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NFT: Padres v Mets Wed 7/29 @ 7:10:

sphinx : 7/29/2015 4:35 pm
Granderson RF
Murphy 3B
Johnson 2B
Duda 1B
Conforto LF
Nieuwenhuis CF
Flores SS
Recker C
Colon P

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I think Conforto  
Rflairr : 7/29/2015 4:39 pm : link
would look good in that 2 spot
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sphinx : 7/29/2015 4:44 pm : link
Joel Sherman:
A second source confirmed #Tigers open for biz on all walk-yr players: Price, Cespedes, Avila, Soria, Rajai Davis. Changes the market

Price is biggest piece. Could hurt #Phillies attempt to get Hamels done. #Yankees #Dodgers #Astros #Bluejays #Cubs #Sfgiants are Price mkt

#Mets get associated with Cespedes but wonder if Rajai Davis more realistic get from #Tigers
Davis plays all 3 OF spots, can start for Grandy v. tough LH, adds speed element off bench #Mets lack.



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sphinx : 7/29/2015 4:49 pm : link
Anthony DiComo retweeted Matthew Everett
A legitimate question re: win now philosophy. My suspicion is because you're going to see Verrett as a spot starter. Anthony DiComo added,

Matthew Everett @Matthew_Everett
@AnthonyDiComo Then why is A. Torres still on the roster and not Verrett?
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Anthony DiComo
Terry Collins has made it very clear: this isn't about who's the best option in 2016, etc. It's about who can help win the most games NOW.

FYI for out-of-towners w/o baseball package ...  
sphinx : 7/29/2015 5:16 pm : link
Nats v Mets on Fri 7/31 will be on MLBN @ 7:10 (Gio Gonzalez vs Matt Harvey}

Nats v Mets on Sun 8/2 will be on ESPN @ 8:00 (Jordan Zimmermann vs Noah Syndergaard}



RE: ........................  
Shecky : 7/29/2015 5:17 pm : link
In comment 12392164 sphinx said:
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Anthony DiComo retweeted Matthew Everett
A legitimate question re: win now philosophy. My suspicion is because you're going to see Verrett as a spot starter. Anthony DiComo added,

Matthew Everett @Matthew_Everett
@AnthonyDiComo Then why is A. Torres still on the roster and not Verrett?
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Anthony DiComo
Terry Collins has made it very clear: this isn't about who's the best option in 2016, etc. It's about who can help win the most games NOW.


With that said, please ask that very same question a second time...
Great  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 5:45 pm : link
Mike Puma ✔ @NYPost_Mets
Source says there has been "much" recent talk between the Mets and Brewers.

Only two possibilities here. Gomez or Parra. Ill take either and be pretty damn happy.
RE: Great  
Rflairr : 7/29/2015 5:52 pm : link
In comment 12392256 ZGiants98 said:
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Mike Puma ✔ @NYPost_Mets
Source says there has been "much" recent talk between the Mets and Brewers.

Only two possibilities here. Gomez or Parra. Ill take either and be pretty damn happy.


If its Gomez, I wonder if they can get them to accept Lagares in the trade. His extension looks like a disaster right now.
Half a year in and with a bum elbow is far too early to start reacting  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/29/2015 5:54 pm : link
to Lagares.
RE: RE: Great  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 5:55 pm : link
In comment 12392263 Rflairr said:
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In comment 12392256 ZGiants98 said:


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Mike Puma ✔ @NYPost_Mets
Source says there has been "much" recent talk between the Mets and Brewers.

Only two possibilities here. Gomez or Parra. Ill take either and be pretty damn happy.



If its Gomez, I wonder if they can get them to accept Lagares in the trade. His extension looks like a disaster right now.


