Any guesses on how quickly this one ends? 10-15 seconds... She said on the radio she wanted this victory to be "thorough"... And she will dedicate this one to Rowdy Roddy Piper who sadly passed away...
Not a follower of MMA but does Rousey do much else Â
The reason the last fight was so quick was because he opponent rushed her immediately, got flipped around, and suddenly Ronda had her locked up and tapped.
I'm guessing this ends in the first round, but I know nothing about the chick she's fighting.
other than arm bars? Seems to me that she just waits to set up an arm bar and then the match is over.
Dude, that's like asking if Aaron Rodgers does anything else besides throwing touchdown passes. If it works for her, why wouldn't she use it as often as possible? However, against Sara McMann, Rousey leveled her with a knee to the body that led to a TKO, and against Alexis Davis, Rousey got her in a headlock, threw her down, and kept punching her in the face until Davis was out.
Lots of bad blood in the fight. In her last two fights (April and August of 2014), Correia beat two of Rousey's friends/training partners, Jessamyn Duke (Unanimous Decision) and Shayna Baszler (TKO punches). Correia also said something about making Rousey commit suicide, or words to that affect, not realizing (so she said) that Rousey's father committed suicide when Ronda was a kid.
We get it. You don't like MMA. But there's no reason to go on every MMA thread and spew your usual bile unless you're a fucking half-troll douchebag. Is that what you are, a half-troll douchebag? If so, keep on keepin' on.
but I can't help but wonder: have you ever actually contributed anything on BBI, chris? Insight or expertise or humor or humanity, or sports knowledge?
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We get it. You don't like MMA. But there's no reason to go on every MMA thread and spew your usual bile unless you're a fucking half-troll douchebag. Is that what you are, a half-troll douchebag? If so, keep on keepin' on.
Its nothing to do with disliking MMA. Its disliking women's sports in general. Its not clear to me why there should be leagues for inferior athletes just based on their sex. If women want to be equal, shouldn't they compete on the same playing field (or octagon) as men? Most of us were inferior athletes at some point - where were our leagues where we could be paid to compete against other athletes born with similar inferior athletic gifts?
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We get it. You don't like MMA. But there's no reason to go on every MMA thread and spew your usual bile unless you're a fucking half-troll douchebag. Is that what you are, a half-troll douchebag? If so, keep on keepin' on.
Its nothing to do with disliking MMA. Its disliking women's sports in general. Its not clear to me why there should be leagues for inferior athletes just based on their sex. If women want to be equal, shouldn't they compete on the same playing field (or octagon) as men? Most of us were inferior athletes at some point - where were our leagues where we could be paid to compete against other athletes born with similar inferior athletic gifts?
lol...blaming women athletes because you could not make the freshman football team full of inferior talent, has to be one of the sillier rationals i have ever seen on here.
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We get it. You don't like MMA. But there's no reason to go on every MMA thread and spew your usual bile unless you're a fucking half-troll douchebag. Is that what you are, a half-troll douchebag? If so, keep on keepin' on.
Its nothing to do with disliking MMA. Its disliking women's sports in general. Its not clear to me why there should be leagues for inferior athletes just based on their sex. If women want to be equal, shouldn't they compete on the same playing field (or octagon) as men? Most of us were inferior athletes at some point - where were our leagues where we could be paid to compete against other athletes born with similar inferior athletic gifts?
Every time I read one of your posts I really have to wonder whether or not this is all an act because if it isn't, you are objectively one of the dumbest fucking people I have come across in my life.
Sheesh, why prove what everyone already thinks of you? Â
You ever going to respond to Bill2 or are you just gonna sit there and bleed? Chickenhawk.
Please enlighten the rest of us I could use a good chuckle
Bill2 wants the entire thing to die down, so I don't think it's right to dredge up details of it. However, let's just say that radar got called out on his trolling schtick and got destroyed and has been trying hard to avoid it.
Chris r there are times when your dedication to representing Â
Boxing thread, MMA thread, radar never fails to chime in with a snarky comment about "inferior striking" or "sweaty men rolling around on top of each other," or some such drivel. So for him to say that it's not about MMA is pure, unadulterated bullshit. Look, I don't like hockey, so I don't post on hockey threads. If I were to adopt radar's shtick, I'd go on every hockey thread just to say that hockey sucks.
As for his comments about women and sports, I kind of doubt he was being serious about it...which leads me back to him being a half-troll douchebag...maybe full-on troll douchebag would be a more accurate description.
Did this useless dingleberry really just admit that the reason he is bitter towards women athletes is because him and the rest of the nerds without an athletic bone in their body didn't get to play in there own shitfest leagues? Haha, this is classic.
I'm guessing the real bitterness stems from an unsuccessful try out for the girls freshmen soccer team. When he was a senior.
Chris r, actually Ronda is one of the only reasons why I'm intrigued with anything to do with UFC. She's all over TV and it makes me even more curious about how good of a fighter she is. So there is some lure because of her from people who don't necessarily watch this sport at all.
be interested in someone - regardless of seed, age, race, ethnicity, etc - who has been the absolute best at what they do for a living and continues to perform at the pinnacle of their sport.
