NFT: * | Yankees (57-43) @ Rangers (48-52) , Thursday Ed.

Gregorius now has a higher batting average (.258) than Beltràn (.254), McCann (.250) and Teixeira (.257).

He is our hero

pretty disappointed that he is being shut down. Really need him to take this time and get healthy so we can rely on him for the stretch run.

opposite field flare for a double and an error on Rua

that turns into a triple with a strange hop past Rua.

when it deflected off a divot? That's not an error unless they give it to the grounds-keeper.

Sacfly Gardy 1-0

In comment 12394918 RasputinPrime said:

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when it deflected off a divot? That's not an error unless they give it to the grounds-keeper. Sacfly Gardy 1-0

Whatever it is, we'll take it. We'll use everything we can get with CC out there

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Tex popped that one

2-0

2-0 Good Guys.

drilled it to CF.

2-0

if we bomb him...he's actually a pretty solid pitcher most of the time

He got jammed a little but still muscled it into left center for a hit and it's 3-0

walk Beltràn, single Headley.

3-0

3-0 Yanks.

bunt hit. CC already sweating.

I love ya CC but my how the mighty have fallen.

off CC with 2 outs. He is hard to watch

CC gives up a Hamilton.

To say we need another starter is an understatement.

right down the middle to Josh Hamilton.

CC should be DFA'd just like Capuano..

HOU / get Gomez and Fiers

MIL / get Phillips , Santana, Hader and Houser.

Seems like a better package than what they were getting from the Mets.

CC's WAR entering this game was exactly 0

Latos
Wood
Johnson
Morse
Avilan
Arroyo
Peraza

All in one trade? The Dodgers more banged up than I thought.

$25 million in 2016 and a vesting option of $25 million in 2017 if he does not suffer a left shoulder injury

buyout in 2017. I'm thinking they take that option.

two homers to left-handed hitters now. Choo choo train.

This loyalty can only go so far

5.65.

He can have Capuano's old job. We need another starter if only to replace CC in the rotation.

Guck loyalties, his useless, can't hold a lead, and has not adapted to his diminished stuff. Thanks for the first 600 inns or so, but we don't want anymore.

LOL.

In comment 12394981 Pego61 said:

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buyout in 2017. I'm thinking they take that option.

Don't think they can do that if his option vests

there are multiple guys in AAA who couldn't be any worse. He's finished and has been ever since JerseyJoe proclaimed him back in spring training 2014.

Yanks retake the lead for a moment, 5-4

the horizon.

5-4

Beltran follows with what would have been an HR in Yankees stadium.

YES!

and you put him in the bullpen, he's now your long man. For the next 2 years. That's not what you want. There is no good answer to the CC problem.

In comment 12395019 Pego61 said:

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and you put him in the bullpen, he's now your long man. For the next 2 years. That's not what you want. There is no good answer to the CC problem.

The best answer is to trade him to the Dodgers. They are the only uncapped team in baseball and they owe us.

the problem is he has horrible command. He never learned to pitch and with mediocre stuff he is just not going to get guys out. We can't leave him out there for 200 innings a year because that will hurt our chances at winning games. He is going to have a 6.00 ERA by the end of this outing.

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sucks

Andrus loses his mind and tries to tag up at 1st to go to 2nd and Ellsbury throws him out

Are going to kill our bullpen down the stretch ..

leads off with a line drive for a hit

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In comment 12395050 Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) said:

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Are going to kill our bullpen down the stretch ..

Yep. Might not be a bad idea to get another reliever.

with Didi on third.

Ellsbury went for the diving catch but it went by him all the way to the CF fence, and that was that

If so put his ass on the bench the rest of the night. Probably doesn't make a difference but he didn't move an inch when that ball was hit. What ever happened to backing up an outfielder?

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from Beltran. That infuriates me. Go sit on the bench

when the Yanks are not at the plate.

play of the year... On what planet do make a halfassed attempt with no chance of any backup by grandpa Beltran on a

what a surprise. He can't play on this team because we have ARod now entrenched at DH. We should have been looking to move him.

5-5

CC not lucky in giving up his 3rd HR of the game.

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that the announcers made no mention of Beltrán's lack of hustle to back up there. As the ball was rolling to the wall, I was yelling at the TV.

he'd probably just have given up an over the fence HR shortly thereafter anyway

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that the announcers made no mention of Beltrán's lack of hustle to back up there. As the ball was rolling to the wall, I was yelling at the TV.

The did mention it..

Have to rely on cc for most part until...

