Great for ratings, not so good for rational discussion. Huckabee got more air time for that comment than he has for anything else he said over the last 4 weeks.
Presidential aspirant and former governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee joined Breitbart’s editor-in-chief Alexander Marlow in an interview on Saturday.
Appearing on Breitbart News Saturday, the governor demonstrated his keen ability to articulate conservative principles and values—a likely reason why he enjoys the highest favorability ratings of all GOP candidates running for president in 2016.
Governor Huckabee didn’t pull any punches when talking about Obama’s Iran nuclear deal: “This president’s foreign policy is the most feckless in American history. It is so naive that he would trust the Iranians. By doing so, he will take the Israelis and march them to the door of the oven. This is the most idiotic thing, this Iran deal. It should be rejected by both Democrats and Republicans in Congress and by the American people. I read the whole deal. We gave away the whole store. It’s got to be stopped.”
Modestly, Huckabee acknowledges that his high favorability rating is good news. “People don’t vote for someone they don’t like. So I just got a make sure I don’t start doing stuff that make people stop liking me,” he chuckled.
it appears that this administration could give a flying fuck. But that's their prerogative and Huckabee should be more tactful.
And if a candidate gave a 3 minute, point-by-point citation of the problems with the agreement (remember, it's NOT a treaty) how much coverage would it get?
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Republican presidential candidate and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee speaks at the Republican National Committee spring meeting Friday, May 15, 2015, in Scottsdale, Ariz. (AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin)
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Mike Huckabee not backing down after Holocaust remark
By NICK GASS 7/27/15 6:47 AM EDT
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Mike Huckabee is not backing away from his strident criticism of President Barack Obama and the Iranian nuclear deal.
A day after making an explicit comparison to the Holocaust in denouncing the agreement, the Republican presidential candidate and former governor of Arkansas continued to make his case on Twitter.
In an earlier interview with Breitbart News published Saturday, Huckabee said that Obama is “naive” in trusting Iran to uphold its part of the deal. “By doing so, he will take the Israelis and march them to the door of the oven.”
The Anti-Defamation League, which monitors anti-Semitism, immediately denounced Huckabee’s language.
“Whatever one’s views of the nuclear agreement with Iran – and we have been critical of it, noting that there are serious unanswered questions that need to be addressed – comments such as those by Mike Huckabee suggesting the president is leading Israel to another Holocaust are completely out of line and unacceptable,” ADL’s National Director Jonathan Greenblatt said in a statement. “To hear Mr. Huckabee invoke the Holocaust when America is Israel’s greatest ally and when Israel is a strong nation capable of defending itself is disheartening.”
that Isarael feels, backed by more justification than not, that the deal threatens their greatly.
Is that true? My impression was that Bibi was speaking for the fringe of a more carefully considered public sentiment.
No. They might not like Bibi, but they don't like this deal.
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Poll: 47 percent of Israelis back Iran strike following nuke deal
In survey by Maariv, 71% say they believe accord brings Iran closer to bomb, and 51% support bypassing Obama in effort to nix it
I think the comment was over the top, but let's face it, this deal is not in Israel's best interest. Do you know that the US and Europeans have to help Iran from attack or sabotage of their nuke sites? So if Israel decides that Iran is getting the bomb and will attack, will that mean we are at war with Israel? Link - ( New Window )
Do you know that the US and Europeans have to help Iran from attack or sabotage of their nuke sites? So if Israel decides that Iran is getting the bomb and will attack, will that mean we are at war with Israel?
Rubio: "If Israel conducts an airstrike against a physical facility, does this deal, the way I read it, does it require us to help Iran protect and respond to that threat?"
Kerry: "No."
Rubio followed up with a similar question:
Rubio: "If Israel conducts cyber attack against Iranian nuclear program are we obligated to help them defend themselves against the Israeli cyberattack?"
Kerry: "No, I assure you, that we will be coordinating very, very closely with Israel as we do on every aspect of Israel’s security."