That is unless you don't enjoy witnessing the success someone has achieved through absolute hard work, dedication, effort, discipline and support structure. Maybe it inspires people - from the little girl starting in athletics to the seasoned athlete who is working to reach the mountaintop.
Then again, you could just be an ignorant clownshow who has never and will never comprehend or experience anything even close to above average in any aspect of your life.
She doesn't have a physique I'm normally attracted too Â
I asked you this when you pulled this same shit on the last Serena thread. But you ignored it.
Why should we give a shit about Floyd Mayweather since he would his ass kicked by pretty much any legtimate professional heavyweight out there? He's JUST a welterweight, so who cares what he does when we know that a mediocre heavyweight would demolish him?
Floyd, Serena, and Rousey all absolutely dominate THEIR PEERS. That's what makes them special.
Women and Men are not built the same physiologically. You're smart enough to understand that.
other than arm bars? Seems to me that she just waits to set up an arm bar and then the match is over.
She finished one fight w a kick. But there are few people In world as good as she is at arm bars. You can't undo a lifetime of training. The goal is to win. U take want u can in a fight. IMO her stand up is not bad at all but if it's there in a fight u end it.
Also while people love knockouts and blood it's better to take less punishment and if u can do what she does. Take your oppenent down and win anyway u can
Seriously, chris r - you need to pay attention the next time a women's sports event is on, you're really missing out.
Eh, to each his own. Being a contrarian can be admirable if you are stating your own belief and stand behind your conviction. But if you're just being a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian and don't really give a shit about the views your espousing, then there is nothing admirable about it. Either you stand for something or you don't. Otherwise, you're just trolling.
No, there's no such thing as a good contrarian. One of my former friends was a contrarian. Everything he said were opposing ideas, but when it's every single chance or response, it can be a pain in the ass. Now what you guys are saying is he goes against the mainstream point of view, that can be a pain in the ass. I've never had a problem with him in all my years here, but if that's ALL he does, well, that can be a pain in the ass. Oddly enough, my friend's name was Chris as well. It just gets so stale and you don't want those types of people around.
the contrarian position is to be admired...but in this case you are acting like a fucking donkey.
To sum up, you believe that unless women can compete with men in sports, they shouldn't get to play?
Good grief
Right. Why should they get special leagues just because they don't have penises? Should there be an NBA league for people under 6'3" with verticals less than 32"? Do those of us born like that deserve it just like women do? What other criteria besides lacking a penis merit an opportunity to compete against similarly inferior athletes?
the contrarian position is to be admired...but in this case you are acting like a fucking donkey.
To sum up, you believe that unless women can compete with men in sports, they shouldn't get to play?
Good grief
Right. Why should they get special leagues just because they don't have penises? Should there be an NBA league for people under 6'3" with verticals less than 32"? Do those of us born like that deserve it just like women do? What other criteria besides lacking a penis merit an opportunity to compete against similarly inferior athletes?
is that a lot of us say a lot of stupid things. A lot of us can come across as moronic or down right stupid. We get into fights, we get into battles. We laugh, we cry. We sign, we dance.
But at the end of the day, Radar continues to be the most worthless poster on this board. There is not a single thing I ever read from his and said, you know what... he has a point.
If that ugly broad said that about Ronda's father than fuck her. I'm glad she was humiliated. And SHO, you can just catch the whole fight as an Instagram clip right now.
Is there seriously a contender, who can even come close to Â
If that ugly broad said that about Ronda's father than fuck her. I'm glad she was humiliated. And SHO, you can just catch the whole fight as an Instagram clip right now.
what's your thought on the Paralympics or the Special Olympics? Why should these disabled and special needs people have their own Olympic games if they can't compete with true Olympians, amirite?
I actually think she caught her with a punch to the mastoid Â
what's your thought on the Paralympics or the Special Olympics? Why should these disabled and special needs people have their own Olympic games if they can't compete with true Olympians, amirite?
Comparing women to those with physical disabilities? Women must love you on their side!
The major difference is that's a single event that is every 4 years. Fine. Lets have a woman's Olympics every four years. No objections.
Various groups have their own level of competition. Not everyone has to be measured by a single set of standards, in your case physically superior males. Whether it's females competing within their own level, special needs people within their own group, disabled people...so on and so forth.
But keep playing stupid to deflect the idiotic posts you made by intentionally playing the obtuse fool that you are.
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Osi, there are plenty of women as big as men. I have no problem with women competing with men in their same weight classes. Mayweather fights the best people on earth of his size (including unfortunately untrained women).
People complained a bit when she beat Serena for the female athlete of the year award at the ESPYs. If I had to vote, I probably would've given it to Serena. She just completed her 2nd "Serena Slam" which is just an incredible achievement, especially given her age.
But after watching Rousey destroy yet another opponent, I'm starting to second guess whether ESPN got it right or not. Serena is just unbelievable, but sometimes she looks mortal and has to turn it up a notch to blow her opponent out of the water. I've yet to seen Rousey look mortal in the octagon. In terms of dominance they're both as good as it gets, but Rousey is more consistently dominant and I think I might go with her over Serena at this point despite the Serena Slam. Both are amazing.