Ive long hoped that in a Gomez trade Lagares would be going the other way. If the deal is for Parra Im cool keeping Lagares because he's ok against lefties and we would need his defense late in games. I also still think Lagares/Nimmo could work out in 2016 in a platoon. But yeah, if Gomez is our new CF for the next 14 months or so ship Lagares out.
I hope  
spike : 7/29/2015 5:59 pm : link
we get the good Colon tonight and keep the win streak going
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sphinx : 7/29/2015 6:00 pm : link
Mike Puma ‏@NYPost_Mets 2 hours ago
Was told the Mets aren't in on Cespedes at this point.


Colon has got to keep the train going  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 6:01 pm : link
Ron and others feel that like Harvey, he is much better on a normal 5 days rest. He was really good his last outing. Lets hope this continues a little longer.
I think it's premature to judge the Lagares deal  
Torrag : 7/29/2015 6:02 pm : link
He's gutting it out with one arm. He's trying to stay available to help the team. He probably should have been shut down already.
Not exactly muderers row.  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 6:03 pm : link
PADRES

Will Venable, CF

Yangervis Solarte, 3B

Matt Kemp, RF

Justin Upton, LF

Yonder Alonso, 1B

Jedd Gyorko, 2B

Alexi Amarista, SS

Austin Hedges, C

Tyson Ross, P
Our only starter that prefers and benefits from the extra day is Niese  
Torrag : 7/29/2015 6:03 pm : link
His numbers are radically better on six days rest.
Kemp and Upton are having subpar seasons...  
Torrag : 7/29/2015 6:05 pm : link
...but for their careers they are better hitters than anyone in our lineup save possibly Granderson.
The problem with Upton  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 6:07 pm : link
is he has been completely lost for two months. Like "Duda lost" before he just hit the three homeruns. Not sure you give up prospects for a 2 month rental that also couldn't hit a beach ball with a whiffle bat right now.

Kemp isn't even a remote possibility.

Puma  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 6:09 pm : link
Mike Puma ✔

@NYPost_Mets

Was told I can rule out the Mets getting Cespedes; Talks with Brewers don't appear focused on Gomez.
Parra and K-Rod  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 6:10 pm : link
for Fulmer and lets go to war.
Upton has more of a legitimate track record than Duda.  
arcarsenal : 7/29/2015 6:10 pm : link
I think this might be a really good chance to "buy low" on him and then try to lock him up. I am pretty confident he's going to bust out of his funk.
RE: Upton has more of a legitimate track record than Duda.  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 6:12 pm : link
In comment 12392289 arcarsenal said:
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I think this might be a really good chance to "buy low" on him and then try to lock him up. I am pretty confident he's going to bust out of his funk.


Yeah I had a similar sentiment earlier. I do it for sure but not for huge prospects. Somebody like Montero maybe.
Upton's impending free agency might be in his head  
Torrag : 7/29/2015 6:19 pm : link
He's 33 points below his career low OPS this season. That in turn is 15 points below his previous low. I'd still push real hard for him before committing to Parra. He's more talented and has had the better career.

On the flip side Parra is a better fit to bat leadoff and contribute in CF.

Both catapult us into position to win a playoff spot. If Upton gets hot he could be the catalyst we need to contend for a championship.
The idea Upton could be had for Montero is laughable  
Torrag : 7/29/2015 6:21 pm : link
Current struggles aside that isn't a realistic offer.
.  
Rflairr : 7/29/2015 6:29 pm : link
Jerry Crasnick ‏@jcrasnick
A MLB exec on Gerardo Parra: "I wonder if the Brewers over-played their hand on him. I just expected him to be gone by now.''

Jerry Crasnick ‏@jcrasnick
#Mets leverage with Parra and Will Venable enhanced by other deals. #Royals and #Angels no longer have openings for LH OF bats.
RE: The idea Upton could be had for Montero is laughable  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 6:33 pm : link
In comment 12392302 Torrag said:
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Current struggles aside that isn't a realistic offer.


