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NFT: Padres v Mets Tuesday 7/28 @ 7:19

sphinx : 7/28/2015 3:15 pm
San Diego Padres & #8207;@Padres 4m4 minutes ago
First game of the road trip kicks off this afternoon as James Shields & the Padres take on the Mets. Today's lineup:


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sphinx : 7/28/2015 3:17 pm : link
Adam Rubin
Jon Niese supposed to be back today too. So two roster moves expected.

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sphinx : 7/28/2015 3:31 pm : link

Tuesday #Mets vs. #Padres:

Granderson - RF
Tejada - SS
Murphy - 2B
Duda - 1B
Uribe - 3B
Conforto - LF
Nieuwenhuis - CF
Plawecki - C
Noah

Adam Rubin
Wilmer Flores has now sat all three days since the trade with Braves.


kemp  
sshin05 : 7/28/2015 3:34 pm : link
has been red hot for the month of July. Probably the only player that scares you.
kemp  
sshin05 : 7/28/2015 3:36 pm : link
had one homerun for first two months. Then hit 10 in the last two. OPSing over 1000 for July.
I think Conforto should be batting  
chris r : 7/28/2015 3:40 pm : link
2nd except vs tough lefties.
pretty much  
sshin05 : 7/28/2015 3:43 pm : link
the same lineup, just two guys are swapped.
Wilmer Flores  
NYG27 : 7/28/2015 3:43 pm : link
It's a shame that Flores is not getting some playing time either at 2B/3B since the trade (I know, only been 3 games).

I though after a down May/June, Flores was having a very solid July and was batting over .290 this month.

If he doesn't mix into the plan post trade, I'd rather have him at AAA getting consistent ABs there.
Re: flores  
PhiPsi125 : 7/28/2015 3:53 pm : link
This was expected. The dude needed to hit .300 to force TC to play him. It is unfortunate since he was having a good July.

At this point either trade him or send him down to build his trading value. He's always been TCs whipping boy so just get him out of here. I still believe he'll be a very good player, but it just won't be with the mets.
Nimmo  
DanMetroMan : 7/28/2015 3:55 pm : link
to AAA, AA oddly playing with a 2 man bench
He's out of options - I think he's a benchguy until an injury presents  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 3:57 pm : link
an opportunity. Which could happen if Wright encounters a longer term setback or if 2B is an open competition in ST next year. Doubt he has much trade value, but if he's the final piece of a deal for a bigger player so be it. I believe in his bat and wish he would have gotten a better chance at locking down a position (2B) without being moved around, but to be fair he did get a full half season playing every day and outside of an early power surge he just did not hit enough.
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arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 3:58 pm : link
I'm not surprised. I knew Flores was going to the bench if Wright came back or we acquired a 3B. No way he was going back to SS.
Make it 3  
DanMetroMan : 7/28/2015 4:01 pm : link
Newest member of the B-Mets http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=belnom001vin #Mets
RE: Make it 3  
sphinx : 7/28/2015 4:03 pm : link
In comment 12389566 DanMetroMan said:
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Newest member of the B-Mets http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=belnom001vin #Mets

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he def wasn't going back to starting SS with Tejada hitting better  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 4:04 pm : link
it wouldn't shock me if Tejada slumps and he gets another chance at some point, but he needs to start producing with the bat, his current line simply doesn't cut it (358 PA's - .249 / .281 / .379 - 85 wRC+).

24 XBH's isn't bad and I guess devil's advocate argument is that he was surrounded by quite possibly the worst lineup this team has ever rolled out for the past couple months.
Nats about to get Papelbon  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 4:05 pm : link
Barry Svrluga ‏@barrysvrluga 3m3 minutes ago
Source: Deal to bring Jonathan Papelbon to Nationals is nearing completion.
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sphinx : 7/28/2015 4:06 pm : link
Adam Rubin
Terry Collins on Juan Lagares sitting: "Right now Nieuwey is getting it done." #mets

3rd  
sshin05 : 7/28/2015 4:07 pm : link
straight game without Lagares starting too.
RE: .  
PhiPsi125 : 7/28/2015 4:07 pm : link
In comment 12389559 arcarsenal said:
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I'm not surprised. I knew Flores was going to the bench if Wright came back or we acquired a 3B. No way he was going back to SS.
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Neither am I. I know that Tejada is playing well but we still know what he is. And I'm pissed that this lazy sob has an eternal "get out of jail free" card with this org while one of the hardest working guys in Flores gets the shaft. I know, I know...he could have taken the job and ran with it. But I will never like that toad-faced f@cker Tejada and will wait for the clock to strike 12 with him. He'll turn back into a pumpkin sooner or later.
jon morsi  
Rflairr : 7/28/2015 4:07 pm : link
Important: #Tigers have HUGE incentive to trade Yoenis Cespedes because he's ineligible for qualifying offer after season.
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sphinx : 7/28/2015 4:08 pm : link
Adam Rubin
Jeurys Familia role unchanged. Clippard might close if Familia has worked three straight days. Plan to mix and match as far as setup men.

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sphinx : 7/28/2015 4:09 pm : link
Adam Rubin
Terry Colins said David Wright had a very positive day of baseball activity. Hope to get into games after the next 7-8 days.

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sphinx : 7/28/2015 4:10 pm : link
Adam Rubin
Once Mets depart for road trip after Nats weekend series, Terry Collins expects David Wright to go to St. Lucie to begin games.

If  
DanMetroMan : 7/28/2015 4:10 pm : link
Cespedes really insists he won't play RF I can't see the Mets going after him.
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DanMetroMan : 7/28/2015 4:12 pm : link
Anthony DiComo ‏@AnthonyDiComo 13s13 seconds ago
Sounds like Travis d'Arnaud could and probably will return to the #Mets this weekend against the Nationals.
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sphinx : 7/28/2015 4:15 pm : link
Adam Rubin
Terry Collins believes the addition of Tyler Clippard should end the multi-inning save chances for Jeurys Familia.

Terry Colins expects Travis d'Arnaud will catch today & tomorrow with Binghamton. With Mets playing noon Thursday, looks like Friday active.


I get not liking Tejada. I don't either.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/28/2015 4:15 pm : link
But Wilmer didn't help his own case when finally given the chance. Maybe he pans out as part of a better lineup with more protection.
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sphinx : 7/28/2015 4:16 pm : link
Adam Rubin
Mets haven't announced roster moves yet, but plan for 2 pregame.

RE: ???  
DanMetroMan : 7/28/2015 4:18 pm : link
In comment 12389603 sphinx said:
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Adam Rubin
Mets haven't announced roster moves yet, but plan for 2 pregame.


Meaning demotions etc. not trades.
RE: I get not liking Tejada. I don't either.  
PhiPsi125 : 7/28/2015 4:18 pm : link
In comment 12389602 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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But Wilmer didn't help his own case when finally given the chance. Maybe he pans out as part of a better lineup with more protection.


I agree
Changes have meant that Cuddyer, Flores and Lagares are all out of  
Phil in Joisey : 7/28/2015 4:21 pm : link
the starting line-up. Sure helps cut down on the number of strikeouts on breaking balls out of the zone.
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arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 4:21 pm : link
I have to keep telling myself to expect nothing from DW and not to get excited about the possibility of his return.
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sphinx : 7/28/2015 4:31 pm : link
Anthony DiComo
David Wright on playing for the #Mets again this year: "Yeah. I don't think there's much of a question about that."

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arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 4:31 pm : link
Staahhhppppp. I don't even want to read that shit.
Sure  
DanMetroMan : 7/28/2015 4:33 pm : link
stinks of "well we only added Will Venable but Wright will be back by 9/1!"
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arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 4:34 pm : link
The timing is awfully convenient. Really hope that's not why.
It's not like Flores wasn't given a chance  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 4:37 pm : link
He had plenty of opportunity to take hold of a spot and didn't. Now he needs to stay prepared and come up with some big hits when called upon to pinch hit.
Nats  
sphinx : 7/28/2015 4:38 pm : link
Chelsea Janes
Zimmerman and Werth both in the Nationals lineup tonight. So is Rendon. Rendon and Werth play together for first time all year.

RE: It's not like Flores wasn't given a chance  
PhiPsi125 : 7/28/2015 4:44 pm : link
In comment 12389637 steve in ky said:
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He had plenty of opportunity to take hold of a spot and didn't. Now he needs to stay prepared and come up with some big hits when called upon to pinch hit.


