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superspynyg : 7/30/2015 9:50 am
Well in about 30 hours left before the trade deadline arrives. I still think that we need to add another starter and could upgrade at 2b. With Nova dealing with a tired arm (He fully expects to pitch his next scheduled start), CC not pitching well, and Pineda past the most innings he has pitched in 3 years we should protect ourselves.

I never expected Cashman to get one of the top pitchers, but I though that he would make one or two moves like last season (McCarthy and Prado). He still has time. Either way barring a complete breakdown we are headed to the playoffs.
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Rosenthal says  
Michael 123 : 7/30/2015 2:24 pm : link

Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Many in industry sense #Yankees are poised to strike. Looking into all available arms, as they always do. Generally a team that moves late.
30 July
Pineda going to DL afterall  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/30/2015 2:27 pm : link
Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 5s5 seconds ago
Pineda has Grade 1 forearm strain. Same as Miller, who missed a month. Being put on DL, but #Yankees feel he will pitch again this yr
RE: Pineda going to DL afterall  
RasputinPrime : 7/30/2015 2:29 pm : link
In comment 12394175 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 5s5 seconds ago
Pineda has Grade 1 forearm strain. Same as Miller, who missed a month. Being put on DL, but #Yankees feel he will pitch again this yr


Well we will find out just how deep the system is over the next month either because they step up or because we use them to acquire someone today to step up.
wonder if they get in on a guy like Iwakuma  
Stu11 : 7/30/2015 2:39 pm : link
he's been not great this year, and was hurt early but he's been a real solid pitcher for 2 years prior to this in Seattle. Leake is another guy to look at as has been mentioned. The Mariners are an interesting team to watch over the next 24 hours. Is pretty much anyone not named King Felix,Cruz or Taijuan Walker on the block?
CC is back pitching tonight  
micky : 7/30/2015 2:42 pm : link
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Dave in Hoboken : 7/30/2015 2:45 pm : link
Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 35s36 seconds ago
Sense get from #Yankees is as likely to add rlvr to deepen pen to help rotation. NYY seems even hesitant to move the Warrens and Mitchells
I think nobody can blame Cash for giving away the farm  
Stu11 : 7/30/2015 3:09 pm : link
the last decade. True much of the time they haven't had the prospects to compete on the trade market. They do now however and he's being prudent. People would say it's a no brainer to throw guys like Warren/Mitchell out there but you have to decide is the guy you are getting really more helpful than them right now? Warren has been pretty damn effective this year.
Exactly. The problem is that marginal difference in effectiveness  
BeerFridge : 7/30/2015 3:21 pm : link
between Mitchell/Warren and a trade target is very expensive in terms of prospects.
I know it's not a sexy move, but...  
LarmerTJR : 7/30/2015 3:32 pm : link
trade for a decent reliever, move Warren back to being a starter, and roll the dice...
Yanks get Dustin Ackley  
davek3698 : 7/30/2015 4:30 pm : link
Not sure what they gave up yet.
Oh come the fuck on!  
Greg from LI : 7/30/2015 4:31 pm : link
What the hell is the obsession Cashman has for a piece of garbage like Ackley????
Ramon Flores and Jose Ramirez  
davek3698 : 7/30/2015 4:31 pm : link
Yikes.
LOLCashman.  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/30/2015 4:33 pm : link
......
you've got to be kidding me  
Greg from LI : 7/30/2015 4:33 pm : link
I wouldn't trade a used kleenex for that guy.
Are you fucking kidding me  
illmatic : 7/30/2015 4:33 pm : link
Please tell me the Ackley thing is a joke. Seriously.
I don't get this either.  
Del Shofner : 7/30/2015 4:34 pm : link
Seems like an only slightly better version of Drew who can also play some left field, which we don't really need. And what happens with Drew?
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Dave in Hoboken : 7/30/2015 4:35 pm : link
Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 35s35 seconds ago
#Yankees were going to have 40-man roster crunch with LH-hit OFs/RH rlvrs this winter, so Flores/Ramirez depart #Mariners
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Dave in Hoboken : 7/30/2015 4:36 pm : link
Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 3m3 minutes ago
Bet #Yankees see Ackley as change of scenery guy whose LH swing plays at Yankee Stadium. #Mariners
neither Flores nor Ramirez has much trade value  
Greg from LI : 7/30/2015 4:36 pm : link
But seriously, TWO players for a festering pile of dung like Ackley?
they can stuff that change of scenery up their asses  
Greg from LI : 7/30/2015 4:37 pm : link
Safeco isn't why his numbers suck - he's actually much worse on the road this year. His numbers suck because HE SUCKS. He can't fucking hit.
So instead of getting a legit upgrade at second  
illmatic : 7/30/2015 4:38 pm : link
we'll see Ackley splitting time with Drew there instead. And Refsnyder won't get another chance at 2B until next year... maybe. You never know with the way this franchise handles minor leaguers. This really pisses me off.
FYI.  
Pego61 : 7/30/2015 4:39 pm : link
Ackley at Yankee Stadium: 17 games, .296/.397/.481, 2 HR, 9 RBI.

