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NFT: Mets trade for Carlos Gomez

ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 9:06 pm
Wheeler and Flores going the other way.

Adam Rubin & #8207;@AdamRubinESPN 6m6 minutes ago
Zack Wheeler and Wilmer Flores going to #Brewers for Carlos Gomez, according to Daily News.
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That's a fair trade  
Vanzetti : 7/29/2015 9:10 pm : link
considering Wheeler is injured

I have a higher opinion than most of Wheeler. I think his fastball has great movement. But like arc said, you don't really get the real Wheeler until 2017
That is an insanely bad deal for the Mets  
dpinzow : 7/29/2015 9:10 pm : link
Wheeler & Flores? Way too much
Nice get  
JoeyBigBlue : 7/29/2015 9:10 pm : link
You get a really good CF, leaving Granderson and Conforto in the corners. Sucks losing Wheeler who I think can be a real good No. 2 to at worst a Solid 3. But you have give talent to a acquire talent.
Its a tough pill to swallow  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 9:12 pm : link
but with the emergence of Fulmer he may have never had a roster spot. I think Wheeler is going to be a very solid pitcher. Hell, I still think Flores is going to be a 20 HR bat somewhere in the infield also. Mets had to do this though.
Whoa  
GMenLTS : 7/29/2015 9:14 pm : link
haven't been paying closely lately so I did not see this coming at all.

I can dig it. Don't like giving up Wilmer this soon but hard to argue against this kind of deal.
Good trade  
BeerFridge : 7/29/2015 9:15 pm : link
I think, at least.
I don't think it's a bad trade  
moespree : 7/29/2015 9:15 pm : link
I actually think it's quite fair for both sides. Gomez is under control for next season, Wheeler probably won't even play until the middle of the season (if even that) and Flores is who knows. Wheeler is probably the 5th starter on this team if and when he came back.
This...  
Torrag : 7/29/2015 9:17 pm : link
Quote:
Wheeler is probably the 5th starter on this team if and when he came back.


Bats are the priority for the Mets. This is a big one to bring to the lineup everyday.
and Niese breathes a sigh of relief  
Vanzetti : 7/29/2015 9:18 pm : link
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tough to lose one of our five young aces  
spike : 7/29/2015 9:18 pm : link
but if we get an All Star Carlos Gomez, we will take it.

Flores wasn't going to get much playing time in NY.
Wheeler hurts  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 9:20 pm : link
But Flores wasn't going to have a spot here. Also, another way to look at this is we got a huge piece without giving up a single prospect. Everyone is still in tact. Conforto, Nimmo, Cecchini, Fulmer, Herrera, Smith, ect.
I think  
spike : 7/29/2015 9:21 pm : link
Sandy is done with phone calls after this trade.
I think Fulmer will slot into Wheeler's spot very soon...  
Torrag : 7/29/2015 9:22 pm : link
Another really talented young arm in the Mets system.
Why is flores  
Fish : 7/29/2015 9:29 pm : link
Still in game for,mets?
Wonder if its really  
Rflairr : 7/29/2015 9:29 pm : link
done. Because Flores is still in the game.
Knowing the mets luck  
SJGiant : 7/29/2015 9:29 pm : link
Flores gets injured while still playing. Trade gets voided
Yeah me too  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 9:30 pm : link
Gonna be tough watching Wheeler head up there rotation though and see Flores hitting 20 HR a year for the next 6 years. Great move for us today but in a couple years we might end up hating playing the Brewers. lol.
RE: Wonder if its really  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 9:31 pm : link
In comment 12392758 Rflairr said:
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done. Because Flores is still in the game.


Apparently reviewing medical records so its not official.
Wheeler just threw for the first time...  
Torrag : 7/29/2015 9:33 pm : link
...it appears his rehab is going well. Probably just dotting I's and crossing T's so no one looks stupid later on.
that's  
blue42 : 7/29/2015 9:35 pm : link
a great deal....Wheeler wasn't part of the plan and as much as I like Flores Gomez can do some things we haven't seen here in a long time.
Back from dinner with Fam and wow  
Giants2012 : 7/29/2015 9:36 pm : link
Lot of activity across the MLB land.

Have to think about this trade. Sad to see Flores go.

Waldman speaking during the Yankee broadcast that more is expected to happen at Citi Field. Not sure if somebody is in her ear or she's she just acting nuts again.

..  
Rflairr : 7/29/2015 9:44 pm : link
Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan
Source: If Mets trade for Carlos Gomez does come to fruition, Juan Lagares expected to go to the Brewers. Name has been prominent in talks.

Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan
Another source says Juan Lagares is not in current incarnation of Mets talks with Brewers in potential Carlos Gomez deal. So there's that.
Feel for Flores  
Stufftherun : 7/29/2015 9:46 pm : link
and I always find it a little odd bringing a player back that was our property. Hope Gomez can stay healthy and continue to be an all-star caliber player.
Lagares will have massive value when he gets healthy  
Deej : 7/29/2015 9:47 pm : link
He'll be turned around for Flores+ value.
Why wouldn't you get  
Rflairr : 7/29/2015 9:48 pm : link
a guy like Tejada in the game? Because at least you have a guy
whos head would be in the game
At a certain point you need to use one of your big chips  
steve in ky : 7/29/2015 9:49 pm : link
if you are going to acquire real talent and have a better chance of making a run. With the Nats having a less stellar than expected season it makes perfect sense to push some chips in and go for it.

