here are some of the latest rumors:
KC almost acquired Cueto from the Reds. One of the players failed medically and the trade fell through.
Red Sox are very interested in the following pitchers: Gray (oak) Cueto (REDS) and Currasco (Clev)
Washington wants Papelbon but he will reject a trade if he is not the closer.
Rangers have re engaged the Phillies about Cole Hamels. Not sure how far they are willing to go.
Mets made a run for Tulo but Col balked. Mets willing to Trade Wheeler for a hitter. They offered him to the Brewers for Parra but they refused.
Yanks sit on their big fat asses. No surprise, Cashman is willing to put more quarters into the 2b carousel.
Why he is batting in the 300's and plays a great of.
various soures...Score.com,Rosenthhal tweets,yahoo..etc
And were turned down of course. Shit reads like an Onion article...
Parra has had a mediocre career to this point outside of one season, is having a career year, and is a FA after the season and TJS has a 95% recovery rate.
I'd do that if I were them in a heartbeat.
I wouldn't do it if I were the Mets.
I was going to say, who isn't very interested in Sonny Gray.
he should easily cost one of their young major leaguers, but with the way the Red Sox trade they'll probably get him for Rick Porcello and Brock Holt. I'm still baffled how the Dodgers bailed them out, they should still be paying Josh Beckett and Carl Crawford.
I found another blurb that corrects the first one about WHeeler.
Mets offered him to the Reds for Bruce.
Latest On Mets Pursuit Of Offense
By Charlie Wilmoth [July 25, 2015 at 3:50pm CDT]
At least based on reports, the Mets appear to be one of the busier teams as we approach the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline. Heres the latest, mostly via FOX Sports Ken Rosenthal:
The Mets tried for Rockies shortstop Troy Tulowitzki, but they believe Colorado isnt interested in a trade.
The Mets have also looked into utilityman Ben Zobrist and reliever Tyler Clippard of the Athletics, but it appears likely that the Athletics will find better deals for both players, probably in two different trades.
New York discussed sending Zack Wheeler to the Reds in a deal for outfielder Jay Bruce, but talks went nowhere. Andy Martino and Kristie Ackert of the New York Daily News reported yesterday that the Mets had discussed potential Wheeler deals with multiple clubs.
The Mets and Brewers have had talks regarding Gerardo Parra, although it appears that theres enough interest in Parra that the Brewers price has increased. Thats consistent with a tweet this afternoon from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinels Tom Haudricourt, who wrote that the Brewers have had lots of interest in Parra and will have their choice of various offers.
Offering Wheeler for Parra and being turned down sounds unrealistic and made up.
They always play things close to the vest at the trade deadline. Just because there are no rumours out there about them doesn't mean they're not doing anything.
They always play things close to the vest at the trade deadline. Just because there are no rumours out there about them doesn't mean they're not doing anything.
I think they are sitting on their big fat asses!
Im sure they want a bunch of top line players but engaging a team that you know will want one of the two players that you are not willing to part with is not really being serious.
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"Big fat asses"?
They always play things close to the vest at the trade deadline. Just because there are no rumours out there about them doesn't mean they're not doing anything.
I think they are sitting on their big fat asses!
Then you either know nothing about the Yankees during past trade deadlines or, you're simply forgetting how they do things.
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Both Rosenthal and Heyman reported that they want Hamels but don't want to include Judge in the deal
Im sure they want a bunch of top line players but engaging a team that you know will want one of the two players that you are not willing to part with is not really being serious.
No, the Yanks are gauging the Phils' asking price and waiting for the market to come down (which it will unless the Dodgers or Cubs offer something stupid). Hamels throwing a no-no really doesn't change his value because he is a known commodity with relatively consistent stats
That tells you reporters are full of shit, nothing else.
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straight up. That tells you the Mets don't think Wheeler is going to be the same after TJS
That tells you reporters are full of shit, nothing else.
That's possible too because I can't imagine Sandy initiating that conversation for a player of Gerardo Parra's caliber (league average)
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I think Sandy is dangling Niese (maybe Niese for Bruce) but can't imagine why he'd trade Wheeler when a good Wheeler next year makes the Mets rotation almost impregnable
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Then you know from past trade deadlines that that top pitchers prices do not come down. either the team is willing to over pay or the team is willing to keep them.. Example last year Samardja (sp?) got #2 prospect in all of baseball and Philies did not trade Hamels even though he was on the block.
When I say sit on their fat asses Is a personal opinion and I think that they should be working on getting a 2b than trying to gauge the interest for a pitcher we all know we wont get. We have a glaring hole that needs to be fixed.
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Both Rosenthal and Heyman reported that they want Hamels but don't want to include Judge in the deal
Im sure they want a bunch of top line players but engaging a team that you know will want one of the two players that you are not willing to part with is not really being serious.