I know. I clearly said that he had the opportunity to grab the position (and didn't) but he also had the shortest leash out of anybody. The disparity between Flores and Tejada isn't large and we're pretty much seeing Tejadas ceiling right now. We know what he is but, I agree, they weren't going to put Flores back at SS as long as Tejada is hitting higher than .180. I just dislike poor players that waste their opportunities only to get a million chances over hard workers that are most likely better. But that's my problem, not yours lol.
I'm still trying to think of the last Met position player  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 4:47 pm : link
that laid down a successful sac bunt? Help me out
I  
DanMetroMan : 7/28/2015 4:47 pm : link
think Flores is done as Mets SS. If he can't beat out Tejada hard to believe they go back to that well.
Tejada  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 4:48 pm : link
Was the last resort after they trotted out every option available to them at 3rd after Wright went down. It wasn't like the Mets were itching to get him back in there either. The reality is this season Flores was given much more of an opportunity than Tejada had but difference is that Tejada took more advantage of it when the opportunity came.
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DanMetroMan : 7/28/2015 4:48 pm : link
Byrd watchers (no not that kind fans of channel 35) Marlon Byrd absent from the Reds lineup tonight #Mets
With Cecchini knocking at the door  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 4:50 pm : link
next year, Wilmer bet make the most of his chances remaining
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arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 4:50 pm : link
I'm not even arguing that Flores SHOULD go back to SS. It's just that I said from the beginning that Tejada was going to be the SS regardless of who was at 3B. And that's exactly how it played out.
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Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 4:51 pm : link
In comment 12389581 PhiPsi125 said:
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I'm not surprised. I knew Flores was going to the bench if Wright came back or we acquired a 3B. No way he was going back to SS.

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Neither am I. I know that Tejada is playing well but we still know what he is. And I'm pissed that this lazy sob has an eternal "get out of jail free" card with this org while one of the hardest working guys in Flores gets the shaft. I know, I know...he could have taken the job and ran with it. But I will never like that toad-faced f@cker Tejada and will wait for the clock to strike 12 with him. He'll turn back into a pumpkin sooner or later.


#teamrollinsconvert?
RE: Tejada  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 5:01 pm : link
In comment 12389665 steve in ky said:
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Was the last resort after they trotted out every option available to them at 3rd after Wright went down. It wasn't like the Mets were itching to get him back in there either. The reality is this season Flores was given much more of an opportunity than Tejada had but difference is that Tejada took more advantage of it when the opportunity came.


This is pretty much how I feel too. They did everything but try to give Tejada another chance but every other option failed. And I can't criticize going with Tejada now that he's playing well. As long as he keeps hitting, I don't have a problem with it
Say  
DanMetroMan : 7/28/2015 5:02 pm : link
no to Venable!
Id rather roll  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 5:03 pm : link
with Kirk over Venable too. Parra is a different story.
Venable  
DanMetroMan : 7/28/2015 5:04 pm : link
no longer his the speed he once had, his OPS vs. righties is WORSE than Kirks and sucks in CF. I wouldn't give up anything for him. Waste of time.
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PhiPsi125 : 7/28/2015 5:11 pm : link
In comment 12389675 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 12389581 PhiPsi125 said:


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In comment 12389559 arcarsenal said:


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I'm not surprised. I knew Flores was going to the bench if Wright came back or we acquired a 3B. No way he was going back to SS.

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Neither am I. I know that Tejada is playing well but we still know what he is. And I'm pissed that this lazy sob has an eternal "get out of jail free" card with this org while one of the hardest working guys in Flores gets the shaft. I know, I know...he could have taken the job and ran with it. But I will never like that toad-faced f@cker Tejada and will wait for the clock to strike 12 with him. He'll turn back into a pumpkin sooner or later.



#teamrollinsconvert?


NEVER!!!
Papelbon  
DanMetroMan : 7/28/2015 5:12 pm : link
is an upgrade for Washington if he doesn't cause any problems. Nice addition.
Papelbon is an upgrade  
Torrag : 7/28/2015 5:13 pm : link
but he's beatable at this stage of his career.
RE: Papelbon is an upgrade  
DanMetroMan : 7/28/2015 5:15 pm : link
In comment 12389716 Torrag said:
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but he's beatable at this stage of his career.


He's better than people are giving him credit for. Somehow he's gone from "overrated" to underrated 2.82 FIP last 3 seasons, for comparisons sake Clippard 3.42
Pumped for this game  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 5:30 pm : link
Lot of good vibes sure to be surrounding this team right now.
Anything less than 2 out of 3  
Kevin999 : 7/28/2015 5:33 pm : link
will be a major disappointment in this series.
RE: RE: Papelbon is an upgrade  
Audible : 7/28/2015 5:44 pm : link
In comment 12389719 DanMetroMan said:
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He's better than people are giving him credit for. Somehow he's gone from "overrated" to underrated 2.82 FIP last 3 seasons, for comparisons sake Clippard 3.42


To be fair, Clippard has a fairly extensive history of outperforming his FIP. Career ERA- of 72 vs. FIP- of 93.

But I agree with the general point - Papelbon's reputation has fallen as the team around him has gotten progressively worse, but he's still a very effective reliever. Not one of the best relievers in baseball, but certainly an above-average one who would be a significant addition to any bullpen in baseball.
No one said he isn't a good pitcher and an upgrade  
Torrag : 7/28/2015 5:45 pm : link
He isn't the lockdown, lights out guy he was. He is beatable.
Closer  
sphinx : 7/28/2015 5:56 pm : link
Ken Rosenthal
Source: Under terms of trade agreement, if completed, Papelbon will close for #Nationals and be signed for 2016.

wow I'm pretty shocked, gets paid & powerplays his way to closing  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 5:57 pm : link
that can't be too thrilling for Nats players.
Everyone can do what they want with their pens  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 5:59 pm : link
All I know is I LOVE ours now. Just DFA A. Torres and Ill be thrilled.
This is a direct quote from Clippard on the Nats  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 6:05 pm : link
" we can catch those fuckers" my new favorite Met LGM!
Indians changing their lineup, #hugwatch forthcoming?  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 6:12 pm : link
paul hoynes ‏@hoynsie
Indians changing their lineup. Changes are coming. This time of year that could mean a trade or it might not.
Am I wrong or does this seem to be a terrible way to join new team?  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 6:13 pm : link
Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS
Papelbon will be a Nat. He's been told he will close, with drew storen demoted to set-up role despite brilliant season.
RE: Am I wrong or does this seem to be a terrible way to join new team?  
Giants2012 : 7/28/2015 6:16 pm : link
In comment 12389815 Eric on Li said:
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Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
Papelbon will be a Nat. He's been told he will close, with drew storen demoted to set-up role despite brilliant season.


What would you suggest?
Phils get Nick Pivetta  
dep026 : 7/28/2015 6:17 pm : link
AA pitcher. Anyone know anyhting about him?
Mejia just failed another test  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 6:18 pm : link
Mother fucker.
well, looks like we got Clippard just in time  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 6:18 pm : link
Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 37s38 seconds ago
Jenrry mejia gets 162 game drug ban. Failed another test.
Mejia is now banned  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 6:18 pm : link
for 162 games. Holy fucking shit.
What a damn moron  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 6:18 pm : link
I can't believe it.
..  
dep026 : 7/28/2015 6:18 pm : link
Jon Heyman
@JonHeymanCBS

Jenrry mejia gets 162 game drug ban. Failed another test.
RE: RE: Am I wrong or does this seem to be a terrible way to join new team?  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 6:19 pm : link
In comment 12389817 Giants2012 said:
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In comment 12389815 Eric on Li said:


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Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
Papelbon will be a Nat. He's been told he will close, with drew storen demoted to set-up role despite brilliant season.



What would you suggest?


If I were the Nats? If I was that desperate for Paplebon I would have paid his full option and told him the best man pitches.
I said trade Mejia the moment he came back  
Giants2012 : 7/28/2015 6:19 pm : link
NO, NO, NO said the cheerleaders

Well...  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 6:20 pm : link
there's your roster spot. A. Torres lives another day. Wow. How sad.
LOL..  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 6:21 pm : link
What a fucking moron.
Jenry, thank you for striking out Joc Pederson  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 6:22 pm : link
now get your shit out of Clippard's locker.
RE: RE: RE: Am I wrong or does this seem to be a terrible way to join new team?  
Giants2012 : 7/28/2015 6:23 pm : link
In comment 12389826 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 12389815 Eric on Li said:


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Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
Papelbon will be a Nat. He's been told he will close, with drew storen demoted to set-up role despite brilliant season.



What would you suggest?



If I were the Nats? If I was that desperate for Paplebon I would have paid his full option and told him the best man pitches.