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Various groups have their own level of competition. Not everyone has to be measured by a single set of standards, in your case physically superior males. Whether it's females competing within their own level, special needs people within their own group, disabled people...so on and so forth.
But keep playing stupid to deflect the idiotic posts you made by intentionally playing the obtuse fool that you are.
Ronnie, the point is that there are all kinds of subcategories of people who are inferior athletes who don't get have the right to compete against similarly inferior athletes. Why is it just women then? Why not other groups of inferior athletes?
I don't think the handicapped comparison is valid. There are limited events for handicapped competitors and given the obstacles they have to overcome I think the opportunities are proportionate. But again comparing women to the handicapped seems a bit patronizing.
Osi, there are plenty of women as big as men. I have no problem with women competing with men in their same weight classes. Mayweather fights the best people on earth of his size (including unfortunately untrained women).
But Mayweather doesn't fight the best people on Earth. He fits the best people on Earth AT HIS SIZE. That's a qualifier. Just like Rousey fighting the best people on Earth the same gender as her is.
You can't just pick and choose which qualifiers you want to take a stand on. 140lb guys don't fight 200lb guys for a reason, and guys don't fight girls for a reason.
And no shit men are better athletes than women. It's called genetics and you can thank evolution for that. You're not breaking any new ground by pointing it out.
Brutal even for radar's standards. Openly sexist, too! What a look... must get laid all the time.
Arc please demonstrate how anything I've said is sexist. Its a fact: Woman can't compete at the highest levels athletically. Otherwise they would, right?
Literally, why should you give 2 fucks what radar says? Â
Tonight, Rousey's per fight average time went from 3:29 to 2:08. I know they flashed a graphic that 3:29 was the 4th shortest in UFC history. Wonder where it ranks now.
Ronnie, the point is that there are all kinds of subcategories of people who are inferior athletes who don't get have the right to compete against similarly inferior athletes. Why is it just women then? Why not other groups of inferior athletes?
I don't think the handicapped comparison is valid. There are limited events for handicapped competitors and given the obstacles they have to overcome I think the opportunities are proportionate. But again comparing women to the handicapped seems a bit patronizing.
Actually, there are many subcategories of competition with differing levels of athleticism, whether they are women competitors, amateur competitors, junior competitors, senior competitors, disabled competitors, special needs competitors, and they are all athletes deserving of their own levels of competitions. And their inability to compete at the same level as their fully-abled and in-their-prime-age male counterparts doesn't make them inferior as you keep saying. Competition at an appropriate level in these subcategories is still competition.
And as far as the disabled and special needs competitors go, they compete in numerous similar events as their fully-abled counterparts. They're athletes just like their fully-abled counterparts. And like their fully-abled counterparts, they have and deserve their own level of competition.
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the contrarian position is to be admired...but in this case you are acting like a fucking donkey.
To sum up, you believe that unless women can compete with men in sports, they shouldn't get to play?
Good grief
Right. Why should they get special leagues just because they don't have penises? Should there be an NBA league for people under 6'3" with verticals less than 32"? Do those of us born like that deserve it just like women do? What other criteria besides lacking a penis merit an opportunity to compete against similarly inferior athletes?
Addressing the complete idiocy of your point:
So then why should there be weight classes for boxing? It's not a heavyweights fault that a bantam weight is inferior in size and strength. Why should there be weight classes? Just have one champion of boxing.
the contrarian position is to be admired...but in this case you are acting like a fucking donkey.
To sum up, you believe that unless women can compete with men in sports, they shouldn't get to play?
Good grief
Right. Why should they get special leagues just because they don't have penises? Should there be an NBA league for people under 6'3" with verticals less than 32"? Do those of us born like that deserve it just like women do? What other criteria besides lacking a penis merit an opportunity to compete against similarly inferior athletes?
Addressing the complete idiocy of your point:
So then why should there be weight classes for boxing? It's not a heavyweights fault that a bantam weight is inferior in size and strength. Why should there be weight classes? Just have one champion of boxing.
Moreover, why root for any college basketball or football teams, when they'd be crushed in the pro leagues.
Brutal even for radar's standards. Openly sexist, too! What a look... must get laid all the time.
Arc please demonstrate how anything I've said is sexist. Its a fact: Woman can't compete at the highest levels athletically. Otherwise they would, right?
Apparently you've got quite a bit to learn about genetics and the reasons why they are "inferior" athletically.
Your assertion that women's sports shouldn't exist because you "don't like" them and find them inferior is yes, sexist.
for UFC as far as PPV buys? I didn't purchase the fight last night because there was nothing else of interest on the card, and as much as I wanted to see the Rousey fight, I couldn't justify forking over the money for what I figured would be less than 60 seconds of fight time.
Going forward is she going to be able to carry a PPV card on her own, or do you think if her fights continue to be this one sided are they going to have to start attaching her to more exciting cards?
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for UFC as far as PPV buys? I didn't purchase the fight last night because there was nothing else of interest on the card, and as much as I wanted to see the Rousey fight, I couldn't justify forking over the money for what I figured would be less than 60 seconds of fight time.
Going forward is she going to be able to carry a PPV card on her own, or do you think if her fights continue to be this one sided are they going to have to start attaching her to more exciting cards?
