in VA : 7/24/2015 10:11 am : link
Whatever your aquaintance/relationship is with me, that's what I need to know.

And it's not limited to celebrities, it's everywhere. Look no further than facebook. I do not need to know, or care about the following... unprompted:

-Your political views
-Your race views
-Your sexual orientation views
-Your food preferences
-etc....

There are so many people that either willingly share information, or are have it outed by somebody else, that is not vital to me or my relationship with that person.

If I suddenly found out that my favorite restuarant chef was let's say... a racist, would I know longer frequent that establishment? Probably, but who loses? We both do, through no fault of mine.

The whole thing just sucks.
Matt  
Greg from LI : 7/24/2015 10:14 am : link
Hope that's true. God knows they don't deserve to ever work in publishing again.
So it looks like it's from the sex tape  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/24/2015 10:18 am : link
which of course was a private conversation illegally taped and under seal?
But granted...  
Britt in VA : 7/24/2015 10:20 am : link
I can see there's a huge difference between a Bill Cosby/Michael Jackson situation, and a Hulk Hogan/Paula Dean sort of situation.

Bill Cosby and Michael Jackson have apparently committed heinous crimes, where as Hogan, and Dean, just got caught sharing private thoughts/opinions out loud. So perhaps including Cosby and Jackson clouded my opinion a bit. Nobody should get away with that.

Just wanted to clarify that.
RE: Matt  
Matt in SGS : 7/24/2015 10:23 am : link
In comment 12383463 Greg from LI said:
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Hope that's true. God knows they don't deserve to ever work in publishing again.


Greg,

They are done. Alot of the big wigs across publishing are actually pissed that Gawker didn't fire them first and gave them the chance to resign. What they did was a hit piece probably to settle a score with Geithner going back to his days at Time Inc, or try to take a shot as his brother, or both. And they were a willing party to blackmail/extortion. Like I said, all the big publishing companies all know each other and work closely together. Yes, they compete, but they also have a great deal of collaboration behind the scenes.
Damn  
PaulBlakeTSU : 7/24/2015 10:32 am : link
I guess I should have rooted for Zeus. R.I.P. RIP
...  
Route 9 in LEH : 7/24/2015 10:33 am : link
I think its just the world that we live in with where social commentary and networks run society into a spot where if they don't suspend this person or that person, they'll just be getting extreme backlash from this cultural group or that race and rightfully so. I just don't think the companies, league's and organizations have the truest sense and belief in their punishments, just they'd be looking substandard if they didn't undertake any disciplinary action.
....  
Route 9 in LEH : 7/24/2015 10:38 am : link
Yes
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Hulkamania will apparently not live forever  
Jints in Carolina : 7/24/2015 10:49 am : link
Bobby Heenan was right.
who would have thought  
Matt in SGS : 7/24/2015 10:56 am : link
that 35 years later, The Iron Sheik would end up being more beloved than Hulk Hogan.
Matt  
Semipro Lineman : 7/24/2015 11:06 am : link
your side story brings a bit of context that was missing for me. I just couldn't understand why they did it beside just being petty considering that a blind guy could have seen the backlash that was going to come back at them for it
Well there you go.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/24/2015 11:18 am : link
"WWE terminated its contract with Terry Bollea (aka Hulk Hogan). WWE is committed to embracing and celebrating individuals from all backgrounds as demonstrated by the diversity of our employees, performers and fans worldwide."
RE: Here is some of the stuff starting to come out now  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/24/2015 11:26 am : link
In comment 12383443 BigBlueinChicago said:
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from both Radar Online and the National Enquirer, both with the story. Link - ( New Window )


It's National Enquirer, so grain of salt, but if those quotes are real, that's incredibly vile.
Well they're a public company  
moespree : 7/24/2015 11:28 am : link
On the stock market. The days of being a small private business are long over, so I'm not surprised at actions like this.

As for Michael Hayes, it's a joke he is allowed in any company. He is a bad guy. He's done a lot of bad things to and with people over the years. Seems like he might have got what's coming to him though. A trusted guy on a forum with backstage info said a few years ago CM Punk beat the living shit out of him after Hayes physically shoved and put his hands around AJ Lee's neck. The guy said Hayes was an agent during a divas segment and didn't like that AJ Lee went off script with something he got so agitated with her he shoved her into a corner, screamed in her face and threatened to choke her. So CM Punk almost killed him was what the guy said.

Interesting timing since CM Punk was supposed to be with Lita at that time and not AJ Lee yet, but I guess that's for another bizarre backstage in wrestling story...

Hayes is a piece of shit  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/24/2015 11:32 am : link
He's also guilty of enabling a Diva who was recovering from an alcohol problem.
I know Hayes  
BIG FRED 1973 : 7/24/2015 11:35 am : link
is a piece of crap but the blinding of JYD is still one of my favorite wrestling angles of all time ..
RE: RE: Here is some of the stuff starting to come out now  
BigBlueinChicago : 7/24/2015 11:43 am : link
In comment 12383698 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 12383443 BigBlueinChicago said:


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from both Radar Online and the National Enquirer, both with the story. Link - ( New Window )



It's National Enquirer, so grain of salt, but if those quotes are real, that's incredibly vile.