Who says the Nats are desperate besides you? They obtained a veteran closer who has pitched in World Series with the Sox to shorten games to seven innings. This isn't indecisive Little League where anybody could pitch and any moment. You make a decision at the MLB level and that's what the Nats did. They did it the right way.
Meija Suspended  
Samiam : 7/28/2015 6:23 pm : link
ESPN radio just reported he failed another test.
IMO  
Giants2012 : 7/28/2015 6:24 pm : link
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Damn that back of the bullpen was just looking so  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 6:27 pm : link
damn filthy with Parnell, Clipart, Mejia, and Familia. Shit.

I guess the silver lining is he wasn't pitching in the playoffs anyway but man is this yet another blow.

And way to fuck over your teammates once again right when everything was coming together.
Storen has 29 saves, 0 losses, 1.7 ERA, 1.0 WHIP, 1.9 FIP  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 6:29 pm : link
Paplebon's numbers are all pretty similar or worse, just think it's kind of odd to outright demote a guy pitching on an all star level for a guy who isn't definitively better.
Basically this ->  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 6:31 pm : link
Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS
Nats bringing in papelbon is clubhouse risk. Putting aside pap's persona, demoting superb storen a 3rd time may not end well.
Haha  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 6:32 pm : link
Mejia now ineligible for NEXT YEARS postseason as well. Just cut him. What a disgrace.
Huh?  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 6:33 pm : link
Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN 5m5 minutes ago
David Wright may be in minor league games next week.
Storen also job his job after 2011  
Giants2012 : 7/28/2015 6:35 pm : link
I believe. Can't recall if he was injured or not.

Closers come and go IMO. If the move improves the team, so be it. It's like Storen has all this playoff experience or playoff success like Paps.
RE: Haha  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 6:35 pm : link
In comment 12389857 ZGiants98 said:
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Mejia now ineligible for NEXT YEARS postseason as well. Just cut him. What a disgrace.


Yeah he's done here. Biggest loss is him as a trade asset now or in offseason. Verrett, Robles, Goeddel, etc. have been good enough to make up his regular season innings and he was already ineligible for PS. I can't believe he's that dumb though. To get caught with the exact same stuff a 2nd time.
RE: Huh?  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 6:35 pm : link
In comment 12389860 ZGiants98 said:
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Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN 5m5 minutes ago
David Wright may be in minor league games next week.


Yeah, he's supposed to start playing with St. Lucie in about a week.
not like  
Giants2012 : 7/28/2015 6:35 pm : link
storen
Apparently  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 6:36 pm : link
MLB called the Mets yesterday(Monday) to let them know about the ban to Mejia so the Clippard deal was not reactionary. The trade was made before the news.
RE: RE: Huh?  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 6:37 pm : link
In comment 12389868 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 12389860 ZGiants98 said:


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Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN 5m5 minutes ago
David Wright may be in minor league games next week.



Yeah, he's supposed to start playing with St. Lucie in about a week.


I knew he was resuming baseball activities but playing in actual games in a week seems WAY earlier than we expected no? Either way. Great news.
We'll see how it goes..  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 6:38 pm : link
It's great news I just hope the timing isn't intentional (aka, "Wright is on the way back, another bat is no longer necessary")
Seems to me the Mets have been  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 6:42 pm : link
in talks with just about everyone. I don't think they were hanging their hats on a Wright return.

Id like another move but I don't know the context of whats being asked. I can't make Sandy pull blood from a stone. If everyone is still asking for the moon on some of these guys I trust Sandy would decide which is most prudent for the team at this time. Its pretty clear he's willing to part with some pretty substantial prospects so if something didn't materialize it probably wasn't worth it IMO.
Positive side to Mejia suspension is more $ saved  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 6:43 pm : link
double the orders for all remaining free shirt fridays.
I can't really just willfully "accept" nothing else.  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 6:45 pm : link
If the ask on Gomez, Bruce, Parra, Cespedes is just too high.. fine. Then absolute WORST case, go grab Marlon Byrd. I'd be slightly disappointed if that's the best we could do but it'd be better than nothing and it'd give us better depth in the OF after we just did the same for the IF.
RE: We'll see how it goes..  
SethFromAstoria : 7/28/2015 6:46 pm : link
In comment 12389877 arcarsenal said:
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It's great news I just hope the timing isn't intentional (aka, "Wright is on the way back, another bat is no longer necessary")


Wouldn't you logically assume that the team would need and want to know the status of wright and use that knowledge to alter and decide moves they may make? I mean why would they say he is coming back and then lie about that to appease some odd portion of the fanbase if they are unable to make a decision about player adds? I don't get it
Mejia  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 6:46 pm : link
He must have sucked without extra "help" because nobody would do that again so soon unless he felt he wouldn't be able to compete otherwise.
RE: I can't really just willfully  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 6:50 pm : link
In comment 12389894 arcarsenal said:
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If the ask on Gomez, Bruce, Parra, Cespedes is just too high.. fine. Then absolute WORST case, go grab Marlon Byrd. I'd be slightly disappointed if that's the best we could do but it'd be better than nothing and it'd give us better depth in the OF after we just did the same for the IF.


I sort of agree but we have sort of a log jam in CO now. That logic made perfect sense before Conforto was called up and Kelly Johnson was aquired(played pretty much CO with the Braves) Is Byrd even better than those two?? Im not sure.
The OF  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 6:51 pm : link
is Conforto, Kirk, and Granderson. The bench is Johnson, Lagares, and soon Cuddyer as well.

The only player that does't belong is possibly Kirk if you can upgrade CF but as far as depth and 4th and 5th options I think we are good.

Just the way I look at it now.
RE: RE: We'll see how it goes..  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 6:52 pm : link
In comment 12389898 SethFromAstoria said:
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In comment 12389877 arcarsenal said:


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It's great news I just hope the timing isn't intentional (aka, "Wright is on the way back, another bat is no longer necessary")



Wouldn't you logically assume that the team would need and want to know the status of wright and use that knowledge to alter and decide moves they may make? I mean why would they say he is coming back and then lie about that to appease some odd portion of the fanbase if they are unable to make a decision about player adds? I don't get it


I didn't say they were "lying" but teams absolutely take into account when they release certain information. PR is a real thing.

Wright returning or not should have no bearing on the fact that we can add an OF bat and make the team better. We aren't going to ever have any "definitive" answer on Wright because the nature of his condition makes everything incredibly unpredictable. Even if he does come back in 3-4 weeks, he could well play in 2 games and wind up shelved again.

They have to treat him like a complete bonus this year. Banking on anything more than that from him would be terribly miscalculated.
This Mejia situation  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 6:54 pm : link
makes me think there are still steroids in the game with better masking agents, ect. How the hell would a player take the same steroids he just got banned from within 3 weeks of getting back unless he thought he could beat it?

Makes no sense.
That's the problem, a 2nd/3rd tier OFer only helps if he can play CF  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 6:54 pm : link
Because truth is Byrd isn't a huge upgrade over Conforto/Cuddyer/K. Johnson.

With Parra you get defense and you cross your fingers this is a breakout year as opposed to a Xavier Nady-esque flash in the pan.

At this point adding a big bat is the only thing that could have a big impact. All of them just make the defensive alignment somewhat odd.
RE: The OF  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 6:55 pm : link
In comment 12389915 ZGiants98 said:
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is Conforto, Kirk, and Granderson. The bench is Johnson, Lagares, and soon Cuddyer as well.

The only player that does't belong is possibly Kirk if you can upgrade CF but as far as depth and 4th and 5th options I think we are good.

Just the way I look at it now.


I wouldn't rely on anything at all from Cuddyer the rest of the way. CF is 100% upgradeable. And it's not like we have so many studs in the CO spots that we just cannot afford to add someone. If the opportunity presents itself it would still be a good idea.
Arc.  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 7:04 pm : link
I would agree if you are referring to Upton or Cespedes or Bruce but a Byrd isn't that big of an upgrade in a corner anymore. And I still absolutely think Cuddyer will be a nice platoon player/bench piece. He still has hit 7 homeruns. Cuddyer will be what Mayberry was supposed to be on steroids and Im fine with him in that role. Still a huge disappointment overall but also still a huge upgrade over Mayberry/Cambell as far as the bench.
RE: That's the problem, a 2nd/3rd tier OFer only helps if he can play CF  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 7:05 pm : link
In comment 12389924 Eric on Li said:
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Because truth is Byrd isn't a huge upgrade over Conforto/Cuddyer/K. Johnson.

With Parra you get defense and you cross your fingers this is a breakout year as opposed to a Xavier Nady-esque flash in the pan.

