NFT: Cowherd - baseball must be simple because Dominicans play it

But a mental game? Absolutely. Overcoming failure and slumps, maintaining confidence after a bad error (avoid Knoblauch or Mackey Sasser syndrome), and weathering the grind.

That type of mental toughness doesn't have much to do with where you went to school.

Also, when it comes to book smarts -- in any sport... i'm reminded of the Alvin Mack scene in "The Program" when the guy, an otherwise book idiot, could name every read the coaches threw at him. Even absent higher education in DR, these guys are coached up plenty on the specifics/specialization of their industry.

So Cowherd completely misses the mark here. With that said i often wonder with him and ESPN in general what's real and what's just a comment to incite opinion and ratings

there's no parallel in baseball for a player to have to memorize anything like an NFL playbook which is quite a daunting task. He didn't mention that a lot of NFL players don't make it because they couldn't get the mental part, even though they have the physical attributes. Never heard that about a baseball player.

In comment 12383540 Greg from LI said:

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Right?

People from "rough backgrounds" here still have access to better quality education systems compared to countries like the Dominican Republic.

Hell, look at LT. He's hardly what you'd call a sharp knife, and his practice habits were famously lax, but he knew his business. The LT documentary on Showtime told the story of LT sleeping through a defense meeting, and Belichick was fed up.

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Belichick, a Giants assistant for ten seasons, recalls Taylor sleeping through a morning meeting after being out all night partying. A furious Belichick yelled at Taylor to pay attention, at which point Taylor walked up to the chalkboard, diagrammed the play Belichick was about to describe and sat back down and went back to sleep.

I don't know enough about football to make a valid case for how smart you have to be to play the sport. I've only been following it since 2011 and never played the sport.

I'm sure if Morris Clairborne can score like a 4 on the Wonderlic and still be a top draft pick, I don't think the competence bar is set very high.

I was intending to make a point on how Cowherd came across.

Do I think he intended to make Dominicans seem like they are less competent than people from other nationalities? No.

Could he have prefaced that comment with more politically correct language and changed his word choice a little bit better? Certainly.

In comment 12383511 BeerFridge said:

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In comment 12383476 Jints in Carolina said: Quote: yes, it's ignorant. The idea that occasionally a famous middle aged white guy says something racist and makes news is somehow new to you? And I'm "ignorant" for noticing it? Sorry your panties are in a bunch.

Maybe you didn't notice racism comes in all flavors. IE: An older black guy spews it quite a bit.

In comment 12383606 OC2.0 said:

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In comment 12383511 BeerFridge said: Quote: In comment 12383476 Jints in Carolina said: Quote: yes, it's ignorant. The idea that occasionally a famous middle aged white guy says something racist and makes news is somehow new to you? And I'm "ignorant" for noticing it? Sorry your panties are in a bunch. Maybe you didn't notice racism comes in all flavors. IE: An older black guy spews it quite a bit.

Did I say that only middle aged white guys are racist? Did I say all of them are? Sorry I offended you guys by pointing out a pretty common phenomenon.
Hey look! Hulk Hogan is a middle aged white guy (maybe he's an old one...) - ( New Window )

There is racism in every country in the world, it is part of human nature, an unfortunate part. We should be proud of our country that we have progressed to the point where even stuff this stupid brings cries of racism. As dumb as it may seem to some, it is a sign of progress, and although unfair to some, its probably a good thing overall.

In comment 12383633 BeerFridge said:

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In comment 12383606 OC2.0 said: Quote: In comment 12383511 BeerFridge said: Quote: In comment 12383476 Jints in Carolina said: Quote: yes, it's ignorant. The idea that occasionally a famous middle aged white guy says something racist and makes news is somehow new to you? And I'm "ignorant" for noticing it? Sorry your panties are in a bunch. Maybe you didn't notice racism comes in all flavors. IE: An older black guy spews it quite a bit. Did I say that only middle aged white guys are racist? Did I say all of them are? Sorry I offended you guys by pointing out a pretty common phenomenon. Hey look! Hulk Hogan is a middle aged white guy (maybe he's an old one...) - ( New Window )

The only offense is you think you need to point something like that out.

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In comment 12383689 idiotsavant said:

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Of course

b/c Murphy, Campbell & company are dumber.

He just ripped on the intelligence of an entire country. I mean his point about LaRussa and Belichick makes sense, he's right about the MLB being dumber than the NFL but his reasoning is simply racist.

This isn't the first time Cowherd has said something borderline racist before. When you listen to him talk about certain guys, it's pretty easy to see through his BS to understand where he's coming from.

To be a professional athlete.

QBs have to be pretty cerebral. The other positions are not so much

Mainly because he does a dance during pre-game introductions. That's a scorching-hot take right there.

who cares?