Reminds me of Tyson back in his prime.
RE: At what point does Rousey's domination actually start to be a negative Â
for UFC as far as PPV buys? I didn't purchase the fight last night because there was nothing else of interest on the card, and as much as I wanted to see the Rousey fight, I couldn't justify forking over the money for what I figured would be less than 60 seconds of fight time.
Going forward is she going to be able to carry a PPV card on her own, or do you think if her fights continue to be this one sided are they going to have to start attaching her to more exciting cards?
I don't know. I went to a sports bar last night to watch the whole card. No cover charge. I have no idea what places like these have to pay to screen PPVs. But depending on what that price is, it's possible the UFC is still cash in, and will continue to do so, even as Rousey cleans out her division with fights that end in less than a minute.
She's just so much better than her competition. Forget about her superior technique and skill, but her strength stands out so much. She's just built like a rock. I wish there was a challenger to her. The only Rousey fight I'd genuinely be interested in moving forward is the Cyborg fight. I really hope a challenger emerges in the women's division.
Thanks for the link. First time I've seen her fight. Â
that in all of the years of radar's off-kilter weirdness, this goes farther than any other.
OK, radar, let's think this through a little. You have a 6-year-old daughter (unlikely, but go with me here).
She decides she wants to become the best athlete she can possibly be in a given sport--let's say, basketball. She busts her ass, day after day, and by golly , she succeeds. Does the fact that genetically and physiologically she can never expect to be equal to those of the male gender--hormones, musculature, bone structure, etc.--mean that for the rest of her life she needn't bother?
--That she should never fight to become a champion competing against others with her same physical attributes?
--That if she becomes the best in the world, fans of her sport should still never admire her as much as they do the ten thousandth best male basketball player, who will still be better than her?
--That sports fans all over the world who enjoy seeing her compete successfully against other athletes with the same genetic makeup are all stupid and delusional?
--That the 99.9% of sports fans who think that there should be a split for the genders, based upon their vastly different genetic makeups, are not at your level of intellect and brilliance?
You may be right, but please explain. The logic just doesn't seem to work. The more likely answer is that on some unconscious (or conscious) level, you possess a world class degree of intellectual masochism, and a crying need to get your brain kicked in every so often.
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The operative word being "might." But if Rousey takes her down it's all over.
Is anyone even the littlest bit psyched to see Rousey-Tate 3? I don't think even the new and improved Tate has a chance.
Wish Cyborg would just back off the Test and HGH and drop to 135. That's the only fight for her at this point that can be competitive. TSte is tough but bein tough isn't going to be enough. She's not better than Rhonda anywhere still.
Very likely. But the thing is, I don't know how they match up on paper. I think Rousey would be favored just by virtue of the fact that she's the champ in the more prestigious organization. Cyborg having to come down from 145, off drugs, could be hard on her.
Yeah. Cyborg is a brawler. She's huge for a woman. She's only my been busted once for juicing but he advantage is her aggression and her strength. She's a legit Jiu Jitsu black belt but at 135 I think her strength is a it negated. Also there isn't a better woman in MMA at taking people down if it gets tight. Cyborg is the most likely to be able to beat Rhonda bit I don't think she can. No way she's favored IMO
This thread has some of the dumbest shit I have ever seen posted Â
Referring to this dipshit as a "contrarian" gives him way too much credit.
Hope to see Serena finish that grand slam this year too. I'm not even a tennis fan or a UFC fan (I guess I'm the last wave of the boxing dinosaurs) but I don't know how anyone can't appreciate that level of athletic greatness on display. Gotta be someone who never competed in anything ever
In terms of who are you more impressed by? I would still lean toward Serena for 2 reasons....
1) longevity and
2) the fact that I'm certain she faces superior competition just by the shear math of it. So many more young women grow up pursuing tennis as a potential career compared to the UFC.
Either way, two great athletes who tower above their competition to a degree that you cannot help but be impressed by
when you include longevity, there's no doubt Serena is still the alpha-female in sports.
But it feels like Serena only turns on "God-mode" when she feels like it. Rousey lives in God-mode. I've never seen Rousey in anything other than God-mode.
And I have to agree with Greg. I think your second point is far more relevant and is spot on.
Maybe it has to do with MMA (UFC) still being seen as man's sport by the public. Or it may be due to women still being raised to not be aggressive and fight. Or maybe it's because UFC is still a relatively a new sporting event as compared to tennis or even other forms of combative sports. However, like boxing and martial arts competitions, I think as time goes on, UFC (and MMA in general) will become more open and enticing to female fighters.
I know very little about the sport but it seems as if Ronda is the whole package and nobody will beat her. Quick, strong, and lighting fast punches and that filthy arm bars of hers. It just seems like it's going to be a bottomless pit of next challengers (tomato cans) for her. All these strategies and psyche out tactics are pointless if your opponent is a monster.
Ronda is only going to get better. She still hasn't shown us what she Â
Can do when challenged and I think she's got way more in the gas tank than we can imagine. She keeps picking up new skills and excelling fast.