At this point adding a big bat is the only thing that could have a big impact. All of them just make the defensive alignment somewhat odd.


Yeah this is where I am kind of at. Parra still makes the most sense.
Byrd is on pace for about 30 HR this year.  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 7:09 pm : link
Forget Cuddyer. Use him as a backup 1B. And the guy gets hurt so often that he may not even make it back for the long haul.

I'm not even advocating we sign Byrd as much as I'm saying it would be better than just doing nothing. I obviously want one of the other guys.. especially one who can man CF.

It's going to be hard for me to accept Uribe, Johnson and Clippard as "the moves". The Nats have Rendon, Zimmerman and Werth back now and just got better in the pen.. we aren't going to leapfrog them unless we add one more piece. TdA will help. Can he stay healthy? Who knows. Anything we get from DW is a bonus. Can't expect anything from him.
Yup.  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 7:10 pm : link
Mets Merized Online ‏@MetsMerized 5m5 minutes ago Staten Island, NY
I'm so pissed off at Mejia suspension. He has undermined the team again and completely negated the Tyler Clippard trade. Cut his ass now!!!
RE: Yup.  
sphinx : 7/28/2015 7:12 pm : link
In comment 12389965 ZGiants98 said:
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Mets Merized Online ‏@MetsMerized 5m5 minutes ago Staten Island, NY
I'm so pissed off at Mejia suspension. He has undermined the team again and completely negated the Tyler Clippard trade. Cut his ass now!!!

Yeah, but ...

Ken Davidoff
Just for the record, Jenrry Mejia is still eligible for the 2016 postseason. #Mets (probably not in 2016, though.)

Marlon Byrd  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 7:13 pm : link
wRC+ 104

Kelly Johnson

wRC+ 113. And Kelly Johnson is on the bench.

Don't get me wrong. I like Byrd, but adding him and I guess cutting Kirk? Demoting Conforto? Doesn't make a lot of sense. CF is a bigger priority IMO unless you are bringing a game changer in which case you then MAKE it work.
RE: RE: Yup.  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 7:14 pm : link
In comment 12389970 sphinx said:
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In comment 12389965 ZGiants98 said:


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Mets Merized Online ‏@MetsMerized 5m5 minutes ago Staten Island, NY
I'm so pissed off at Mejia suspension. He has undermined the team again and completely negated the Tyler Clippard trade. Cut his ass now!!!


Yeah, but ...

Ken Davidoff
Just for the record, Jenrry Mejia is still eligible for the 2016 postseason. #Mets (probably not in 2016, though.)


Thats weird. I just saw he wasn't?
Matz  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 7:17 pm : link
The Mets received some more encouraging news on the injury front on Tuesday.

Steven Matz has been shutdown for nearly three weeks since the discovery or a torn lay muscle in his left side.

Matz visited with team doctors during Mondays off-day, and Sandy Alderson said the tear has improved, although he will undergo another examination next week before determining the next step.

Matz has been on the 15-day disabled list since July 10, retroactive to July 6. There is still no timetable for Matz to begin a throwing program.
Arc  
SethFromAstoria : 7/28/2015 7:18 pm : link
they made two good moves and in order to make trades they have to make sense and benefit both sides....so if they can't get another bat it doesn't mean they didn't seek a player but couldn't work out a deal. Wouldn't you much rather they not part with certain guys than just give up a lot for a possible rental? They've shown that they are not averse to making moves so if they can't find a match does that automatically make them "wrong" somehow ? I don't agree with that at all...only make a move if it's the right move
Well of course they aren't averse to making moves...  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 7:24 pm : link
...neither one of these moves have cost the front office a dime. What team would be in that situation?

The first 2 moves were good ones. But these guys are all rentals too. So you're telling the fans you're picking these guys up because you think you can make the postseason this year otherwise there's no reason to make them.

Problem is, it's still not going to be enough. And not all of the available players are rentals. Neither Bruce or Gomez would be rental players.
Yeah and I think the additions, plus Conforto,  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 7:26 pm : link
plus getting TDA, Matz, and hopefully Wright back will be enough to give us a shot this year which is what I wanted.... also while maintaining the kids for 2016-2018. That said, I still am holding out hope that we acquire somebody like Parra.


Lucas!!!  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 7:28 pm : link
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lets hope this is the real Duda coming back  
Kevin999 : 7/28/2015 7:28 pm : link
and not just a small hot streak
Oh Yes Duda  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 7:28 pm : link
3 homeruns in the last 3 days. Please be real.
Boy if Duda gets  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 7:30 pm : link
hot and goes on a tear
That was a 456 foot  
pjcas18 : 7/28/2015 7:31 pm : link
bomb, 2nd longest at citi this year, after Stanton.

per Anthony DiComo om twitter
RE: I said trade Mejia the moment he came back  
speedywheels : 7/28/2015 7:34 pm : link
In comment 12389827 Giants2012 said:
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NO, NO, NO said the cheerleaders


Who the fuck would trade for a player JUST coming off an 80 game suspension??
I feel like we could cut down 30% of Mets threads if people just  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/28/2015 7:35 pm : link
stopped trying to play the TOLD YOU SO card.
Besides the fact he was just coming off suspension  
pjcas18 : 7/28/2015 7:36 pm : link
I called several GM's and offered them Mejia, but none returned my calls except one who said I'm not authorized to trade Mets players.
RE: I feel like we could cut down 30% of Mets threads if people just  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 7:38 pm : link
In comment 12390002 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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stopped trying to play the TOLD YOU SO card.


Or just stopped responding to 12.
TTH..  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 7:39 pm : link
It's mostly just one person who never actually adds anything of substance but feels inclined to insult everyone else at the end of 90% of his posts.

Most of us have learned to just ignore it.
Great watching  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 7:40 pm : link
Thor growing right before our eyes into something special
Alderson on Tulo via ESPN  
pjcas18 : 7/28/2015 7:40 pm : link
from Heyman twitter link

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NEW YORK -- The New York Mets were engaged in trade talks concerning Troy Tulowitzki, Mets GM Sandy Alderson said Tuesday.

Tulowitzki, the slugging but injury-prone shortstop in the second year of a seven-year, $132 million contract, was dealt by the Colorado Rockies to the Toronto Blue Jays on Tuesday.

"Our conversations [with the Rockies regarding Tulowitzki] involved more than an inquiry on our part, it went further than that," Alderson said. "But beyond that I just cant comment."

The GM admitted he was "a little surprised" when he learned of the Tulowitzki trade. But the Mets may still add another hitter before the July 31 trade deadline.

"Were still talking [to other teams]," Alderson said. "Ive been hesitant to make predictions in the past, and will continue to be hesitant to do so. Theres still a few days to go. Well continue to talk, and well see where it takes us."
Ugh.. Kirk.  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 7:43 pm : link
Come on.
Alderson sounds like a middle schooler  
Shecky : 7/28/2015 7:49 pm : link
We kissed on the lips. But I won't tell you if I felt her boobies
Lol
I could see noah  
KWhite2250 : 7/28/2015 7:53 pm : link
Throwing one of those.....hope to not jinx it
Thor is very, very quickly becoming an Ace.  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 7:54 pm : link
.
Thor is dealing...  
speedywheels : 7/28/2015 7:55 pm : link
Lots of pitches so far, but he's on it tonight...
This is what we envisioned  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 7:58 pm : link
when they made the Dickey trade. It actually happened
Ive always been high on Syndergaard  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 7:59 pm : link
but this is ridiculous. This deGrom all over again. I can't believe he is THIS good THIS fast. Its unbelievable.

after 2012  
pjcas18 : 7/28/2015 8:02 pm : link
I wanted to like Tejada. he had a really good season for a 22 year old.

but he was publicly trashed by the FO in 2013 for coming in out of shape and not working hard and since then he's been a whipping boy (and he's deserved it), but you have to admit he's playing well lately.

He is  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 8:04 pm : link
and Ive bashed him as much as anyone. Im not the type to cut my nose to spite my face however. I still have my doubts but as long as he keeps hitting and doesn't go into one of his infamous "Tejada slumps" he can keep playing SS for a while. Don't have an issue with it.
These 4 guys have been among the most impressive rookie pitchers  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 8:05 pm : link
I've ever seen. Insane how they've arrived in succession within just a few years of each other.
Michael Fulmer  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 8:06 pm : link
6 innings 0 runs 3 hits 0 BB 9k

going to miss him
Dude that  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 8:07 pm : link
89 mph chnageup has me giddy. WTF. I thought Thor was a fastball/curveball guy. He is throwing like 3 or 4 plus pitches now.
RE: Michael Fulmer  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 8:08 pm : link
In comment 12390050 Headhunter said:
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6 innings 0 runs 3 hits 0 BB 9k

going to miss him


Wow.
Don't forget  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 8:08 pm : link
his new Warthen Slider
Tejada is still only 25 years old  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 8:09 pm : link
How great it would be for both he and the Mets if he turns around his career and we see more of what we saw his first couple of seasons from him from here on out.

