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ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 9:06 pm
Wheeler and Flores going the other way.

Adam Rubin & #8207;@AdamRubinESPN 6m6 minutes ago
Zack Wheeler and Wilmer Flores going to #Brewers for Carlos Gomez, according to Daily News.
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RE: I don't think this is the Mets - I think Brewers or Boras leaked early  
dpinzow : 7/29/2015 11:01 pm : link
In comment 12392969 Eric on Li said:
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to force Mets hand and Sandy is calling the bluff/power play.


Don't think it's the Mets either...think it is Milwaukee taking a look at Wheeler's medicals and having second thoughts
Lolmets  
KWhite2250 : 7/29/2015 11:01 pm : link
What a dick punch. Being an isles fan though in the 90's until recently prepared me for this shit
screw the Brewers  
spike : 7/29/2015 11:02 pm : link
what a 2nd rate organization
BTW - the ONLY person who handled this correctly  
Giants2012 : 7/29/2015 11:02 pm : link
was Collins.
But I don't think it is the Mets fault  
dpinzow : 7/29/2015 11:02 pm : link
that the trade fell through

I think it is Milwaukee's fault because they think Wheeler is permanently damaged goods
RE: BTW - the ONLY person who handled this correctly  
spike : 7/29/2015 11:03 pm : link
In comment 12392979 Giants2012 said:
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was Collins.


lol Collins did the right thing all night long.
RE: But I don't think it is the Mets fault  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 11:03 pm : link
In comment 12392980 dpinzow said:
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that the trade fell through

I think it is Milwaukee's fault because they think Wheeler is permanently damaged goods


I don't know. Wheeler is already throwing. How bad could he be?
RE: RE: I don't think this is the Mets - I think Brewers or Boras leaked early  
schabadoo : 7/29/2015 11:03 pm : link
In comment 12392975 dpinzow said:
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In comment 12392969 Eric on Li said:


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to force Mets hand and Sandy is calling the bluff/power play.



Don't think it's the Mets either...think it is Milwaukee taking a look at Wheeler's medicals and having second thoughts


If true that would be reported.
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Anakim : 7/29/2015 11:03 pm : link
Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 2m2 minutes ago
Was told players agreed upon in #Mets deal with #Brewers. Gomez for Wilmer/Wheeler. Alderson says now no deal.
RE: Wheeler must  
Shecky : 7/29/2015 11:04 pm : link
In comment 12392966 ZGiants98 said:
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have flunked the physical? What a nightmare.


Not even remotely close to being the case Z. Get a good nights sleep
RE: RE: I don't think this is the Mets - I think Brewers or Boras leaked early  
PhiPsi125 : 7/29/2015 11:04 pm : link
In comment 12392975 dpinzow said:
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In comment 12392969 Eric on Li said:


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to force Mets hand and Sandy is calling the bluff/power play.



Don't think it's the Mets either...think it is Milwaukee taking a look at Wheeler's medicals and having second thoughts


What could they possibly have been expecting when looking at the medical records of a player just off TJ surgery? Just so fucking weird. I have no idea how something like this goes so sideways. Makes no sense.

And of course, tulo goes nuts tonight for Toronto.
RE: RE: Wheeler must  
steve in ky : 7/29/2015 11:04 pm : link
In comment 12392986 Shecky said:
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In comment 12392966 ZGiants98 said:


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have flunked the physical? What a nightmare.



Not even remotely close to being the case Z. Get a good nights sleep

Shecky, give us a hint
RE: RE: Wheeler must  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 11:04 pm : link
In comment 12392986 Shecky said:
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In comment 12392966 ZGiants98 said:


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have flunked the physical? What a nightmare.



Not even remotely close to being the case Z. Get a good nights sleep


I meant medical report. lol. Have any idea here Sheck?
RE: RE: Wheeler must  
PhiPsi125 : 7/29/2015 11:05 pm : link
In comment 12392986 Shecky said:
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In comment 12392966 ZGiants98 said:


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have flunked the physical? What a nightmare.



Not even remotely close to being the case Z. Get a good nights sleep


Sheck, I know you know the truth....and I really really want to know.

Come on, share with me buddy!!
maybe another team  
spike : 7/29/2015 11:05 pm : link
jumped in with a bigger package for Gomez
Look, clearly Mets didn't think it was done - so who else could leak?  
Eric on Li : 7/29/2015 11:07 pm : link
Agent or team that's now supposedly backing out also? I don't think medicals are blowing this up.

