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NFT: Jay Bruce to the Mets for Zack Wheeler?

sphinx : 7/30/2015 7:40 pm
Buster Olney & #8207;@Buster_ESPN 3m3 minutes ago
Reds willing to trade Jay Bruce to the Mets for Zack Wheeler now. Worth watching over the next 20 hours.

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fulmer is a legit  
sshin05 : 7/31/2015 3:59 pm : link
prospect, but the mets have traded 5 arms in this deadline. Damn.
Ah.  
ZGiants98 : 7/31/2015 4:00 pm : link
Fulmer will sting.
I thought it might be Fulmer  
ZGiants98 : 7/31/2015 4:00 pm : link
Could care less about Cessa.
Ill feel a lot better...  
Italianju : 7/31/2015 4:00 pm : link
about losing fulmer if they were to resign cespedes, but im not too confident in that. That said we kept wheeler so im happy about that. You werent getting Cespedes for Gsellman and Montero, you have to give to get.
.  
arcarsenal : 7/31/2015 4:00 pm : link
I don't think we even have a Fueller.. it's Fulmer.
this make me lol  
Josh in the City : 7/31/2015 4:00 pm : link
@GottliebShow
The #Mets= worlds most annoying shopper-bought a CF,kept receipt,took him back,thought about Bruce,too expensive,got Cespedes on sale rack
thx sshin wasn't sure about Smoker  
Torrag : 7/31/2015 4:01 pm : link
Fulmer would hurt as much as Wheeler for me. That's a steep price. This team could win a championship with Cespedes. It's a longshot but it is possible. If it turns out to be Fulmer I think you'd have to do it.
Hurts.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/31/2015 4:01 pm : link
When we're not gonna keep him.

But at least we have Harvey, Thor, and JDG.
If we  
Metnut : 7/31/2015 4:02 pm : link
sign Cespedes, I'm fine with losing Fulmer. If not, well... lets make the fucking playoffs.
no room for fulmer at the inn  
sshin05 : 7/31/2015 4:02 pm : link
wheeler on the mend, montero on the mend, niese still around.
Oh well.  
ZGiants98 : 7/31/2015 4:02 pm : link
Still have Wheeler back next June and Montero and Niese. We should be fine. And the dream rotation is still in tact. I knew it would be somebody good though.
Had to give up something at some point  
gmen9892 : 7/31/2015 4:02 pm : link
Sad to see Fulmer go, but Im not going to cry over getting a new middle of the order power bat. Would be nice if we could sign the guy.

Just love that Sandy finally showed us that hes got a pulse and took a risk. Whether it pans out or not, I cant fault him for making the move.
RE: thx sshin wasn't sure about Smoker  
sshin05 : 7/31/2015 4:03 pm : link
In comment 12396827 Torrag said:
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Fulmer would hurt as much as Wheeler for me. That's a steep price. This team could win a championship with Cespedes. It's a longshot but it is possible. If it turns out to be Fulmer I think you'd have to do it.


Smoker is a reclamation prospect but throws mid to high 90's from the left side. Killing it in AA right now but he's sorta old at 26.
I've seen Wheeler pitch  
Headhunter : 7/31/2015 4:04 pm : link
and I've never seen a picture of Fulmer.Fulmer might be great and win a couple of Cy Youngs but I am thrilled to see that ZW will be on the bump for the Mets next June, thrilled
RE: Had to give up something at some point  
sshin05 : 7/31/2015 4:04 pm : link
In comment 12396842 gmen9892 said:
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Sad to see Fulmer go, but Im not going to cry over getting a new middle of the order power bat. Would be nice if we could sign the guy.

Just love that Sandy finally showed us that hes got a pulse and took a risk. Whether it pans out or not, I cant fault him for making the move.


About 4 mil left on his contract from what i read, i wonder if the mets are actually going ot pick that up
RE: no room for fulmer at the inn  
speedywheels : 7/31/2015 4:04 pm : link
In comment 12396838 sshin05 said:
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wheeler on the mend, montero on the mend, niese still around.


Montero still has sore shoulder. But Matz is on the mend as well
If we cut bait with many of our free agents  
Torrag : 7/31/2015 4:05 pm : link
We might be able to coax Fred into opening his checkbook. Especially if Cespedes gets here and goes on a romp. That's what we have to hope for as Mets fans on both counts.

