Buster Olney & #8207;@Buster_ESPN 3m3 minutes ago
Reds willing to trade Jay Bruce to the Mets for Zack Wheeler now. Worth watching over the next 20 hours.
Trade for 2 guys who are (an improvement) but nothing more than bench players on a good team.
Trade for Clippard out of necessity because of Mejia.
Create and back out of a significant trade "for effect".
Work tirelessly to the deadline while accomplishing nothing, again to sell us all the bill of goods.
Tonight Alderson will tell you he like what they were able to do and wishes they could have done something more significant. He'll remind us all that TDA is back and that they are optimistic on DW.
So there is little need to overpay when there is no guarantee they will make it to the dance. They aren't the Astros, Dodgers, Cardinals, Yanks that are already leading and trying to hold off other teams.
But the wilpons are expecting huge crowds this weekend, if they dont upgrade the team, dont fucking go! Let them see 14k on a friday night with harvey pitching. But again, people can spend and do what they want and it is fun to go to a ball game at the nice citi field. Wilpons will never be gone ughhhh
We don't know they didn't 'see anything they didn't like'. They may be taking a risk on his health. He sure isn't running like the same guy from the past. His range in CF is diminished and his base running production has dropped off a cliff. They could be going for it now and decided it was a chance they would take.
We don't know they didn't 'see anything they didn't like'. They may be taking a risk on his health. He sure isn't running like the same guy from the past. His range in CF is diminished and his base running production has dropped off a cliff. They could be going for it now and decided it was a chance they would take.
100% Torrag.
leverage is that any team in baseball would add him for...
A kid that is a long way from the bigs but has upside and a first round reclamation pitcher showing signs of life. If it happens that is a deal we can swalllow.
one major prospect for the best bat on the market rental or not. See Zack Wheeler/Beltran trade. The benefit is we get to keep one of our proven young starters who has already done it at the major league level which is what it would have cost for a 1.2 year trade. The length goes up, the price goes up.
They can take Rosario and marry him for all I care if it means we are getting Cespedes.
Smoker/Rosario for Cespedes you have to do. But again, this is coming from a random poster who provided no source or link and we're all running with it. Odds are there's nothing to it.
at least I'm not. I'm discussing it's merits. I've learned my lesson. I'm not getting amped up until we have an official ...MLB sanctioned ...reported ...finalized ...deal. Haha.
Cespedes is on the block because he can't be QO'd. Which means he walks and they get no compensation for him. Nothing. It's a clean break. That's bad asset management.
Cespedes is on the block because he can't be QO'd. Which means he walks and they get no compensation for him. Nothing. It's a clean break. That's bad asset management.
Cespedes is on the block because he can't be QO'd. Which means he walks and they get no compensation for him. Nothing. It's a clean break. That's bad asset management.
but isn't that failing your fanbase by giving up while 3.5 out?
Cespedes is on the block because he can't be QO'd. Which means he walks and they get no compensation for him. Nothing. It's a clean break. That's bad asset management.
We dont have a long term solution yet at SS, and that's one of the toughest positions to BS your way through.
Cecchini is getting pretty close. His bat has made some serious progress this year. He's got some fielding/throwing mechanics to work on but the bat really arrived this year.
Cespedes is on the block because he can't be QO'd. Which means he walks and they get no compensation for him. Nothing. It's a clean break. That's bad asset management.
You mean how the Mets lost Reyes?
Mets did QO Reyes. Got Place kri and a Reynolds as comp.
We dont have a long term solution yet at SS, and that's one of the toughest positions to BS your way through.
Come on Deej. He is the one you can absolutely trade. We have to part with somebody. You prefer Fulmer, Nimmo, Cecchini, Smith, Conforto?? Lets be a bit realistic here.
The Mets would choose Bruce because the financial commitment to Bruce is a fraction of the deal Cespedes is going to sign. It would be a similar call as when they signed Bay instead of pursuing Holiday.
RE: If teams agree on a trade prior to the deadline
Do they still have time to do their due diligence afterwards? Things like reviewing medical records etc.; or does all of that have to be done prior to the deadline?
Their leverage is that any team in baseball would add him for second tier prospects.
Trade for Clippard out of necessity because of Mejia.
Create and back out of a significant trade "for effect".
Work tirelessly to the deadline while accomplishing nothing, again to sell us all the bill of goods.
Tonight Alderson will tell you he like what they were able to do and wishes they could have done something more significant. He'll remind us all that TDA is back and that they are optimistic on DW.
Same old.
So there is little need to overpay when there is no guarantee they will make it to the dance. They aren't the Astros, Dodgers, Cardinals, Yanks that are already leading and trying to hold off other teams.
That would be amazing. I would do a cartwheel.
Whoa that's interesting if true.
Hearing it where?
100% Torrag.
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Hearing it where?
I like rosario a lot but cecchini kinda smoothes that over
They can take Rosario and marry him for all I care if it means we are getting Cespedes.
Would figure DET would want something closer to ML ready.
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Hearing it where?
I like rosario a lot but cecchini kinda smoothes that over
And there is a bizillion SS in the organization at the lower levels coming up behind him.
Mets are 3 out of the playoffs and buyers
Tigers are 3.5 out of the playoffs and sellers?
Mets are 3 out of the playoffs and buyers
Tigers are 3.5 out of the playoffs and sellers?
Cespedes is in a walk year and looking for big money.
For this year? Cespedes. Long term? Bruce.
Cause the Tigers can't get a draft pick for him so better to get something for him then lose him potentially for nothing.
Mets are 3 out of the playoffs and buyers
Tigers are 3.5 out of the playoffs and sellers?
Tigers are 11 out in the division and have to leapfrog 4 other teams for the wild card.
Mets are 3 out in the division and 4.5 out of the wild card but has to catch 2 other teams.
I wouldn't want to give up a major prospect for either, but I hate trading for Bruce so I would rather they gamble on Cespedes at that point.
If it were lower level prospects I would be OK with Bruce but still prefer the gamble with Cespedes
The Tigers are real close to trading Yoenis Cespedes, per @BNightengale. #Mets, #Angels and #WhiteSox all linked.
You mean how the Mets lost Reyes?
but isn't that failing your fanbase by giving up while 3.5 out?
The Tigers are real close to trading Yoenis Cespedes, per @BNightengale. #Mets, #Angels and #WhiteSox all linked.
If mets, angels, and white sox colluded, then the tigers won't get their prospect. But that's probably not happening.
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Cespedes is on the block because he can't be QO'd. Which means he walks and they get no compensation for him. Nothing. It's a clean break. That's bad asset management.
You mean how the Mets lost Reyes?
Mets got comp for Reyes. I think KPlaw.
Been in touch with rival exec who recently checked on asking price for Cespedes rental: expecting elite prospect.
Cecchini is getting pretty close. His bat has made some serious progress this year. He's got some fielding/throwing mechanics to work on but the bat really arrived this year.
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Cespedes is on the block because he can't be QO'd. Which means he walks and they get no compensation for him. Nothing. It's a clean break. That's bad asset management.
You mean how the Mets lost Reyes?
Mets did QO Reyes. Got Place kri and a Reynolds as comp.
Come on Deej. He is the one you can absolutely trade. We have to part with somebody. You prefer Fulmer, Nimmo, Cecchini, Smith, Conforto?? Lets be a bit realistic here.
Anyone know the answer to this?