Huckeby can go quit, just like Trump needs to quit, and run a radio show that nobody listens to.
You don't use the holocaust to score cheap political points.
Even I, as a conservative, have been a bit leery of the lack of rationality visa vis this deal with Iran.
It could very well end up making Israel more secure, not less, I will leave that for greater minds, but, in any case, is not the type of issue to use as a political pin ball.
but these guys are trying to standout in a crowded field.
Agreed that that was is intent, but you can't come up with a better sound byte than this? The whole point is to make yourself appear electable, not idiotic.
but these guys are trying to standout in a crowded field.
Agreed that that was is intent, but you can't come up with a better sound byte than this? The whole point is to make yourself appear electable, not idiotic.
Right now it's not electable. Right now it's to get yourself into the Top 10 so you're at the "adults table" in the first 2 debates. That's one aspect of the Trumpification of this election. The key is not 51%, it's whatever percentage needed to get you maximum air time. And that can be as little as 5-7%.
or justification for hate speech and that is exactly what Huckabee's comment is. I an sick of Republicans cheapening and disrespecting the legacy of the Holocaust and slandering its victims. Compare Obamacare to the Holocaust? Depict the POTUS as a Nazi -- over and over and over? This is not political discourse. This is a tactic out of the Josef Goebbel's playbook. Re the Iran deal, there are many in Israel, including my relatives, who support it and many in the political and government establishment, including former foreign affairs and intelligence officials who support is as well.
Everything about modern politics in this country seems Â
being the civil, soft-spoken southern preacher man. So why not stir up some shit to get people talking? It worked for Trump, would anyone be talking about Huckabee today if he hadn't made those comments? Nope.
I think the Iran agreement will bolster the moderate the young, middle class Iranians who are mostly pro-western.
or justification for hate speech and that is exactly what Huckabee's comment is. I an sick of Republicans cheapening and disrespecting the legacy of the Holocaust and slandering its victims. Compare Obamacare to the Holocaust? Depict the POTUS as a Nazi -- over and over and over? This is not political discourse. This is a tactic out of the Josef Goebbel's playbook. Re the Iran deal, there are many in Israel, including my relatives, who support it and many in the political and government establishment, including former foreign affairs and intelligence officials who support is as well.
I don't think it's hate speech, though totally inappropriate. But what do you think of the Democrat heading the NJEA referring to the Governor of New Jersey as "Adolph Christie" at a rally in Trenton? It seems to me nobody has a monopoly on these inappropriate statements.
sign the deal. I think mikeygiants makes a good point. If we could Â
sign arms agreements with the USSR who could destroy the planet in 20 seconds, why not with Iran who has NO NUKES (according to every US Intel agency).
And strategically, Iran is the only true "country" in that area of the world, meaning not a square drawn in the desert by the Sykes-Picot agreement after WWI regardless of what peoples lived within. They are still Persians, no Arabs. Why not engage them? We have relations with Vietnam, Cuba, why not Iran? It could be a mid east version of Nixon opening to China.
or justification for hate speech and that is exactly what Huckabee's comment is. I an sick of Republicans cheapening and disrespecting the legacy of the Holocaust and slandering its victims. Compare Obamacare to the Holocaust? Depict the POTUS as a Nazi -- over and over and over? This is not political discourse. This is a tactic out of the Josef Goebbel's playbook. Re the Iran deal, there are many in Israel, including my relatives, who support it and many in the political and government establishment, including former foreign affairs and intelligence officials who support is as well.
I don't think it's hate speech, though totally inappropriate. But what do you think of the Democrat heading the NJEA referring to the Governor of New Jersey as "Adolph Christie" at a rally in Trenton? It seems to me nobody has a monopoly on these inappropriate statements.
And who could forget Al Sharpton's "Adolf Ghouliani".
RE: Everything about modern politics in this country seems Â
Andrew Jackson engaged in bar fights, gun battles and shot Charles Dickinson to death over an insult. He used newspapers to spread lies and insult his opponents.