In comment 12383928 Greg from LI said:

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Mainly because he does a dance during pre-game introductions. That's a scorching-hot take right there.

He did one dance during his debut game during player introductions, and Cowherd decided that was all he needed to see to hate on Wall for life. Forget the fact that Wall seemed like one of the smartest and well-rounded people out of any of the 1-n-Done stars that Cal has had, actually going to class and getting great grades while there. But no, John Wall dougie'd so he was never going to make it in the NBA as a star because he didn't have what it takes.

The worst part about Cowherd is that it's rare to see him change his opinion on something. This guy has a narrative for everyone and everything. He'll hit you over the head with it over and over again. I can't believe so many people like him and defend him so much. Sure he's smarter than the average radio guy, I can't deny that. But he's also so damn annoying to listen to and has one of the most punchable faces in human history.

In comment 12383931 Giants2012 said:

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who cares?

So if you were Dominican, you wouldn't care?

enough with this guy

In comment 12383951 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:

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In comment 12383931 Giants2012 said: Quote: who cares? So if you were Dominican, you wouldn't care?

Nope. Everybody at one point or another will be on the receiving end of a comment they believe is ignorant. It's a waste of time and emotion to take to heart and to take seriously. It's all Babel.

But back when I listened to him occasionally, the three things I remember well about him:

1)When Michelle Wie was playing in a bunch of PGA events and said something about how she was going to be too good to play on the LPGA, he ranted about how brilliant that was and how she was going to make all her critics look stupid. Ha. Ha ha ha.

2)In Brett Favre's last season, when he was playing like garbage for the Vikings, Cowherd claimed that the Vikings would be crazy for benching him because people still wanted to see Favre play. Didn't matter that he wasn't getting the job done and was clearly through as a player, look at how many people still buy his jersey!

3)After Alabama beat Texas to win the 2009 BCS championship, he said that the SEC, teams in Texas and teams in California would be the only teams that would ever win titles from now on, because no quality players would ever go to a cold-weather school now. That's it, that was his entire argument.

without the crazy voice, hand waving, and screaming. Their "takes" seem quite similar.

You forgot to point out that he mentioned John Wall not having a father as a reason for his whacked out opinion on him.

At times like these, we all need to heal.

Sensitivity training is a good start.

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and talked about it on today's show. He was saying that baseball does not require the level of communication that football does. He also challenged the notion that baseball is a "Thinking Man's Game" (I agree with Cowherd).

He did not say, "baseball must be simple because Dominicans play it". Typical example of rampant misquoting that goes on today.

Frankly, I was expected a major, egregious rant and there was nothing there. I see nothing wrong with what he said / the example he used, essentially saying people without access to quality education can excel in baseball, therefore the notion that baseball is a "Thinking / Educated Man's Game" is erroneous.

The level of political correctness and "taking offense" is really ridiculous these days.

to succeed in the NFL. Yessiree!

In comment 12383951 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:

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In comment 12383931 Giants2012 said: Quote: who cares? So if you were Dominican, you wouldn't care?

I don't think so. I'm half Polish, half Italian. Ever heard of dumb Polock jokes, ... greasy Wop jokes? I tell them. I'm 5'5", ever heard any short jokes or read any studies showing a bias against short guys and discrimination in hiring? I'm 72 years old, ever hear any derogatory old white guy remarks? So no, I don't think so. The whole sensitivity thing is really really too much.

but the way he phrased that was rough, and given the climate of the world we live in nowadays, you can't even go as far as he did. He works for Disney. Watch what you say. This is practically an IQ test.

In comment 12384055 Greg from LI said:

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to succeed in the NFL. Yessiree!

That's why the whole convo is stupid. Unless chess is a sport, you don't need to be Einstein to succeed.

this isn't a joke, this was a serious statement that was said in a matter-of-fact manner.

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Colin Cowherd can choke on a big fat cock. As a small third world country with limited resources, we are doing pretty well. Fuck him.

Colin Cowherd can choke on a big fat cock. As a small third world country with limited resources, we are doing pretty well. Fuck him.

countries. Cowherd always comes off as if he's talking down to certain cultures.

In comment 12384024 David in LA said:

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You forgot to point out that he mentioned John Wall not having a father as a reason for his whacked out opinion on him.

I didn't even know that, he's such a douche. I've always hated Cowherd as a person after the Wall thing. There may not be a "One-n-Done" guy in recent history who came off as bright as John Wall. So many of these guys like Carmelo just punted on the college aspect of college basketball. John Wall actually went to class and earned very good grades. That was something that I really liked about him when he was a prospect. But then he does a stupid dance and that's all it takes for Cowherd to rip on his maturity and motivation? I'm happy Wall has proven Cowherd wrong.

