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NYDN: Giants training camp: Four sleepers to watch

Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/28/2015 4:56 pm
Cunningham, Ellis, Taylor, Wynn.
Giants training camp: Four sleepers to watch - ( New Window )
i'm big on taylor too  
area junc : 7/28/2015 4:59 pm : link
he was playing a very smart, physical brand of football last year
Hope  
pjcas18 : 7/28/2015 5:02 pm : link
Taylor can stay healthy. Feel like he's been here a while and we have rarely seen him.

This is his 3rd year already.

if these four players  
sundayatone : 7/28/2015 5:05 pm : link
are big contributors we may be able to get some meaningful dec games.
Ellis and Wynn are not much as sleepers go  
Torrag : 7/28/2015 5:16 pm : link
They are squarely on the radar of most serious Giants fans. Cooper is only under the radar because he's been oft injured. Most third year guys are a known quantity. It's not necessarily a good thing most regular Giants fans don't know who he is.
Ellis and Wynn may both START day 1  
SGMen : 7/28/2015 5:33 pm : link
I do not believe Eli will be a Giant by final cutdown. I think the money allocated to him will go to Eli and any other STRONG camp players the Giants may approach for extension like Ayers, Ellis, Robinson, etc.

If we were to sign Eli, Prince, Ellis to longer-term deals with that money I'd be ecstatic!
RE: Ellis and Wynn may both START day 1  
81_Great_Dane : 7/28/2015 5:46 pm : link
In comment 12389760 SGMen said:
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I do not believe Eli will be a Giant by final cutdown.

Can't wait to learn what you actually meant to say.
RE: RE: Ellis and Wynn may both START day 1  
odunde : 7/28/2015 6:11 pm : link
In comment 12389778 81_Great_Dane said:
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In comment 12389760 SGMen said:


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I do not believe Eli will be a Giant by final cutdown.


Can't wait to learn what you actually meant to say.


gotta be JPP, right?
I can't get excited about Taylor  
Bill in UT : 7/28/2015 6:53 pm : link
until I see him stay healthy, which I don't expect
I like Ellis, but  
Bleedin Blue : 7/28/2015 7:00 pm : link
Fear he'll go the way of Matellus Bennett. I wish we had an option for year 2.
Taylor has to stay healthy to have a breakout year. I hope that Spags can work his manic and get a good performance from all the defense!!
^^^^^^^^^  
Bleedin Blue : 7/28/2015 7:01 pm : link
MAGIC!!!! Ugh!!
If Wynn is counted on  
Doomster : 7/28/2015 7:04 pm : link
as a starter, this defense is in trouble....

In fact, with JPP out of the line, teams will concentrate on Hankins, and the only pass rush will come from blitz schemes....

The only thing that can turn this around, is if we get major contributions from Bromley, Moore, OO, and Elis.....if Jenkins can somehow contribute one more year, and Selvie and Ayers can make a few plays, it might not be so bad.....at this moment in time, the Giant DL is the worst in the division...
RE: I like Ellis, but  
Toth029 : 7/28/2015 7:30 pm : link
In comment 12389938 Bleedin Blue said:
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Fear he'll go the way of Matellus Bennett. I wish we had an option for year 2.
Taylor has to stay healthy to have a breakout year. I hope that Spags can work his manic and get a good performance from all the defense!!

Easier to re-sign a run-stuffing DT than a two way threat TE these days. He's not like Dan Williams or Terrance Knighton who have this experience for several seasons and have done well in doing so. I'm not overly worried for him.
RE: If Wynn is counted on  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 7/28/2015 11:46 pm : link
In comment 12389948 Doomster said:
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as a starter, this defense is in trouble....

In fact, with JPP out of the line, teams will concentrate on Hankins, and the only pass rush will come from blitz schemes....

The only thing that can turn this around, is if we get major contributions from Bromley, Moore, OO, and Elis.....if Jenkins can somehow contribute one more year, and Selvie and Ayers can make a few plays, it might not be so bad.....at this moment in time, the Giant DL is the worst in the division...


I wouldn't count Wynn out. In the limited time we saw him, he played pretty darn well. Problem was it was a small sample size.
RE: If Wynn is counted on  
Big Blue Blogger : 7/29/2015 7:06 am : link
Doomster said:
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...at this moment in time, the Giant DL is the worst in the division...

Even without Pierre-Paul, the Giants' DL is better on paper than the Cowboys'. Maybe Gregory and Lawrence will become stars, but you could say the same thing about Moore and Odighizuwa. Mincey (JaG) led them in sacks last year with six, and he's holding out. I wouldn't trade Hankins to Dallas for any two of their defensive linemen.

I know, I know - the Giants signed Selvie, whom the Cowboys allowed to walk. Big deal. He's just one piece of the DE rotation, and might not even be a very important one. Look at the total picture.
The Redskins' line doesn't scare me either.  
Big Blue Blogger : 7/29/2015 7:21 am : link
Comparisons are tricky because their base is a 3-4 and their best pass-rusher by far (Kerrigan) plays OLB. He's coming off knee surgery, the three down linemen are nothing special and Preston Smith is just another young question mark.
As for the putative 'sleepers'...  
Big Blue Blogger : 7/29/2015 7:42 am : link
...Ellis is more of a presumptive starter than a sleeper. He certainly figures to be an important rotational player. I think Cunningham can bump Fells off the roster, but they still need a TE who can block. Here's hoping Robinson can handle that role (and more). Taylor and Wynn are in the thick of camp competition at their positions, and have already gotten some breaks in the form of injuries to other players.
Taylor  
5BowlsSoon : 7/29/2015 12:32 pm : link
I will believe it when I see it. If he makes it out of training camp not in street clothes I will be impressed.
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