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NFT: Padres v Mets Tuesday 7/28 @ 7:19

sphinx : 7/28/2015 3:15 pm
San Diego Padres & #8207;@Padres 4m4 minutes ago
First game of the road trip kicks off this afternoon as James Shields & the Padres take on the Mets. Today's lineup:


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RE: The OF  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 6:55 pm : link
In comment 12389915 ZGiants98 said:
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is Conforto, Kirk, and Granderson. The bench is Johnson, Lagares, and soon Cuddyer as well.

The only player that does't belong is possibly Kirk if you can upgrade CF but as far as depth and 4th and 5th options I think we are good.

Just the way I look at it now.


I wouldn't rely on anything at all from Cuddyer the rest of the way. CF is 100% upgradeable. And it's not like we have so many studs in the CO spots that we just cannot afford to add someone. If the opportunity presents itself it would still be a good idea.
Arc.  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 7:04 pm : link
I would agree if you are referring to Upton or Cespedes or Bruce but a Byrd isn't that big of an upgrade in a corner anymore. And I still absolutely think Cuddyer will be a nice platoon player/bench piece. He still has hit 7 homeruns. Cuddyer will be what Mayberry was supposed to be on steroids and Im fine with him in that role. Still a huge disappointment overall but also still a huge upgrade over Mayberry/Cambell as far as the bench.
RE: That's the problem, a 2nd/3rd tier OFer only helps if he can play CF  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 7:05 pm : link
In comment 12389924 Eric on Li said:
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Because truth is Byrd isn't a huge upgrade over Conforto/Cuddyer/K. Johnson.

With Parra you get defense and you cross your fingers this is a breakout year as opposed to a Xavier Nady-esque flash in the pan.

At this point adding a big bat is the only thing that could have a big impact. All of them just make the defensive alignment somewhat odd.


Yeah this is where I am kind of at. Parra still makes the most sense.
Byrd is on pace for about 30 HR this year.  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 7:09 pm : link
Forget Cuddyer. Use him as a backup 1B. And the guy gets hurt so often that he may not even make it back for the long haul.

I'm not even advocating we sign Byrd as much as I'm saying it would be better than just doing nothing. I obviously want one of the other guys.. especially one who can man CF.

It's going to be hard for me to accept Uribe, Johnson and Clippard as "the moves". The Nats have Rendon, Zimmerman and Werth back now and just got better in the pen.. we aren't going to leapfrog them unless we add one more piece. TdA will help. Can he stay healthy? Who knows. Anything we get from DW is a bonus. Can't expect anything from him.
Yup.  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 7:10 pm : link
Mets Merized Online ‏@MetsMerized 5m5 minutes ago Staten Island, NY
I'm so pissed off at Mejia suspension. He has undermined the team again and completely negated the Tyler Clippard trade. Cut his ass now!!!
RE: Yup.  
sphinx : 7/28/2015 7:12 pm : link
In comment 12389965 ZGiants98 said:
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Mets Merized Online ‏@MetsMerized 5m5 minutes ago Staten Island, NY
I'm so pissed off at Mejia suspension. He has undermined the team again and completely negated the Tyler Clippard trade. Cut his ass now!!!

Yeah, but ...

Ken Davidoff
Just for the record, Jenrry Mejia is still eligible for the 2016 postseason. #Mets (probably not in 2016, though.)

Marlon Byrd  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 7:13 pm : link
wRC+ 104

Kelly Johnson

wRC+ 113. And Kelly Johnson is on the bench.

Don't get me wrong. I like Byrd, but adding him and I guess cutting Kirk? Demoting Conforto? Doesn't make a lot of sense. CF is a bigger priority IMO unless you are bringing a game changer in which case you then MAKE it work.
RE: RE: Yup.  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 7:14 pm : link
In comment 12389970 sphinx said:
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In comment 12389965 ZGiants98 said:


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Mets Merized Online ‏@MetsMerized 5m5 minutes ago Staten Island, NY
I'm so pissed off at Mejia suspension. He has undermined the team again and completely negated the Tyler Clippard trade. Cut his ass now!!!


Yeah, but ...

Ken Davidoff
Just for the record, Jenrry Mejia is still eligible for the 2016 postseason. #Mets (probably not in 2016, though.)


Thats weird. I just saw he wasn't?
Matz  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 7:17 pm : link
The Mets received some more encouraging news on the injury front on Tuesday.