I guarantee you this...she is inspiring more young girls to gravitate towards mma and the sport will only grow. She's absolutely amazing and so fucking dominant. She probably won't face real competition until some young blood challenges her in five years, unless Hollywood keeps her.
Serena is dominant a majority of the time and sometimes can sleepwalk through a match. Ronda has never let her foot off the gas ever. Nobody who ever stepped into the ring could actually believe they have a chance. Bethe did not look happy at all once they were in the octagon with her phony stare down. Don't cry.
Regarding rousey having her competitive switch in permanent "on" position relative to Serena having her moments where she doesn't quite look like herself...... It's really tough to compare when Rousey literally only has to perform 2-3 times a year, with months of training culminating in that one night.
I love them both though. I have an 8 year old niece that is like a daughter to me, and she finds the whole Rousey phenomenon to be really cool. I'm sure she has a lot of company. She's not going to be inspired to become an MMA fighter or anything, but I think a lot of young girls can draw inspiration from Rousey on some level.
that in all of the years of radar's off-kilter weirdness, this goes farther than any other.
OK, radar, let's think this through a little. You have a 6-year-old daughter (unlikely, but go with me here).
She decides she wants to become the best athlete she can possibly be in a given sport--let's say, basketball. She busts her ass, day after day, and by golly , she succeeds. Does the fact that genetically and physiologically she can never expect to be equal to those of the male gender--hormones, musculature, bone structure, etc.--mean that for the rest of her life she needn't bother?
--That she should never fight to become a champion competing against others with her same physical attributes?
--That if she becomes the best in the world, fans of her sport should still never admire her as much as they do the ten thousandth best male basketball player, who will still be better than her?
--That sports fans all over the world who enjoy seeing her compete successfully against other athletes with the same genetic makeup are all stupid and delusional?
--That the 99.9% of sports fans who think that there should be a split for the genders, based upon their vastly different genetic makeups, are not at your level of intellect and brilliance?
The answer to all of that is probably yes. Furthermore, he could give birth to the next generation's Bob Dylan, and he'd disown the kid for not exhibiting the dexterity and skill of Sabicas. "Oh, you're just strumming chords and playing I-IV-V progressions? How plebian."
I'm guessing this ends in the first round, but I know nothing about the chick she's fighting.
Go away.
Radar, I don't know if you saw it, but Bill2 asked you a question on another thread - wanted to make sure you had a chance to respond.
You ever going to respond to Bill2 or are you just gonna sit there and bleed? Chickenhawk.
Dude, that's like asking if Aaron Rodgers does anything else besides throwing touchdown passes. If it works for her, why wouldn't she use it as often as possible? However, against Sara McMann, Rousey leveled her with a knee to the body that led to a TKO, and against Alexis Davis, Rousey got her in a headlock, threw her down, and kept punching her in the face until Davis was out.
Lots of bad blood in the fight. In her last two fights (April and August of 2014), Correia beat two of Rousey's friends/training partners, Jessamyn Duke (Unanimous Decision) and Shayna Baszler (TKO punches). Correia also said something about making Rousey commit suicide, or words to that affect, not realizing (so she said) that Rousey's father committed suicide when Ronda was a kid.
We get it. You don't like MMA. But there's no reason to go on every MMA thread and spew your usual bile unless you're a fucking half-troll douchebag. Is that what you are, a half-troll douchebag? If so, keep on keepin' on.
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We get it. You don't like MMA. But there's no reason to go on every MMA thread and spew your usual bile unless you're a fucking half-troll douchebag. Is that what you are, a half-troll douchebag? If so, keep on keepin' on.
Its nothing to do with disliking MMA. Its disliking women's sports in general. Its not clear to me why there should be leagues for inferior athletes just based on their sex. If women want to be equal, shouldn't they compete on the same playing field (or octagon) as men? Most of us were inferior athletes at some point - where were our leagues where we could be paid to compete against other athletes born with similar inferior athletic gifts?
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We get it. You don't like MMA. But there's no reason to go on every MMA thread and spew your usual bile unless you're a fucking half-troll douchebag. Is that what you are, a half-troll douchebag? If so, keep on keepin' on.
Its nothing to do with disliking MMA. Its disliking women's sports in general. Its not clear to me why there should be leagues for inferior athletes just based on their sex. If women want to be equal, shouldn't they compete on the same playing field (or octagon) as men? Most of us were inferior athletes at some point - where were our leagues where we could be paid to compete against other athletes born with similar inferior athletic gifts?
lol...blaming women athletes because you could not make the freshman football team full of inferior talent, has to be one of the sillier rationals i have ever seen on here.
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We get it. You don't like MMA. But there's no reason to go on every MMA thread and spew your usual bile unless you're a fucking half-troll douchebag. Is that what you are, a half-troll douchebag? If so, keep on keepin' on.
Its nothing to do with disliking MMA. Its disliking women's sports in general. Its not clear to me why there should be leagues for inferior athletes just based on their sex. If women want to be equal, shouldn't they compete on the same playing field (or octagon) as men? Most of us were inferior athletes at some point - where were our leagues where we could be paid to compete against other athletes born with similar inferior athletic gifts?
Every time I read one of your posts I really have to wonder whether or not this is all an act because if it isn't, you are objectively one of the dumbest fucking people I have come across in my life.