OK maestro. lol. This from a guy that just admitted he knows next to nothing about our farm system.
Ugh, enough with Venable.  
arcarsenal : 7/29/2015 6:34 pm : link
Everyone knows my stance on needing to make one more move and I'd rather do absolutely nothing than trade something for him.
Upton has been worst player in baseball  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 6:35 pm : link
bad for almost two whole months. Parra very likely is a bigger addition to this team for this year. Both are rentals.
RE: Ugh, enough with Venable.  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 6:36 pm : link
In comment 12392316 arcarsenal said:
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Everyone knows my stance on needing to make one more move and I'd rather do absolutely nothing than trade something for him.


Well the bigger piece in that is simply that Kirk is likely better if he's hitting again. Venable isn't terrible but Krik had a wRC+ of 130 last year and plays a stellar CF.
Another made up stat  
Headhunter : 7/29/2015 6:39 pm : link
Noah Syndergaard has the lowest ERA after 7 games at 1.46 in Mets history
As usual you attempt to misrepresent the facts  
Torrag : 7/29/2015 6:39 pm : link
That's your MO and probably a side effect of your meds.

Valuations on position prospects is tricky when they are in the early development stages. It doesn't surprise me you consider yourself an expert. I await your hiring as a MLB executive with baited breath. You let us know when to forward the congratulatory note.
At home  
Headhunter : 7/29/2015 6:39 pm : link
I forgot to add
RE: Another made up stat  
spike : 7/29/2015 6:41 pm : link
In comment 12392325 Headhunter said:
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Noah Syndergaard has the lowest ERA after 7 games at 1.46 in Mets history


He should be in the conversation for NL ROY esp if the Mets make it to the postseason
Going to be a long 48 hours  
Eric on Li : 7/29/2015 6:42 pm : link
Adam RubinVerified account
‏@AdamRubinESPN
#Mets still working on a deal that apparently would really please fans if it materialized.
RE: As usual you attempt to misrepresent the facts  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 6:43 pm : link
In comment 12392326 Torrag said:
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That's your MO and probably a side effect of your meds.

Valuations on position prospects is tricky when they are in the early development stages. It doesn't surprise me you consider yourself an expert. I await your hiring as a MLB executive with baited breath. You let us know when to forward the congratulatory note.


Who the fuck are you even talking about? Upton? Parra? What an embarrassment you have become to yourself and everyone here. Completely pathetic. Im glad Ive had such an effect on you though.. Thats clearly rewarding in its own right.
RE: Going to be a long 48 hours  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 6:44 pm : link
In comment 12392335 Eric on Li said:
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Adam RubinVerified account
‏@AdamRubinESPN
#Mets still working on a deal that apparently would really please fans if it materialized.


Thats exciting. Sounds like MORE than Parra then. Could it be Gomez?
If there was any point to it I'd challenge you...  
Torrag : 7/29/2015 6:44 pm : link
..to find a single credible source that shares the opinion that Rafael Montero for a Justin Upton rental would get the deal done.

The problem is it's so stupid and unrealistic only you could come up with it.
My gut keeps telling me it's Upton.  
arcarsenal : 7/29/2015 6:44 pm : link
I don't know why.

That tweet doesn't make me feel like it's Parra. Maybe the Brewers saw how they potentially overplayed their hand on Parra and are going to lower the ask on Gomez
RE: If there was any point to it I'd challenge you...  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 6:46 pm : link
In comment 12392339 Torrag said:
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..to find a single credible source that shares the opinion that Rafael Montero for a Justin Upton rental would get the deal done.

The problem is it's so stupid and unrealistic only you could come up with it.


We were talking about a fucking "buy low" you moron. Anything MORE than Montero level prospects is no longer a "buy low" but once again your reading comprehension is on par with a third grader.
If it's Upton or Gomez then we landed a 'big fish'...  
Torrag : 7/29/2015 6:47 pm : link
Parra is a solid get but not on the level of those two.
RE: My gut keeps telling me it's Upton.  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 6:48 pm : link
In comment 12392340 arcarsenal said:
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I don't know why.