Pounce here & then go to the pen in the bottom of the inning.

to first. One away. Beltran up.

tattooed him that inning with nothing to show for it...

out of there now!!!

should not pitch to Beltre

Be allowed to pitch to Hamilton!!!!!

bunts 2 foul then takes strike three.

How much weight does he lose in one game pitching in 100 F temps in a gray flannel suit? Sweat is just pouring off of him.

bases juiced for Hamilton and he put everything into that swing. Whew.

in the 6th. Just can't do it.

now.

base hit. Painful.

period

Gotta like our chances now.

7 "quality" starts out of 19. He's given up 24 homers in those starts.

Saves the day.

But that's the kind of pitcher he is now. He has no velocity and no deception to him, so any mistake he makes will get pounded. When he threw 95-97, he could get away with a few mistakes and just blow people away. Now, when you throw 91 over the middle, it's night night.

In comment 12395148 PetesHereNow said:

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But that's the kind of pitcher he is now. He has no velocity and no deception to him, so any mistake he makes will get pounded. When he threw 95-97, he could get away with a few mistakes and just blow people away. Now, when you throw 91 over the middle, it's night night.

And if this was going to change, it would have by now. He know he isn't just loafing it. He was done after his age 31 season. Insane.

I still remember him pitching on short rest just to get MIL into the playoffs to lose in round 1. 130, 140 pitch efforts.. eventually your arm just says, "fuck, I'm done throwing that hard."

I was hopeful he would evolve into a Mussina or Andy-type, but it's clear that's not happening.

Tex 3-3 with 2 HRs and a walk

Big fly. Paging Mr. Miller and Mr. Betances.

BOOM!!!!

another bomb to CF caught by a fatass who throws it back.

6-5

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and threw it right back on the field

that was a nice running catch lol

especially, like here, where they jump onto common-areas to get the ball?

Hopefully they are taken out back and flogged before being kicked out permanently.

we'd have 50 homers by August.

after doing a really good job in the 6th. Betances warming up quickly

Betances in now.

jesus.

how dumb that play was by Drew. Take the fucking out.

And fuck Andrus. That's a dirty slide. Absolute trash player doing trash things

The only play there is to 1st. There's no double play in order

and gets Didi destroyed at second base on a slide in the process. What a disaster of a play that was.

6-6

How is he a Yankee. It's a disgrace to the uniform.

punched in his PeePee!

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interference by Andrus?

is sliding under Didi with his arms up. Looks like he is going to shake it off.

Drew has got to go. Now we are trying to hold on as Andrus steals third. Headley picks the horrible McCann throw to save a run.

against Betances

now get Hamilton here.

I know that I'm late to the party but what a shit throw and decision by Drew

I don't blame him.

but Drew's moronic decision probably cost him the 8th

set that up perfectly.

Nice! Off speed!

In comment 12395198 dpinzow said:

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but Drew's moronic decision probably cost him the 8th

True. Who will pitch the 8th now?

in the 7th if he intended to take Wilson out after one batter.
Still don't know how that slide wasn't interference. You can't extend your arms to break up a DP.

Os lose

Beltran!

Last inning. Fortunate to still be tied. Other news: O's come back from down 7 early to get within 1 in a 9-8 game going into their half of the 9th, get a guy on with 2 out, and then lose it.

Drew with a bloop. Cmon Ellsbury.

bases loaded for Gardner. We need some clutchness.

Gardy didn't look like he knew what was coming.

That half-inning sums up this game

guy gives up 2 hits and 2 walks, couldn't find the plate with a map to Didi or Ellsbury then starts Gardy off with 2 seeds on the outside corner.

and we can't capitalize? I'm telling you, people can whine about the pitching all they want, it's the hitting in tight games that's going to end up telling the tale.

plate and then throws 3 mid 90s FBs. WTF?

is nasty. Sometimes it has a KC break, other times it looks more like a slider.

MLB debut now...?

I remember when we drafted him reading how he would get fast-tracked as a solid late inning prospect. Let's see it kid!

to warm up his breaking ball.

And then Joey Binders take him out...

Does it matter if Betances is throwing 29 pitches and getting you 5 outs or throwing 34-35 pitches and getting you 6 outs?

makes it even more annoying that we couldn't score a run there. Not loving Nick Goody pitching to Chirinos. He has power.

nice

make the kid a winner.

first K.

Need just one more for the Yankees.

or maybe Teix gets his 3rd...

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here we go.