He was very young and was following a star in Reyes, he very well maybe took it all for granted. I don't think he will ever take it for granted again.

RE: This is what we envisioned  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 8:11 pm : link
In comment 12390035 Headhunter said:
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when they made the Dickey trade. It actually happened


I thought most expectation at the time of the trade was for TDA and Thor was the extra player.
RE: after 2012  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 8:11 pm : link
In comment 12390039 pjcas18 said:
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I wanted to like Tejada. he had a really good season for a 22 year old.

but he was publicly trashed by the FO in 2013 for coming in out of shape and not working hard and since then he's been a whipping boy (and he's deserved it), but you have to admit he's playing well lately.


Yeah me too. Times were rough enough back then that I actually really was excited about him and thought he could be a really good SS. Things have changed a bit since but he's still very young.
steve  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 8:15 pm : link
I thought Wuilmer Bercerra was the extra player and he is slowly developing into a major prospect
RE: steve  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 8:17 pm : link
In comment 12390070 Headhunter said:
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I thought Wuilmer Bercerra was the extra player and he is slowly developing into a major prospect


He was the throw in (grin)
.  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 8:17 pm : link
Noah is really in a nice groove tonight
Fulmer  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 8:18 pm : link
era 1.88
RE: RE: This is what we envisioned  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 8:19 pm : link
In comment 12390064 steve in ky said:
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In comment 12390035 Headhunter said:


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when they made the Dickey trade. It actually happened



I thought most expectation at the time of the trade was for TDA and Thor was the extra player.


No. Syndergaard was a main component. TDA was already agreed. Sandy was insisting on Syndergaard. Blue Jays tried to get Sandy to go for other players and Sandy stayed stead fast and said he wanted Syndergaard. Beccerra was the third upside prospect. I still can't believe that trade actually.
This is getting  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 8:22 pm : link
interesting
the boy is dealing  
ShocknAwe80 : 7/28/2015 8:22 pm : link
WOW!
ummm....  
speedywheels : 7/28/2015 8:23 pm : link
this is an......interesting start so far for Thor
.  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 8:24 pm : link
Needs to get more efficient with his pitch count  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 8:24 pm : link
1 quick inning would be huge.
Would sure be nice to get him a few more runs  
speedywheels : 7/28/2015 8:25 pm : link
...
Maybe I'm alone in this  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 8:27 pm : link
but I just don't like the nickname Thor. But then I am not one to call players by nicknames that often anyway.
Fulmer really seems to be figuring things out  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 8:28 pm : link
Robert Brender ‏@robertbrender
Michael Fulmer has a three-hit shutout through 7 innings with 11 strikeouts and no walks.
10 pitch inning would be real nice about now  
speedywheels : 7/28/2015 8:30 pm : link
...
Fulmer  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 8:30 pm : link
Wow. Here comes another ace.

7IP, 3H, 0R, 0BB, 11K 1.86 ERA
RE: Maybe I'm alone in this  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 8:32 pm : link
In comment 12390093 steve in ky said:
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but I just don't like the nickname Thor. But then I am not one to call players by nicknames that often anyway.


Its just so perfect though. lol. 6'7 tall long haired blonde Scandinavian who's name even sounds like Asgard AND he throws a hammer? Sorry. He's Thor. lol.
Likley a few people in the organization  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 8:34 pm : link
deserves some real credit for the success in developing these young arms.

This type of percentage of success has got to be off the charts.

Frank Viola has to be one, but there us likely a few minor league pitching coaches doing a fine job.
lawdy lawdy lawdy  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 8:35 pm : link
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I don"t believe in jinxes but Gary sure makes it a point to  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 8:36 pm : link
always mention perfect games.
RE: Likley a few people in the organization  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 8:36 pm : link
In comment 12390109 steve in ky said:
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deserves some real credit for the success in developing these young arms.

This type of percentage of success has got to be off the charts.

Frank Viola has to be one, but there us likely a few minor league pitching coaches doing a fine job.


Definitely - it's truly astonishing. Each of these guys has been ranked behind 5-10 other pitchers in the minors and yet they get to the majors and dominate. I'm sure it's some combination of factors but all involved deserve credit.
And Warthen deserves  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 8:37 pm : link
a lifetime contract. The best pitching coach I can ever remember in Mets history.
Citi Field is  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 8:39 pm : link
Rocking, feels electric
Warthen would only need 9 minutes  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 8:39 pm : link
with Zambrano.
RE: 10 pitch inning would be real nice about now  
speedywheels : 7/28/2015 8:40 pm : link
In comment 12390096 speedywheels said:
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...


Thanks for listening, Thor!
RE: Citi Field is  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 8:41 pm : link
In comment 12390122 Headhunter said:
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Rocking, feels electric


Are you at the game?

What a game to be at. One of the things I miss the most about leaving NY is being able to go to a lot of games other than the occasional away game I travel to.
No  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 8:43 pm : link
You can see it on TV and feel it through the TV
RE: I don  
ShocknAwe80 : 7/28/2015 8:44 pm : link
In comment 12390115 steve in ky said:
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always mention perfect games.


I agree... it's like dude, we are watching the game, we van see the line score... SHUT UP ABOUT IT!!!!
WELL, so much for that  
Anakim : 7/28/2015 8:46 pm : link
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fuckin GARY!!!  
ShocknAwe80 : 7/28/2015 8:47 pm : link
shit!
What the fuck was that?  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 8:47 pm : link
.
Let's win the  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 8:47 pm : link
game
Nice job tejada  
PhiPsi125 : 7/28/2015 8:47 pm : link
What a idiot
Oh, well  
speedywheels : 7/28/2015 8:47 pm : link
.
RE: Nice job tejada  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 8:48 pm : link
In comment 12390155 PhiPsi125 said:
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What a idiot


Trouble in paradise!!!
Ugh  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 8:48 pm : link
Freaking Tejada. Geezus.
I feel bad for Tejada, he was trying to make a miraculous play  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 8:49 pm : link
and it really only cost them 1 base. It was a pretty funny gaffe though. Very Ruben.
Tejada redeems himself  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 8:50 pm : link
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Nice  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 8:51 pm : link
rebounding
that was some GREAT pitching  
ShocknAwe80 : 7/28/2015 8:52 pm : link
GREAT!
Go Marlins  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 8:53 pm : link
Nats losing 3-1.
RE: Tejada redeems himself  
PhiPsi125 : 7/28/2015 8:54 pm : link
In comment 12390165 steve in ky said:
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By fielding a ball hit right at him? Lol okay.
RE: RE: Tejada redeems himself  
schabadoo : 7/28/2015 8:57 pm : link
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By fielding a ball hit right at him? Lol okay.


Your consistency with Tejada is impressive. What's he got, five errors now? He tried to make a play and it didn't work, not that big a deal.
They've already handed Kris Bryant the NL ROY  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 8:57 pm : link
but his .254 average is close to Syndergaard's 2.74 ERA. Nic Pederson seems like an all or nothing hitter. 2 months is long time
Joc  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 8:58 pm : link
autocorrect
Joc Pederson is like a young Carlos Pena  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 8:59 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: Tejada redeems himself  
PhiPsi125 : 7/28/2015 9:01 pm : link
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By fielding a ball hit right at him? Lol okay.



Your consistency with Tejada is impressive. What's he got, five errors now? He tried to make a play and it didn't work, not that big a deal.


Hey, I'm fully aware that Tejada has been playing a better SS than Flores had been. That doesn't mean he's exempt from being called out on a boneheaded play. Or does that only apply to the other guy that used to play there?
RE: They've already handed Kris Bryant the NL ROY  
dep026 : 7/28/2015 9:02 pm : link
In comment 12390184 Headhunter said:
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but his .254 average is close to Syndergaard's 2.74 ERA. Nic Pederson seems like an all or nothing hitter. 2 months is long time


If Noah finishes strong, there are 5 guys they can choose from.