Wheeler is a long way away from helping on the field and at some point someone has to be deemed a surplus. Add to that the fact that you still never know 100% how a pitcher comes back from surgery I think this was a smart risk in trading him. Flores was given his chance and really had no place here with Herrra likely the best option at 2nd for the future. Maybe he will hit in the pros at some point but he hasn't for the Mets and simply ran out of chances.

I wonder if Sandy looks to move Lagares now?
RE: ..  
arcarsenal : 7/29/2015 9:51 pm : link
In comment 12392799 Rflairr said:
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Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan
Source: If Mets trade for Carlos Gomez does come to fruition, Juan Lagares expected to go to the Brewers. Name has been prominent in talks.

Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan
Another source says Juan Lagares is not in current incarnation of Mets talks with Brewers in potential Carlos Gomez deal. So there's that.


LOL.. brutal. Way to put info out there, Jeff!
wow  
Rflairr : 7/29/2015 10:01 pm : link
Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal

Asked official involved with Gomez trade why Flores is still in game. Reply: No deal is done. The entire world has jumped the gun.
Hmmm  
Deej : 7/29/2015 10:02 pm : link
I thought Gomez had two more years after this one. The deal is a bit shakier to me with just 1 year left. There is a lot of production left in Wheeler's pre-FA years.
RE: Hmmm  
CGiants07 : 7/29/2015 10:14 pm : link
In comment 12392848 Deej said:
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I thought Gomez had two more years after this one. The deal is a bit shakier to me with just 1 year left. There is a lot of production left in Wheeler's pre-FA years.


we will also have option of qualifying offer I believe
fair enough  
Deej : 7/29/2015 10:40 pm : link
Gomez will probably still be worth a QO at the time.
Fair-weather Mets/Yankees fan coming in peace to report this:  
Anakim : 7/29/2015 10:47 pm : link
Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 1h1 hour ago
Was told #Brewers asked for Dilson Herrera and #Mets refused since already were including Wheeler. Accepted Flores as 2d item
great add for the Mets  
Jints in Carolina : 7/29/2015 10:52 pm : link
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Sandy about to speak to the media - Flores saying he's been told  
Eric on Li : 7/29/2015 10:53 pm : link
no trade.
I'd assume it's just pending physicals but either way  
Eric on Li : 7/29/2015 10:54 pm : link
Mike Vorkunov ‏@Mike_Vorkunov 51s51 seconds ago
Alderson says there is no trade. "Unfortunately social media got ahead of the facts"
RE: Sandy about to speak to the media - Flores saying he's been told  
steve in ky : 7/29/2015 10:54 pm : link
In comment 12392949 Eric on Li said:
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no trade.


Collins was saying no trade as well.

That would be nuts
what a disaster  
pjcas18 : 7/29/2015 10:54 pm : link
on so many levels
.  
pjcas18 : 7/29/2015 10:54 pm : link
Quote:
Anthony DiComo ‏@AnthonyDiComo 13s13 seconds ago

Sandy Alderson insists "there is no trade. Unfortunately, social media got ahead of the facts." Says Gomez deal "will not transpire." #Mets


will not transpire, not on hold or not done yet, will not transpire
Hold the phone - Sandy saying no deal going to happen  
Eric on Li : 7/29/2015 10:55 pm : link
Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN 11s11 seconds ago
Whoa! Sandy Alderson says trade trade "has not and will not transpire." ... That sounds definitive no.
WTF?  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 10:56 pm : link
This is a disaster! Seriously?
What a mess.  
steve in ky : 7/29/2015 10:56 pm : link
To look for a positive:

Maybe somehow this will light a fire under Wilmer and be a turning point for him.
Wow..  
arcarsenal : 7/29/2015 10:57 pm : link
Everything this franchise does is a mess.
RE: Hold the phone - Sandy saying no deal going to happen  
dpinzow : 7/29/2015 10:58 pm : link
In comment 12392957 Eric on Li said:
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Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN 11s11 seconds ago
Whoa! Sandy Alderson says trade trade "has not and will not transpire." ... That sounds definitive no.


Da fuq? This is one of the most bizarre trade deadlines ever
Wheeler must  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 10:58 pm : link
have flunked the physical? What a nightmare.
You can't make the last 4 hours up if you tried  
moespree : 7/29/2015 10:59 pm : link
So, Wilmer...sorry about that...hey go get 'em tomorrow at noon. Jesus.
I don't think this is the Mets - I think Brewers or Boras leaked early  
Eric on Li : 7/29/2015 10:59 pm : link
to force Mets hand and Sandy is calling the bluff/power play.
Maverick  
Giants2012 : 7/29/2015 11:00 pm : link
Another chapter
Sherman was the first that reported it done  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 11:00 pm : link
And Rubin and almost everyone else followed suit. Im putting it on Sherman.
Sandy is on SNY  
RodneyHamp : 7/29/2015 11:00 pm : link
being pretty definitive that there is no trade and it won't happen.
LOLMedia  
spike : 7/29/2015 11:00 pm : link
Poor Wilmer cried for nothing
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