No, the Yanks are gauging the Phils' asking price and waiting for the market to come down (which it will unless the Dodgers or Cubs offer something stupid). Hamels throwing a no-no really doesn't change his value because he is a known commodity with relatively consistent stats
Cost controlled
Young
A KNOWN quantity, which no other pitching prospect can be considered unless he is already established - which means he isn't a prospect.
A KNOWN timetable, something a prospect can never provide. When will a prospect arrive, unknown. When will they succeed, unknown. Wheeler will pitch next summer and anchor a staff opening day 2017.
A prospect is a gamble to ever even reach the majors, yet alone succeed. Wheeler is the rare "prospect" that can actually be sold to a fan base as a known quantity, a name. What's the downside of a Wheeler? He doesn't return from TJS. As a GM, which risk is greater? Wheeler doesn't return, or a prospect doesn't pan out and stays injury free himself? That is exactly how the Mets are selling Wheeler. Some will buy it, some will not.
You seem like a real winner. Way to get annoyed about something that you have no freaking clue about.
I hope that you meant to say that the Oak will need to ask for one of those prospects and not all of them in a deal, If you meant all of them, then you have no concept of trade value at all. Betts OR Bogarts and other minor pieces is worth Gray.
Just not sure how it shakes out. And this isn't even mentioning Cuddyer even though he certainly doesn't warrant anything more than a platoon or 4th/5th OF spot at this point.
You seem like a real winner. Way to get annoyed about something that you have no freaking clue about.
No you are the winner. Its just a personal opinion and yet you feel the need to take a jab at me. You have absolutely no class. My opinion while most may not agree with it, is my opinion. There is no need to hurl and insult. You are whats wrong with this board and this world.
You seem like a real winner. Way to get annoyed about something that you have no freaking clue about.
Agreed...everyone in the baseball world knows the Yanks want Hamels bad but they are telling the Phils that the offer won't be great in terms of prospects unless the Phils eat a part of Hamels' contract. Nobody is going to offer the Phils a gigantic prospect load unless the Phils eat part of that $73 million. The only exception to this is if the Dodgers offer Puig who makes $6 million himself and the Phils like Puig
Not trying to shit on Wheeler or deal him in a panic move, but realistically you're talking about a guy who is unlikely to contribute much to the teams W-L record in the next 2 postseasons (which are the ultimate goal that needs to be front of mind with every move they make). The guys being discussed in the context of dealing him would pretty much instantly become this team's best every day player (Gomez, Bruce, Tulo, etc.).
He is purely a two-moth rental. Not a building block
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indicate that they think their bad year is a fluke and they will be good next year with almost the same core. If I'm Oakland though I hold them up for Betts, Bogaerts and Moncada for Sonny Gray. That's an insane rumor
I hope that you meant to say that the Oak will need to ask for one of those prospects and not all of them in a deal, If you meant all of them, then you have no concept of trade value at all. Betts OR Bogarts and other minor pieces is worth Gray.
LOL no, trading Sonny Gray is like trading DeGrom or Harvey. It would be equal to at least Betts + Bogaerts as he is a 24-year old ace making peanuts and affordable for the rest of the decade
I don't think they feel it's a fluke, I think they underestimated the need for "ace" quality pitching when they let Lester walk. A lot of local media here in Boston said they're rotation is really 5 #3 pitchers, and they've in a lot of cases been worse than that.
So, they like their lineup, but need to get an ace, and Sonny Gray fits that bill, especially being so young, and cost-controlled. He should land a kings ransom if they deal him.
The Sox should be in on Wheeler. Even Niese would be an upgrade on their stafff.
I'd love to see the Mets get Bogaerts and I'd trade Wheeler, Flores/Tejada, and some younger prospects for him.
the Sox have Garin Cecchini, maybe get his brother and form the left side of the infield (wouldn't be the best fielding left side of an infield, but it's a nice story and pink hat nation loves nice stories), move Panda to 1B.
one of the two and some lesser prospects, not both.
Source: #Royals getting Cueto.
Just not sure how it shakes out. And this isn't even mentioning Cuddyer even though he certainly doesn't warrant anything more than a platoon or 4th/5th OF spot at this point.
Lagares becomes 4th OF'er and late game sub (or he gets the surgery and Kirk fills that role). Cespedes has played about 600 innings in CF over the past 3 years while Grandy has only played about 300. Also the corner guys will need days off every once in a while which can get Lagares back in against lefties, Conforto included since this is his first pro season and it's likely more games than he's ever played before.
one of the two and some lesser prospects, not both.
You said Gray would be worth a king's ransom in trade, well there you go