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FatMan in Charlotte : 7/27/2015 10:08 pm
This past weekend I was in Boston for the first time since the Boston Marathon and little did I realize that my hotel at Copley Place was about two blocks from the bombing location.

As I was doing research trying to figure out exactly where the bombs went off, I came across at least 3 sites that call the bombing a hoax, replete with calls of actors playing the parts of the bombed.

All I can think is - What the fuck? I could see possibly if somebody was trying to theorize that it wasn't the Tsarnev brothers who did the act, but I really didn't think I'd see people claiming the act itslef was staged. Were people with bloody stumps hanging out in the alleys waiting to pop out? I mean, what the holy hell do people have go on in their brains to think something like that was faked?
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I think one thing I learned over time  
dep026 : 7/27/2015 10:10 pm : link
the more you travel, the more people you meet - the more you realize that there are a lot of dumb fucks in this world.
The night of that bombing was one of the wildest nights ever on BBI  
BlueHurricane : 7/27/2015 10:13 pm : link
Some of us were up all night listening to scanners online as the cops chased the brothers and posting here. It was unreal hearing it play out in real time and literally hearing shots firing in city streets.

If any of those whack jobs had heard that night they would know it was far from staged. It was as intense as anything I have ever experienced.
Too many idiots  
napoleon : 7/27/2015 10:14 pm : link
The same idiots who think a missile hit the pentagon and not a hijacked plane. And an Israeli missile at that.
RE: The night of that bombing was one of the wildest nights ever on BBI  
BigBlue in Keys : 7/27/2015 10:24 pm : link
In comment 12388265 BlueHurricane said:
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Some of us were up all night listening to scanners online as the cops chased the brothers and posting here. It was unreal hearing it play out in real time and literally hearing shots firing in city streets.

If any of those whack jobs had heard that night they would know it was far from staged. It was as intense as anything I have ever experienced.


That was unreal. The links and info people were posting were so far ahead of anything on tv. Listening to the scanners was nuts. Gun fire and bombs being tossed. So much information and misinformation. What I found interesting at the time were all of the normal calls the police deal with happening at the same time. I don't know what would comple someone to actively deny such an event happened.
They did the same shit for Sandy Hook...  
Dunedin81 : 7/27/2015 10:26 pm : link
Pretending that actors played the grieving parents. Fuck those people.
the bright side  
WeatherMan : 7/27/2015 10:44 pm : link
is that the people espousing these nutjob theories on known events are self-identifying themselves as idiots not worth spending time on. For instance, say Chemtrails in a manner even resembling serious and you get put in the same classification from me as hardcore Eagles fans and folks with large facial tattoos, there's just no dealing with that level of stupid.
It's a coping mechanism  
Rob in CT/NYC : 7/27/2015 11:01 pm : link
The world is a big, scary, chaotic place - isn't it much neater that the Bilderberger's control the world, rather than no one?

Plus, there is the comfort that comes from having "figured it all out" and getting to look down at the "sheeple"

The U.S is bad (and feels like it's getting worse) - but try on Russia, or Egypt...

All are highly offensive, not only for obvious reasons (Sandy Hook), but because they implicitly impugn the character of hundreds of decent people who are apparently more than happy to lie about missiles hitting airliners, FEMA camps, and whatever else the government is covering up.
RE: the bright side  
SirSirob : 7/27/2015 11:03 pm : link
In comment 12388293 WeatherMan said:
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is that the people espousing these nutjob theories on known events are self-identifying themselves as idiots not worth spending time on. For instance, say Chemtrails in a manner even resembling serious and you get put in the same classification from me as hardcore Eagles fans and folks with large facial tattoos, there's just no dealing with that level of stupid.


Chemtrail people are the worst. They've never heard of condensation before
If you find yourself in a room  
Rob in CT/NYC : 7/27/2015 11:07 pm : link
With 25 people, look around.

It's likely that 1 of them believes lizard people rule the world, and 3 of them believe that the CIA introduced crack cocaine into the inner cities.
RE: If you find yourself in a room  
dep026 : 7/27/2015 11:08 pm : link
In comment 12388311 Rob in CT/NYC said:
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With 25 people, look around.

It's likely that 1 of them believes lizard people rule the world, and 3 of them believe that the CIA introduced crack cocaine into the inner cities.


