Yanks 7-24

some interesting stuff about some under the radar guys, like Nick Goody.
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1) starters stay healthy and reasonably effective.

2) Tex, A-roid stay healthy and hot

AL East blows, they don't need to be great, just consistent.

is now pitching for the Toledo Mud Hens, so that was not quite the apocalypse that some here made it out to be.

Since like his first 3 or 4 starts the guy literally has been one of the worst starting pitchers in baseball.

coming up ,we have not been that great on the road this year

His numbers against RHP actually approach respectability (.260/.308/.361) while his numbers against LHP are ghastly (.184/.244/.224).

WS Contender. And that's no bullshit. I hope they make a splash at the deadline.

crap shoot. If they get in, they have a chance. The teams that were favorites last year fell by the wayside in the playoffs. Some of the top pitchers got hammered.

Is the aroid comment supposed to be cute or are you a prepubescent child

In comment 12383551 LS said:

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crap shoot. If they get in, they have a chance. The teams that were favorites last year fell by the wayside in the playoffs. Some of the top pitchers got hammered.

Agreed. And with the Nationals, Dodgers and Cardinals on the other side of this, i'd rather we are reasonable in our push. We have enough to challenge and if we stay healthy i'll ride that into the playoffs.

As long as this team stays healthy, they certainly have a chance.

is his fielding has turned around and he's now a plus glove like he was supposed to be. He still seems to try and do everything in a rush but that just might be who he'll always be. If they had a league average 2B you could live with Didi batting 9th everyday and letting Ryan play once and while vs lefties. But having Didi and Drew in lineup vs lefties is tough.

Cueto and Brandon Phillips for Ref and Gary Sanchez. I really hope its bullshit. I do not want to move any of the young talent.

they need another top starter. But I'm fine if they just stay the course rather than pay too much for one. I'd trade Severino and 2 B prospects for Price if he'll sign an extension though.

and I'm not making that trade without an extension. But if his arm checks out and he signs a reasonable extension fine.

compared to 237 vs. RHP. 83 at bats is nothing to draw conclusions from, IMO.

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compared to 237 vs. RHP. 83 at bats is nothing to draw conclusions from, IMO.

Those numbers are quite close to his career splits though:

vs RHP (781 PA): .262/.325/.395
vs LHP (263 PA): .184/.253/.230

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they need another top starter. But I'm fine if they just stay the course rather than pay too much for one. I'd trade Severino and 2 B prospects for Price if he'll sign an extension though.

I agree. The Yanks do not have an ace. Tanaka is not an ace. He is a good #2. Look at last years playoff teams, most of them had an ace.

SF- Bumgaudner
Cards- Wainwright
Det- Price, Scherzer
KC- Shields
A's- Grey
Wash- Strasburg
Pit- Cole
Dodgers- Kershaw

ones that did not
Angles
O's

give up their top prospects to go all in n 2015. I really want to see Severino, Judge, Bird, Refsnyder have a chance to be a new core 4, or at least solid mlbers in pinstripes.

I'd take one of them being an all star once like Gardner. Most prospects max their value before the get to MLB. Hughes, Joba, Kennedy, Betances, Manny B, Brackman were all high ceiling top the rotation prospects who would have brought back a lot before they got to MLB. I have no interest in trading the top prospects for rentals. But for an ace who will sign an extension. I'd do it as fast as I could.

Really? And Tanaka can pitch at that level, even if he hasn't done it as consistently this season.

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they need another top starter. But I'm fine if they just stay the course rather than pay too much for one. I'd trade Severino and 2 B prospects for Price if he'll sign an extension though.

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Price turns 30 on August 26 and has logged HUGE innings totals over the past decade. If signed, he MIGHT have 2-3 good years- but as the CC debacle has demostrated, even SP with a LONG track record of health are generally doomed to break down as the reach their mid-30s- and that breakdown is accelerated when that SP throws massive innings young.

The last thing the Yanks need is to rid themselves of CC's contract after 2017, only to find themselves with a similar bad deal with Price.

Besides, Severino is the guy you should be watching. He has only 88 IP this season, with a career high of 113. Generally, teams don't like prospects to throw more than 30-45 IP above that career high. However, Severino is missing some starts due to the birth of his child.

If the Yanks let him spend another week or so with mother and child, he would likely not reach anywhere near that limit- which would open the door to playoff appearances. He has been dominant as he adjusts. Call him up before September 1, and he is playoff eligible.

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I'd take one of them being an all star once like Gardner. Most prospects max their value before the get to MLB. Hughes, Joba, Kennedy, Betances, Manny B, Brackman were all high ceiling top the rotation prospects who would have brought back a lot before they got to MLB. I have no interest in trading the top prospects for rentals. But for an ace who will sign an extension. I'd do it as fast as I could.

Only 1 of the players I mentioned is a pitcher.

The fact is that unless you can develop a core of players internally it is becoming more, not less, difficult to have long term success. The guys the Yanks used to get in FA or salary dump trades in their late 20s are being tied up into their 30s now by their original teams. The TV money has really helped the smaller market teams keep their players.