That tweet doesn't make me feel like it's Parra. Maybe the Brewers saw how they potentially overplayed their hand on Parra and are going to lower the ask on Gomez


Really think Upton is the guy thats going to get us all excited though? Id like him in the mix and hope for the best but he's been TERRIBLE. I know I wouldn't be throwing a party thats for sure.
RE: My gut keeps telling me it's Upton.  
Eric on Li : 7/29/2015 6:48 pm : link
In comment 12392340 arcarsenal said:
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I don't know why.

That tweet doesn't make me feel like it's Parra. Maybe the Brewers saw how they potentially overplayed their hand on Parra and are going to lower the ask on Gomez


I think Upton is definitely in play for us. Sandy has wanted him going back to AZ days. For his career he's the best pure hitter available, though the possible oblique injury is concerning. Just not sure where we'd play him.
Yeah I think he's in play too  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 6:50 pm : link
Ive long said Sandy LOVES him, but is that the BIG move that gets the fan base excited?? I don't know. Maybe if they sign him to an extension or something. He's been so bad for 2 months now I wouldn't be over the moon if we got him. Id probably be at least as excited if we got Parra if not more.
Z...  
arcarsenal : 7/29/2015 6:52 pm : link
I think Met fans would be pretty excited if Justin Upton was heading to Queens. Realistically, I would think he, Bruce and Gomez are the 3 guys who would really "excite" fans. People would be happy about Parra but it'd be a notch below.

I don't know if Cespedes is in play or not but I think the reports that we're out on him are probably pretty legit. Doesn't seem like a fit.

There could be a dark horse player out there though.. it could be none of those guys. I really don't know.

I am just really happy that Sandy is clearly trying to make something happen here and feel confident we are getting one more bat.
Position with Upton is a concern with the logjam at the COF spots  
Torrag : 7/29/2015 6:52 pm : link
Z you're probably the only Met fan alive that wouldn't get excited over a Justin Upton deal. You're embarrassing yourself.
The big trade  
spike : 7/29/2015 6:53 pm : link
Will cost us Zack Wheeler
yeah...  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 6:55 pm : link
Justin Upton wRC+ 113 and marred in a historically laughable cold streak.

Gerardo Parra wRC+ 140 and currently raging hot.

Torrag just mentions Montero as an overpay for Para but its laughable when referring to a "buy low" he could be included for a package for Upton.

Seems consistent.
Spike Wheeler is the one expendable arm  
Torrag : 7/29/2015 6:56 pm : link
He's not available dee[ into nmext season with hsi rehab. Harvey, DeGrom and Thor have all passed him imo. Matz is ready. Fulmer should both be in contention for a rotation spot next year.
RE: Z...  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 6:58 pm : link
In comment 12392351 arcarsenal said:
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I think Met fans would be pretty excited if Justin Upton was heading to Queens. Realistically, I would think he, Bruce and Gomez are the 3 guys who would really "excite" fans. People would be happy about Parra but it'd be a notch below.

I don't know if Cespedes is in play or not but I think the reports that we're out on him are probably pretty legit. Doesn't seem like a fit.

There could be a dark horse player out there though.. it could be none of those guys. I really don't know.

I am just really happy that Sandy is clearly trying to make something happen here and feel confident we are getting one more bat.


Id agree with you if Upton was hitting. I have to put him a notch below Gomez, Tulo, Cespedes types currently however until he busts out. Id probably have him and Parra about even(again considering the brutal slump) Like I said. A great buy low, and Id love to add him to the mix, but not sure Id be doing cartwheels as bad as he's been.
Keep comparing Parra and Upton as players Z  
Torrag : 7/29/2015 6:59 pm : link
Your digging your own grave. What little credibility you had is evaporating.
RE: Position with Upton is a concern with the logjam at the COF spots  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 6:59 pm : link
In comment 12392352 Torrag said:
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Z you're probably the only Met fan alive that wouldn't get excited over a Justin Upton deal. You're embarrassing yourself.


Oh Im glad after using the word embarrassment when describing your behavior lately you thought outside of the box and said I was embarrassing myself. LOL
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