You ever going to respond to Bill2 or are you just gonna sit there and bleed? Chickenhawk.
Please enlighten the rest of us I could use a good chuckle
As far as radar goes...haha...too easy.
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You ever going to respond to Bill2 or are you just gonna sit there and bleed? Chickenhawk.
Please enlighten the rest of us I could use a good chuckle
Bill2 wants the entire thing to die down, so I don't think it's right to dredge up details of it. However, let's just say that radar got called out on his trolling schtick and got destroyed and has been trying hard to avoid it.
To sum up, you believe that unless women can compete with men in sports, they shouldn't get to play?
Good grief
Um, when?
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Um, when?
Agree. Being a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian is never admirable.
As for his comments about women and sports, I kind of doubt he was being serious about it...which leads me back to him being a half-troll douchebag...maybe full-on troll douchebag would be a more accurate description.
I'm guessing the real bitterness stems from an unsuccessful try out for the girls freshmen soccer team. When he was a senior.
That is unless you don't enjoy witnessing the success someone has achieved through absolute hard work, dedication, effort, discipline and support structure. Maybe it inspires people - from the little girl starting in athletics to the seasoned athlete who is working to reach the mountaintop.
Then again, you could just be an ignorant clownshow who has never and will never comprehend or experience anything even close to above average in any aspect of your life.
Seriously, chris r - you need to pay attention the next time a women's sports event is on, you're really missing out.
I asked you this when you pulled this same shit on the last Serena thread. But you ignored it.
Why should we give a shit about Floyd Mayweather since he would his ass kicked by pretty much any legtimate professional heavyweight out there? He's JUST a welterweight, so who cares what he does when we know that a mediocre heavyweight would demolish him?
Floyd, Serena, and Rousey all absolutely dominate THEIR PEERS. That's what makes them special.
Women and Men are not built the same physiologically. You're smart enough to understand that.
She finished one fight w a kick. But there are few people In world as good as she is at arm bars. You can't undo a lifetime of training. The goal is to win. U take want u can in a fight. IMO her stand up is not bad at all but if it's there in a fight u end it.
Also while people love knockouts and blood it's better to take less punishment and if u can do what she does. Take your oppenent down and win anyway u can
Seriously, chris r - you need to pay attention the next time a women's sports event is on, you're really missing out.
Eh, to each his own. Being a contrarian can be admirable if you are stating your own belief and stand behind your conviction. But if you're just being a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian and don't really give a shit about the views your espousing, then there is nothing admirable about it. Either you stand for something or you don't. Otherwise, you're just trolling.
To sum up, you believe that unless women can compete with men in sports, they shouldn't get to play?
Good grief
Right. Why should they get special leagues just because they don't have penises? Should there be an NBA league for people under 6'3" with verticals less than 32"? Do those of us born like that deserve it just like women do? What other criteria besides lacking a penis merit an opportunity to compete against similarly inferior athletes?
LOL WTF
Well, the NFL made the Jets so people without brains had a team to cheer for. Same applies to some fans of the Mets. ;)(
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the contrarian position is to be admired...but in this case you are acting like a fucking donkey.
To sum up, you believe that unless women can compete with men in sports, they shouldn't get to play?
Good grief
Right. Why should they get special leagues just because they don't have penises? Should there be an NBA league for people under 6'3" with verticals less than 32"? Do those of us born like that deserve it just like women do? What other criteria besides lacking a penis merit an opportunity to compete against similarly inferior athletes?
Still won't respond to Osi's question, hilarious.
But at the end of the day, Radar continues to be the most worthless poster on this board. There is not a single thing I ever read from his and said, you know what... he has a point.
UFC is out of hand
Insane.
Crazy
Might even be a good Vine clip...haha
Comparing women to those with physical disabilities? Women must love you on their side!
The major difference is that's a single event that is every 4 years. Fine. Lets have a woman's Olympics every four years. No objections.
But keep playing stupid to deflect the idiotic posts you made by intentionally playing the obtuse fool that you are.
Osi, there are plenty of women as big as men. I have no problem with women competing with men in their same weight classes. Mayweather fights the best people on earth of his size (including unfortunately untrained women).
But after watching Rousey destroy yet another opponent, I'm starting to second guess whether ESPN got it right or not. Serena is just unbelievable, but sometimes she looks mortal and has to turn it up a notch to blow her opponent out of the water. I've yet to seen Rousey look mortal in the octagon. In terms of dominance they're both as good as it gets, but Rousey is more consistently dominant and I think I might go with her over Serena at this point despite the Serena Slam. Both are amazing.
But keep playing stupid to deflect the idiotic posts you made by intentionally playing the obtuse fool that you are.
Ronnie, the point is that there are all kinds of subcategories of people who are inferior athletes who don't get have the right to compete against similarly inferior athletes. Why is it just women then? Why not other groups of inferior athletes?
I don't think the handicapped comparison is valid. There are limited events for handicapped competitors and given the obstacles they have to overcome I think the opportunities are proportionate. But again comparing women to the handicapped seems a bit patronizing.
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Weight Classes? Mayweather? Please respond thanks.