I wish we had Heathcott or Williams.

wasn't even remotely close to being a strike

In comment 12395246 MookGiants said:

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wasn't even remotely close to being a strike

Nor called a strike during this game before now.

Can somebody get a hit..?

In comment 12395247 RasputinPrime said:

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In comment 12395246 MookGiants said: Quote: wasn't even remotely close to being a strike Nor called a strike during this game before now.

Really? He called two on Gardy last inning.

Beltran and McCann had balls go to the fence that didn't go

was lights out at AA, you're pretty much playing with house money as far as he's concerned but he could be a factor in the pen going forward too.

that is an out in Texas. Man he has missed about 4 homers in this series.

now everything is a strike. alrighty then...

extras are the best we can hope for.

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someone that could steal a base there would be fricking splendid. Now we're minus ARod, and possibly screwed. Can't believe Teix swung at that awful 2-2 pitch.

That's stomach churning. He's an atrocious offensive player.

not cool

OK kid. Not smart.

virtually no offense the last 7 innings. Our BP can't lose these games to a team like Texas and their thoroughly mediocre pen.

If Miller was coming in whenever Goody gave up a baserunner, let him pitch the fucking 10th inning from the beginning. If the plan is to use him in a tie game with a runner on to get 3 outs, then let him get 3 outs to start the inning.

Why start a guy then pull him. If he's on that short a leash, then Goody should not have started the inning and Miller should have.

Got to get these guys out.

In comment 12395273 section125 said:

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Why start a guy then pull him. If he's on that short a leash, then Goody should not have started the inning and Miller should have.

stealing the thoughts from my mind :)

Ellsbury made a great catch at the fence. I've been posting a lot of WAR's lately, and Andrus is a pathetic 0.3, so this is probably his best night of the season offensively. Hopefully Ellsbury is OK

hit the wall. Hope his body is going to hold up. He had to go back a long way on that one.

In comment 12395275 PetesHereNow said:

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In comment 12395273 section125 said: Quote: Why start a guy then pull him. If he's on that short a leash, then Goody should not have started the inning and Miller should have. stealing the thoughts from my mind :)

Was popping in to say the same thing. Give the kid a chance.

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probably first and third there if it gets through

Leonys Martin hits a bullet that would have gone into right and given Texas 1st and 3rd. Instead the ball hits DeShields who is out and Martin gets credited with 1st base

should have been a single to RF but it hits DeShields.

pitching around Beltre

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when a lefty throws that it is usually a strike because it cuts the plate

Now the winning run is on 2nd for Hamilton

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ballgame.

squeezing the crap out of Miller so he has to lay one in to Hamilton who gets the game-winning hit

we should have won at least 3 different times. Leave it to the ump and you'll get fumped.

Walking guys like that.

Miller was getting squeezed and didn't have it. Bad combo.

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Should have left Goody in and saved Miller for extras.

that was a back and forth game. Been a rough 2 games but we have to bounce back.

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those two have been perfect almost all year, today they weren't (especially Miller) and it was the difference.

job in this series, we were lucky to get a split. Decent SP and we take 3 out of 4. CC is finished, I hope he's ok but the dehydration part is on him... They all know how hot it is in Texas and you need to hydrate the day BEFORE so you dont get dehydrated.

Leake, Hamels, and Price are all gone and they knew the Yanks werent given up the farm.

Yankees need an innings eater, like Iwakuma or Sheilds but I fear teams will see the Yankees as desperate now an ask for the world.

Beltran needs t be DH only, his effort and lack of speed is killing them in the OF.

How ineffective has he become. Why is it guys who throw similarly to the way he throws now as opposed to the way he threw can be so effective yet he struggles game in and game out.

CC still throws a nice sweeping curveball. His change up is the same. Bottom line he has all the pitches he had before except that overpowering fastball. And it's not like he relied solely on his fastball in previous years. He knew how to pitch. He constantly caves in. Joe has to look at it and say this guy is not coming around to where he thought would be.

With the staff in a bit of disarray maybe now that Adam Warren has had a few weeks off to recharge his batteries and save his innings total they will put him back in the rotation. As for CC, he's giving them nothing but heartburn. Any other pitcher in that rotation at this point would probably be vanquished to the bullpen. Joe has a tough decision to make here. He really does. He knows what he has to do but does he have the nerve to sit an aging veteran who has in the past been a rock but no longer has the chops to get it done.

For dehydration, and was taken to Medical Center of Arlington for fluids.

How much does he earn per start... F'n pathetic!

