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NFT: 7/30 Gomez-less Mets vs Padres Game 3

Shecky : 7/30/2015 12:06 pm
RF Curtis Granderson
SS Ruben Tejada
2B Daniel Murphy
1B Lucas Duda
3B Juan Uribe
LF Michael Conforto
C Kevin Plawecki
LHP Jon Niese
CF Juan Lagares
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Man  
KWhite2250 : 7/30/2015 4:22 pm : link
I jokingly texted my friends the mets will blow this after delay when all they need is 2 strikes. What a kick in the nuts again. Just brutal
RE: I thought in a rain out  
DanMetroMan : 7/30/2015 4:22 pm : link
In comment 12394473 pjcas18 said:
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after 5 complete innings the game reverted back to the last full inning, or in this case the 8th inning and is declared final. So it's just like Familia never pitched and the end of the 8th is the end of the game.

like some says the SD broadcast team reported.


Nope. Rubin posted the rules. It's considered suspended under the rules.

RE: RE: If we trade for Upton and the game has to be resumed at a later date  
speedywheels : 7/30/2015 4:24 pm : link
In comment 12394424 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 12394420 Eric on Li said:


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Will Upton have technically beat himself?



Imagine he hit a walk off for US in a resumed game at a later date? LOL.. that would be bizarre and right in line with something that would happen with this team.


I think (but could very well be wrong) that he would have to play the game as a Padre, since he was a Padre on the day of the original game (would apply no matter what team he is traded to). Their roster would have to be what it was on that date (same deal if Padres trade other players). Thought I remember reading that years ago.

Very possible I mis-read that, or they have changed it since...
So maybe we got screwed by the rain  
Chris684 : 7/30/2015 4:24 pm : link
and saved by the rain?
Ugh...  
Chris684 : 7/30/2015 4:25 pm : link
..
RE: If  
NJGiantFan84 : 7/30/2015 4:28 pm : link
In comment 12394462 DanMetroMan said:
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the Padres forfeited it would be one of the lowest moments in baseball history and truly sickening and I say that as a fan of the team that would profit.


It would never happen. I was really just joking anyway. Hopefully it doesn't come down to that.
I'd rather take the loss right now  
Headhunter : 7/30/2015 4:29 pm : link
then win by forfeit.
RE: RE: I thought in a rain out  
pjcas18 : 7/30/2015 4:29 pm : link
In comment 12394482 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 12394473 pjcas18 said:


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after 5 complete innings the game reverted back to the last full inning, or in this case the 8th inning and is declared final. So it's just like Familia never pitched and the end of the 8th is the end of the game.

like some says the SD broadcast team reported.



Nope. Rubin posted the rules. It's considered suspended under the rules.



LOL, I was in the car headed to a wedding in VT. I didn't know they resumed the game, Familia came back in and gave up a 3R HR to lose the lead. I thought there was still 2 outs in the top of the 9th. So the resumed the game long enough for that and then delayed it again? that's some sick karma there.

WTF. I guess at this point you have to laugh.

Maybe Flores gets a PH GW HR?

RE: RE: RE: If we trade for Upton and the game has to be resumed at a later date  
Greg from LI : 7/30/2015 4:30 pm : link
In comment 12394485 speedywheels said:
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In comment 12394424 arcarsenal said:


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In comment 12394420 Eric on Li said:


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Will Upton have technically beat himself?



Imagine he hit a walk off for US in a resumed game at a later date? LOL.. that would be bizarre and right in line with something that would happen with this team.



I think (but could very well be wrong) that he would have to play the game as a Padre, since he was a Padre on the day of the original game (would apply no matter what team he is traded to). Their roster would have to be what it was on that date (same deal if Padres trade other players). Thought I remember reading that years ago.

Very possible I mis-read that, or they have changed it since...


Didn't this happen once before - a guy playing for both teams in the same game due to a suspended game?
Flores does that  
Headhunter : 7/30/2015 4:30 pm : link
write up as a script and try selling it to Hollywood, they would physically throw you off the lot of the studio
It's the curse of the Wilponsis...dun dun dun  
Torrag : 7/30/2015 4:31 pm : link
You participate in shady deals that hurt people and it comes back around right in your face.
What about all the pre Wilpon stuff  
Headhunter : 7/30/2015 4:31 pm : link
I suffered through?
This really started  
Rflairr : 7/30/2015 4:32 pm : link
with that pussy pitching by Parnell.
Rubin reporting the umps  
Headhunter : 7/30/2015 4:33 pm : link
are waiting for another round of storms to blow through before resuming
Rflairr  
Torrag : 7/30/2015 4:34 pm : link
It really started when Collins miscalculated with the pitching staff yet again by removing Niese an inning early.
It really really began  
Headhunter : 7/30/2015 4:35 pm : link
in April of 1962
..  
DanMetroMan : 7/30/2015 4:37 pm : link
The only way for this game to properly end is a Flores walk-off homer, reversed by replay #Mets

