when the Loonie has declined so sharply? The effect of the fall of the C$ has effectively kept the NHL cap at inflation level raises for a few seasons, when all the other sports leagues are seeing massive revenue spikes due to the live TV premium for ads.
they have to make some kind of move, as constructed I think they are one top starter away. If they can't get a top starter I'd bolster the bullpen even more
they have to make some kind of move, as constructed I think they are one top starter away. If they can't get a top starter I'd bolster the bullpen even more
Mook,
I think that we might see them go after Kimbrel harder now. The Yankees might be in a position to swoop in on him as the other contenders have spent their prospects/money.
when the Loonie has declined so sharply? The effect of the fall of the C$ has effectively kept the NHL cap at inflation level raises for a few seasons, when all the other sports leagues are seeing massive revenue spikes due to the live TV premium for ads.
On the Yanks thread I talked about this. They're not going to be able to re-sign him, and if they want to beat out the Dodgers for his services they'll likely have to pay a steep, uh, price in prospects. So they're basically throwing everything into this season, which seems a bit silly considering how they have a fairly tough road to even make the playoffs at all.
they have to make some kind of move, as constructed I think they are one top starter away. If they can't get a top starter I'd bolster the bullpen even more
What're your thoughts on Leake? Seems like he'd be the best bargain of the SP bunch.
Just my own opinion, but Kimbrel isn't a good fit. He's going to whine about not closing and the Padres are going to ask for the moon for him. I could see, however, a deal for one of the Padres' starters (Cashner, Kennedy, maybe even Shields) and Benoit. Going back - Nova, Sanchez, and a second-tier prospect or two, maybe?
when the Loonie has declined so sharply? The effect of the fall of the C$ has effectively kept the NHL cap at inflation level raises for a few seasons, when all the other sports leagues are seeing massive revenue spikes due to the live TV premium for ads.
On the Yanks thread I talked about this. They're not going to be able to re-sign him, and if they want to beat out the Dodgers for his services they'll likely have to pay a steep, uh, price in prospects. So they're basically throwing everything into this season, which seems a bit silly considering how they have a fairly tough road to even make the playoffs at all.
Are they really adding payroll? I thought that Reyes and Tulo were basically a wash payroll wise, except for the length of the contract. Price would add some, but just for the end of the season.
Or are we talking mostly about the Donaldson deal too?
This move can really screw over the Jays in the future
if they can't sign him long term during the offseason. Not only that but they still have a legit chance at missing the playoffs completely this season. This could end up being pretty awful for their franchise depending on what they're giving up.
Jays somehow lost 2 ELITE prospects in Thor/TDA, a 3rd good one in Becerra, were able to trade for an MVP caliber 3b, one of the best SS in baseball and now Price with prospects still in the minors. Not really sure how all of this works with them still not being especially great but it's something to see lol
Declining numbers and he's going to cry about not closing. I'd rather get Benoit, and he'll be a lot cheaper too.
Benoit is declining and has been really lucky this season (BABIP). Eating Kimbrel's salary means we can get him for less. He can close and we keep Betances and Miller to set him up. Kimbrel was very recently the best closer in baseball and looking to build the best ever resume until this season. If he is inspired to pitch in NY he could be outstanding.
Cubs still in talks for Cashner/Ross. Wonder if we are interested in one of their starters.
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got hot after Price out of no where. With the injuries to the starters, they might see it as a chance to make up ground in the AL East quickly. If the Yankees are down 2 starters, heading into the dog days of August, they could come back to the pack quickly.
got hot after Price out of no where. With the injuries to the starters, they might see it as a chance to make up ground in the AL East quickly. If the Yankees are down 2 starters, heading into the dog days of August, they could come back to the pack quickly.
Exactly. Toronto or balt. May now be closing on yanks
Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 27s28 seconds ago
Still working to talk to more people, but told by #Yankees exec Pineda dealing with forearm muscle strain not elbow, not considered serious
Just my own opinion, but Kimbrel isn't a good fit. He's going to whine about not closing and the Padres are going to ask for the moon for him. I could see, however, a deal for one of the Padres' starters (Cashner, Kennedy, maybe even Shields) and Benoit. Going back - Nova, Sanchez, and a second-tier prospect or two, maybe?
You keep saying that about Kimbrel whining about closing, but I'll guarantee you that Kimbrel would be closing of the Yankees land him. Not that I think he's better than the other two, but it's just common sense. The other two have been set up men and and would actually help them immensely if Miller was available for matchups/multiple innings rather than be tied down to the ninth inning.
if the Yanks don't deal for a quality pitcher at the deadline and they get passed for the division lead. He sat on his hands and let Toronto make all the moves
if the Yanks don't deal for a quality pitcher at the deadline and they get passed for the division lead. He sat on his hands and let Toronto make all the moves
Especially now with Pineda going to the DL for probably a month. If the Yanks were mediocre or the AL was tough this year, I would get it, but neither of those are the case. The AL is wide open and the Yanks are one of the top 2 teams in the AL.
Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 27s27 seconds ago
#Yankees could put Warren back into rotation and further build pen by playing big on a Chapman or Kimbrel, or perhaps a Benoit type
if the Yanks don't deal for a quality pitcher at the deadline and they get passed for the division lead. He sat on his hands and let Toronto make all the moves
Especially now with Pineda going to the DL for probably a month. If the Yanks were mediocre or the AL was tough this year, I would get it, but neither of those are the case. The AL is wide open and the Yanks are one of the top 2 teams in the AL.
With Pineda out 4-6 weeks, Nova possibly needing a start off and Tanaka a ticking time bomb, it is malpractice for Cashman not to get a good starting pitcher
if the Yanks don't deal for a quality pitcher at the deadline and they get passed for the division lead. He sat on his hands and let Toronto make all the moves
Especially now with Pineda going to the DL for probably a month. If the Yanks were mediocre or the AL was tough this year, I would get it, but neither of those are the case. The AL is wide open and the Yanks are one of the top 2 teams in the AL.
With Pineda out 4-6 weeks, Nova possibly needing a start off and Tanaka a ticking time bomb, it is malpractice for Cashman not to get a good starting pitcher
Or he is yet to make his move - OR - he knows his players better than you do.
Mark Feinsand
✔ @FeinsandNYDN
Am told that Nova's health is not a concern for the Yankees. He's still in line to make his next start.
2:00 PM - 30 Jul 2015
if the Yanks don't deal for a quality pitcher at the deadline and they get passed for the division lead. He sat on his hands and let Toronto make all the moves
Especially now with Pineda going to the DL for probably a month. If the Yanks were mediocre or the AL was tough this year, I would get it, but neither of those are the case. The AL is wide open and the Yanks are one of the top 2 teams in the AL.
With Pineda out 4-6 weeks, Nova possibly needing a start off and Tanaka a ticking time bomb, it is malpractice for Cashman not to get a good starting pitcher
Or he is yet to make his move - OR - he knows his players better than you do.
He better get a starting pitcher because our #1, #2, and #4 starters are either hurt, pitching hurt or going through a dead arm period
if the Yanks don't deal for a quality pitcher at the deadline and they get passed for the division lead. He sat on his hands and let Toronto make all the moves
Especially now with Pineda going to the DL for probably a month. If the Yanks were mediocre or the AL was tough this year, I would get it, but neither of those are the case. The AL is wide open and the Yanks are one of the top 2 teams in the AL.
Pineda has not been that effective for a few weeks. I think you could argue Warren could have been just as effective, if not better, as Pineda.
if the Yanks don't deal for a quality pitcher at the deadline and they get passed for the division lead. He sat on his hands and let Toronto make all the moves
Especially now with Pineda going to the DL for probably a month. If the Yanks were mediocre or the AL was tough this year, I would get it, but neither of those are the case. The AL is wide open and the Yanks are one of the top 2 teams in the AL.
With Pineda out 4-6 weeks, Nova possibly needing a start off and Tanaka a ticking time bomb, it is malpractice for Cashman not to get a good starting pitcher
Cashman won't be fired, though. They love him. He's been here for seemingly ever.
if the Yanks don't deal for a quality pitcher at the deadline and they get passed for the division lead. He sat on his hands and let Toronto make all the moves
Especially now with Pineda going to the DL for probably a month. If the Yanks were mediocre or the AL was tough this year, I would get it, but neither of those are the case. The AL is wide open and the Yanks are one of the top 2 teams in the AL.
Pineda has not been that effective for a few weeks. I think you could argue Warren could have been just as effective, if not better, as Pineda.
Because in 2015 he isn't as good as either Miller or Betances. Not even close to as good, actually.
So you think that the only factor in deciding a closer is which one is pitching better? Seriously? I'd repeat my earlier post on why it makes more sense for Kimbrel to close, but what's the sense. You read it. Bottom line is deciding which of the 3 pitchers closes has many different angles. Their comfort zones (Betances and Miller both have extensive experience setting up) and the flexibility of having Miller available in situations outside of the 9th inning would all be factors in the decision.
Or you can just say that you don't like Kimbrel, so he definitely wouldn't be the closer.
Papelbon isn't having as good a year as Storen, for instance
but gues what? Storen has more experience in other roles, so it made more sense to move him rather than have Papelbon in a role that he's unfamiliar or just doesn't like..
