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NFT: Last Night's True Detective

RobCarpenter : 7/27/2015 1:40 am
The dialogue in that scene with VV and CF was brutal.

At least we got to see RM cleaned up and in a dress.

Mostly I'm still in a "hate but invested this much time already' mode.

What do others think?
Thought this was the best  
halfback20 : 7/27/2015 2:09 am : link
Episode this season. I am still a little lost but it's gotten better as the season has progressed. It's difficult but I am trying to not compare it to last season.
I've enjoyed this season  
Kulish29 : 7/27/2015 2:25 am : link
It's not season one but, expecting it to live up to those standards just isn't fair.
I just got tired of watching season 2 episodes  
Ira : 7/27/2015 7:03 am : link
in the hope that there would be some improvement. It's just another complicated story done by people trying to be profound.
I think I need to re watch earlier episodes  
schabadoo : 7/27/2015 7:13 am : link
I'm obviously missing details.

And this Mexican gang seems more trouble than bargained for.
RE: I just got tired of watching season 2 episodes  
mfsd : 7/27/2015 7:42 am : link
In comment 12386856 Ira said:
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in the hope that there would be some improvement. It's just another complicated story done by people trying to be profound.


Pretty much agree on all fronts.

At least the story is finally progressing. But I feel so much less invested in this one - I really don't care who really killed this Casper fellow
Good episode.  
RicFlair : 7/27/2015 9:23 am : link
Digging this season.

Farrell is the man.
the action sequence in episode 4 was the high point  
Eric on Li : 7/27/2015 9:24 am : link
everything else has been a low point. Just lots and lots of threads (like the Stan thing last night) that feel really out of context because you barely know who they are even referencing. Almost all of them revolve around the VV side of the story, which falls flat every time, but even a lot of the clues in the investigation part of the story fall into that category as well.
RE: Good episode.  
mfsd : 7/27/2015 9:27 am : link
In comment 12386948 RicFlair said:
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Digging this season.

Farrell is the man.


Agree on CF - some may not have liked it, but I loved his booze/coke binge scene, probably bc I did that many times in the old days, the range of emotions brought me back

And Rachel MacAdams is still a smoke show
..  
Named Later : 7/27/2015 10:08 am : link
When I saw the intro with the ever-popular V,N,AC for Violence, Nudity and Adult Content....I was hoping we'd finally get a glimpse of Rach's goods. Imagine my disappointment when it was only background Hooters and not much of them.

Only 2 Episodes left. How will they wrap it up ??

I predict Vince dies next week. And Colin gets it in the Final.
I predict  
RicFlair : 7/27/2015 10:41 am : link
Blake, Vince Vaughn's guy who is involved with the women at the parties, I predict he is the guy who gave the information about the guy who raped Farrell's wife and got him killed, and I also predict it was actually he who raped Farrell's wife.

He has the hair color to be the kid's real father.
RE: I predict  
schabadoo : 7/27/2015 10:45 am : link
In comment 12387145 RicFlair said:
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Blake, Vince Vaughn's guy who is involved with the women at the parties, I predict he is the guy who gave the information about the guy who raped Farrell's wife and got him killed, and I also predict it was actually he who raped Farrell's wife.

He has the hair color to be the kid's real father.


But doesn't that get into faking/framing dna evidence?

Easier story is she had an affair with the red-headed guy.
RE: RE: I predict  
RicFlair : 7/27/2015 10:50 am : link
In comment 12387153 schabadoo said:
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In comment 12387145 RicFlair said:


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Blake, Vince Vaughn's guy who is involved with the women at the parties, I predict he is the guy who gave the information about the guy who raped Farrell's wife and got him killed, and I also predict it was actually he who raped Farrell's wife.

He has the hair color to be the kid's real father.



But doesn't that get into faking/framing dna evidence?

Easier story is she had an affair with the red-headed guy.



maybe. I shouldn't try to make predictions with this show.
Last night actually cleared some things up..  
arcarsenal : 7/27/2015 11:32 am : link
I feel it started showing how all of the different storylines are connected and tie together which was something I was struggling with over the first few episodes.

