So many yell and scream about Jerry Reese's drafting but the Giants' first round picks through the 1990s (with a couple of exceptions - i.e., Rodney Hampton 1990; Ike Hilliard 1997) were alarmingly bad...
Here are your candidates:
A) Derek Brown (1994) - Sure he did only have 11 catches in 3 seasons as a Giants but he did have 87 career yards on those 11 catches so let's cut him some slack....OK maybe not
B) Thomas Lewis (1996) - How could you go wrong with a Big 10 Wide-out? Oh that's right, he went to Indiana. HOF Issac Bruce drafted nine picks later...Ouch
C) Cedric Jones - Our one-eyed defensive lineman. He did have that one fumble recovery in '98 you say and did average 1.5 tackles a game in the 73 games he played, you say.. (maybe Strahan became a HOFer because Jones was always double-teamed? Maybe not...)
You could also go "off the board" here and take Dave Brown, but technically he was a first round supplemental pick in '92, of course.
The three names above, made other first rounders such as Tyronne Wheatley ('95) and Jarrod Bunch ('91) look like draft day steals.
Also a shout out to William Joseph ('03) - obviously a man born a few years too late..
In my opinion, the "bust" saga of Derek Brown is unprecedented (allegedly, LT ripped his facemask off on the first day of training camp and he was never the same..really.) but we did have some contenders...
Case closed.
Yes - got my Browns mixed up. Derek - '92, Dave '92 supplemental...
I remember I though we'd be hearing "Brown-to-Brown" for decades...
Case closed.
He was the worst
Jones was a bad pick because he was 5th overall and they could have had Marvin Harrison or Terry Glenn. But they got SOMETHING out of him.
Dave Brown was awful, but he was also in a terrible situation, and might have had a better career under different circumstances. He was sort of ruined by Reeves and crew.
Derek Brown was just a flat-out BUST. As was Thomas Lewis, Ty Wheatley, and pretty much everyone else of that era besides Strahan, Armstead, Way, and Tiki.
Running over Deion Sanders - ( New Window )
Going from that to a guy that we discovered was blind in one eye and didn't do much scores high on the crap cupcake list.
Tyrone Wheatley did next to nothing for the Giants, but didn't he have a couple of respectable seasons in Oakland?
Lessons learned: don't draft Big 10 RBs, Notre Dame TEs, ACC QBs, or any defensive linemen from anywhere in the Cornbelt.
Tyrone Wheatley did next to nothing for the Giants, but didn't he have a couple of respectable seasons in Oakland?
Lessons learned: don't draft Big 10 RBs, Notre Dame TEs, ACC QBs, or any defensive linemen from anywhere in the Cornbelt.
I agree here ... the other disappointments at least showed some effort and tried ... These two clowns signed their contract and retirement papers on the same day ... Both part of the Jamarcus Russell Take the Money and Loaf Society ...
Jones was a bad pick because he was 5th overall and they could have had Marvin Harrison or Terry Glenn. But they got SOMETHING out of him.
Dave Brown was awful, but he was also in a terrible situation, and might have had a better career under different circumstances. He was sort of ruined by Reeves and crew.
Derek Brown was just a flat-out BUST. As was Thomas Lewis, Ty Wheatley, and pretty much everyone else of that era besides Strahan, Armstead, Way, and Tiki.
Wheatley was solid with the Raiders, i think even had a 1,000 yard season. Wrong pick for this franchise, and the Reeves era was a disaster overall.
1996 NFL Draft - ( New Window )
And plenty of our current BBI corps wants to shit-can Reese and Ross....
Look at the top 2 picks from 91-thru 96 - you had 6 1st rd picks do nothing for NY and 3 2nd rd picks
1990 - R. Hampton 2nd - M. Fox
1991 - J. Bunch - see D. Wilson. 2nd Rd pick K. McGhee
1992 - D. Brown 2nd - P. Sparks
1993 - Dave Brown 2nd - Strahan
1994 - T. Lewis, 2nd - T. Randolph
1995 - T. Wheatley 2nd - S. Gragg
1996 - C. Jones 2nd - A. Toomer
1997 - I. Hilliard 2nd - Tiki
1998 - S. Williams 2nd - J. Jurevicious
1999 - L. Pettigout 2nd - J. Montgomery
look at the 3rd rd picks: G. Mark,E. Mcaffery, A. Pierce, M. Buckley, G. Downs, R. Young, R. Oben, B. Maynard, R. Phillips, B. Alford, D. Campbell. And Reese gets hammered
4th: D. Whitmore, C. Jones, K. Hamilton, G. Bishop, C. Maumalaunga, B. Talley, R. Zatezcka, D. Kannell, P. Monty, S. Bennett,
BAD
As others posted, we had some great picks in 2nd round on...Amani, Tiki, Strahan, Armstead, Hamilton, Sparks, Way, Sehorn
Shoot, even Sean "Jim Brown" Bennett was drafted in the 90s...
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He can be considered for a lengthier period...
Wow Jurevicius is much better in my memories than he really was.
His last year here he did have 700 yards, but other than that he didn't do too much for us.
Randle was picked later and has played better yet gets killed around here.
I think for a pure head scratching pick, it had to be Thomas Lewis. Derek Brown was highly regarded by many people going into the draft. Lewis was a remote thrower.
Tyrone Wheatley did next to nothing for the Giants, but didn't he have a couple of respectable seasons in Oakland?
Lessons learned: don't draft Big 10 RBs, Notre Dame TEs, ACC QBs, or any defensive linemen from anywhere in the Cornbelt.
Philip Rivers, Russell Wilson or Matt Ryan?
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Dave Brown was less than mediocre but at least he showed some potential in his early years.
Tyrone Wheatley did next to nothing for the Giants, but didn't he have a couple of respectable seasons in Oakland?
Lessons learned: don't draft Big 10 RBs, Notre Dame TEs, ACC QBs, or any defensive linemen from anywhere in the Cornbelt.
Philip Rivers, Russell Wilson or Matt Ryan?
Wilson was drafted out of Wisconsin but 2 out 3 ain't bad.
On the other hand, they did quite well with their #2's in that decade. When you consider Michael Strahan, Tiki Barber, Amani Toomer, Philippi Sparks and Jason Sehorn, they really got 1st round value in the 2nd round. Imagine if they had picked better players in the first rounds what they might have been.
hmmm. In 1996 in addition to C. Jones GY also drafted Toomer, Oben, Kanell. In 1994, Thomas Randolph, Sehorn and Chad Bratzke followed Lewis. In 1992 it was Phillippi Sparks, Aaron Pierce, Keith Hamilton, Kent Graham.
So yes, those #1s were poor, but the overall drafts were actually pretty good. And again, of the 3, Thomas Lewis was the only real head scratcher. Derek Brown and even Jones were considered first rounders by many going into the draft.