I think Milwaukee leaked all of this once the players had been agreed to and I think the overall deal hadn't been agreed to yet, possibly even haggling over $ or something. I think they tried to put Alderson in a position where he couldn't unring a bell and he is calling their bluff. Possibly at his own expense, but calling it none the less.
zero percent change that Wheeler took a physical  
Deej : 7/29/2015 11:07 pm : link
in the last few hours. Come on now.

The may have rejected him based on the medical records though. which would be a rough sign for us, though I doubt Sandy would knowingly trade damaged goods like that.
RE: Wow..  
Jim in Fairfax : 7/29/2015 11:08 pm : link
In comment 12392964 arcarsenal said:
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Everything this franchise does is a mess.


Wow is right. The press jumps the gun announcing a trade that hasn't happened, and now somehow it's the Mets' fault?
It's really on Sherman  
Rflairr : 7/29/2015 11:09 pm : link
Everyone was using his report
RE: zero percent change that Wheeler took a physical  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 11:10 pm : link
In comment 12392997 Deej said:
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in the last few hours. Come on now.

The may have rejected him based on the medical records though. which would be a rough sign for us, though I doubt Sandy would knowingly trade damaged goods like that.


Again. Wheeler started throwing the other day. How bad could he be? And Sheck says its not even remotely that so who the hell knows. This is crazy.
RE: zero percent change that Wheeler took a physical  
dpinzow : 7/29/2015 11:11 pm : link
In comment 12392997 Deej said:
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in the last few hours. Come on now.

The may have rejected him based on the medical records though. which would be a rough sign for us, though I doubt Sandy would knowingly trade damaged goods like that.


Or Sandy thought that Wheeler wasn't damaged goods but the Brewers are more finicky and thought otherwise
RE: It's really on Sherman  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 11:11 pm : link
In comment 12393002 Rflairr said:
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Everyone was using his report


Yup.
I don't know who's "fault" it is.  
arcarsenal : 7/29/2015 11:12 pm : link
Not too often you see a trade so widely reported as "done" only to turn into "not happening"

Just unbelievably typical.. regardless of who's fault it is. It's just another kick in the dick in a long, long line of them.
Sheck, can't drop a bomb like that and then clam up  
PhiPsi125 : 7/29/2015 11:12 pm : link
Come on bro, lol.

It's all good, I understand if you can't but I'm jealous.
The Mets get the brunt of blame, but this is on press & their sources  
Eric on Li : 7/29/2015 11:13 pm : link
whoever those are (likely MIL people). Milwaukee had told Gomez about the trade, so again, clearly they thought the deal was agreed to when it apparently wasn't.

Not to be a downer, but I bet this fell apart over money. They had agreed on players and there's not much else that could have been in discussion since physicals didn't happen yet. Milwaukee thought they could muscle it through and now Alderson is breaking off entirely.
Here's an idea  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 11:14 pm : link
How about Gomez failed the medical reports?? He's had a series of injuries and hip issues. Milwaukee had already told Gomez's camp the deal was done so what if WE squashed it??
RE: Here's an idea  
Eric on Li : 7/29/2015 11:15 pm : link
In comment 12393012 ZGiants98 said:
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How about Gomez failed the medical reports?? He's had a series of injuries and hip issues. Milwaukee had already told Gomez's camp the deal was done so what if WE squashed it??


That's possible.
I guess  
spike : 7/29/2015 11:15 pm : link
it's time to delete this thread!
RE: I guess  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 11:16 pm : link
In comment 12393015 spike said:
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it's time to delete this thread!


Should I?? So much discussion I wasn't sure?
How fast do they get these medical reports over, though?  
arcarsenal : 7/29/2015 11:16 pm : link
And how up to date are they?
RE: Here's an idea  
steve in ky : 7/29/2015 11:17 pm : link
In comment 12393012 ZGiants98 said:
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How about Gomez failed the medical reports?? He's had a series of injuries and hip issues. Milwaukee had already told Gomez's camp the deal was done so what if WE squashed it??


Good thought. It could really be almost anything at this point but I hadn't thought of that possibility.
RE: RE: Here's an idea  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 11:17 pm : link
In comment 12393014 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 12393012 ZGiants98 said:


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How about Gomez failed the medical reports?? He's had a series of injuries and hip issues. Milwaukee had already told Gomez's camp the deal was done so what if WE squashed it??



