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NFT: 1st GOP Presidential Debate: Who’ll be In, Who’ll be Out?

sphinx : 7/27/2015 7:58 pm
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Fox News, which is hosting the first debate next Thursday in Cleveland, says that they will include the top 10 candidates from an average of the five most recent national polls. But Fox News isn’t saying which polls they will use to calculate their average, leaving the rest of us to play a guessing game. [...]

Who's In

According to an ABC News analysis of five recent major national polls on July 27 ... Donald Trump, Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee and Ben Carson.

Who's Out

Another three candidates are almost certainly going to miss the mark. Carly Fiorina, George Pataki and Lindsey Graham [...]

Chris Christie and Rick Perry currently hold the last two spots on the debate stage. John Kasich, who just announced his candidacy last week, misses the debate stage by just two-tenths of a percentage point. Rick Santorum and Bobby Jindal are close behind, but still watching from home on Aug. 6.

FULL STANDINGS (as of July 27):

1. Trump – 18 percent

2. Bush – 14 percent

3. Walker – 11 percent

4. Rubio – 6 percent

T5. Paul – 6 percent

T5. Cruz – 6 percent

7. Huckabee – 6 percent

8. Carson – 5 percent

9. Christie – 3.0 percent

10. Perry – 2.2 percent

11. Kasich – 2.0 percent

12. Santorum – 1.6 percent

13. Jindal – 1.4 percent

14. Fiorina – 0.8 percent

15. Pataki – 0.6 percent

16. Graham – 0.2 percent

[...]


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He's a political nobody  
buford : 8/6/2015 3:26 pm : link
and is in 5th place. That's pretty good. There are also 2 hispanic candidates that are doing well.

The Dem candidates are a bunch of old white people, so I would be throwing around the race card right about now.
RE: He's a political nobody  
Sgrcts : 8/6/2015 3:40 pm : link
In comment 12405171 buford said:
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and is in 5th place. That's pretty good. There are also 2 hispanic candidates that are doing well.

The Dem candidates are a bunch of old white people, so I would be throwing around the race card right about now.


Again, your point that people are somehow misguided for voting due to race or gender when thats exactly what the republican base is doing with the extra special weight of religion thrown in there. If you somehow think republicans are more diverse, when the VAST majority of the republican base are white christian males, and the vast majority of republican politicians are the same is dumber then the normal dumb shit you post.
Play with the numbers  
Sgrcts : 8/6/2015 3:42 pm : link
Its not even close
Political leanings by demographics - ( New Window )
I get it  
buford : 8/6/2015 3:43 pm : link
when people vote for white democrats, it's ok. When people vote for black Republicans, it's meaningless. Got it.
RE: I get it  
Sgrcts : 8/6/2015 3:46 pm : link
In comment 12405226 buford said:
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when people vote for white democrats, it's ok. When people vote for black Republicans, it's meaningless. Got it.


How many black republicans have been elected to office?

and do you even understand the idea  
Sgrcts : 8/6/2015 3:49 pm : link
of outliers? Pointing to Ben Carson who has 5% of the support so far in the race as proof of broad diversity is so dumb. Especially considering his views are essentially the same as the rest of the white males in his party, and driven vastly by religion.

There are 43 black members of congress  
Sgrcts : 8/6/2015 3:50 pm : link
ONE is a Republican.

BUT BEN CARSON!
There are 20 female senators  
Sgrcts : 8/6/2015 3:54 pm : link
15 are democrats.


There are 100 female congresswomen.

76 are democrats.

Do the math.
Shocker  
Sgrcts : 8/6/2015 4:35 pm : link
Silence.
Sorry, I have a job  
buford : 8/6/2015 4:48 pm : link
and it doesn't entail responding immediately to your ridiculous posts.