And nearly half would think Trump would be a capable POTUS.
Hey Dep, well more than half believed ....  
Crispino : 7/27/2015 11:17 pm : link
that Barack Obama was going magically solve all of the world's problems. Remember the mantra after he was elected? "It's a new day!"
Uh, not so much.
I don't think  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 7/27/2015 11:35 pm : link
I've ever been more offended on this site than the God/religion thread where the Sandy Hook Truther came here to talk about God.

With all due respect to those who lost loved ones in 9/11 and at the Boston Marathon, but I think "Sandy Hook was fake" trumps both of those conspiracy theories as the most disgusting. It was just disgusting on so many different levels, especially since the real reason for the truthers (gun rights etc.) was so easy to pick up on. I think I'd punch someone if they told me Sandy Hook was fake.
....  
Route 9 in LEH : 7/27/2015 11:44 pm : link
People become enthusiastic about thrilling experiences even if it means drawing up outlandish conclusions (conspiracies) shit in their own heads?

Do aliens count?
Short answer is yes  
pjcas18 : 7/28/2015 12:24 am : link
they're every where. Rob is partially right, some times things happen that are so inexplicable people cling to any explanation that suggests how the act can happen without just believing their fellow human beings are evil enough to perpetrate these acts.

the media doesn't help.

I used to buy my wing sauce from a small business in Winchester, VA. Not a huge deal, I found it from a friend liked it, bought it online, spent a couple hundred dollars per year.

Over the years I became friends with the guy who owned the company, Bills fan, smart guy thought he was a good football fan and made great wing sauce.

then I began learning more about him. he's a 9-11 truther, building 7 could not have gone down any way other than government controlled implosion.

sandy hook hoaxer - FBI reports had 0 murders in Newtown, CT, so it must have been a false flag meant to further the gun control agenda.

Boston marathon was a false flag - NBC made the mistake of publishing a photo with the body parts and blood airbrushed out of the attach scene near the finish line - it's all the whack jobs need to believe it's a hoax.

he was also a holocaust denier - said based on the numbers reported and the camps reported there was no way they could have killed that many people in that period of time logistically.

moon landing - hoax.

and there's more, so I did some research and there are literally thousands of people like him that cling to holes, reporting inaccuracies, or theories and not facts to claims the media reports are not true and only the previously quoted "sheeple" believe them.

so I don't buy wing sauce or even interact with him any more. it's so tiring. everything is a government agenda.

I think i'd qualify it as a sickness (in my non-medical opinion) psychological at least.
I think "dumb fucks"  
ZogZerg : 7/28/2015 6:55 am : link
sums it up.
lots of people think  
sundayatone : 7/28/2015 7:27 am : link
bush invaded iraq only for the oil,oh,wait.
Conspiracy theorey really isn't much different than religion  
WideRight : 7/28/2015 7:54 am : link
Promoting a set of unfounded beliefs that fly in the face of fact. The reasoning behind the beliefs - wether one wants to be a conformist or non-conformist - differs.
Wideright  
weeg in the bronx : 7/28/2015 7:57 am : link
I think you miss the point of religon.
RE: lots of people think  
Big Al : 7/28/2015 7:58 am : link
In comment 12388488 sundayatone said:
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bush invaded iraq only for the oil,oh,wait.
Well we do know Bush had pre knowledge of 9/11.
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BrettNYG10 : 7/28/2015 7:59 am : link
I've seen them the last handful of times I was near the WTC in the afternoon.

And I agree with Osi, the Sandy Hook truthers are the worst.
RE: RE: lots of people think  
sundayatone : 7/28/2015 8:34 am : link
In comment 12388515 Big Al said:
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In comment 12388488 sundayatone said:


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bush invaded iraq only for the oil,oh,wait.



maybe not him,but the shadow govt?

Well we do know Bush had pre knowledge of 9/11.




he did not,but the shadow govt?
RE: RE: RE: lots of people think  
Dunedin81 : 7/28/2015 8:35 am : link
In comment 12388563 sundayatone said:
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In comment 12388515 Big Al said:


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In comment 12388488 sundayatone said:


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bush invaded iraq only for the oil,oh,wait.



maybe not him,but the shadow govt?

Well we do know Bush had pre knowledge of 9/11.





he did not,but the shadow govt?


Exhibit A, ladies and gentlemen
RE: RE: lots of people think  
Bill L : 7/28/2015 8:37 am : link
In comment 12388515 Big Al said:
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In comment 12388488 sundayatone said:


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bush invaded iraq only for the oil,oh,wait.