And the Jefferson vs Adams campaign was much worse than anything recent.
These GOP candidates stick their head up to say something stupid, only to be beaten down by common sense. Why is it that they have less sense than the voters?
trying to legitimize Huckabee by bringing up Sharpton & someone in New Jersey? I'd like to punch them in their faces too. Huckabee said this Saturday, If I started a thread on what those people said this morning, I should be banned for starting shit. Two or Three or 100 wrongs dont make it right and that's what you seem to be doing here
or justification for hate speech and that is exactly what Huckabee's comment is. I an sick of Republicans cheapening and disrespecting the legacy of the Holocaust and slandering its victims. Compare Obamacare to the Holocaust? Depict the POTUS as a Nazi -- over and over and over? This is not political discourse. This is a tactic out of the Josef Goebbel's playbook. Re the Iran deal, there are many in Israel, including my relatives, who support it and many in the political and government establishment, including former foreign affairs and intelligence officials who support is as well.
1)Define hate speech and illustrate how Huckabee's dipshit political hyperbole fits said definition.
2)Give me a motherfucking break with "depicting the POTUS as a Nazi" bullshit, because unless someone gave you a traumative brain injury sometime since 2008, you're one disingenuous motherfucker:
Andrew Jackson engaged in bar fights, gun battles and shot Charles Dickinson to death over an insult. He used newspapers to spread lies and insult his opponents.
And the Jefferson vs Adams campaign was much worse than anything recent.
Andrew Jackson engaged in bar fights, gun battles and shot Charles Dickinson to death over an insult. He used newspapers to spread lies and insult his opponents.
And the Jefferson vs Adams campaign was much worse than anything recent.
Good perspective. I guess I just have a naively noble idea of what running for office should be.
topics bring out the worst in people. brains shut off, reason is thrown out the window, and people see things they think they see or want to see. and they get rabid, outraged, and indignant about it.
not saying that's the case with these comments HH has every right to be offended by, but the selective commentary from others is a perfect example.
trying to legitimize Huckabee by bringing up Sharpton & someone in New Jersey? I'd like to punch them in their faces too. Huckabee said this Saturday, If I started a thread on what those people said this morning, I should be banned for starting shit. Two or Three or 100 wrongs dont make it right and that's what you seem to be doing here
Who's trying to legitimize Huckabee? We're just pointing out to clutterbuck that his statement was total bullshit.
HH, nobody is trying to"legitimize", just pointing out that this is Â
And I not only disagree with the tone of H'bee and these other imbeciles, I disagree with the content too. All mouthing the same nonsense, marching somebody else's sons off to another pointless war with no definition of victory.
I think this is one of the 2 best things Obama has done along with ending the Cuba charade.
Here's the American Bar Association definition of hate speech that I think applies:"Hate speech is speech that offends, threatens or insults groups based on race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, or other traits." You could have pointed out omission of examples of this kind of slander against President Bush without resorting to the "disingenuous motherfucker" language but in any case you are absolutely correct that is equally offensive and wrong. But this tactic has become persistent and prevalent in Republican Party rhetoric.
to give Iran, which does want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, lots of leeway to exceed the limits first, then get a spanking for going over the line.
The time-line for inspection notifications isn't so different than before the deal, and is somewhat similar to US border patrols being 44+ miles away from US-Mexico border: lots of wiggle room.
Were politicians this would be a sign of something or other in modern politics. Neither are (one was once), nor likely ever will be again - both exist for the advancement of their individual brands and by extension, wealth. Building a brand isn't done with subtlety.
Appearing on Breitbart News Saturday, the governor demonstrated his keen ability to articulate conservative principles and values—a likely reason why he enjoys the highest favorability ratings of all GOP candidates running for president in 2016.