RE: Well, for one thing, you're forgetting that Miller was out for a month
And that wouldn't be Craig Kimbrel. Sorry. I really couldn't give a shit about his supposed comfort zone. On the Yankees, he's the third best reliever....maybe. Shreve is having a better year than him too.
My objection is paying a premium for Kimbrel and handing him a job just because he's a big name when he's clearly an inferior pitcher to Betances and Miller.
You act as if the 7th and 8th aren't just as important. That's bullshit. Betances is MUCH more valuable to this team being able to go multiple innings in the 7th and 8th. I'd much rather have him in the role that he's been in compared to closing. That doesn't mean that he's not as good, but he's more valuable in that role. And having Miller in a similar role could be great for this team. Sometimes, the tough lefties are coming up in the 7th or 8th. Having Miller available to come in then would be a good problem to have. Stop taking it like it's an insult. That's ridiculous.
but I'm glad the Yankees didn't trade the farm for any of these guys. I'm tired of these wrong-side-of-30 fat cat mercenaries (Price may be 29, but still). What made the late-90s dynasty team so exciting was that the core were homegrown guys, with a few Scott Brosius types off the scrap-heap who anyone could've had.
I don't follow the minors as much as some guys on here, but it seems like they have some bona fide players who are close to the ML level. The Yankees are in first by a pretty nice margin--no need to panic and overpay. Slide Warren into the Pineda slot, and if needed, give the guy who so impressively cleaned up Capuano's mess a shot.
yea..him too..missed the S
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Couldn't resist. Would not be a great outcome for the Yanks for him to end up there. But, better in the long run
than overpaying for the rental.
Mook,
I think that we might see them go after Kimbrel harder now. The Yankees might be in a position to swoop in on him as the other contenders have spent their prospects/money.
On the Yanks thread I talked about this. They're not going to be able to re-sign him, and if they want to beat out the Dodgers for his services they'll likely have to pay a steep, uh, price in prospects. So they're basically throwing everything into this season, which seems a bit silly considering how they have a fairly tough road to even make the playoffs at all.
What're your thoughts on Leake? Seems like he'd be the best bargain of the SP bunch.
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when the Loonie has declined so sharply? The effect of the fall of the C$ has effectively kept the NHL cap at inflation level raises for a few seasons, when all the other sports leagues are seeing massive revenue spikes due to the live TV premium for ads.
On the Yanks thread I talked about this. They're not going to be able to re-sign him, and if they want to beat out the Dodgers for his services they'll likely have to pay a steep, uh, price in prospects. So they're basically throwing everything into this season, which seems a bit silly considering how they have a fairly tough road to even make the playoffs at all.
Are they really adding payroll? I thought that Reyes and Tulo were basically a wash payroll wise, except for the length of the contract. Price would add some, but just for the end of the season.
Or are we talking mostly about the Donaldson deal too?
Glad the Yankees didn't try to compete by throwing in Severino or Judge. Now move on to Kimbrel and a solid starter who can help.
Benoit is declining and has been really lucky this season (BABIP). Eating Kimbrel's salary means we can get him for less. He can close and we keep Betances and Miller to set him up. Kimbrel was very recently the best closer in baseball and looking to build the best ever resume until this season. If he is inspired to pitch in NY he could be outstanding.
Cubs still in talks for Cashner/Ross. Wonder if we are interested in one of their starters.
like you friggin know what the fuck price is going to do
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Meaning it is as likely not to be true?
Knew things were going way too well this year to not have something like this happen.
Damn if true. Need another starter for sure
I'm sure Price will want to pitch in a launching pad....
Exactly. Toronto or balt. May now be closing on yanks
Still working to talk to more people, but told by #Yankees exec Pineda dealing with forearm muscle strain not elbow, not considered serious
You keep saying that about Kimbrel whining about closing, but I'll guarantee you that Kimbrel would be closing of the Yankees land him. Not that I think he's better than the other two, but it's just common sense. The other two have been set up men and and would actually help them immensely if Miller was available for matchups/multiple innings rather than be tied down to the ninth inning.
Miller: 34.1 IP, 1.57 ERA, 12 H, 11 BB, 54 K, 0.670 WHIP, 250 ERA+
Kimbrel: 39 IP, 2.75 ERA, 29 H, 15 BB, 55 K, 1.119 WHIP, 130 ERA+
Especially now with Pineda going to the DL for probably a month. If the Yanks were mediocre or the AL was tough this year, I would get it, but neither of those are the case. The AL is wide open and the Yanks are one of the top 2 teams in the AL.