Now fire Collins so he doesn't hold the team back.
Are the Mets sending a jet or helicopter to pick..  
Italianju : 7/31/2015 4:05 pm : link
him up from Baltimore??
Finally we can say  
Chris684 : 7/31/2015 4:07 pm : link
The Mets stepped up. Good for them.

I think this is an excellent trade, let's hope they do what's necessary when it's time to retain him.
RE: Are the Mets sending a jet or helicopter to pick..  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/31/2015 4:07 pm : link
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him up from Baltimore??


It's the Mets. They set up an Uber ride.
RE: RE: Are the Mets sending a jet or helicopter to pick..  
sshin05 : 7/31/2015 4:09 pm : link
In comment 12396880 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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him up from Baltimore??



It's the Mets. They set up an Uber ride.


Acela is faster and cheaper, sandy would advise that.
fulmer's  
sshin05 : 7/31/2015 4:10 pm : link
numbers this season are sick. So tigers got a pretty good player.

BTW bing lost conforto, nimmo, and fulmer. They are probably going to struggle
Fulmer stings  
ZGiants98 : 7/31/2015 4:11 pm : link
But I am so fucking happy right now. I'm sorry but this is a much bigger bat than Gomez. Back to an A+ deadline for me. Three big bats and a setup man/closer is as much as we could have ever dreamed for and we got the best bat on the entire market(sorry Tulo). Now let's get some players back and make the damn playoffs.
RE: Are the Mets sending a jet or helicopter to pick..  
Jim in Fairfax : 7/31/2015 4:13 pm : link
In comment 12396860 Italianju said:
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him up from Baltimore??

RE: RE: Are the Mets sending a jet or helicopter to pick..  
Vanzetti : 7/31/2015 4:13 pm : link
In comment 12396880 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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him up from Baltimore??



It's the Mets. They set up an Uber ride.


He must becoming tomorrow because no way the Wilpons are paying the surge pricing on a Friday night.
last nine fulmer starts  
sshin05 : 7/31/2015 4:15 pm : link
53.1IP 39H 9BB 61K 0.68 ERA 1.69 FIP
I think Fulmer is going to be a stud  
Headhunter : 7/31/2015 4:15 pm : link
I'm sure the Giants thought Wheeler was going to be a stud when they traded for Beltran. This is a move teams that are serious make
....  
sshin05 : 7/31/2015 4:16 pm : link
Jared Diamond ‏@jareddiamond
What a spectacular trade deadline for Sandy Alderson, acquiring four major contributors without giving up a big prospect or big-leaguer.
fulmer  
sshin05 : 7/31/2015 4:17 pm : link
Marc Carig ‏@MarcCarig
Scout on Fulmer recently says development has taken a jump. Won't be long until MLB ready. Legit mid rotation guy.
RE: ....  
schabadoo : 7/31/2015 4:17 pm : link
In comment 12396929 sshin05 said:
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Jared Diamond ‏@jareddiamond
What a spectacular trade deadline for Sandy Alderson, acquiring four major contributors without giving up a big prospect or big-leaguer.


He did great. The team is much better than a week ago.

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sshin05 : 7/31/2015 4:18 pm : link
In comment 12396938 schabadoo said:
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Jared Diamond ‏@jareddiamond
What a spectacular trade deadline for Sandy Alderson, acquiring four major contributors without giving up a big prospect or big-leaguer.



He did great. The team is much better than a week ago.


Fulmer is not a big prospect yet but if he continues like this, he will be
I look at it like  
Chris684 : 7/31/2015 4:18 pm : link
at some point this organization had to give up a pitcher for a bat. If you told me we would add Cespedes and still have The big 5 plus Niese and Montero, I'd say we did pretty well.

Of course there is the caveat of locking up Cespedes but let's worry about that in November. We have a pennant race to win.
cespedes  
sshin05 : 7/31/2015 4:21 pm : link
is a fearsome bat in the lineup behind duda. He'll make everybody better just by being there.
I will put my hand to a bible  
Headhunter : 7/31/2015 4:23 pm : link
I have looked at Mazzoni or Wieck's numbers in San Diego. Once they are gone, I dont care. Fulmer could win a Cy Young or 2 but i dont care about him anymore
I haven't looked at  
Headhunter : 7/31/2015 4:23 pm : link
.
Fulmer might be a great pitcher someday  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/31/2015 4:26 pm : link
Noah Syndergaard is 22 years old and killing it

Jacob DeGrom is the second-best pitcher in the NL right now.