Governor Huckabee didn’t pull any punches when talking about Obama’s Iran nuclear deal: “This president’s foreign policy is the most feckless in American history. It is so naive that he would trust the Iranians. By doing so, he will take the Israelis and march them to the door of the oven. This is the most idiotic thing, this Iran deal. It should be rejected by both Democrats and Republicans in Congress and by the American people. I read the whole deal. We gave away the whole store. It’s got to be stopped.”
Modestly, Huckabee acknowledges that his high favorability rating is good news. “People don’t vote for someone they don’t like. So I just got a make sure I don’t start doing stuff that make people stop liking me,” he chuckled.
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And if a candidate gave a 3 minute, point-by-point citation of the problems with the agreement (remember, it's NOT a treaty) how much coverage would it get?
Is that true? My impression was that Bibi was speaking for the fringe of a more carefully considered public sentiment.
These people are so out of touch with reality it is scary.
Republican presidential candidate and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee speaks at the Republican National Committee spring meeting Friday, May 15, 2015, in Scottsdale, Ariz. (AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin)
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Mike Huckabee not backing down after Holocaust remark
By NICK GASS 7/27/15 6:47 AM EDT
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Mike Huckabee is not backing away from his strident criticism of President Barack Obama and the Iranian nuclear deal.
A day after making an explicit comparison to the Holocaust in denouncing the agreement, the Republican presidential candidate and former governor of Arkansas continued to make his case on Twitter.
In an earlier interview with Breitbart News published Saturday, Huckabee said that Obama is “naive” in trusting Iran to uphold its part of the deal. “By doing so, he will take the Israelis and march them to the door of the oven.”
The Anti-Defamation League, which monitors anti-Semitism, immediately denounced Huckabee’s language.
“Whatever one’s views of the nuclear agreement with Iran – and we have been critical of it, noting that there are serious unanswered questions that need to be addressed – comments such as those by Mike Huckabee suggesting the president is leading Israel to another Holocaust are completely out of line and unacceptable,” ADL’s National Director Jonathan Greenblatt said in a statement. “To hear Mr. Huckabee invoke the Holocaust when America is Israel’s greatest ally and when Israel is a strong nation capable of defending itself is disheartening.”
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that Isarael feels, backed by more justification than not, that the deal threatens their greatly.
Is that true? My impression was that Bibi was speaking for the fringe of a more carefully considered public sentiment.
No. They might not like Bibi, but they don't like this deal.
Poll: 47 percent of Israelis back Iran strike following nuke deal
In survey by Maariv, 71% say they believe accord brings Iran closer to bomb, and 51% support bypassing Obama in effort to nix it
I think the comment was over the top, but let's face it, this deal is not in Israel's best interest. Do you know that the US and Europeans have to help Iran from attack or sabotage of their nuke sites? So if Israel decides that Iran is getting the bomb and will attack, will that mean we are at war with Israel?
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that Isarael feels, backed by more justification than not, that the deal threatens their greatly.
Is that true? My impression was that Bibi was speaking for the fringe of a more carefully considered public sentiment.
Polls in Israel are split 50-50 on the deal. So there's a lot of question. 'Some in Israel feel...' seems more accurate.
Wow, do tell. I guess I've missed a lot!
Rubio: "If Israel conducts an airstrike against a physical facility, does this deal, the way I read it, does it require us to help Iran protect and respond to that threat?"
Kerry: "No."
Rubio followed up with a similar question:
Rubio: "If Israel conducts cyber attack against Iranian nuclear program are we obligated to help them defend themselves against the Israeli cyberattack?"
Kerry: "No, I assure you, that we will be coordinating very, very closely with Israel as we do on every aspect of Israel’s security."
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You don't use the holocaust to score cheap political points.
Even I, as a conservative, have been a bit leery of the lack of rationality visa vis this deal with Iran.
It could very well end up making Israel more secure, not less, I will leave that for greater minds, but, in any case, is not the type of issue to use as a political pin ball.
