He was a great kid who worked his ass off to do something nobody said he could do, play SS, and he did it. I will root for both he and Wheeler for the rest of their careers.
If Lucas wasn't so unspeakably inconsistent, he'd be an all star
In comment 12392842 Rflairr said:Quote:Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Asked official involved with Gomez trade why Flores is still in game. Reply: No deal is done. The entire world has jumped the gun.
Entire world my ass. F'in paparazzi media blowhard f'ed up the call, not the whole world.
The "F'in paparazzi media blowhard" have stated "pending review of medical records". What part of that don't you comprehend? That said, did they really have to keep Flores in the game?
So you're at fault as part of the whole world? I didn't make the call, I'm sure you didn't. Yahoo, etc all stated the trade was complete. Maybe you should try understanding and that would answer why Flores was still in the game.
He could. On the other hand if he gets Tommy John he could be back towards the end of next year and Gomez might be done here after 2016 anyway. Maybe he reclaims his job in 2017.
In comment 12392873 sphinx said:Quote:In comment 12392860 Giants2012 said:Quote: In comment 12392842 Rflairr said:Quote:Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Asked official involved with Gomez trade why Flores is still in game. Reply: No deal is done. The entire world has jumped the gun.
Entire world my ass. F'in paparazzi media blowhard f'ed up the call, not the whole world.
The "F'in paparazzi media blowhard" have stated "pending review of medical records". What part of that don't you comprehend? That said, did they really have to keep Flores in the game?
So you're at fault as part of the whole world? I didn't make the call, I'm sure you didn't. Yahoo, etc all stated the trade was complete. Maybe you should try understanding and that would answer why Flores was still in the game.
Yahoo Sports, 1 hour ago ... The New York Mets on Wednesday night reached agreement to acquire Milwaukee Brewers center fielder Carlos Gomez as the trading deadline approached, sources told Yahoo Sports. [...] The cost for Gomez is expected to be 25-year-old right-hander Zack Wheeler, who is recovering from Tommy John surgery, and 23-year-old infielder Wilmer Flores. [...] The deal had not been announced as of mid-evening Wednesday, as the teams continued to review medical records. [...]
He could. On the other hand if he gets Tommy John he could be back towards the end of next year and Gomez might be done here after 2016 anyway. Maybe he reclaims his job in 2017.
don't think tj surgery takes 12 months for non pitchers
He could. On the other hand if he gets Tommy John he could be back towards the end of next year and Gomez might be done here after 2016 anyway. Maybe he reclaims his job in 2017.
That's a good point. But they seem to be going for it now so maybe they look to get one more piece to help them now and he would be expendable at this point.
The Uribe/KJ move left him nowhere to play and we had 4 players splitting time at 2 positions.. which could have turned into 5 if Wright returns. This doesn't even mention Herrera in the wings.
The idea that trading away Flores cancels out acquiring Gomez and that we have to somehow trade for ANOTHER bat is laughable.
What I read, what was all over the net and announced on abc,wfan commercial and the Yankee broadcast was the deal was done. There was no mention of any medical anything.
RE: RE: RE: I wonder if Sandy looks to trade Lagares?
He could. On the other hand if he gets Tommy John he could be back towards the end of next year and Gomez might be done here after 2016 anyway. Maybe he reclaims his job in 2017.
don't think tj surgery takes 12 months for non pitchers
It doesn't. 8 months more likely but he probably wouldn't be back in peak form until the all-star break anyway I wouldn't think.
The Uribe/KJ move left him nowhere to play and we had 4 players splitting time at 2 positions.. which could have turned into 5 if Wright returns. This doesn't even mention Herrera in the wings.
The idea that trading away Flores cancels out acquiring Gomez and that we have to somehow trade for ANOTHER bat is laughable.
Agreed. We traded a guy currently on the bench for a guy who is most likely now the best player on the team.
if Sandy is done. Giving up Wheeler + we better be going for it now. Might as well bring in a Brad Miller to play SS with Flores or something like that.
just in case. Missing the first few months of next season is not a big deal and I guess he's still depth for this season. Could even put him on the 15 day DL to let him rest a little bit. Not a bad 4th/5th OFer for rest of the season.
Let him have the surgery and heal up. He was a legitimate asset in 2014. He just needs to get right. If we don't hang onto Gomez beyond 2016, it will be good to still have Lagares.
RE: Also I have no issue letting Lagares wait for offseason surgery
just in case. Missing the first few months of next season is not a big deal and I guess he's still depth for this season. Could even put him on the 15 day DL to let him rest a little bit. Not a bad 4th/5th OFer for rest of the season.
Agreed. There isn't a rush for Lagares to be ready for the start of the season anymore. With Gomez he can take his time so either way works. I am curious about Kirk. You would think Gomez takes his spot and Kirk is gone unless they DL Lagares right away.
sounds like they are making him a platoon/bench guy for now. That's probably the right call, no reason to have him miss potentially important games when he can otherwise miss the offseason/early season games.
Maybe you can get Rollins? or Alexei Ramirez? I'm just hoping for anything better than Tovar/Quintinilla.
Not sure if the Mariners would trade Miller anymore but he's having a pretty good season. Would be an ideal target I think. Would probably cost a lot though. I don't know. Tejada has been pretty good too. Maybe we just need a better backup.
They showed someone walk up to terry before the wilmer crying thing. Also think the comment about "i sob sometimes in the 3rd inning but i gotta keep going" was a bit douchey.
haha fans gave Flores a standing O and Collins didn't know why
Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 1h1 hour ago
Was told #Brewers asked for Dilson Herrera and #Mets refused since already were including Wheeler. Accepted Flores as 2d item
Wimers ovation, gary announced the deal and they showed david come from in the clubhouse and tell Terry something and even gary and keith were wondering if david told him what he heard on the tv in the clubhouse
TC getting mad at the fans and media is stupid, but
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In comment 12392842 Rflairr said:Quote:Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Asked official involved with Gomez trade why Flores is still in game. Reply: No deal is done. The entire world has jumped the gun.