Joc
Bryant
Noah
Heston
Franco

Whats funny is the bottom 3 may have been better than the first two annointed ones.
Get Clippard up  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 9:02 pm : link
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It's really incomprehensible to me  
Deej : 7/28/2015 9:02 pm : link
how good this young pitching really is. 3-4 of these guys could be all stars.
Bad play by Murphy  
Deej : 7/28/2015 9:03 pm : link
That's Tejada's ball. Doesnt matter that he made the play.
RE: RE: Tejada redeems himself  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 9:04 pm : link
In comment 12390175 PhiPsi125 said:
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By fielding a ball hit right at him? Lol okay.


Man your hate for Tejada is over the top. Odd from the guy who wigged out whenever anyone pointed out a poor play by Flores.

He started a nice double play that got them out of the jam and the inning so yes he redeemed himself.
Sorry for the late thread  
Fort Mill Mike : 7/28/2015 9:06 pm : link
I did look for one but didn't scroll far enough. I deleted it. Right. Carry on.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Tejada redeems himself  
schabadoo : 7/28/2015 9:09 pm : link
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By fielding a ball hit right at him? Lol okay.



Your consistency with Tejada is impressive. What's he got, five errors now? He tried to make a play and it didn't work, not that big a deal.



Hey, I'm fully aware that Tejada has been playing a better SS than Flores had been. That doesn't mean he's exempt from being called out on a boneheaded play. Or does that only apply to the other guy that used to play there?


Flores fell down trying to turn a routine double play. No one called him an idiot.
What a fucking  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 9:09 pm : link
performance!
I wish they would let him finish this game  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 9:09 pm : link
but with todays strict pitching counts I doubt it.
RE: RE: RE: Tejada redeems himself  
PhiPsi125 : 7/28/2015 9:11 pm : link
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By fielding a ball hit right at him? Lol okay.



Man your hate for Tejada is over the top. Odd from the guy who wigged out whenever anyone pointed out a poor play by Flores.

He started a nice double play that got them out of the jam and the inning so yes he redeemed himself.


Sorry Steve, just being snarky. And maybe it is over the top. But Flores couldn't take a shit with being ridiculed. Now Tejada make a boneheaded play and it's "good try" and then praise him for fielding the most routine ground ball there is? Man, the double standard is astounding. Maybe I'm just making a point. Sorry, Tejada is a bum and I don't think I'll ever warm up to him. Sorry it bugs you.
I Would send him out for the 9th  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 9:11 pm : link
someone gets on, I bring in Familia
So much for that  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 9:12 pm : link
idea
I'd hesitate putting Familia in tonight  
Shecky : 7/28/2015 9:13 pm : link
Have to hope his head is in it tonight with Mejia news.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Tejada redeems himself  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 9:16 pm : link
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By fielding a ball hit right at him? Lol okay.



Man your hate for Tejada is over the top. Odd from the guy who wigged out whenever anyone pointed out a poor play by Flores.

He started a nice double play that got them out of the jam and the inning so yes he redeemed himself.



Sorry Steve, just being snarky. And maybe it is over the top. But Flores couldn't take a shit with being ridiculed. Now Tejada make a boneheaded play and it's "good try" and then praise him for fielding the most routine ground ball there is? Man, the double standard is astounding. Maybe I'm just making a point. Sorry, Tejada is a bum and I don't think I'll ever warm up to him. Sorry it bugs you.


It sure comes across that when it comes to Tejada and Flores you are incapable of being objective and tend to read far too much into most casual comments made about either.
On the fence but if he's our closer  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 9:16 pm : link
He's got to come in and shut the door tonight. I also think the sooner he gets out there and gets a save in the books, the quicker he can get over the blown saves.
Grandy!  
Deej : 7/28/2015 9:16 pm : link
!
Grandy bomb!!!  
PhiPsi125 : 7/28/2015 9:16 pm : link
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Granderson has been playing some nice ball of late  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 9:17 pm : link
Two nice insurance runs
GRANDY!  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 9:17 pm : link
Oh how I love thee.
Schecky  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 9:17 pm : link
I hope he more of a professional not to think about that stuff on the mound
RE: Granderson has been playing some nice ball of late  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 9:17 pm : link
In comment 12390251 steve in ky said:
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Two nice insurance runs


Of late? He's been awesome all year.
And no Famiia tonight  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 9:18 pm : link
so it's not an issue
Wooooo Curtis!  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 9:19 pm : link
No doubt we go to Clippard now
RE: Schecky  
Shecky : 7/28/2015 9:19 pm : link
In comment 12390253 Headhunter said:
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I hope he more of a professional not to think about that stuff on the mound


Grandy took care of that for us.
RE: RE: Granderson has been playing some nice ball of late  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 9:19 pm : link
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Two nice insurance runs



Of late? He's been awesome all year.


That's true, but feels like he has raised his game even more this past month or so.
Cool I like this  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 9:19 pm : link
now that its a 4 runs game. Get Clippard's nerves out of the way playing for a new team tonight.
RE: RE: RE: Granderson has been playing some nice ball of late  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 9:22 pm : link
In comment 12390260 steve in ky said:
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Two nice insurance runs



Of late? He's been awesome all year.



That's true, but feels like he has raised his game even more this past month or so.


Outside of the first few weeks when he struggled but still found ways to get on base via the walk he's been a consistent wRC+ of 115-120 all year.
I love the kid but Noah sure has some goofy expressions some times  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 9:23 pm : link
LOL It's like while sitting on the bench he can't really believe what has just done or something.

It's actually refreshing to see
RE: Joc Pederson is like a young Carlos Pena  
Deej : 7/28/2015 9:24 pm : link
In comment 12390192 arcarsenal said:
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I was thinking Adam Dunn, but same difference. However, it is + good CF defense. That's massively more valuable, obviously. Adam Dunn with CF defense is a franchise player.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Tejada redeems himself  
PhiPsi125 : 7/28/2015 9:24 pm : link
In comment 12390244 steve in ky said:
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It sure comes across that when it comes to Tejada and Flores you are incapable of being objective and tend to read far too much into most casual comments made about either.


steve, I can understand why you think that way but that's not true. No, I don't like Tejada, but I also know he's been an adequate fielder at SS. I'm obviously a big Flores supporter and would have like to see him get more of a chance at second since he was having a very good July.

But I find it odd that were perfectly fine with this place exploding every time Flores stepped in the wrong direction yet you have an issue with me acting the same way towards Tejada.

Don't want this to become a Flores/Tejada thing, but praising Tejada for fielding a routine ground ball is like praising a 15 year old for not wetting the bed.
lol.  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 9:25 pm : link
great
RE: RE: Joc Pederson is like a young Carlos Pena  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 9:26 pm : link
In comment 12390281 Deej said:
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I was thinking Adam Dunn, but same difference. However, it is + good CF defense. That's massively more valuable, obviously. Adam Dunn with CF defense is a franchise player.


Yeah, it's just the free swinging all or nothing approach. He's obviously a much better fielder.
Anyone surprised that Matz isn't ready to throw?  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 9:27 pm : link
Not me!
Phil  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 9:29 pm : link
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you have an issue with me acting the same way towards Tejada.


I don't have any issue with you complaining if Tejada makes a mistake. If you look back I didn't respond to that at all.

I only responded to your mocking my comment that he redeemed himself by helping turn the double play to get out of the inning.

You act like I said he made some unreal catch or something, it was an in game comment because I was happy they got out of it and I am sure he was happy to have the chance to help turn the double play to erase his error. You just have to read so much into every comment.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Tejada redeems himself  
schabadoo : 7/28/2015 9:29 pm : link
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By fielding a ball hit right at him? Lol okay.



Man your hate for Tejada is over the top. Odd from the guy who wigged out whenever anyone pointed out a poor play by Flores.

He started a nice double play that got them out of the jam and the inning so yes he redeemed himself.



Sorry Steve, just being snarky. And maybe it is over the top. But Flores couldn't take a shit with being ridiculed. Now Tejada make a boneheaded play and it's "good try" and then praise him for fielding the most routine ground ball there is? Man, the double standard is astounding. Maybe I'm just making a point. Sorry, Tejada is a bum and I don't think I'll ever warm up to him. Sorry it bugs you.



It sure comes across that when it comes to Tejada and Flores you are incapable of being objective and tend to read far too much into most casual comments made about either.


Yeah that about sums it up.

I'd like the Mets to succeed, not really that hung up on one player vs another. It doesn't make sense.
Lol Tejada  
PhiPsi125 : 7/28/2015 9:30 pm : link
FML
Nice game!  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 9:30 pm : link
Nats losing 4-1. LETS GO BOYS!
We  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 9:31 pm : link
win
Watch out, Nats.  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 9:31 pm : link
We are coming for you.
I guess you would have to say that was a pretty nice play by Tejada  
ciggy : 7/28/2015 9:31 pm : link
To end the game. ????
and steve, sorry man  
PhiPsi125 : 7/28/2015 9:32 pm : link
I'll chill on my Tejada hate. Don't want to be a downer.