Hulk is now apologizing.

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"Eight years ago I used offensive language during a conversation. It was unacceptable for me to have used that offensive language; there is no excuse for it; and I apologize for having done it," Hogan said in a statement exclusively to PEOPLE.

"This is not who I am. I believe very strongly that every person in the world is important and should not be treated differently based on race, gender, orientation, religious beliefs or otherwise,"

"I am disappointed with myself that I used language that is offensive and inconsistent with my own beliefs."

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Hogan's a POS  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/24/2015 11:45 am : link
for alot of other reasons, too, that have more to do with backstage wrestling politics. Biggest POS in the wrestling world, to be honest. This doesn't surprise me in the least.
RE: Well they're a public company  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/24/2015 11:47 am : link
In comment 12383706 moespree said:
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On the stock market. The days of being a small private business are long over, so I'm not surprised at actions like this.

As for Michael Hayes, it's a joke he is allowed in any company. He is a bad guy. He's done a lot of bad things to and with people over the years. Seems like he might have got what's coming to him though. A trusted guy on a forum with backstage info said a few years ago CM Punk beat the living shit out of him after Hayes physically shoved and put his hands around AJ Lee's neck. The guy said Hayes was an agent during a divas segment and didn't like that AJ Lee went off script with something he got so agitated with her he shoved her into a corner, screamed in her face and threatened to choke her. So CM Punk almost killed him was what the guy said.

Interesting timing since CM Punk was supposed to be with Lita at that time and not AJ Lee yet, but I guess that's for another bizarre backstage in wrestling story...


Lest we forget this is the same company that employs Jerry Lawler, who has been accused of a penchant for underage girls....
Hey  
BIG FRED 1973 : 7/24/2015 12:00 pm : link
leave the king alone lol
RE: Hogan's a POS  
Enzo : 7/24/2015 12:11 pm : link
In comment 12383750 Dave in Hoboken said:
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for alot of other reasons, too, that have more to do with backstage wrestling politics. Biggest POS in the wrestling world, to be honest. This doesn't surprise me in the least.

comparing "backstage wrestling politics" to this is any way is dumb. Saying you're not surprised he made these remarks because he engaged in "backstage wrestling politics" is dumb as well.
Bump for Matt from SGS  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 7/25/2015 11:09 am : link
Matt, did you see that Gawker is all of a sudden going to "rebrand itself" on Monday? Nick Denton really is something - that's a guy who obviously has never gotten his ass-kicked.
RE: RE: Hogan's a POS  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/25/2015 11:47 am : link
In comment 12383830 Enzo said:
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In comment 12383750 Dave in Hoboken said:


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for alot of other reasons, too, that have more to do with backstage wrestling politics. Biggest POS in the wrestling world, to be honest. This doesn't surprise me in the least.


comparing "backstage wrestling politics" to this is any way is dumb. Saying you're not surprised he made these remarks because he engaged in "backstage wrestling politics" is dumb as well.


Not really. They both show that he is a POS. Was just showing that he has a history of being a POS. Obviously, they are different ways of being a POS, but still a POS nonetheless. Thanks for your irrelevant opinion, though.
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Route 9 in LEH : 7/25/2015 12:32 pm : link
Bobby's ear pad. And the same company that has past stories about wrestles simulating sex with dead bodies, guys portraying the mentally handicapped and one of the owners or whatever comparing 9/11 to MacMahon's steroid scandal for the 90s.

I don't support racism in anyway shape or form, but it's just so funny to see them drop the morality hammer so quickly, but give the fact that they're scripted storylines justifies the attempt?
Take the fish  
Anakim : 7/27/2015 9:30 pm : link
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Rusev is fantastic
If Hulk Hogan can get  
JerryNYG : 7/27/2015 10:27 pm : link
Gawker and the subsidiary sites shut down I will forgive him.

Hogan said some shitty things, but I doubt that most people in the world have not been guilty of saying some ignorant nonsense from time to time in their lives. Luckily for most of us those lapses in judgment were not recorded.

I definitely understand a publicly traded company cutting ties with an employee who alienates large segments of the public with stupid and offensive behavior or speech. On the other hand, I can't personally get too worked up about it.

TL;DR version: Fuck Gawker, Fuck Jezebel, Fuck Deadspin.... fuck all the rest of those sleazy blogs full of terrible people writing, editing and commenting on the stories.
Holy fuck  
dep026 : 7/27/2015 11:06 pm : link
Cena's nose is broke bad. My god its almost under his right eye.
RE: Holy fuck  
PhiPsi125 : 7/27/2015 11:10 pm : link
In comment 12388310 dep026 said:
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Cena's nose is broke bad. My god its almost under his right eye.


Yeah, he took Rollins knee hard to the face. His nose is on the side of his face. Tough sob to keep wrestling.
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