Steven Matz has been shutdown for nearly three weeks since the discovery or a torn lay muscle in his left side.

Matz visited with team doctors during Mondays off-day, and Sandy Alderson said the tear has improved, although he will undergo another examination next week before determining the next step.

Matz has been on the 15-day disabled list since July 10, retroactive to July 6. There is still no timetable for Matz to begin a throwing program.
Arc  
SethFromAstoria : 7/28/2015 7:18 pm : link
they made two good moves and in order to make trades they have to make sense and benefit both sides....so if they can't get another bat it doesn't mean they didn't seek a player but couldn't work out a deal. Wouldn't you much rather they not part with certain guys than just give up a lot for a possible rental? They've shown that they are not averse to making moves so if they can't find a match does that automatically make them "wrong" somehow ? I don't agree with that at all...only make a move if it's the right move
Well of course they aren't averse to making moves...  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 7:24 pm : link
...neither one of these moves have cost the front office a dime. What team would be in that situation?

The first 2 moves were good ones. But these guys are all rentals too. So you're telling the fans you're picking these guys up because you think you can make the postseason this year otherwise there's no reason to make them.

Problem is, it's still not going to be enough. And not all of the available players are rentals. Neither Bruce or Gomez would be rental players.
Yeah and I think the additions, plus Conforto,  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 7:26 pm : link
plus getting TDA, Matz, and hopefully Wright back will be enough to give us a shot this year which is what I wanted.... also while maintaining the kids for 2016-2018. That said, I still am holding out hope that we acquire somebody like Parra.


Lucas!!!  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 7:28 pm : link
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lets hope this is the real Duda coming back  
Kevin999 : 7/28/2015 7:28 pm : link
and not just a small hot streak
Oh Yes Duda  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 7:28 pm : link
3 homeruns in the last 3 days. Please be real.
Boy if Duda gets  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 7:30 pm : link
hot and goes on a tear
That was a 456 foot  
pjcas18 : 7/28/2015 7:31 pm : link
bomb, 2nd longest at citi this year, after Stanton.

per Anthony DiComo om twitter
RE: I said trade Mejia the moment he came back  
speedywheels : 7/28/2015 7:34 pm : link
In comment 12389827 Giants2012 said:
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NO, NO, NO said the cheerleaders


Who the fuck would trade for a player JUST coming off an 80 game suspension??
I feel like we could cut down 30% of Mets threads if people just  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/28/2015 7:35 pm : link
stopped trying to play the TOLD YOU SO card.
Besides the fact he was just coming off suspension  
pjcas18 : 7/28/2015 7:36 pm : link
I called several GM's and offered them Mejia, but none returned my calls except one who said I'm not authorized to trade Mets players.
RE: I feel like we could cut down 30% of Mets threads if people just  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 7:38 pm : link
In comment 12390002 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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stopped trying to play the TOLD YOU SO card.


Or just stopped responding to 12.
TTH..  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 7:39 pm : link
It's mostly just one person who never actually adds anything of substance but feels inclined to insult everyone else at the end of 90% of his posts.

Most of us have learned to just ignore it.
Great watching  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 7:40 pm : link
Thor growing right before our eyes into something special
Alderson on Tulo via ESPN  
pjcas18 : 7/28/2015 7:40 pm : link
from Heyman twitter link

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NEW YORK -- The New York Mets were engaged in trade talks concerning Troy Tulowitzki, Mets GM Sandy Alderson said Tuesday.

Tulowitzki, the slugging but injury-prone shortstop in the second year of a seven-year, $132 million contract, was dealt by the Colorado Rockies to the Toronto Blue Jays on Tuesday.

"Our conversations [with the Rockies regarding Tulowitzki] involved more than an inquiry on our part, it went further than that," Alderson said. "But beyond that I just cant comment."

The GM admitted he was "a little surprised" when he learned of the Tulowitzki trade. But the Mets may still add another hitter before the July 31 trade deadline.