Gary- "What a crazy 24 hours this has been for both Flores and the team"
Ron- "It appears Padres manager Pat Murphy is discussing something with the umpires"
Gary- "not exactly clear what is being discussed, they are pointing to the area around home plate"
Gary- "Wow! Flores being called out! Home plate umpire Mike Everitt is saying Flores foot was outside of the batters box when he swung"
Sandy Alderson fires Collins  
Headhunter : 7/30/2015 4:45 pm : link
they fly in a befuddled Tommy Lasorda, throw a uniform on him and have him to manage the rest of the game
A senile Lasorda is a clear upgrade on Collins  
Torrag : 7/30/2015 4:47 pm : link
He'll be a better manager than Collins three days after he has passed away.
.  
DanMetroMan : 7/30/2015 4:48 pm : link
Adam McCalvy ✔ @AdamMcCalvy
Asked whether he's hurt, Carlos Gomez said, "I don't have no problems. I'm playing, and I feel really sexy about it."
Oh for the good old days  
Headhunter : 7/30/2015 4:49 pm : link
before meaningful games in August when a loss like this another summer day
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arcarsenal : 7/30/2015 4:50 pm : link
The more I read, the more I really believe the Gomez thing was purely financial. The Brewers wouldn't take on money and the Mets balked. The hip stuff sounds fucking bogus. Heyman said Gomez was already told his hip was fine.
They should ask Gomez ...  
Torrag : 7/30/2015 4:50 pm : link
Why in every base running category he is invisible when it was once a superior asset. But he feels sexy so I guess it isn't an issue....
Asking a player if he is hurt  
Headhunter : 7/30/2015 4:51 pm : link
is the way to go. Like the 300 Victor Cruz threads with people refusing to believe he is healed until he is on the field. Yeah, invest Wheeler on Gomez's word, smart business
feeling sexy?  
Drewcon40 : 7/30/2015 4:51 pm : link
Why? Is he playing the game in assless chaps?
arc  
Torrag : 7/30/2015 4:52 pm : link
I despise the Wilponsis and clearly feel the payroll is a serious issue for them. That said I believe Gomez hip could be bad. Compare his base running stats over his career. Something isn't kosher.
Exactly.  
ZGiants98 : 7/30/2015 4:52 pm : link
They have him actually on quote saying he's "scared to run" but hey he feels sexy! Lol.
Yeah throw your team  
Headhunter : 7/30/2015 4:52 pm : link
doctors under the bus, makes a lot of sense to me
You forget the Brewers have less than 24 hours to dump Gomez ?  
Headhunter : 7/30/2015 4:54 pm : link
what do you expect them to say?
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arcarsenal : 7/30/2015 4:55 pm : link
It might be his groin or something else but it really doesn't sound like anything is wrong with his hip. It has been said a few times that he was already given assurances it was fine.

And the guy is playing every day. It's not like Cadaver where he literally couldn't even be on the field or do anything but pinch hit and snail the basepaths.
RE: arc  
ZGiants98 : 7/30/2015 4:56 pm : link
In comment 12394557 Torrag said:
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I despise the Wilponsis and clearly feel the payroll is a serious issue for them. That said I believe Gomez hip could be bad. Compare his base running stats over his career. Something isn't kosher.


It's not even just the stolen bases either. His defense is down. His power is down. Something's not right with the guy.
Again  
Headhunter : 7/30/2015 4:57 pm : link
You throw the credibility of your Doctors out of the window? When a Team doctor says I never saw his medicals or his medicals were clean and I let Wilpon make me the fall guy. I'll apologize to you
Just keep in mind  
NYMase : 7/30/2015 4:58 pm : link
that Heyman is a mouthpiece for Boras and Boras is Gomez's agent
Snakebit  
spike : 7/30/2015 4:59 pm : link
Why do we invest so much in this team
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arcarsenal : 7/30/2015 4:59 pm : link
These doctors? They don't HAVE any fucking credibility. Timetables have been incorrect on every single injured player this year and we've had these issues forever now. Every single player has setbacks and misses more time. Every one.