Osi, there are plenty of women as big as men. I have no problem with women competing with men in their same weight classes. Mayweather fights the best people on earth of his size (including unfortunately untrained women).
But Mayweather doesn't fight the best people on Earth. He fits the best people on Earth AT HIS SIZE. That's a qualifier. Just like Rousey fighting the best people on Earth the same gender as her is.
You can't just pick and choose which qualifiers you want to take a stand on. 140lb guys don't fight 200lb guys for a reason, and guys don't fight girls for a reason.
And no shit men are better athletes than women. It's called genetics and you can thank evolution for that. You're not breaking any new ground by pointing it out.
Arc please demonstrate how anything I've said is sexist. Its a fact: Woman can't compete at the highest levels athletically. Otherwise they would, right?
Kicker try mounting an argument if you can.
Only annoyance was too many prelim fights.
She has got to be, pound for pound, so much better than pretty much anyone else.
I don't think the handicapped comparison is valid. There are limited events for handicapped competitors and given the obstacles they have to overcome I think the opportunities are proportionate. But again comparing women to the handicapped seems a bit patronizing.
Actually, there are many subcategories of competition with differing levels of athleticism, whether they are women competitors, amateur competitors, junior competitors, senior competitors, disabled competitors, special needs competitors, and they are all athletes deserving of their own levels of competitions. And their inability to compete at the same level as their fully-abled and in-their-prime-age male counterparts doesn't make them inferior as you keep saying. Competition at an appropriate level in these subcategories is still competition.
And as far as the disabled and special needs competitors go, they compete in numerous similar events as their fully-abled counterparts. They're athletes just like their fully-abled counterparts. And like their fully-abled counterparts, they have and deserve their own level of competition.
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Fuck him, don't read his shit, and improve your life. He will slink away to the hellhole that is his life soon enough.
Kicker try mounting an argument if you can.
Hey Pot! Do you want to meet Kettle?
And Kicker has provided more valid arguments in one discussion than you have during your entirety on BBI. By the way...why are you avoiding Bill2?
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Fuck him, don't read his shit, and improve your life. He will slink away to the hellhole that is his life soon enough.
Kicker try mounting an argument if you can.
Answer Bill2.
Fight link - ( New Window )
Seeing this makes me regret everything I posted on the other thread. You are just awful.
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the contrarian position is to be admired...but in this case you are acting like a fucking donkey.
To sum up, you believe that unless women can compete with men in sports, they shouldn't get to play?
Good grief
Right. Why should they get special leagues just because they don't have penises? Should there be an NBA league for people under 6'3" with verticals less than 32"? Do those of us born like that deserve it just like women do? What other criteria besides lacking a penis merit an opportunity to compete against similarly inferior athletes?
Addressing the complete idiocy of your point:
So then why should there be weight classes for boxing? It's not a heavyweights fault that a bantam weight is inferior in size and strength. Why should there be weight classes? Just have one champion of boxing.
Thread is below. Someone asked and I posted it there.
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the contrarian position is to be admired...but in this case you are acting like a fucking donkey.
To sum up, you believe that unless women can compete with men in sports, they shouldn't get to play?
Good grief
Right. Why should they get special leagues just because they don't have penises? Should there be an NBA league for people under 6'3" with verticals less than 32"? Do those of us born like that deserve it just like women do? What other criteria besides lacking a penis merit an opportunity to compete against similarly inferior athletes?
Addressing the complete idiocy of your point:
So then why should there be weight classes for boxing? It's not a heavyweights fault that a bantam weight is inferior in size and strength. Why should there be weight classes? Just have one champion of boxing.
Moreover, why root for any college basketball or football teams, when they'd be crushed in the pro leagues.
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Brutal even for radar's standards. Openly sexist, too! What a look... must get laid all the time.
Arc please demonstrate how anything I've said is sexist. Its a fact: Woman can't compete at the highest levels athletically. Otherwise they would, right?
Apparently you've got quite a bit to learn about genetics and the reasons why they are "inferior" athletically.
Your assertion that women's sports shouldn't exist because you "don't like" them and find them inferior is yes, sexist.
I can't believe I am even responding to this.
Going forward is she going to be able to carry a PPV card on her own, or do you think if her fights continue to be this one sided are they going to have to start attaching her to more exciting cards?
Going forward is she going to be able to carry a PPV card on her own, or do you think if her fights continue to be this one sided are they going to have to start attaching her to more exciting cards?
Reminds me of Tyson back in his prime.
Going forward is she going to be able to carry a PPV card on her own, or do you think if her fights continue to be this one sided are they going to have to start attaching her to more exciting cards?
I don't know. I went to a sports bar last night to watch the whole card. No cover charge. I have no idea what places like these have to pay to screen PPVs. But depending on what that price is, it's possible the UFC is still cash in, and will continue to do so, even as Rousey cleans out her division with fights that end in less than a minute.
She's just so much better than her competition. Forget about her superior technique and skill, but her strength stands out so much. She's just built like a rock. I wish there was a challenger to her. The only Rousey fight I'd genuinely be interested in moving forward is the Cyborg fight. I really hope a challenger emerges in the women's division.