#Yankees could put Warren back into rotation and further build pen by playing big on a Chapman or Kimbrel, or perhaps a Benoit type
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if the Yanks don't deal for a quality pitcher at the deadline and they get passed for the division lead. He sat on his hands and let Toronto make all the moves
Especially now with Pineda going to the DL for probably a month. If the Yanks were mediocre or the AL was tough this year, I would get it, but neither of those are the case. The AL is wide open and the Yanks are one of the top 2 teams in the AL.
With Pineda out 4-6 weeks, Nova possibly needing a start off and Tanaka a ticking time bomb, it is malpractice for Cashman not to get a good starting pitcher
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if the Yanks don't deal for a quality pitcher at the deadline and they get passed for the division lead. He sat on his hands and let Toronto make all the moves
Especially now with Pineda going to the DL for probably a month. If the Yanks were mediocre or the AL was tough this year, I would get it, but neither of those are the case. The AL is wide open and the Yanks are one of the top 2 teams in the AL.
With Pineda out 4-6 weeks, Nova possibly needing a start off and Tanaka a ticking time bomb, it is malpractice for Cashman not to get a good starting pitcher
Or he is yet to make his move - OR - he knows his players better than you do.
Mark Feinsand
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Am told that Nova's health is not a concern for the Yankees. He's still in line to make his next start.
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if the Yanks don't deal for a quality pitcher at the deadline and they get passed for the division lead. He sat on his hands and let Toronto make all the moves
Especially now with Pineda going to the DL for probably a month. If the Yanks were mediocre or the AL was tough this year, I would get it, but neither of those are the case. The AL is wide open and the Yanks are one of the top 2 teams in the AL.
With Pineda out 4-6 weeks, Nova possibly needing a start off and Tanaka a ticking time bomb, it is malpractice for Cashman not to get a good starting pitcher
Or he is yet to make his move - OR - he knows his players better than you do.
He better get a starting pitcher because our #1, #2, and #4 starters are either hurt, pitching hurt or going through a dead arm period
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if the Yanks don't deal for a quality pitcher at the deadline and they get passed for the division lead. He sat on his hands and let Toronto make all the moves
Especially now with Pineda going to the DL for probably a month. If the Yanks were mediocre or the AL was tough this year, I would get it, but neither of those are the case. The AL is wide open and the Yanks are one of the top 2 teams in the AL.
Pineda has not been that effective for a few weeks. I think you could argue Warren could have been just as effective, if not better, as Pineda.
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if the Yanks don't deal for a quality pitcher at the deadline and they get passed for the division lead. He sat on his hands and let Toronto make all the moves
Especially now with Pineda going to the DL for probably a month. If the Yanks were mediocre or the AL was tough this year, I would get it, but neither of those are the case. The AL is wide open and the Yanks are one of the top 2 teams in the AL.
With Pineda out 4-6 weeks, Nova possibly needing a start off and Tanaka a ticking time bomb, it is malpractice for Cashman not to get a good starting pitcher
Cashman won't be fired, though. They love him. He's been here for seemingly ever.
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if the Yanks don't deal for a quality pitcher at the deadline and they get passed for the division lead. He sat on his hands and let Toronto make all the moves
Especially now with Pineda going to the DL for probably a month. If the Yanks were mediocre or the AL was tough this year, I would get it, but neither of those are the case. The AL is wide open and the Yanks are one of the top 2 teams in the AL.
Pineda has not been that effective for a few weeks. I think you could argue Warren could have been just as effective, if not better, as Pineda.
Agree.
LOL hey don't start no rumors!
So you think that the only factor in deciding a closer is which one is pitching better? Seriously? I'd repeat my earlier post on why it makes more sense for Kimbrel to close, but what's the sense. You read it. Bottom line is deciding which of the 3 pitchers closes has many different angles. Their comfort zones (Betances and Miller both have extensive experience setting up) and the flexibility of having Miller available in situations outside of the 9th inning would all be factors in the decision.
Or you can just say that you don't like Kimbrel, so he definitely wouldn't be the closer.
Miller: 34.1 IP, 1.57 ERA, 12 H, 11 BB, 54 K, 0.670 WHIP, 250 ERA+
Kimbrel: 39 IP, 2.75 ERA, 29 H, 15 BB, 55 K, 1.119 WHIP, 130 ERA+
Those numbers are absurd.
My objection is paying a premium for Kimbrel and handing him a job just because he's a big name when he's clearly an inferior pitcher to Betances and Miller.
Still ain't catching the Yanks.
Screw the Jays...let them chase us, their bullpen still sucks balls
I don't follow the minors as much as some guys on here, but it seems like they have some bona fide players who are close to the ML level. The Yankees are in first by a pretty nice margin--no need to panic and overpay. Slide Warren into the Pineda slot, and if needed, give the guy who so impressively cleaned up Capuano's mess a shot.