Exactly - of all the one and done guys to try to make out to be some kind of poster child for stupidity and a lack of education, you pick John Wall?

In comment 12383511 BeerFridge said:

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In comment 12383476 Jints in Carolina said: Quote: yes, it's ignorant. The idea that occasionally a famous middle aged white guy says something racist and makes news is somehow new to you? And I'm "ignorant" for noticing it? Sorry your panties are in a bunch.

do all blacks play basketball?

In comment 12384055 Greg from LI said:

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to succeed in the NFL. Yessiree!

It certainly isn't a prerequisite to get drafted 1st in the NFL.

See: Russell, JaMarcus

In comment 12384199 Jints in Carolina said:

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In comment 12383511 BeerFridge said: Quote: In comment 12383476 Jints in Carolina said: Quote: yes, it's ignorant. The idea that occasionally a famous middle aged white guy says something racist and makes news is somehow new to you? And I'm "ignorant" for noticing it? Sorry your panties are in a bunch. do all blacks play basketball?

I see now. This is a reading comprehension failure.

In comment 12384073 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:

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this isn't a joke, this was a serious statement that was said in a matter-of-fact manner.

Yes, and it wasn't nearly as insulting or demeaning as those "jokes". The whole point I was making was about sensitivity, or I should say hypersensitivity to perceived slights. Two insulting comments don't have to be identical to both be insulting. The question was would I be insulted if I were Dominican and I said I don't think so. I understand your point that my examples were meant to be humerous, but you can't really believe they aren't insulting when they are clearly made at the expense of certain cultures and groups in an obviously demeaning manner.

is, in contrast, a dumb fucking country in comparison to more developed countries. That's a fact. Facts aren't racist.

Everybody is a pussy these days.

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In comment 12384418 Old Dirty Beckham said:

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is, in contrast, a dumb fucking country in comparison to more developed countries. That's a fact. Facts aren't racist. Everybody is a pussy these days.

What is your basis for that "fact"? Or is it that you just know it?

The MLBPA released a scathing response, and ESPN had enough

Mike Soltys ‏@espnmikes 16m16 minutes ago
Colin Cowherd�s comments over the past two days do not reflect the values of ESPN or our employees. Colin will no longer appear on ESPN.

In comment 12384474 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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The MLBPA released a scathing response, and ESPN had enough Mike Soltys ‏@espnmikes 16m16 minutes ago Colin Cowherd�s comments over the past two days do not reflect the values

lol - ESPN values? The HC has been a whore house with harassment lawsuits non-stop forever.

watch what I say or they'll cut off my Social Security check. To think, this all started with Al Campanis and Jimmy the Greek.

all that hard to fire a guy who has already quit. Nothing to lose there

In comment 12384048 Trainmaster said:

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and talked about it on today's show. He was saying that baseball does not require the level of communication that football does. He also challenged the notion that baseball is a "Thinking Man's Game" (I agree with Cowherd). He did not say, "baseball must be simple because Dominicans play it". Typical example of rampant misquoting that goes on today. Frankly, I was expected a major, egregious rant and there was nothing there. I see nothing wrong with what he said / the example he used, essentially saying people without access to quality education can excel in baseball, therefore the notion that baseball is a "Thinking / Educated Man's Game" is erroneous. The level of political correctness and "taking offense" is really ridiculous these days.

Yes. Colin Cowherd is good listen. I spend my drive to work listening to him daily.

And I myself am a color-skinned person coming from a third world country as an early teen, and got my doctoral degree in the U.S. Colin could have substituted "Dominican Republic" with the nation I was born in, and I won't be offended at all. Change the fact if you don't like it.

What Cowhered concluded today was not wrong, was not inaccurate, was not inconsiderate, and heck, was not even transient or temporary -- it likely will stay true 30 years from now.

Colin was the only sports talk I listened to in the NFL off season. He made stuff I had no interest in sound interesting. Now I won't be listening to ESPN at all in the off season, not in any sort of protest, just nothing of interest anymore.

In comment 12383465 Mike in Long Beach said:

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But yeah, that reasoning was unbelievably bad judgment. I'm actually with Greg on this one. He insinuated an entire culture picked up on a sport because they don't need to be smart to play it. And it was pretty dumb from a logical standpoint, too. The Japanese love baseball, too. Are they unintelligent? Are we?

Yes, Japan (and the U.S.) love baseball.

But, even if just staying within the confine of sports and gaming and entertainment, Japan and the U.S. both have a lot more to offer the world besides baseball, both in depth and in breadth.

Is there another team and contact sport that requires less thinking and team-coordination than baseball?
Which one, and how so?