That's possible.


With Sandy saying so definitely there will not be a trade this deadline wouldn't it make more sense?? Because you figure if it was on Wheeler the door might still be open for a different combination of players.
Why couldnt sandy  
KWhite2250 : 7/29/2015 11:19 pm : link
Tell everyone there was no deal in inning 7 after watching flores cry on the field? Why did he wait the entire night?
RE: Why couldnt sandy  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 11:20 pm : link
In comment 12393024 KWhite2250 said:
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Tell everyone there was no deal in inning 7 after watching flores cry on the field? Why did he wait the entire night?


Maybe he was still on the phone?
ONLY the Mets  
Giants2012 : 7/29/2015 11:22 pm : link
No other team could pull off this type of circus
RE: RE: Why couldnt sandy  
steve in ky : 7/29/2015 11:24 pm : link
In comment 12393028 ZGiants98 said:
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In comment 12393024 KWhite2250 said:


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Tell everyone there was no deal in inning 7 after watching flores cry on the field? Why did he wait the entire night?



Maybe he was still on the phone?


Yeah he was likely pretty involved at the time.
RE: ONLY the Mets  
steve in ky : 7/29/2015 11:25 pm : link
In comment 12393030 Giants2012 said:
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No other team could pull off this type of circus


Unreal isn't it.
Well. Rule out Parra  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 11:25 pm : link
and Braun. No chance Sandy is dealing with the Brewers if they leaked this and caused this. Sandy seemed pissed.
Wheelers medical according to Joe DeMayo  
Eric on Li : 7/29/2015 11:27 pm : link
Joe DeMayo ‏@PSLToFlushing 31s31 seconds ago
Mets sources confirmed. Brewers sources confirmed. Scott Boras (Gomez's agent) was under the impression he was a Met. It was Zack's medical.
Who wouldn't be?  
steve in ky : 7/29/2015 11:28 pm : link
Well maybe it will work out for the best. You know the old saying that sometimes the best trades are the ones never made.
RE: Wheelers medical according to Joe DeMayo  
ZGiants98 : 7/29/2015 11:28 pm : link
In comment 12393035 Eric on Li said:
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Joe DeMayo ‏@PSLToFlushing 31s31 seconds ago
Mets sources confirmed. Brewers sources confirmed. Scott Boras (Gomez's agent) was under the impression he was a Met. It was Zack's medical.


Except Shecky just said that couldn't be further from the truth. Who to believe... Hmmm.
Brewers back out twice in a week  
Eric on Li : 7/29/2015 11:29 pm : link
Matt Ehalt ‏@MattEhalt 1m1 minute ago
Not sure if this is out there but The Record hears it was on the Brewers end that this deal fell through, not the Mets.
Welp.. someone has bad info.  
arcarsenal : 7/29/2015 11:29 pm : link
Either Joe DeMayo or Shecky..

Hm
I usually trust Shecky  
pjcas18 : 7/29/2015 11:30 pm : link
but this tweet from DiComo indicate it was either Gomez's, Wheeler's or Flores' medicals.

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Anthony DiComo ‏@AnthonyDiComo 9m9 minutes ago

I want to be perfectly clear because I've heard this from all angles now: the trade was DONE, pending medicals. And now it's not happening.


no clue if true
Media still leading some around by the nose  
Giants2012 : 7/29/2015 11:30 pm : link
Think people. Use the thing located above your nose or pull it out of your tails.
so glad this didn't go down  
chris r : 7/29/2015 11:31 pm : link
Gomez is going to fall off quickly IMO.
Sounds like it may well have been Gomez' medical  
arcarsenal : 7/29/2015 11:33 pm : link
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RE: so glad this didn't go down  
pjcas18 : 7/29/2015 11:33 pm : link
In comment 12393043 chris r said:
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Gomez is going to fall off quickly IMO.


he's under contract for one year. He's a FA in 2017. how quickly?
well he's already fallen off in the field and on the bases  
chris r : 7/29/2015 11:37 pm : link
his hitting is at the level its been either. So next year maybe yeah. And giving up legit assets for a two year rental isn't what the Mets should be doing anyway.

So fingers crossed this doesn't happen.
*isnt  
chris r : 7/29/2015 11:38 pm : link
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