I think the mistake this season made was that they just piled too much into the first few episodes. No one knew what they were really following or what to focus on. It was like.. "wait.. am I following this plot line or... does this one matter or was it just some minute detail?" etc.

It's moving along now, though. Last night, for really the first time, I felt like I didn't have to pause and think about how something that happened had anything to do with something else. I just kind of understood what was happening and who was who and was able to enjoy it.
I would be enjoying it more  
steve in ky : 7/27/2015 1:08 pm : link
If I hadn't seen the first season. It really is an entirely different show and it's probably unfair that it suffers because of the comparison between the first season and second but it does.

As a stand alone it really isn't so bad. My wife didn't watch season one but is watching this season and is enjoying it much more than I am.
RE: RE: I just got tired of watching season 2 episodes  
RobCarpenter : 7/27/2015 4:56 pm : link
In comment 12386866 mfsd said:
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in the hope that there would be some improvement. It's just another complicated story done by people trying to be profound.



Pretty much agree on all fronts.

At least the story is finally progressing. But I feel so much less invested in this one - I really don't care who really killed this Casper fellow


Ditto. I'm tired of the VV scenes, and his wife annoys me more than any character since Dana on Homeland.
It must have quite the reputation  
Bill L : 7/27/2015 5:00 pm : link
Nearly every recap and review I read spends more time on their treatment of women as if the female characters actually existed. The critiques barely pay attention to the show other than through that filter.
I'd hate to be Rachel's sister  
Bill L : 7/27/2015 6:12 pm : link
Her name is out there now, associated with a killing, a hostage rescue, and stealing the major contract. Bu-bye art school
RE: It must have quite the reputation  
schabadoo : 7/27/2015 6:25 pm : link
In comment 12387850 Bill L said:
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Nearly every recap and review I read spends more time on their treatment of women as if the female characters actually existed. The critiques barely pay attention to the show other than through that filter.


Maybe last season. All secondary one dimensional characters.

RE: RE: It must have quite the reputation  
Bill L : 7/27/2015 6:40 pm : link
In comment 12387938 schabadoo said:
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In comment 12387850 Bill L said:


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Nearly every recap and review I read spends more time on their treatment of women as if the female characters actually existed. The critiques barely pay attention to the show other than through that filter.



Maybe last season. All secondary one dimensional characters.

I guess my question would be, does it matter? Maybe you just can have distaste for the character, like VV this year, but still enjoy the show?

One of the things that makes me roll my eyes over LOTR and the hobbit is forcing female characters who barely have any role in the book to have lots of screen time. It's not necessary in my opinion ( and I do like female characters in general). Do what the story calls for and portray as best as you can. But reviewers of true detective apparently feel differently since that's pretty much all the reviews are about each week.
'all the reviews each week'  
schabadoo : 7/27/2015 6:48 pm : link
I only check out AV Club and Reddit normally, maybe Grantland. Never saw one of these type of reviews.
You're righ; I should be more careful with my language  
Bill L : 7/27/2015 7:17 pm : link
Especially nowadays.

I have to say that I'm not smart enough to understand everything in this show, so each week I read a ton, maybe 8-10 recaps by a different sources so others can tell me what I saw (and what it meant). I'd say nearly half of them each week mention treatment of women,

One went into a big harangue this morning about how Ani's flashback was gratuitous and trite because a strong woman just *has* to have some sort of sexual a use as a trigger. Then she went on to harangue GoT for rape scenes. And then there was a little bit on what happened on True Detective which I took as a sop to dummies like me.
You're probably 9 levels deeper than me then  
schabadoo : 7/27/2015 7:41 pm : link
But everything seems to be labeled trite: the repressed homosexual staring at the hustler, Ani and sister's hippy names, etc.

I will say that this season is horribly contrived  
Bill L : 7/27/2015 7:50 pm : link
My favorite from last night is that the very second Paul goes to the window, the two baddies talk about how they committed the theft of Vince Vaughn's money. And then they get called away and leave the most critical piece of evidence and most critical element of their top secret plan, the contract, laying on the desk.
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