Since there is no convincing you that Republicans aren't racists and Democrats are the greatest thing since sliced bread, I'll say good bye.
Sorry, I have a job  
Headhunter : 8/6/2015 4:50 pm : link
and I can use it as an excuse when I put my foot in my mouth
just remember folks for future conversations  
Headhunter : 8/6/2015 4:53 pm : link
when buford goes off the rails against Planned Parenthood, she was the one who coined "fuck trophies", so when she sheds crocodile tears for those embryo's, remember how she feels about babies
It sucks that defending yourself  
Bill L : 8/6/2015 4:54 pm : link
from \gratuitous racism charges now constitutes putting your foot in your mouth.
I know that you guys don't like her  
Bill L : 8/6/2015 6:51 pm : link
(Especially the dems who will bad mouth just because )

But I thought Fiorina just kicked ass.
RE: I know that you guys don't like her  
steve in ky : 8/6/2015 6:53 pm : link
In comment 12405624 Bill L said:
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(Especially the dems who will bad mouth just because )

But I thought Fiorina just kicked ass.


I only caught part of it because I was out but from what I saw I would agree
At what point  
Sgrcts : 8/6/2015 7:45 pm : link
did I say anyone was racist or any party was racist?

I pointed out that criticizing anyone for voting due to gender or race is ironic since most of the Republican base votes for the race, gender and religion that matches theres.

Bufords response was "But Ben Carson!", and some nonsense about the democratic being all old white people.

I never said Republicans were racist, I said that being upset because people are voting based on race or gender are exactly what republicans do, with religion thrown in the mix.
I'm Trump  
Headhunter : 8/6/2015 7:49 pm : link
I bring Melania on stage at the end in a low cut dress wearing fuck me pumps and his support goes up 20 points
RE: I know that you guys don't like her  
buford : 8/6/2015 7:50 pm : link
In comment 12405624 Bill L said:
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(Especially the dems who will bad mouth just because )

But I thought Fiorina just kicked ass.


Yeah, she did really well. Everyone has been impressed.
RE: At what point  
buford : 8/6/2015 7:50 pm : link
In comment 12405657 Sgrcts said:
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did I say anyone was racist or any party was racist?

I pointed out that criticizing anyone for voting due to gender or race is ironic since most of the Republican base votes for the race, gender and religion that matches theres.

Bufords response was "But Ben Carson!", and some nonsense about the democratic being all old white people.

I never said Republicans were racist, I said that being upset because people are voting based on race or gender are exactly what republicans do, with religion thrown in the mix.


Please spare me. What you said was a poorly veiled charge of racism. At least own up to it.
RE: At what point  
steve in ky : 8/6/2015 7:53 pm : link
In comment 12405657 Sgrcts said:
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did I say anyone was racist or any party was racist?

I pointed out that criticizing anyone for voting due to gender or race is ironic since most of the Republican base votes for the race, gender and religion that matches theres.

Bufords response was "But Ben Carson!", and some nonsense about the democratic being all old white people.

I never said Republicans were racist, I said that being upset because people are voting based on race or gender are exactly what republicans do, with religion thrown in the mix.


There are all kinds of groups that vote based largely on something personal to them on both sides of the isle. It is silly and pointless for either side to point fingers or complain about it.
Yeah Steve can't fault Black people when they got the  
Headhunter : 8/6/2015 8:02 pm : link
Right to Vote to vote en made for the party of Lincoln who freed them. I guess that was an example of a personal reason
RE: RE: At what point  
Sgrcts : 8/6/2015 8:02 pm : link
In comment 12405664 steve in ky said:
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In comment 12405657 Sgrcts said:


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did I say anyone was racist or any party was racist?

I pointed out that criticizing anyone for voting due to gender or race is ironic since most of the Republican base votes for the race, gender and religion that matches theres.

Bufords response was "But Ben Carson!", and some nonsense about the democratic being all old white people.

I never said Republicans were racist, I said that being upset because people are voting based on race or gender are exactly what republicans do, with religion thrown in the mix.



There are all kinds of groups that vote based largely on something personal to them on both sides of the isle. It is silly and pointless for either side to point fingers or complain about it.


Which is precisely my point.
En masse  
Headhunter : 8/6/2015 8:03 pm : link
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RE: RE: At what point  
Sgrcts : 8/6/2015 8:03 pm : link
In comment 12405663 buford said:
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In comment 12405657 Sgrcts said:


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did I say anyone was racist or any party was racist?

