And if Gilmartin blows it or gives up a hit then everyone goes "WTF, Gilmartin? Why not go with your best arm!". Gilmartin since the all-star break 4 games 5.06 era 1.69 whip. This is ridiculously unfair criticism. If there were a clear guy (Mejia, Clippard etc), 100% fair. He had NOTHING.
Again, it was the 40 minute part that I have issue with. Tough to get warm again after such a long layoff
5 out of 6 batters yesterday. The guy has a 2.82 FIP and a 0.4 WAR in only a little over 30 innings and he seems to actually be getting better. Your right though, people would have probably been pissed either way but I dont think is customary for relievers to break mid inning for 40 minutes and come back. I think we are all just pissed off though.
out the atbat. I was watching the game, they could have finished the atbat. It was crappy to suspend the game 2 strikes from the (potential) win. Maybe he still gives up the hit...but he was dealing at that point. Forget everything that happened after.
5 out of 6 batters yesterday. The guy has a 2.82 FIP and a 0.4 WAR in only a little over 30 innings and he seems to actually be getting better. Your right though, people would have probably been pissed either way but I dont think is customary for relievers to break mid inning for 40 minutes and come back. I think we are all just pissed off though.
Cool and 2 games ago against the Dodgers Gilmartin faced 3 batters, allowed 3 hits, 2 runs. This isn't about trashing Gilmartin either. It's about there was no "great" or clear option here. No win.
out the atbat. I was watching the game, they could have finished the atbat. It was crappy to suspend the game 2 strikes from the (potential) win. Maybe he still gives up the hit...but he was dealing at that point. Forget everything that happened after.
Yeah, goddam ridiculous to call it during the at-bat. What changed in the fifteen seconds the at-bat started?
sample. Thats almost as bad as me referencing Nimmo in AAA yesterday. Giving up one run would totally skew that.
The point was there was nobody "worth arguing over". It's not as if Gilmartin is Clippard or Gilmartin is Mejia. He's a solid enough extra arm who JUST had a horrible game against the Dodgers. it wasn't like Terry passed on some good option.
sample. Thats almost as bad as me referencing Nimmo in AAA yesterday. Giving up one run would totally skew that.
The point was there was nobody "worth arguing over". It's not as if Gilmartin is Clippard or Gilmartin is Mejia. He's a solid enough extra arm who JUST had a horrible game against the Dodgers. it wasn't like Terry passed on some good option.
It really just depends if Familia was capable of cooling down and warming back up again after a layoff. Many pitchers cant and if he is one of them, my 93 year old grandmother would have been a better option.
almost have to consider calling up some of the "better" arms and trying them in the pen. problem is a guy like Fulmer has health issues in the past. But this can't continue.
Imagine he hit a walk off for US in a resumed game at a later date? LOL.. that would be bizarre and right in line with something that would happen with this team.
out the atbat. I was watching the game, they could have finished the atbat. It was crappy to suspend the game 2 strikes from the (potential) win. Maybe he still gives up the hit...but he was dealing at that point. Forget everything that happened after.
Yeah, goddam ridiculous to call it during the at-bat. What changed in the fifteen seconds the at-bat started?
i see the mets trading the rights to Mejia to the Angles for Mike Trout,
and in the first inning of his first game as a Met, he gets zapped with a rogue bolt of lightening
But this is the kind of loss and week that sends a team into an eternal plummet.
Nats gained another game today if we lose with the possibility of increasing the lead even further this weekend. Slippery slope right now with confidence being at an all-time low.
I can't e er recall a pitcher coming back out after a significant rain delay. I'm sure it's been done, but I just can't remember ever seeing it
And obviously hindsight is 20-20
But you can't blow a 7-1 lead in a pennant race, especially against a poor hitting team like the Padres. We can all question or defend each of the pitching moves. But the point is that you can't let that happen. Not if you expect to be a contender
i dont know why Terry would put Familia back out there
I can't e er recall a pitcher coming back out after a significant rain delay. I'm sure it's been done, but I just can't remember ever seeing it
And obviously hindsight is 20-20
But you can't blow a 7-1 lead in a pennant race, especially against a poor hitting team like the Padres. We can all question or defend each of the pitching moves. But the point is that you can't let that happen. Not if you expect to be a contender
I despise Collins but you can't fault him for bringing Familia back in.
I can and do fault him for yanking Niese prematurely. He had another inning in him easy. The man costs his team games they should be winning. This is three games in the last 10 outings his questionable decisions have lost us a critical game in a playoff race.
There is nothing we can do about it this year but please FOR THE LOVE OF GOD replace this loser. He is holding this club back.
Also FUCK Mejia. Trade his ass for a bucket of chum.
My Uncle in SD was saying something about the Pads broadcast explaining they might not get credit for the top of the 9th? And I don't think this is correct.
I honestly have no idea how the new rainout rules work.
"If the home team is ahead by two runs when the players are pulled off the field, but the visiting team scores two runs in the top of the next inning before the players are pulled, the game is suspended and picked up at a later date from the point when the rain came."