Entire world my ass. F'in paparazzi media blowhard f'ed up the call, not the whole world.
The "F'in paparazzi media blowhard" have stated "pending review of medical records". What part of that don't you comprehend? That said, did they really have to keep Flores in the game?
So you're at fault as part of the whole world? I didn't make the call, I'm sure you didn't. Yahoo, etc all stated the trade was complete. Maybe you should try understanding and that would answer why Flores was still in the game.
Conforto
Murphy
Duda
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Granderson
Uribe
Tejada
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So the Mets improved a bat yet lost one. So they still need another bat to really improve.
2 Murphy 2B
3 Wright 3B
4 Duda 1B
5 D'arnaud C
6 Granderson RF
7 Conforto LF
8 Tejada SS
He could. On the other hand if he gets Tommy John he could be back towards the end of next year and Gomez might be done here after 2016 anyway. Maybe he reclaims his job in 2017.
Asked official involved with Gomez trade why Flores is still in game. Reply: No deal is done. The entire world has jumped the gun.
Entire world my ass. F'in paparazzi media blowhard f'ed up the call, not the whole world.
The "F'in paparazzi media blowhard" have stated "pending review of medical records". What part of that don't you comprehend? That said, did they really have to keep Flores in the game?
So you're at fault as part of the whole world? I didn't make the call, I'm sure you didn't. Yahoo, etc all stated the trade was complete. Maybe you should try understanding and that would answer why Flores was still in the game.
Yahoo Sports, 1 hour ago ...
The New York Mets on Wednesday night reached agreement to acquire Milwaukee Brewers center fielder Carlos Gomez as the trading deadline approached, sources told Yahoo Sports. [...] The cost for Gomez is expected to be 25-year-old right-hander Zack Wheeler, who is recovering from Tommy John surgery, and 23-year-old infielder Wilmer Flores. [...] The deal had not been announced as of mid-evening Wednesday, as the teams continued to review medical records. [...]
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2 Murphy 2B
3 Wright 3B
4 Duda 1B
5 D'arnaud C
6 Granderson RF
7 Conforto LF
8 Tejada SS
Granderson is there best hitter. 2, 3, or 4 for him.
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He could. On the other hand if he gets Tommy John he could be back towards the end of next year and Gomez might be done here after 2016 anyway. Maybe he reclaims his job in 2017.
don't think tj surgery takes 12 months for non pitchers
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He could. On the other hand if he gets Tommy John he could be back towards the end of next year and Gomez might be done here after 2016 anyway. Maybe he reclaims his job in 2017.
That's a good point. But they seem to be going for it now so maybe they look to get one more piece to help them now and he would be expendable at this point.
The idea that trading away Flores cancels out acquiring Gomez and that we have to somehow trade for ANOTHER bat is laughable.
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He could. On the other hand if he gets Tommy John he could be back towards the end of next year and Gomez might be done here after 2016 anyway. Maybe he reclaims his job in 2017.
don't think tj surgery takes 12 months for non pitchers
It doesn't. 8 months more likely but he probably wouldn't be back in peak form until the all-star break anyway I wouldn't think.
The idea that trading away Flores cancels out acquiring Gomez and that we have to somehow trade for ANOTHER bat is laughable.
Agreed. We traded a guy currently on the bench for a guy who is most likely now the best player on the team.
Yeah exactly. Thats what Im thinking.
The kid needs his elbow fixed before playing anymore baseball IMO. I think the injury has effected his swing as much as his throwing.
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2 Murphy 2B
3 Wright 3B
4 Duda 1B
5 D'arnaud C
6 Granderson RF
7 Conforto LF
8 Tejada SS
Granderson is there best hitter. 2, 3, or 4 for him.
Switch Granderson and Murphy then. Thats a damn impressive lineup though. With Cuddyer, Uribe, Johnson, and Plawecki on the bench?? Wow.
Agreed. There isn't a rush for Lagares to be ready for the start of the season anymore. With Gomez he can take his time so either way works. I am curious about Kirk. You would think Gomez takes his spot and Kirk is gone unless they DL Lagares right away.
I hope Sandy makes one more deal. There is not benefit in waiting.
I hope Sandy makes one more deal. There is not benefit in waiting.
Yeah. I mean the trading deadline is an A+ for me. Cant ask for anything more but what the hell? We came this far? Go get a SS too. lol.
What's he saying?
I don't get it:
Collins: "You guys think this game is easy to play? Play it with s--- like that going on in the background." #Mets
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"Someone came to me, 'Wilmer's crying.'" Terry Collins said. At that point Collins had no idea about a trade.
Not sure if the Mariners would trade Miller anymore but he's having a pretty good season. Would be an ideal target I think. Would probably cost a lot though. I don't know. Tejada has been pretty good too. Maybe we just need a better backup.
"There was nothing I knew about. Why would I take him out of the game?" Terry Collins said.
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What's he saying?
You have to listen to really appreciate but being asked about Wilmer crying the trade and he says he doesn't know what going on.
Said someone comes up to him and says Wilmer is crying and he said "what for" and they said he got traded, he says "For who?"
Another rant about fans watching on their phones and why even bother coming to the game, Kind of all over the place.
He is also saying that right now there is no deal that he is aware of.
"I don't even know why people come anymore, they watch the game on their cell phone."
Was told #Brewers asked for Dilson Herrera and #Mets refused since already were including Wheeler. Accepted Flores as 2d item
I would call it more exasperation at the situation then his being mad. At least that was my take on it.