I pointed out that criticizing anyone for voting due to gender or race is ironic since most of the Republican base votes for the race, gender and religion that matches theres.

Bufords response was "But Ben Carson!", and some nonsense about the democratic being all old white people.

I never said Republicans were racist, I said that being upset because people are voting based on race or gender are exactly what republicans do, with religion thrown in the mix.



Please spare me. What you said was a poorly veiled charge of racism. At least own up to it.


There is nothing veiled about anything I say. For example, you, at best, are a moron.
Please though Buford  
Sgrcts : 8/6/2015 8:04 pm : link
Tell me more about how I'm ignoring the mass voting for black republicans.
So it begins...  
Anakim : 8/6/2015 8:57 pm : link
Not like I'm gonna vote for any of these guys, but should be a fun debate
WTF Fox?  
Giants2012 : 8/6/2015 8:58 pm : link
Is this amateur hour?
Fox News  
Deej : 8/6/2015 9:04 pm : link
starts by blackmailing Trump. Noice!
What the fuck?  
Anakim : 8/6/2015 9:05 pm : link
Is Trump serious?
That was a stupid question  
buford : 8/6/2015 9:06 pm : link
but I guess it got the answer they wanted.
Haha  
UConn4523 : 8/6/2015 9:06 pm : link
this is hysterically awful
I think the moderator should ask the same question  
Deej : 8/6/2015 9:06 pm : link
to Trump 5 or 6 more times. Just to make sure.
Basically, Kelly just asked Ben Carson why the fuck he's here  
Anakim : 8/6/2015 9:08 pm : link
.
Marco Rubio:  
Deej : 8/6/2015 9:08 pm : link
HRC has the best resume of anyone running for president.
How did Rubio owe a 100K 4 years ago?  
Anakim : 8/6/2015 9:09 pm : link
How old is this dude? Haha
RE: Marco Rubio:  
buford : 8/6/2015 9:09 pm : link
In comment 12405784 Deej said:
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HRC has the best resume of anyone running for president.


I don't think he meant it as a compliment
I was actually hoping they'd all say no to that question,  
Mad Mike : 8/6/2015 9:10 pm : link
and the rest of them would have said they couldn't, and wouldn't, support Trump if he won the nom. I'd respect them for it,
Jeb Bush's answer  
Deej : 8/6/2015 9:10 pm : link
was very strong. Rubio's too.
LOL  
buford : 8/6/2015 9:11 pm : link
Trump
This is setting the GOP back even more years.  
Mr. Bungle : 8/6/2015 9:12 pm : link
The audience sounds like a Jerry Springer audience.
Wow...  
Anakim : 8/6/2015 9:12 pm : link
You can't say Trump doesn't have balls, but wow...to think this guy has a chance to be the leader of the free world...
It's evident  
Bill in Del : 8/6/2015 9:13 pm : link
This is a trump bashing. But he can handle it
Trump:  
Deej : 8/6/2015 9:13 pm : link
I call women fat because America is a bunch of losers. And Megyn, you're a cunt too.
It's basically  
buford : 8/6/2015 9:13 pm : link
baiting each candidate to get them to react.
RE: Trump:  
buford : 8/6/2015 9:14 pm : link
In comment 12405802 Deej said:
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I call women fat because America is a bunch of losers. And Megyn, you're a cunt too.


Well, he's got Brett's vote.
Christie  
Deej : 8/6/2015 9:16 pm : link
making a lot of excuses.
What. The. Fuck.?  
Deej : 8/6/2015 9:17 pm : link
Everyone gets a hard question, and Walker gets: arent you super conservative on abortion?
This is awesome.  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 8/6/2015 9:18 pm : link
I'm just smiling as a liberal.
What's the Fifth Amendment, Huckabee?  
Anakim : 8/6/2015 9:18 pm : link
Praytell
This thread is funny  
Bill L : 8/6/2015 9:19 pm : link
All dens bashing people, well, just because
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