Sorry, there may be a universe in which what's good for Israel isn't NECESSARILY and EXACTLY what's good for the U.S. It could happen.
people get so worked up over words, and I'm not saying you shouldn't, it's up to each person when do be offended or outraged.
I just wouldn't pay so much attention to what Huckabee says.
Agreed that that was is intent, but you can't come up with a better sound byte than this? The whole point is to make yourself appear electable, not idiotic.
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but these guys are trying to standout in a crowded field.
Agreed that that was is intent, but you can't come up with a better sound byte than this? The whole point is to make yourself appear electable, not idiotic.
Right now it's not electable. Right now it's to get yourself into the Top 10 so you're at the "adults table" in the first 2 debates. That's one aspect of the Trumpification of this election. The key is not 51%, it's whatever percentage needed to get you maximum air time. And that can be as little as 5-7%.
I think the Iran agreement will bolster the moderate the young, middle class Iranians who are mostly pro-western.
I don't think it's hate speech, though totally inappropriate. But what do you think of the Democrat heading the NJEA referring to the Governor of New Jersey as "Adolph Christie" at a rally in Trenton? It seems to me nobody has a monopoly on these inappropriate statements.
And strategically, Iran is the only true "country" in that area of the world, meaning not a square drawn in the desert by the Sykes-Picot agreement after WWI regardless of what peoples lived within. They are still Persians, no Arabs. Why not engage them? We have relations with Vietnam, Cuba, why not Iran? It could be a mid east version of Nixon opening to China.
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or justification for hate speech and that is exactly what Huckabee's comment is. I an sick of Republicans cheapening and disrespecting the legacy of the Holocaust and slandering its victims. Compare Obamacare to the Holocaust? Depict the POTUS as a Nazi -- over and over and over? This is not political discourse. This is a tactic out of the Josef Goebbel's playbook. Re the Iran deal, there are many in Israel, including my relatives, who support it and many in the political and government establishment, including former foreign affairs and intelligence officials who support is as well.
I don't think it's hate speech, though totally inappropriate. But what do you think of the Democrat heading the NJEA referring to the Governor of New Jersey as "Adolph Christie" at a rally in Trenton? It seems to me nobody has a monopoly on these inappropriate statements.
And who could forget Al Sharpton's "Adolf Ghouliani".
Andrew Jackson engaged in bar fights, gun battles and shot Charles Dickinson to death over an insult. He used newspapers to spread lies and insult his opponents.
And the Jefferson vs Adams campaign was much worse than anything recent.
1)Define hate speech and illustrate how Huckabee's dipshit political hyperbole fits said definition.
2)Give me a motherfucking break with "depicting the POTUS as a Nazi" bullshit, because unless someone gave you a traumative brain injury sometime since 2008, you're one disingenuous motherfucker:
Andrew Jackson engaged in bar fights, gun battles and shot Charles Dickinson to death over an insult. He used newspapers to spread lies and insult his opponents.
And the Jefferson vs Adams campaign was much worse than anything recent.
Just look at their attack ads!
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so uncivil, non-intellectual, and greasy.
Andrew Jackson engaged in bar fights, gun battles and shot Charles Dickinson to death over an insult. He used newspapers to spread lies and insult his opponents.
And the Jefferson vs Adams campaign was much worse than anything recent.
Good perspective. I guess I just have a naively noble idea of what running for office should be.
not saying that's the case with these comments HH has every right to be offended by, but the selective commentary from others is a perfect example.
Who's trying to legitimize Huckabee? We're just pointing out to clutterbuck that his statement was total bullshit.
And I not only disagree with the tone of H'bee and these other imbeciles, I disagree with the content too. All mouthing the same nonsense, marching somebody else's sons off to another pointless war with no definition of victory.
I think this is one of the 2 best things Obama has done along with ending the Cuba charade.
no worries here HH.
he is obviously just an utter moron
The time-line for inspection notifications isn't so different than before the deal, and is somewhat similar to US border patrols being 44+ miles away from US-Mexico border: lots of wiggle room.