Jadeveon Clowney to start camp on Texans' PUP list

this stuff up...

Didn't help him at all.

That's because he knew the $ was already in the bank.

He can thank BSPN for replaying "The Hit" 49,516 times where he was UNBLOCKED and made a play.

Completely UNBLOCKED. Like............no one touched him. When you leave the best player on the other team unblocked and run to his side, that usually results in a negative play for the team that didn't block him.

Just sayin'.

Is this a joke thread?

From NFL.com:

"Houston Texans team physician Dr. Walt Lowe recently raved that Jadeveon Clowney "looks spectacular" in his return from microfracture knee surgery."

Depends on your personal interpretation of spectacular, I guess.

And it's not his choice on if he starts the season on PUP. There a link that says he's not doing his rehab resulting in this situation. Why not just post u hate the guy which is what this is about. Not about whether he will be a bust or not. That's fine w me but this situation doesn't prove he's ebony lazy or a bust yet. You hope he is. Just say that. You will feel better. Not sure why a Giant fan would care much either but vent away. And more fiber.

Can't hurt

And, I would give him the benefit of the doubt on returning slowly. Let's see how this season goes. On the other hand, what JPP is doing is truly a pathetic money grab.

Why wouldn't a team put a prized player coming back from microfrature surgery on the PUP list?

You seem pretty angry at him.

And starting camp on PUP doesn't mean much. He can come off at any time.

In comment 12388463 BlueGuy said:

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That's because he knew the $ was already in the bank. He can thank BSPN for replaying "The Hit" 49,516 times where he was UNBLOCKED and made a play. Completely UNBLOCKED. Like............no one touched him. When you leave the best player on the other team unblocked and run to his side, that usually results in a negative play for the team that didn't block him. Just sayin'.

Besides "the hit", Taylor Lewan was neck and neck with him all game.

Can't pass on OBJ but i loved Lewan since that game.

You're either racist, a huge loser or this guy fucked your mother.

Get off his dick.

He got hurt. Hopefully he'll come back and be a beast. The dude has the tools to be a generational talent, and I hope we get to see it.

and that's saying a lot

instead of ESPN. How clever!

Poor Texans. Yikes.

In comment 12388540 Giants2012 said:

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In comment 12388463 BlueGuy said: Quote: That's because he knew the $ was already in the bank. He can thank BSPN for replaying "The Hit" 49,516 times where he was UNBLOCKED and made a play. Completely UNBLOCKED. Like............no one touched him. When you leave the best player on the other team unblocked and run to his side, that usually results in a negative play for the team that didn't block him. Just sayin'. Besides "the hit", Taylor Lewan was neck and neck with him all game. Can't pass on OBJ but i loved Lewan since that game.

No one seems to remember the play before "the hit" when Michigan received a very generous spot for the first down; emotion certainly played a role in getting Clowney amped up for that hit.

I don't see Clowney as a bust, being a bust means you play and you suck, being injured doesn't make you a bust.

Labeling him a bust is premature. There are questions about work ethic, health and passion for the game he has to answer. His physical gifts are unquestioned.

I'd have to say I doubt he lives up to the hype but probably has a decent career.

ok

..."Who on God's green Earth thought this shtrootz would be an NFL anything?"

Guy was the consensus 1 pick in the country in the NFL draft. So I guress the answer to this is "Everyone"

Better question would be be "Who on God's green Earth didn't think this shtrootz would be an NFL anything?"

What the fuck is a "shtrootz" anyway?

In comment 12388922 Sonic Youth said:

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He got hurt. Hopefully he'll come back and be a beast. The dude has the tools to be a generational talent, and I hope we get to see it.

He's not a bust yet, but there's a number of 1st round picks who've had the bust label and injuries were a direct result. Curts Enis and Ki-Jana Carter, for instance. Andre Wadsworth another.

In comment 12388466 Mason said:

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Is this a joke thread?

It's a complete joke.microfracture surgery is one of the most difficult surgeries to come back from in all of sports.He also had an injury his senior year at South Carolina so that should dispel the notion that he doesn't wanna play.I would hate the thread maker of this topic to work for any major publications.We have enough frank Isola's as it is already.




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of a kid judged by his on-field play with little regard to his background.

Clowney's from Rock Hill - 10 minutes from where I live. He was a pee-wee legend who got local attention in 5th grade. But his warts started showing in HS. First off, his academic record was horrendous. He needed a lot of help (some even think illegally) just to get qualifying scores to get into college and get his HS diploma. He also had a group of protectors who looked at him as an investment instead of promoting his best interests.

In college, he had TWO people assigned to him to keep him in line and even then, he found some trouble. His academic record continued to be horrendous and his attitude started getting worse and worse - just look at his wanting to sit out to avoid injury.

The people I know who worked directly with him said Clowney didn't have the drive to make it in the NFL and that his sheer talent couldn't make up for the level playing field, plus, they worried about the continued guidance he was getting from his close circle.

I know checking backgrounds is part of the scouting process, but very little was made of Clowney's past, even though down here it was pretty well known.

The NFL is a crap business filled with crap people exploiting stupid kids for as little money as they can for as long as they can and then dumping them like bad meat when they lose their value. This isn't baseball or basketball or even hockey where these guys get rich and setup for life if they're good players. These guys are stuck with one way contracts and exposing themselves to life altering injury. No one forces them to play football but if they're going to play the number #1 priority should be getting paid. Especially since they play multi billion dollar minor league football for free. It amazes me what idiots football fans are. Willing to pay billionaire "classy" owners PSL's but hating on Victor Cruz who won the Giants a Super Bowl when he had to fight for his money. Good thing he got paid when he did.

isn't about choir boys.As much as we would love to act as such. one of the most beloved players of all time was not a choir boy(Our #56).A lot of players have had trouble up to and going through the first part of their professional careers (Dez Bryant,Chris Carter,Warren Sapp,Ray Lewis, Aldon Smith, Randy Moss, Justin Houston, Dan Marino) to then "right the ship" and hit their stride in terms of being a professional.To shun a person immediately after the first sign of undesired actions is a near sighted way of handling things.

I was one of the few here who didn't see "star" in Clowney. Many here watch a ton more football than myself however, my observations were that "the hit" was unblocked, and that there were too many times where, to my eyes, he appeared ordinary.

to a point, very rarely can players get by with only talent if their work ethic is questionable. They almost need to have such a superior skill set that they can not improve it and still get by. Not sure Clowney is that superior to do that.