Probably means nothing. I don't get it, but neither Flores nor Ramirez had a future here. We just have so many outfield and relief prospects.
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Dave in Hoboken : 7/30/2015 4:39 pm : link
Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 20s21 seconds ago
Not sure how Ackley fits on current roster unless #Yankees have injury haven't announced or trade lined up for someone like Garrett Jones
I'll bet you anything this means Refsnyder is gone in a trade for a  
Greg from LI : 7/30/2015 4:39 pm : link
pitcher. Makes no sense otherwise. It still doesn't make much sense from the standpoint that Ackley is utterly worthless, but that's beside the point.
Ackley  
DanMetroMan : 7/30/2015 4:39 pm : link
changed his swing at some point last year and was AWESOME... then sucked again.
I'd rather see Refsnyder play  
Victor in CT : 7/30/2015 4:43 pm : link
It's time for the young blood to come up
the whole thing is like Alain Vignault's attachment to Tanner Glass  
Greg from LI : 7/30/2015 4:44 pm : link
Just incomprehensible.
Like I said before  
arniefez : 7/30/2015 4:46 pm : link
the priorities have changed. It's actually a better business plan. But I hope they're right about the talent level of the guys they're insisting on keeping. From Sherman:

[quoteThe Yankees were faced with the question of how much to strip of that for 12 starts of Price, plus the postseason. Steinbrenner has quarantined Aaron Judge, Greg Bird and Luis Severino at Triple-A and A-ball shortstop Jorge Mateo who just might be the Yankees best prospects. And executives from other teams say Cashman is being protective of even more than that. The idea is not to be so gung-ho for a title now that you damage your near future.[/quote]
sans beard  
RasputinPrime : 7/30/2015 4:47 pm : link
Ackley will hackley.

Sad to see a guy like Flores go but he didn't have upside to do more than play AAA for us. Ramirez just wasn't able to harness his stuff.

Fine with the deal. Maybe Ackley helps and he didn't cost anything.
RE: So instead of getting a legit upgrade at second  
Del Shofner : 7/30/2015 4:51 pm : link
In comment 12394519 illmatic said:
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we'll see Ackley splitting time with Drew there instead. And Refsnyder won't get another chance at 2B until next year... maybe. You never know with the way this franchise handles minor leaguers. This really pisses me off.


Can't see Ackley splitting time with Drew as they are both LH hitters. Splitting time with Ryan, yes. Which leaves Drew exactly where?
Ackley has also barely played 2B in the past two seasons  
Greg from LI : 7/30/2015 4:53 pm : link
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Ackley can play 1st & OF  
arniefez : 7/30/2015 4:54 pm : link
It might be Jones who is going.
The Mariners  
arniefez : 7/30/2015 4:56 pm : link
brought in a big contract guy to play 2B so Ackley was pushed out. They only owe that guy 194 million after this year.
Ackley  
kash94 : 7/30/2015 4:57 pm : link
doesn't really bring much but I'm more interested in how they'll make room for him. DFA Jones probably makes the most sense
man, Garrett Jones sucks!  
Greg from LI : 7/30/2015 4:59 pm : link
Let's bring in someone hitting just as poorly to replace him!
It's possible  
kash94 : 7/30/2015 5:00 pm : link
Cashman sees Ackley more of a 1B/OF bench guy than a 2b considering how few games he's played there recently. Hope this is the case as I'm not sure why Refsnyder isn't being given a shot.
His numbers are terrible as a 2B  
illmatic : 7/30/2015 5:04 pm : link
They're absolutely god awful as an OF. I have no idea what he's trying to do with Ackley or why he has wanted him so badly for like the past three years now. Flores would have been better as a fifth OF if that's what he's supposed to be. Drew, as crazy as it is to say, is probably a better overall 2B than Ackley is/would be. Garrett Jones pretty much has the same stats as him if he's supposed to be the new backup 1B. And Jones has played a lot more 1B than Ackley has. I think Ackley has only played there... 17 times in his career. I just don't get it.
RE: It's possible  
Del Shofner : 7/30/2015 5:07 pm : link
In comment 12394587 kash94 said:
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Cashman sees Ackley more of a 1B/OF bench guy than a 2b considering how few games he's played there recently. Hope this is the case as I'm not sure why Refsnyder isn't being given a shot.