#teamtejada
Lets go fish  
KWhite2250 : 7/28/2015 9:32 pm : link
Get those last outs baby!
lets sweep the Pads  
spike : 7/28/2015 9:32 pm : link
!
RE: Anyone surprised that Matz isn't ready to throw?  
Shecky : 7/28/2015 9:33 pm : link
In comment 12390294 arcarsenal said:
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Not me!

It's presumed to be a six week injury, checkup for any progress after three.
Lucas Duda's  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 9:35 pm : link
homerun was the furthest hit homerun ever by a Met at Citified tonight. Pretty kewl.
RE: Fulmer really seems to be figuring things out  
spike : 7/28/2015 9:36 pm : link
In comment 12390094 Eric on Li said:
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Robert Brender ‏@robertbrender
Michael Fulmer has a three-hit shutout through 7 innings with 11 strikeouts and no walks.


He might be a major pitching prospect next season.. dont trade him just yet, Sandy!
So close, Headhunter, soooooo close...  
PhiPsi125 : 7/28/2015 9:36 pm : link
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Happy Birthday!
Headhunter : 1:26 pm : link : reply
Thor is going to throw a no-hitter tonight and dedicate to you


Happy Birthday Dan!!!
.  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 9:36 pm : link
Add one rookie and two veterans and look at the different dimension it gives this team.

The teams entire attitude feels so different.
RE: Lucas Duda's  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 9:38 pm : link
In comment 12390328 ZGiants98 said:
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homerun was the furthest hit homerun ever by a Met at Citified tonight. Pretty kewl.


I have said this a few times this season. IMO as Duda goes so goes this Mets team.

Nice to see him finally breaking out of his slump.
RE: TTH..  
SethFromAstoria : 7/28/2015 9:39 pm : link
In comment 12390007 arcarsenal said:
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It's mostly just one person who never actually adds anything of substance but feels inclined to insult everyone else at the end of 90% of his posts.

Most of us have learned to just ignore it.


Is it really insulting to a grown man to have someone disagree with your opinion that you publically post on a board intended to start conversation? When exactly did you feel the burn of being insulted by anything I said?
You may be a little sensitive if you were insulted because I didn't agree that they will have somehow failed at the deadline if they can't get a good bat without giving away a good young player.

Also what makes you think anyone provides "substance" just because they comment a thousand times a day and say the same things every time ?
RE: RE: Lucas Duda's  
spike : 7/28/2015 9:40 pm : link
In comment 12390333 steve in ky said:
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homerun was the furthest hit homerun ever by a Met at Citified tonight. Pretty kewl.



I have said this a few times this season. IMO as Duda goes so goes this Mets team.

Nice to see him finally breaking out of his slump.


Hopefully the new additions allowed Duda to relax a little and be himself again.
Jesus Christ the continuous  
Rory : 7/28/2015 9:43 pm : link
Bitching about Flores an Tejada is beyond nauseating. Especially when Tejada has been showing so much improvement. Just enjoy the moment

Fulmer could very well be the reason the Mers are open to trading Wheeler
RE: I feel like we could cut down 30% of Mets threads if people just  
SethFromAstoria : 7/28/2015 9:43 pm : link
In comment 12390002 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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stopped trying to play the TOLD YOU SO card.


So you agree we could cut down on 70% if we stop discussing the same arguments about ownership, cheapness, the manager, and trade rumors made up by bad writers. So we agree
RE: RE: TTH..  
PhiPsi125 : 7/28/2015 9:44 pm : link
In comment 12390337 SethFromAstoria said:
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It's mostly just one person who never actually adds anything of substance but feels inclined to insult everyone else at the end of 90% of his posts.

Most of us have learned to just ignore it.



Is it really insulting to a grown man to have someone disagree with your opinion that you publically post on a board intended to start conversation? When exactly did you feel the burn of being insulted by anything I said?
You may be a little sensitive if you were insulted because I didn't agree that they will have somehow failed at the deadline if they can't get a good bat without giving away a good young player.

Also what makes you think anyone provides "substance" just because they comment a thousand times a day and say the same things every time ?


Seth, I'm almost 100% positive he wasn't referring to you.
RE: RE: RE: Lucas Duda's  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 9:44 pm : link
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homerun was the furthest hit homerun ever by a Met at Citified tonight. Pretty kewl.



I have said this a few times this season. IMO as Duda goes so goes this Mets team.

Nice to see him finally breaking out of his slump.



Hopefully the new additions allowed Duda to relax a little and be himself again.


I think you're right about that. Duda seems to have a pretty timid personality. I think he was pitting too much pressure on himself when the team wasn't scoring and he didn't handle it well. I think having a few fresh and more proven guys around will help.
Seth  
Shecky : 7/28/2015 9:45 pm : link
You aren't the poster he was referring to
Great game to be at  
Mike in NY : 7/28/2015 9:47 pm : link
Was getting excited after 6 perfect
RE: RE: I feel like we could cut down 30% of Mets threads if people just  
Giants2012 : 7/28/2015 9:49 pm : link
In comment 12390356 SethFromAstoria said:
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stopped trying to play the TOLD YOU SO card.



So you agree we could cut down on 70% if we stop discussing the same arguments about ownership, cheapness, the manager, and trade rumors made up by bad writers. So we agree


This group has a run rate of about 2% substance in which they repeat and take bows for the same material. The 98% are just reciting a highlight or tweet as it happens.
The Ghost of Cesar Puello  
spike : 7/28/2015 9:50 pm : link
is back, rehabbing (!) in the GCL!!

He should be back to LV soon, after passing through waivers again.
RE: RE: TTH..  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 9:51 pm : link
In comment 12390337 SethFromAstoria said:
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It's mostly just one person who never actually adds anything of substance but feels inclined to insult everyone else at the end of 90% of his posts.

Most of us have learned to just ignore it.



Is it really insulting to a grown man to have someone disagree with your opinion that you publically post on a board intended to start conversation? When exactly did you feel the burn of being insulted by anything I said?
You may be a little sensitive if you were insulted because I didn't agree that they will have somehow failed at the deadline if they can't get a good bat without giving away a good young player.

Also what makes you think anyone provides "substance" just because they comment a thousand times a day and say the same things every time ?


My post had absolutely nothing to do with you. Carry on.
It's too soon to declare Duda's slump over  
Torrag : 7/28/2015 9:52 pm : link
He needs to maintain some consistency before we get there. That said it's good to see him flashing some power and contributing.
Miami blowing a 4-1 lead in the 9th  
larryflower37 : 7/28/2015 9:53 pm : link
Ugh
RE: Miami blowing a 4-1 lead in the 9th  
larryflower37 : 7/28/2015 9:54 pm : link
In comment 12390383 larryflower37 said:
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Ugh

Disregard...
1 game back
RE: Miami blowing a 4-1 lead in the 9th  
spike : 7/28/2015 9:54 pm : link
In comment 12390383 larryflower37 said:
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Ugh


Bases loaded, 1 out for the Nats, but it looks like the Marlins closer was about to induce a double play to end the game!
RE: .  
Ralph.C : 7/28/2015 9:54 pm : link
In comment 12390332 steve in ky said:
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Add one rookie and two veterans and look at the different dimension it gives this team.

The teams entire attitude feels so different.


THIS! ^^^^^
RE: RE: Miami blowing a 4-1 lead in the 9th  
spike : 7/28/2015 9:55 pm : link
In comment 12390384 larryflower37 said:
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Ugh


Disregard...
1 game back


They are primed for the taking this weekend at Citifield! We have our top three starters going against them too
Anyone else think  
Tanker20 : 7/28/2015 9:55 pm : link
That Confortos swing looks like Beltrans?

Two handed level swing, both hit the high ball for power rather than low , very balanced, good eye, etc
Nats lose  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 9:56 pm : link
Mets one game out
RE: Anyone else think  
Giants2012 : 7/28/2015 10:06 pm : link
In comment 12390390 Tanker20 said:
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That Confortos swing looks like Beltrans?

Two handed level swing, both hit the high ball for power rather than low , very balanced, good eye, etc


Looks like a professional hitter.
RE: The Ghost of Cesar Puello  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 10:08 pm : link
In comment 12390379 spike said:
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is back, rehabbing (!) in the GCL!!

He should be back to LV soon, after passing through waivers again.