Matt Harvey.

If Fulmer makes an all star team in the future, who cares.
Wheeler has a great fastball  
Vanzetti : 7/31/2015 4:26 pm : link
Secondary stuff and command are not consistently there, but if he can still throw 97 with the same movement, he has the potential in time to be a 1/2 starter.

Even with the injury, I think Wheeler's chances of being a frontline starter are better than Fulmer's.
RE: I will put my hand to a bible  
Vanzetti : 7/31/2015 4:28 pm : link
In comment 12396958 Headhunter said:
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I have looked at Mazzoni or Wieck's numbers in San Diego. Once they are gone, I dont care. Fulmer could win a Cy Young or 2 but i dont care about him anymore


How about Reyes?
When all the Cubans were signed  
Headhunter : 7/31/2015 4:28 pm : link
we complained we are never in on any of the good ones. Now we have one and we are worried about next year if he's gone? Please explain?
Dont follow him  
Headhunter : 7/31/2015 4:28 pm : link
until he plays the Mets, I've seen him in the boxscores, but I dont care
RE: When all the Cubans were signed  
Deej : 7/31/2015 4:39 pm : link
In comment 12396980 Headhunter said:
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we complained we are never in on any of the good ones. Now we have one and we are worried about next year if he's gone? Please explain?


Let me ask you this: Are you self-aware that you prioritize the present Mets over the future Mets much more than many posters here? It's not a criticism -- there is no right or wrong balance there. But at times you seem unable to even grasp why people are worried about what happens next, after the season is over.
Get off the "this stings" and all that garbage  
ShocknAwe80 : 7/31/2015 4:39 pm : link
We need a bat now. We can do something this year!! Let's ride this wave. Maybe we re sign cespedes maybe we don't but let's stop being typical met fans and relish the act that we have a legit chance right now. It's time to change the mindset. We traded a AA and a A pitcher for an allstar.
Deej  
Headhunter : 7/31/2015 4:46 pm : link
No disrespect I like you as a poster a lot, but I've been playing the"future" game for the last 5-6 years, that was the thing that kept me going, but finally have a team that can truly compete night in and night out this season feels different. I'll always be looking to the future, but I can now enjoy the present. Hope that answers you
RE: Deej  
ShocknAwe80 : 7/31/2015 4:48 pm : link
In comment 12397055 Headhunter said:
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No disrespect I like you as a poster a lot, but I've been playing the"future" game for the last 5-6 years, that was the thing that kept me going, but finally have a team that can truly compete night in and night out this season feels different. I'll always be looking to the future, but I can now enjoy the present. Hope that answers you


Exactly!!! It's not doom and gloom and wait till next year anymore. Let's get into the dance and make a scene!!!
I just think getting to the 1st round is a real long shot  
Deej : 7/31/2015 4:51 pm : link
I didnt want to put a lot of eggs into the 2015 basket. One WC is spoken for, and getting to the WC is only 50% getting to the playoffs. Its mostly division or bust, and the Nats are just more talented.

Im not necessarily for or against this trade. I was more worried about giving 2, 3, 4 important pieces. But my preference was to get pieces back that had some term on them.
In a perfect world  
Headhunter : 7/31/2015 4:53 pm : link
I would also, as a consolation prize, Cepedes aint too shabby
runners on 2nd & 3rd no outs  
Headhunter : 7/31/2015 4:56 pm : link
would you rather have Kirk, Recker, Campbell coming up or Cepedes, Duda, TDA?
RE: If we cut bait with many of our free agents  
spike : 7/31/2015 5:01 pm : link
In comment 12396858 Torrag said:
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We might be able to coax Fred into opening his checkbook. Especially if Cespedes gets here and goes on a romp. That's what we have to hope for as Mets fans on both counts.


Now fire Collins so he doesn't hold the team back.


How much does Cadaver cost to sit on the DL now?
I mean I've  
Headhunter : 7/31/2015 5:02 pm : link
watched as recently as this season Eric Campbell hitting clean up. Muno Cecilini Kirk Recker Mayberry were nice guys, but would you pay to watch them hit?
RE: I mean I've  
spike : 7/31/2015 5:05 pm : link
In comment 12397114 Headhunter said:
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watched as recently as this season Eric Campbell hitting clean up. Muno Cecilini Kirk Recker Mayberry were nice guys, but would you pay to watch them hit?


Yes. For a Las Vegas 51's ticket.
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