"Were still talking [to other teams]," Alderson said. "Ive been hesitant to make predictions in the past, and will continue to be hesitant to do so. Theres still a few days to go. Well continue to talk, and well see where it takes us."
Ugh.. Kirk.  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 7:43 pm : link
Come on.
Alderson sounds like a middle schooler  
Shecky : 7/28/2015 7:49 pm : link
We kissed on the lips. But I won't tell you if I felt her boobies
Lol
I could see noah  
KWhite2250 : 7/28/2015 7:53 pm : link
Throwing one of those.....hope to not jinx it
Thor is very, very quickly becoming an Ace.  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 7:54 pm : link
.
Thor is dealing...  
speedywheels : 7/28/2015 7:55 pm : link
Lots of pitches so far, but he's on it tonight...
This is what we envisioned  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 7:58 pm : link
when they made the Dickey trade. It actually happened
Ive always been high on Syndergaard  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 7:59 pm : link
but this is ridiculous. This deGrom all over again. I can't believe he is THIS good THIS fast. Its unbelievable.

after 2012  
pjcas18 : 7/28/2015 8:02 pm : link
I wanted to like Tejada. he had a really good season for a 22 year old.

but he was publicly trashed by the FO in 2013 for coming in out of shape and not working hard and since then he's been a whipping boy (and he's deserved it), but you have to admit he's playing well lately.

He is  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 8:04 pm : link
and Ive bashed him as much as anyone. Im not the type to cut my nose to spite my face however. I still have my doubts but as long as he keeps hitting and doesn't go into one of his infamous "Tejada slumps" he can keep playing SS for a while. Don't have an issue with it.
These 4 guys have been among the most impressive rookie pitchers  
Eric on Li : 7/28/2015 8:05 pm : link
I've ever seen. Insane how they've arrived in succession within just a few years of each other.
Michael Fulmer  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 8:06 pm : link
6 innings 0 runs 3 hits 0 BB 9k

going to miss him
Dude that  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 8:07 pm : link
89 mph chnageup has me giddy. WTF. I thought Thor was a fastball/curveball guy. He is throwing like 3 or 4 plus pitches now.
RE: Michael Fulmer  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 8:08 pm : link
In comment 12390050 Headhunter said:
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6 innings 0 runs 3 hits 0 BB 9k

going to miss him


Wow.
Don't forget  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 8:08 pm : link
his new Warthen Slider
Tejada is still only 25 years old  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 8:09 pm : link
How great it would be for both he and the Mets if he turns around his career and we see more of what we saw his first couple of seasons from him from here on out.

He was very young and was following a star in Reyes, he very well maybe took it all for granted. I don't think he will ever take it for granted again.

RE: This is what we envisioned  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 8:11 pm : link
In comment 12390035 Headhunter said:
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when they made the Dickey trade. It actually happened


I thought most expectation at the time of the trade was for TDA and Thor was the extra player.
RE: after 2012  
arcarsenal : 7/28/2015 8:11 pm : link
In comment 12390039 pjcas18 said:
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I wanted to like Tejada. he had a really good season for a 22 year old.

but he was publicly trashed by the FO in 2013 for coming in out of shape and not working hard and since then he's been a whipping boy (and he's deserved it), but you have to admit he's playing well lately.


Yeah me too. Times were rough enough back then that I actually really was excited about him and thought he could be a really good SS. Things have changed a bit since but he's still very young.
steve  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 8:15 pm : link
I thought Wuilmer Bercerra was the extra player and he is slowly developing into a major prospect
RE: steve  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 8:17 pm : link
In comment 12390070 Headhunter said:
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I thought Wuilmer Bercerra was the extra player and he is slowly developing into a major prospect


He was the throw in (grin)
.  
steve in ky : 7/28/2015 8:17 pm : link
Noah is really in a nice groove tonight
Fulmer  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 8:18 pm : link
era 1.88
RE: RE: This is what we envisioned  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 8:19 pm : link
In comment 12390064 steve in ky said:
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In comment 12390035 Headhunter said:


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when they made the Dickey trade. It actually happened



I thought most expectation at the time of the trade was for TDA and Thor was the extra player.


No. Syndergaard was a main component. TDA was already agreed. Sandy was insisting on Syndergaard. Blue Jays tried to get Sandy to go for other players and Sandy stayed stead fast and said he wanted Syndergaard. Beccerra was the third upside prospect. I still can't believe that trade actually.
This is getting  
Headhunter : 7/28/2015 8:22 pm : link
interesting
the boy is dealing  
ShocknAwe80 : 7/28/2015 8:22 pm : link
WOW!
ummm....  
speedywheels : 7/28/2015 8:23 pm : link
this is an......interesting start so far for Thor
.  
ZGiants98 : 7/28/2015 8:24 pm : link
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