I think there was one injury this year that was diagnosed with the correct timetable and that was Herrera.

How can anyone trust the medical opinions that come from this franchise? I know I don't.

Whatever, I'm just so sick of everything that comes along with this garbage franchise. If it was possible for me to bail and root for someone else, I would have done it years ago. It's just not in my DNA.
sorry arc I'm not buying it  
Torrag : 7/30/2015 5:00 pm : link
For once I believe the Mets are serious in their attempts to add a bat. Gomez fits their profile. He's only costing $9M for 2016. That's exactly the bargain prices these cheapskates like. This is just far too public a situation with terrible PR consequences. These slimeballs like to deal their dirt quietly in the shadows. Not in plain sight.
RE: Rflairr  
schabadoo : 7/30/2015 5:01 pm : link
In comment 12394511 Torrag said:
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It really started when Collins miscalculated with the pitching staff yet again by removing Niese an inning early.


Bullpen gives up 7 runs, blame manager.

I don't know why Niese didn't go one more. He wasn't great his last inning.
Yeah  
Headhunter : 7/30/2015 5:03 pm : link
the Doctors have no credibility, the probably got their degrees from a diploma Mill or are really horse doctors
Hoping something heats up again tonight  
ZGiants98 : 7/30/2015 5:03 pm : link
and materializes and helps salvage this rotten last 24 hours.
Familia is the new Benitez  
spike : 7/30/2015 5:03 pm : link
3 blown saves in a row
I've said this over and over with Collins and the pitching staff  
Torrag : 7/30/2015 5:06 pm : link
Pay attention. This isn't an isolated circumstance with this guy. He has mismanaged the pitching staff and BP in particular since he got to NY. Three times since the All Star Beak alone. He is directly responsible for questionable decisions that cost us games. A lot of games. It's been going on for years. He should never have been extended. It was the worst decision of Alderson's tenure as GM bar none imo.

If this team comes up two games shy of a playoff spot I won't be shaking my head wondering why. I already know why. Collins.
To suggest we couldn't  
ZGiants98 : 7/30/2015 5:06 pm : link
take on Gomez's 3 million dollars is borderline ludicrous. The deal was already agreed upon. Everyone has acknowledged this. It got squashed once the medicals were being reviewed. To think the Mets concocted an injury excuse so they could back out of acquiring 3 million dollars ON top of the fact that its clear as day Gomez IS injured and having a rotten season is unbelievable. It truly is.

That said I totally get why Mets fans are paranoid when it comes to finances so Im really not criticizing anyone here. It just really does seem unbelievable in this case.
Agree with Z  
Torrag : 7/30/2015 5:09 pm : link
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The deal was already agreed upon. Everyone has acknowledged this. It got squashed once the medicals were being reviewed.


This was far too public a decision for them to be playing fast and loose with. There was going to be a lot of public backlash if they dropped out at this stage. They avoid that like the plague.
Wally  
DanMetroMan : 7/30/2015 5:13 pm : link
Backman should be fired over the Leathersich/Black stuff. Anyone who trusts him with our young arms is out of their minds.
Dan agreed  
Torrag : 7/30/2015 5:15 pm : link
Backmon should have already gotten the axe for what happened.
Not  
DanMetroMan : 7/30/2015 5:16 pm : link
that anyone expected it but Parra won't be headed to the Mets either.
RE: Dan agreed  
DanMetroMan : 7/30/2015 5:17 pm : link
In comment 12394625 Torrag said:
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Backmon should have already gotten the axe for what happened.


I feel truly sad for Leathersich. Given the Mets current pen he likely loses on at MINIMUM a few hundred thousand dollars, if not more. Sad.
RE: Wally  
ZGiants98 : 7/30/2015 5:17 pm : link
In comment 12394623 DanMetroMan said:
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Backman should be fired over the Leathersich/Black stuff. Anyone who trusts him with our young arms is out of their minds.


One of the strangest things Ive ever seen. Im guessing Viola needs to share blame as well. How does the pitching coach not tell Backman to pull him either? Just horrible all around. Im still speechless.
No surprise considering the outcome of original Parra andGomez deals  
Torrag : 7/30/2015 5:19 pm : link
No trust left in that relationship at the moment.
Brewers reporters saying  
Rflairr : 7/30/2015 5:21 pm : link
it had more to do with the money than injury concerns. And I think they're probably getting that from Boras.

But Again until the Mets prove its not about the money. Everyone is going to be skeptical.
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