The Cardinals model is the right one. Develop your own core, then add a necessary piece here and there in FA or by trade, and let over 30 guys walk no matter how great they were rather than get saddled with a bad contract (see Pujols). It's almost a baseball version of Belichick managing the cap.

than we watched the 6 guys I mentioned? Phil Hughes was supposed to Tom Seaver and he had AA stats to back it up. Montero was the best hitter since Mickey Mantle. I like home grown players too. But history tells us that most of them are at peak value before they get to MLB. Mateo is going to be Reyes? The genius of Gene Michael and Buck Showalter in the early 90's was that they knew which ones to keep and which ones to trade. In the past few years it hasn't mattered much since none of the minor leaguers have done much for the Yankees or after they've traded them. With the exception of Betances.

is that prospects have as much trade value as they do for who they might develop into. For various reasons (costs, less PED's) prospects are over valued in MLB right now. That means you can sell really high on some of them if you know what you're doing.

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than we watched the 6 guys I mentioned? Phil Hughes was supposed to Tom Seaver and he had AA stats to back it up. Montero was the best hitter since Mickey Mantle. I like home grown players too. But history tells us that most of them are at peak value before they get to MLB. Mateo is going to be Reyes? The genius of Gene Michael and Buck Showalter in the early 90's was that they knew which ones to keep and which ones to trade. In the past few years it hasn't mattered much since none of the minor leaguers have done much for the Yankees or after they've traded them. With the exception of Betances.

Stick's "genius" was that he picked better players. Cashman's genius was living off Stick's foundation for as long as he possibly could.

If you are arguing that their system was shit for 10 years or so, agreed. If you are arguing that you can build a team for long term success by signing old players to stupid contracts in his era, I disagree.

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In comment 12383884 AJ23 said: Quote: compared to 237 vs. RHP. 83 at bats is nothing to draw conclusions from, IMO. Those numbers are quite close to his career splits though: vs RHP (781 PA): .262/.325/.395 vs LHP (263 PA): .184/.253/.230

Good point. I don't know... With what's been going on at second base, I haven't really considered Didi as an issue since he shored up his fielding early on.

Every team has a struggling batter or two (or nine, if you're the Mets). I'm OK with that guy being a 25-year-old in his first season with the Yankees, replacing Derek Jeter.

I know it's been said again and again, but Drew is 32 years old and has now had some 395 plate appearances for the Yankees. His batting average is .171 in that time. "But, his defense," Girardi says.

No. Drew's defense is good at second base. It has gotten better as the season has progressed. But his defense is not good enough to allow him to have a sub-.200 batting average.
Baseball reference - 2B Fielding in 2015 - ( New Window )

Yes the Yankees drafted better back then but they traded several highly regarded prospects that did nothing when they got to MLB with the exception of Mike Lowell. Tino trade. David Cone trade are two that were examples.

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If you are arguing that their system was shit for 10 years or so, agreed. If you are arguing that you can build a team for long term success by signing old players to stupid contracts in his era,

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But I'm talking about adding one missing piece (an ace) to the current team that has about a 2 year window including this year. I don't want to trade Judge or Bird. They have spots waiting for them if they can fill them. I don't want to trade a low A SS before we see what he is at the higher levels. But Sanchez? Severino? Refsynder? Mitchell? Any of the AAA OFers? In the right deal sure send them them off.

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than we watched the 6 guys I mentioned? Phil Hughes was supposed to Tom Seaver and he had AA stats to back it up. Montero was the best hitter since Mickey Mantle. I like home grown players too. But history tells us that most of them are at peak value before they get to MLB. Mateo is going to be Reyes? The genius of Gene Michael and Buck Showalter in the early 90's was that they knew which ones to keep and which ones to trade. In the past few years it hasn't mattered much since none of the minor leaguers have done much for the Yankees or after they've traded them. With the exception of Betances.

Although he will never be a Mickey Mantel, Jesús Montero may finally be growing up. He is hitting .331 with 15 HRs at AAA this year.

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The Padres are very much willing to part ways with pitchers James Shields and Andrew Cashner as the trade deadline looms, according to ESPN.com. San Diego is apparently very active in the trade market and it "really [wants] to move" both Shields and Cashner. Casner (3-10) has a 4.10 ERA with 97 strikeouts and 34 walks in 109 2/3 innings this season. Shields has an impressive 8-3 records with a 3.77 ERA. He has 144 strikeouts and 47 walks in 126 2/3 innings.

I wonder what it would take to get Shields.

Sano shows off his monster power.

The pitch right before the HR sure looked like strike 3 to me.

and about to get worse. Love these short travel days. LOVE THEM.

into the fifth. 4.02. Bleh.

and no significant trades have been made by any team yet, unless you want to count the Kazmir trade. Hope some team out there makes a significant trade soon.

Fuckin Bullshit.

but hard to complain when the Yanks have been winning so much. Would be cool if there were some noteworthy trades going down in baseball, but still nothing. :(

for a stinker. Back at it tomorrow.

But hard not to be a bit concerned with Pineda's performance lately

Pineda has lost his slider. He finds it again and he'll bounce back. Will he find it though?

I'd rather see Mitchell get Capuano's appearances or even Ramirez.

Pinder down, Petit DFAed.