Only started by the best
Is anyone even the littlest bit psyched to see Rousey-Tate 3? I don't think even the new and improved Tate has a chance.
Don't know much about Woman's UFC but the fight she ends up losing will be a great one
OK, radar, let's think this through a little. You have a 6-year-old daughter (unlikely, but go with me here).
She decides she wants to become the best athlete she can possibly be in a given sport--let's say, basketball. She busts her ass, day after day, and by golly , she succeeds. Does the fact that genetically and physiologically she can never expect to be equal to those of the male gender--hormones, musculature, bone structure, etc.--mean that for the rest of her life she needn't bother?
--That she should never fight to become a champion competing against others with her same physical attributes?
--That if she becomes the best in the world, fans of her sport should still never admire her as much as they do the ten thousandth best male basketball player, who will still be better than her?
--That sports fans all over the world who enjoy seeing her compete successfully against other athletes with the same genetic makeup are all stupid and delusional?
--That the 99.9% of sports fans who think that there should be a split for the genders, based upon their vastly different genetic makeups, are not at your level of intellect and brilliance?
You may be right, but please explain. The logic just doesn't seem to work. The more likely answer is that on some unconscious (or conscious) level, you possess a world class degree of intellectual masochism, and a crying need to get your brain kicked in every so often.
Is anyone even the littlest bit psyched to see Rousey-Tate 3? I don't think even the new and improved Tate has a chance.
Wish Cyborg would just back off the Test and HGH and drop to 135. That's the only fight for her at this point that can be competitive. TSte is tough but bein tough isn't going to be enough. She's not better than Rhonda anywhere still.
Very likely. But the thing is, I don't know how they match up on paper. I think Rousey would be favored just by virtue of the fact that she's the champ in the more prestigious organization. Cyborg having to come down from 145, off drugs, could be hard on her.
Yeah. Cyborg is a brawler. She's huge for a woman. She's only my been busted once for juicing but he advantage is her aggression and her strength. She's a legit Jiu Jitsu black belt but at 135 I think her strength is a it negated. Also there isn't a better woman in MMA at taking people down if it gets tight. Cyborg is the most likely to be able to beat Rhonda bit I don't think she can. No way she's favored IMO
The way Ronnie just patronized women like that...
The way Ronnie just patronized women like that...
I've been through Cam's course on women's and gender studies course.
Hope to see Serena finish that grand slam this year too. I'm not even a tennis fan or a UFC fan (I guess I'm the last wave of the boxing dinosaurs) but I don't know how anyone can't appreciate that level of athletic greatness on display. Gotta be someone who never competed in anything ever
1) longevity and
2) the fact that I'm certain she faces superior competition just by the shear math of it. So many more young women grow up pursuing tennis as a potential career compared to the UFC.
Either way, two great athletes who tower above their competition to a degree that you cannot help but be impressed by
But it feels like Serena only turns on "God-mode" when she feels like it. Rousey lives in God-mode. I've never seen Rousey in anything other than God-mode.
Maybe it has to do with MMA (UFC) still being seen as man's sport by the public. Or it may be due to women still being raised to not be aggressive and fight. Or maybe it's because UFC is still a relatively a new sporting event as compared to tennis or even other forms of combative sports. However, like boxing and martial arts competitions, I think as time goes on, UFC (and MMA in general) will become more open and enticing to female fighters.
I guarantee you this...she is inspiring more young girls to gravitate towards mma and the sport will only grow. She's absolutely amazing and so fucking dominant. She probably won't face real competition until some young blood challenges her in five years, unless Hollywood keeps her.
Serena is dominant a majority of the time and sometimes can sleepwalk through a match. Ronda has never let her foot off the gas ever. Nobody who ever stepped into the ring could actually believe they have a chance. Bethe did not look happy at all once they were in the octagon with her phony stare down. Don't cry.
I love them both though. I have an 8 year old niece that is like a daughter to me, and she finds the whole Rousey phenomenon to be really cool. I'm sure she has a lot of company. She's not going to be inspired to become an MMA fighter or anything, but I think a lot of young girls can draw inspiration from Rousey on some level.
OK, radar, let's think this through a little. You have a 6-year-old daughter (unlikely, but go with me here).
She decides she wants to become the best athlete she can possibly be in a given sport--let's say, basketball. She busts her ass, day after day, and by golly , she succeeds. Does the fact that genetically and physiologically she can never expect to be equal to those of the male gender--hormones, musculature, bone structure, etc.--mean that for the rest of her life she needn't bother?
--That she should never fight to become a champion competing against others with her same physical attributes?
--That if she becomes the best in the world, fans of her sport should still never admire her as much as they do the ten thousandth best male basketball player, who will still be better than her?
--That sports fans all over the world who enjoy seeing her compete successfully against other athletes with the same genetic makeup are all stupid and delusional?
--That the 99.9% of sports fans who think that there should be a split for the genders, based upon their vastly different genetic makeups, are not at your level of intellect and brilliance?
The answer to all of that is probably yes. Furthermore, he could give birth to the next generation's Bob Dylan, and he'd disown the kid for not exhibiting the dexterity and skill of Sabicas. "Oh, you're just strumming chords and playing I-IV-V progressions? How plebian."