My Uncle in SD was saying something about the Pads broadcast explaining they might not get credit for the top of the 9th? And I don't think this is correct.
I honestly have no idea how the new rainout rules work.
"If the home team is ahead by two runs when the players are pulled off the field, but the visiting team scores two runs in the top of the next inning before the players are pulled, the game is suspended and picked up at a later date from the point when the rain came."
My understanding is that, if suspended, the game will be resumed in the bottom of the ninth. if They never started the ninth, then the Mets would have won if they called the game.
Would be nice if the Padres just forfeited so they don't have to make the trip on an off day at the end of the season.
the Padres forfeited it would be one of the lowest moments in baseball history and truly sickening and I say that as a fan of the team that would profit.
after 5 complete innings the game reverted back to the last full inning, or in this case the 8th inning and is declared final. So it's just like Familia never pitched and the end of the 8th is the end of the game.
...is holding hope we can win it in the bottom of the 9th? The worst loss of the year is going to sting double because we have conceded the loss. We are going to take the field and then go through the emotions of losing again.
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who has been excellent. It was one out.
And if Gilmartin blows it or gives up a hit then everyone goes "WTF, Gilmartin? Why not go with your best arm!". Gilmartin since the all-star break 4 games 5.06 era 1.69 whip. This is ridiculously unfair criticism. If there were a clear guy (Mejia, Clippard etc), 100% fair. He had NOTHING.
Again, it was the 40 minute part that I have issue with. Tough to get warm again after such a long layoff
I still blame the umps for stopping game mid-at bat. That was insane.
That's another story but who knows what Niese's arm is saying any given day.
Collins lives and dies with the pitch count
Cool and 2 games ago against the Dodgers Gilmartin faced 3 batters, allowed 3 hits, 2 runs. This isn't about trashing Gilmartin either. It's about there was no "great" or clear option here. No win.
Please let me have 2 of whatever you're taking.
Yeah, goddam ridiculous to call it during the at-bat. What changed in the fifteen seconds the at-bat started?
The point was there was nobody "worth arguing over". It's not as if Gilmartin is Clippard or Gilmartin is Mejia. He's a solid enough extra arm who JUST had a horrible game against the Dodgers. it wasn't like Terry passed on some good option.
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sample. Thats almost as bad as me referencing Nimmo in AAA yesterday. Giving up one run would totally skew that.
The point was there was nobody "worth arguing over". It's not as if Gilmartin is Clippard or Gilmartin is Mejia. He's a solid enough extra arm who JUST had a horrible game against the Dodgers. it wasn't like Terry passed on some good option.
It really just depends if Familia was capable of cooling down and warming back up again after a layoff. Many pitchers cant and if he is one of them, my 93 year old grandmother would have been a better option.
Imagine he hit a walk off for US in a resumed game at a later date? LOL.. that would be bizarre and right in line with something that would happen with this team.
I hope he sues the team. Complete bullshit.
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out the atbat. I was watching the game, they could have finished the atbat. It was crappy to suspend the game 2 strikes from the (potential) win. Maybe he still gives up the hit...but he was dealing at that point. Forget everything that happened after.
Yeah, goddam ridiculous to call it during the at-bat. What changed in the fifteen seconds the at-bat started?
Add him to the list, Dan.
and in the first inning of his first game as a Met, he gets zapped with a rogue bolt of lightening
Nats gained another game today if we lose with the possibility of increasing the lead even further this weekend. Slippery slope right now with confidence being at an all-time low.
And obviously hindsight is 20-20
But you can't blow a 7-1 lead in a pennant race, especially against a poor hitting team like the Padres. We can all question or defend each of the pitching moves. But the point is that you can't let that happen. Not if you expect to be a contender
And obviously hindsight is 20-20
But you can't blow a 7-1 lead in a pennant race, especially against a poor hitting team like the Padres. We can all question or defend each of the pitching moves. But the point is that you can't let that happen. Not if you expect to be a contender
I can and do fault him for yanking Niese prematurely. He had another inning in him easy. The man costs his team games they should be winning. This is three games in the last 10 outings his questionable decisions have lost us a critical game in a playoff race.
There is nothing we can do about it this year but please FOR THE LOVE OF GOD replace this loser. He is holding this club back.
Also FUCK Mejia. Trade his ass for a bucket of chum.
I honestly have no idea how the new rainout rules work.
"If the home team is ahead by two runs when the players are pulled off the field, but the visiting team scores two runs in the top of the next inning before the players are pulled, the game is suspended and picked up at a later date from the point when the rain came."
I honestly have no idea how the new rainout rules work.
"If the home team is ahead by two runs when the players are pulled off the field, but the visiting team scores two runs in the top of the next inning before the players are pulled, the game is suspended and picked up at a later date from the point when the rain came."
My understanding is that, if suspended, the game will be resumed in the bottom of the ninth. if They never started the ninth, then the Mets would have won if they called the game.
Would be nice if the Padres just forfeited so they don't have to make the trip on an off day at the end of the season.
Lmao.
like some says the SD broadcast team reported.