Ackley played some 1B in college, I believe, but he is a right-handed fielder so I don't see the attraction to playing him at 1B in MLB. Jones despite his flaws is at least a decent defensive 1B.
Girardi on the FAN  
davek3698 : 7/30/2015 5:09 pm : link
said he wont be played as the primary 2nd baseman, but rather all of the field. Still likes Drew there.
nothing like a first baseman that can't hit!  
Greg from LI : 7/30/2015 5:13 pm : link
I was feeling so nostalgic for the Lyle Overbay era.
Few other notes/thoughts  
kash94 : 7/30/2015 5:15 pm : link
-Forgot that Andrew Bailey is on the Yankees recovering from surgery in AA right now. Perhaps an option for the bullpen down the stretch.

-Nick Goody and Bryan Mitchell being called up to replace Pineda and Moreno (I think?). Yankees suddenly now have 2 new relievers and a new starter last few days.
Yankees Bullpen is now  
kash94 : 7/30/2015 5:17 pm : link
-Warren
-Goody
-Cotham
-Miller
-Shreve
-Betances
-Miller

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Assuming Moreno was sent down for Goody
Cotham going down  
kash94 : 7/30/2015 5:35 pm : link
rather than Moreno which makes sense I guess (per YES)
RE: Cotham going down  
Del Shofner : 7/30/2015 5:47 pm : link
In comment 12394664 kash94 said:
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rather than Moreno which makes sense I guess (per YES)


Cotham was mainly relieving at SWB, and Moreno was mainly starting, so maybe Moreno replaces Pineda in the rotation.
RE: Yankees Bullpen is now  
bitterblue : 7/30/2015 5:50 pm : link
In comment 12394632 kash94 said:
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-Warren
-Goody
-Cotham
-Miller
-Shreve
-Betances
-Miller

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Assuming Moreno was sent down for Goody


Justin Wilson (instead of 2 Miller's)
RE: RE: Yankees Bullpen is now  
kash94 : 7/30/2015 6:05 pm : link
In comment 12394679 bitterblue said:
Quote:
In comment 12394632 kash94 said:


Quote:


-Warren
-Goody
-Cotham
-Miller
-Shreve
-Betances
-Miller

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Assuming Moreno was sent down for Goody



Justin Wilson (instead of 2 Miller's)


Right - thanks!
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Dave in Hoboken : 7/30/2015 6:09 pm : link
Mark Feinsand ‏@FeinsandNYDN 31s31 seconds ago
We'll talk to Girardi soon, but I'm told by someone that the plan is to use Ackley at second base. Hmmm. Perhaps Drew is on the move?
I'd guess the Yankees see Ackley  
RasputinPrime : 7/30/2015 6:39 pm : link
as their Brock Holt. We are going to need two utility players who can be plugged in all over of the field as we get into the second half of the season. At least Young continues to make it easy to give Beltran a rest against LHP.
Bailey  
kash94 : 7/30/2015 6:45 pm : link
promoted to AAA. Maybe he could reach the MLB in 2 weeks or so?

He's been pretty meh to awful last two years (2012 + 2013) but has apparently looked excellent so far and was great in 2009 and 2010 - let's see.

just waiting to play the Blue Jays  
RasputinPrime : 7/30/2015 7:10 pm : link
with this lineup:

Tulo
Donaldson
Bautista
Encarnacion
Colabello
Martin
Pillar
Goins
Pompey

Price
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