Linky~dinky
Was I too abusive calling him a Slob... - ( New Window )

In comment 12395360 Run with 81 said:

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For dehydration, and was taken to Medical Center of Arlington for fluids. How much does he earn per start... F'n pathetic!

see my 9:53:

CC out of the jam.
Del Shofner : 7/30/2015 9:53 pm : link : reply
How much weight does he lose in one game pitching in 100 F temps in a gray flannel suit? Sweat is just pouring off of him.

CC "Can't Cover" Brown.
CC "Can't Cut it" Sabbathia

In comment 12395396 Del Shofner said:

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In comment 12395360 Run with 81 said: Quote: For dehydration, and was taken to Medical Center of Arlington for fluids. How much does he earn per start... F'n pathetic! see my 9:53: CC out of the jam. Del Shofner : 7/30/2015 9:53 pm : link : reply How much weight does he lose in one game pitching in 100 F temps in a gray flannel suit? Sweat is just pouring off of him.

Helped Yanks win their last championship in 2009. Yes,he's deteriorated into someone who should not be in the rotation but as an athlete he's going to take the ball & give you the best he has. The onus falls on management & Giradi-do they bite the bullet, make CC the long man in the BP or do they continue to worry about the $$$ & run him out there? With the Pineda injury & Nova's recovery from TJ, the question is who replaces CC? In house, Severino & Mitchell can fill slots & if they make a deal(s) by 4:00 today, Warren can return as well. I guess by late this afternoon we'll have a better handle on what they're doing going forward!

would give us the best bullpen in the league.

In comment 12395435 TheMick7 said:

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In comment 12395396 Del Shofner said: Quote: In comment 12395360 Run with 81 said: Quote: For dehydration, and was taken to Medical Center of Arlington for fluids. How much does he earn per start... F'n pathetic! see my 9:53: CC out of the jam. Del Shofner : 7/30/2015 9:53 pm : link : reply How much weight does he lose in one game pitching in 100 F temps in a gray flannel suit? Sweat is just pouring off of him. Helped Yanks win their last championship in 2009. Yes,he's deteriorated into someone who should not be in the rotation but as an athlete he's going to take the ball & give you the best he has. The onus falls on management & Giradi-do they bite the bullet, make CC the long man in the BP or do they continue to worry about the $$$ & run him out there? With the Pineda injury & Nova's recovery from TJ, the question is who replaces CC? In house, Severino & Mitchell can fill slots & if they make a deal(s) by 4:00 today, Warren can return as well. I guess by late this afternoon we'll have a better handle on what they're doing going forward!

The mistake made is in signing these over 30 guys when they opt out. Let somebody else pay him. The Yanks already got his prime. I think they have learned that lesson.

In comment 12395440 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:

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would give us the best bullpen in the league.

Astros supposedly in hunt as well & looking to expand it to include Ross or Cashner!

the Yanks aren't getting in on long contracts with guys over 30. The prospects the Yanks would have had to give up to get Price would also have made it almost a necessity to resign him after the season- and he would have been starting a long term contract at age 31.

The same story for Hamels- and adding in the fact that Hamels had a poor record against the AL teams.

The Yanks are in a tough spot on CC- he is signed through next year, and likely 2017 as well- his option vets automatically unless his left shoulder causes him to end the 2016 season or spend a long stretch of the 2016 season on the DL. CC's shoulder has not been the problem, so I imagine that he is he for 2 more seasons- at $25M per. The only choice they really have in 2016 is to run him out there and hope for an ARod/Tex like resurgence.

I think that with Pineda down, maybe they look at a rentl SP who can eat 6-8 starts. Personally, I like Iwakuma. However, I won't be upset if they get a high end closer type, so long as the "big 4" prospects are not involved.

Remember that in the post-season, teams only use 3 or 4 man rotations, depending how the off-days fall. That means that CC is almost certainly NOT going to be a post-season SP. Tanaka and Pineda (assuming health) are locks. Eovaldi would be either the 3 or 4 guy. I think the Yanks would like to use Severino as the final SP- but we will see how they use him in the next month. If they acquire a SP who can make post-season starts better than Nova or CC, that could change as well.

His fast ball is 90's but straight as an arrow. His breaking ball is like a Frisbee. It's a cement mixer that says Hit Me!!
Time to put him out to pasture. I'd use him for long relief to eat innings and move Warren back into the starting rotation. Severino will be called up in Sept.

CC got to pick up behind Tanaka, Warren/Evoldi. Til Nova is more rested and pinadagets back.

Just a matter if they go after a starter or not.