Well we do know Bush had pre knowledge of 9/11.
And the Katrina a-holes.
Shadow Governments..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/28/2015 8:39 am : link
must be awesome! Being able to make decisions and have puppets carry them out? I bet they coordinated 9/11, Sandy Hook and produced Wag the Dog all behind walls lined with fine Corinthian Leather.
I think if you list enough of these conspiracy craps  
Bill L : 7/28/2015 8:40 am : link
you will find someone everywhere, even among outwardly normal people, who believe in some of it.

"Vast right wing conspiracy"...and, go!
RE: Shadow Governments..  
Bill L : 7/28/2015 8:41 am : link
In comment 12388578 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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must be awesome! Being able to make decisions and have puppets carry them out? I bet they coordinated 9/11, Sandy Hook and produced Wag the Dog all behind walls lined with fine Corinthian Leather.

Bah, all you need for a coup d'etat is one good eclipse.
Planting..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 7/28/2015 8:41 am : link
Jihadi John in ISIS!
Yes. I recall that Chipper Jones  
TheBigBlueOne : 7/28/2015 8:46 am : link
had made a "tweet" about Sandy Hook being a hoax. There are fuckos who look at the pictures of the Boston bombings, see a father lifting up his now one-legged 4 year old daughter and think, "actors!" Losers who think the dead passengers from 9/11 are actually "in hiding."

I miss the days where the only conspiracies were JFK and the grassy knoll, and Elvis is still alive and pumping gas in a Tennessee gas station.
there are conceivable conspiracy theories  
fkap : 7/28/2015 8:48 am : link
and there are tin foil varieties.

JFK: whether or not you believe the hail of bullets or lone gunman, there's at least a shred of credibility for either.

Boston Bombing: live TV coverage and massive staged mayhem simply don't mix. Never say never, so to be charitable, I'd say a <1% chance of it being a conspiracy (in the wingnut sense of the word. technically, I think it was a conspiracy because more than one person was involved)
Short answer is YES they are everywhere.  
Watson : 7/28/2015 8:52 am : link
There is alot of books on this subject as well as other literature; Scientific American has had series of articles (full story not free).

Basic Reasons

People don't like randomness; need to feel in control.

Explanation does not match preconceived ideas or beliefs. Why different groups of people will believe in different conspiracies.

People who believe in a conspiracy theory believe in more than one; Cognitive thinking, personality some paranoid or schizophrenic type traits.

Higher economic status & education less likely to believe, but still some pretty smart people believing in some dumb things.

Some make the case internet has helped spread.


There are rich, well educated conspiracists too...  
Dunedin81 : 7/28/2015 9:07 am : link
The anti-vaxxers who believe government and Big Pharma are the sole reasons we vaccinate kids, the anti-GMO folks (with some exceptions). And plenty of people who believe one conspiracy think the others are despicable nonsense.
RE: There are rich, well educated conspiracists too...  
Bill L : 7/28/2015 9:26 am : link
In comment 12388622 Dunedin81 said:
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The anti-vaxxers who believe government and Big Pharma are the sole reasons we vaccinate kids, the anti-GMO folks (with some exceptions). And plenty of people who believe one conspiracy think the others are despicable nonsense.


I give the last a pass. Rich and smart people are often geeks. SO when a playboy bunny makes an authoritative statement with an even more authoritative jiggle of the boob, you gotta listen.
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arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 9:33 am : link
I know a few guys who are big time conspiracy theorists. They think everything is some sort of hoax set up by the Government. It's brutal. Any time some sort of tragedy happens they're clinging onto these crazy theories that it was all a set up. They'll find like two random coincidences and be like "SEE!!"
I'm waiting for the Unified Theory of Conspiracy  
WideRight : 7/28/2015 9:34 am : link
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RE: lots of people think  
River Mike : 7/28/2015 9:41 am : link
In comment 12388488 sundayatone said:
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bush invaded iraq only for the oil,oh,wait.


Yes and it showed what complete idiots they were when we made no attempt at all to get their oil and still don't. But nothing will persuade stupid.
the people I know tend to believe in all of them  
pjcas18 : 7/28/2015 9:43 am : link
one of them posted this on facebook yesterday. climate change = hoax, fluoride = hoax, and forget about stuff like benghazi. that's treason.

by 2050 this is the map of the USA due to climate change (which he scoffs at too as a left wing conspiracy since the polar ice caps are growing).



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According to a Business Insider video, researchers have shown that last year, west Antartic glaciers retreated past the point of no return, making the ice melt “unstoppable.”