Im surprised and a bit confused about this? He did pass through waivers again or did he just start a rehab assignment?
RE: Nats lose  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 10:10 pm : link
In comment 12390391 steve in ky said:
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Mets one game out


How sweet would be to START the Nats series already in first or tied? Lets sweep these Maxi Pads.
Cubs also getting trounced  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 10:12 pm : link
Giants game about to get under way.
RE: RE: Nats lose  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 10:14 pm : link
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Mets one game out



How sweet would be to START the Nats series already in first or tied? Lets sweep these Maxi Pads.


That would be sweet!

This is a fun time to be a fan.
And enough with the Nats injury excuse  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 10:18 pm : link
They have Rendon, Werth, and Zimmerman back in the lineup now. Essentially they have their entire lineup healthy save for Span.
RE: Cubs also getting trounced  
spike : 7/28/2015 10:21 pm : link
In comment 12390406 ZGiants98 said:
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Giants game about to get under way.


The Cubs aren't that good, with no strong starting pitching.. They might be charlatans. However, the Giants are for real and the Mets have to either catch them or the Nationals.
Wonder what the Astros would take for Joe Thatcher  
Shecky : 7/28/2015 10:22 pm : link
DFAd, worth a flyer if cost is next to nothing which it likely is.
If the Dodgers fail to acquire more pitching...  
Torrag : 7/28/2015 10:25 pm : link
we'll be chasing them and not the Giants.
RE: RE: Cubs also getting trounced  
PhiPsi125 : 7/28/2015 10:25 pm : link
In comment 12390421 spike said:
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Giants game about to get under way.



The Cubs aren't that good, with no strong starting pitching.. They might be charlatans. However, the Giants are for real and the Mets have to either catch them or the Nationals.


If we can just get some consistency with the offense, I truly feel like we can beat anyone.

The Mets have lost 18 out of the last 21 one run games against the Nats. Sure, it's a really crappy stat. BUT, it also tells me that we are right in all of these games. We are so close and with our pitching we can stop anyone. It's really up to the offense now.
The Mets  
spike : 7/28/2015 10:26 pm : link
are excellent at home, 35-16, tied for 2nd best in the majors (Cardinals with 37 home wins).

They are 17-32, on the road, however.
After this upcoming Nats series  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 10:29 pm : link
our schedule gets real soft. I think we are going to beef on some wins in August and go into September guns blazing.
RE: RE: They've already handed Kris Bryant the NL ROY  
Deej : 7/28/2015 10:30 pm : link
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but his .254 average is close to Syndergaard's 2.74 ERA. Nic Pederson seems like an all or nothing hitter. 2 months is long time



If Noah finishes strong, there are 5 guys they can choose from.

Joc
Bryant
Noah
Heston
Franco

Whats funny is the bottom 3 may have been better than the first two annointed ones.


Throw Correa in the top 5 discussion too.
RE: After this upcoming Nats series  
spike : 7/28/2015 10:31 pm : link
In comment 12390434 ZGiants98 said:
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our schedule gets real soft. I think we are going to beef on some wins in August and go into September guns blazing.


Yep, hopefully Metz comes back in September to take the other guys' innings and get us some key wins for the home stretch. We'll need Colon to be the man again.

Brewers up early on the Giants 1-0, 1st inning.
TDA comes back Friday  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 10:32 pm : link
I know people don't agree but

Cuddyer in a couple weeks will upgrade Cambell on the bench.

September hopefully we get Matz, Wright, and Blevins. That would be a steady does of additions from now until the playoffs.

Still hoping for one more bat though.
dose  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 10:33 pm : link
not does.
With Mejia gone  
spike : 7/28/2015 10:35 pm : link
who's taking over his spot? Clippard?
RE: TDA comes back Friday  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 10:38 pm : link
In comment 12390441 ZGiants98 said:
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I know people don't agree but

Cuddyer in a couple weeks will upgrade Cambell on the bench.

September hopefully we get Matz, Wright, and Blevins. That would be a steady does of additions from now until the playoffs.

Still hoping for one more bat though.


Not saying he shouldn't but I wonder if Collins puts Cuddyer on the bench.
RE: With Mejia gone  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 10:39 pm : link
In comment 12390446 spike said:
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who's taking over his spot? Clippard?


Yeah it already happened. Clippard took Mejia's spot and Niese took Verretts.
RE: RE: TDA comes back Friday  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 10:40 pm : link
In comment 12390448 steve in ky said:
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I know people don't agree but

Cuddyer in a couple weeks will upgrade Cambell on the bench.

September hopefully we get Matz, Wright, and Blevins. That would be a steady does of additions from now until the playoffs.

Still hoping for one more bat though.



Not saying he shouldn't but I wonder if Collins puts Cuddyer on the bench.


Im pretty positive Cuddyer will be used in a platoon role/bench role only barring some insane hot streak.
it depends on how Conforto does  
spike : 7/28/2015 10:43 pm : link
how much leash does Collins give him?

Aside from the 4 hit game, he has no hits in 3 other games played
I don't want to be that guy...  
JayBinQueens : 7/28/2015 10:49 pm : link
But being met fans, how do you not have the feeling like no matter what happens there's going to be some awful gut punch right as we least expect it?
Let's just say I'm being cautiously optimistic about what this team can do
RE: it depends on how Conforto does  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/28/2015 10:51 pm : link
In comment 12390456 spike said:
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how much leash does Collins give him?

Aside from the 4 hit game, he has no hits in 3 other games played




It's 12 at bats. Let him play.
If you yank Conforto, who are you putting in LF?  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 10:58 pm : link
Cuddyer isn't even healthy and is on the DL and the other alternatives are terrible. This shouldn't even be a discussion. Conforto is ready to be here and needs to play every day.
No hits in three games  
Shecky : 7/28/2015 11:05 pm : link
Good professional ABs, good looking swing, hitting ball well. Not looking overmatched or overwhelmed once since being called up. I'd consider it a huge plus that he's checked off every single box. Pleasant surprise.
Conforto had 1 ab  
KWhite2250 : 7/28/2015 11:10 pm : link
Where he was overnatched and that ws his 1st ab against the best pitcher in baseball right now. He dont need to go anywhere
RE: I don't want to be that guy...  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 11:28 pm : link
In comment 12390473 JayBinQueens said:
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But being met fans, how do you not have the feeling like no matter what happens there's going to be some awful gut punch right as we least expect it?
Let's just say I'm being cautiously optimistic about what this team can do


Yeah we got a nice one today in the form of Mejia. Luckily Sandy had just acquired a setup man.
there was a stat about the Cubs the other day  
Kevin999 : 7/28/2015 11:51 pm : link
They are 6-0 vs the Mets and now 46-47 vs the rest of the league.....
SF Giants  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 12:08 am : link
also getting their asses beat 5-0 in the 7th against the Brewers. Great night.
Parra 3-4 and Gomez an RBI double  
Eric on Li : 7/29/2015 12:22 am : link
But the Giants only down 3 heading into the 8th. Hopefully they can hang on.

Still can't get over how good Thor pitched tonight. He was dominating. This pitching staff is insane. Add 1 more bat Sandy. Ideally one of the previously mentioned gentleman.
RE: If you yank Conforto, who are you putting in LF?  
chris r : 7/29/2015 12:52 am : link
In comment 12390490 arcarsenal said:
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Cuddyer isn't even healthy and is on the DL and the other alternatives are terrible. This shouldn't even be a discussion. Conforto is ready to be here and needs to play every day.


A bat that's traded for perhaps or a Kelly Johnson/Cuddyer platoon.
Would be a stupid move.  
arcarsenal : 7/29/2015 8:02 am : link
Conforto looks nowhere near overmatched and belongs here. He has nothing left to gain by hitting .320 in Bing or LV. He's got a great eye, a nice balanced, level swing.. he looks like a pro hitter to me. Sending him down only makes the team worse going forward and I suspect the Mets are aware of that and won't be doing so.
I'm with you  
chris r : 7/29/2015 8:03 am : link
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Conforto will probably stay unless they trade for another outfielder  
Ira : 7/29/2015 8:13 am : link
or if Conforto starts to struggle.
RE: I'm with you  
chris r : 7/29/2015 8:15 am : link
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Although Bruce (if they got him) and Granderson might both be better than Conforto this year so if its a win now season and you don't want to play Granderson in centerfield it might be worth it.
The bar has been set pretty low  
Shecky : 7/29/2015 8:48 am : link
When "one fuckin seventy" gets you a cleanup spot in this lineup. He can struggle and still be our second best OF on the team.
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