Different research indicates that the Artic may experience ice-free summers by 2050. In other words, if all the Earth’s ice melts, the ocean would rise about 216 feet. This significant rise in water levels would have a major impact on all countries bordering an ocean, and they’d lose a huge amount of land if this scary scenario unfolds.

The video focuses on what the U.S. will look like when Earth’s entire polar ice cap melts, revealing that the entire eastern seaboard, including the entire state of Florida, would be lost to the Atlantic Ocean. The same goes for major cities like Houston and New Orleans, as the Gulf of Mexico would further expand inland. Other researchers have said that up to 5,200 square miles of the Mississippi delta would disappear over the course of 85 years.


Would beachfront property in Kentucky be a good investment now?  
Bill L : 7/28/2015 9:54 am : link
Or should I wait a couple years?
Yes FatMan  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/28/2015 9:56 am : link
There Are Conspiracy Theorist Everywhere!
RE: Would beachfront property in Kentucky be a good investment now?  
pjcas18 : 7/28/2015 9:58 am : link
In comment 12388721 Bill L said:
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Or should I wait a couple years?


According to the image it would be a better investment than Florida.
Magical Thinking  
JonC : 7/28/2015 10:00 am : link
is easier than using facts. Denial is also one of the more powerful and common psychological behaviors, I've consistently read.
RE: RE: Would beachfront property in Kentucky be a good investment now?  
Bill L : 7/28/2015 10:01 am : link
In comment 12388732 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 12388721 Bill L said:


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Or should I wait a couple years?



According to the image it would be a better investment than Florida.
Well, the nice thing about Florida is if the polar caps still have enough ice for floes to float there, it's convenient for the old people. We could go all Eskimo.
RE: Magical Thinking  
Bill L : 7/28/2015 10:03 am : link
In comment 12388734 JonC said:
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is easier than using facts. Denial is also one of the more powerful and common psychological behaviors, I've consistently read.


I think it also goes back to politics and psychology of politics. We filter our support or disdain for one party or the other and ascribe the best or worst motives. Many conspiracies seem to have a political opponent or policy as the villain.
RE: RE: Magical Thinking  
Big Al : 7/28/2015 10:11 am : link
In comment 12388745 Bill L said:
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In comment 12388734 JonC said:


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is easier than using facts. Denial is also one of the more powerful and common psychological behaviors, I've consistently read.



I think it also goes back to politics and psychology of politics. We filter our support or disdain for one party or the other and ascribe the best or worst motives. Many conspiracies seem to have a political opponent or policy as the villain.
Remember I knew Bush was involved in 9/11 because of the expression on his face when he was told in that classroom in Florida. One of the most bizarre things ever said here.
RE: RE: RE: Magical Thinking  
RC02XX : 7/28/2015 10:14 am : link
In comment 12388763 Big Al said:
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Remember I knew Bush was involved in 9/11 because of the expression on his face when he was told in that classroom in Florida. One of the most bizarre things ever said here.


Coincidentally...photos post 9/11 attacks were released recently. You can obviously see the evil mastermind of that administration at work, or at least that's what I've been told.
Link - ( New Window )
Pjcas your observation is true according to some studies.  
Watson : 7/28/2015 10:15 am : link
A British study found people who believe in conspiracy theories generally believe in more than one and often believe in ones that are contradictory.
RE: Pjcas your observation is true according to some studies.  
Big Al : 7/28/2015 10:28 am : link
In comment 12388774 Watson said:
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A British study found people who believe in conspiracy theories generally believe in more than one and often believe in ones that are contradictory.
Sort of like certain groups who question whether there was a Holocaust and in the next breath say we need to finish the job.
RE: RE: lots of people think  
sundayatone : 7/28/2015 10:37 am : link
In comment 12388682 River Mike said:
[quote] In comment 12388488 sundayatone said:


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bush invaded iraq only for the oil,oh,wait.



Yes and it showed what complete idiots they were when we made no attempt at all to get their oil and still don't. But nothing will persuade stupid. [/quote


to keep the oil flowing and being priced in dollars. but freedom and wmds really turned out so well.
And the thread  
Bill L : 7/28/2015 10:38 am : link
is proven.
Here's my conspiracy theory...  
RC02XX : 7/28/2015 10:41 am : link
sundayatone is a government plant to find out who agrees with him so that the men in black can come and grab you since you know too much
there's two sides  
oghwga : 7/28/2015 10:42 am : link
there's those that think that everything is a conspiracy and those that think everything is on the up and up.

I don't believe any conspiracy is possible when more than a few people have to keep their mouth shut but I don't instantly suspect someone who asks reasonable questions either.
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