NFT: Maureen Dowd: Beau Biden urged Joe to run in '16

balloon. Which will end up in the same place as Mitt Romney's a few months back. Most of the big donors are lined up behind HRC and those that aren't probably not going to put their money behind a 72 year old whose 2 previous runs for the nomination were complete trainwrecks.
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but I think he's one of those people who just doesn't have the personal/political skills to be a successful candidate at that level.

But his window of opportunity has passed with a swing and a miss.

perhaps a Biden run is in the works. Doubt Hillary's people want this complication but some real competition might be the spark she needs.

trustworthy #'s in free fall, the left needs someone to step up.

I'm with Ira and Milton on Biden.

it became apparent Hillary was in real trouble?

Outside of NYC, New Yorkers despise despise him. Including the public unions. That would make for pork press.

But the typo fits too

In comment 12398485 Bill L said:

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But the typo fits too

LOL

Speaking as a New Yorker and a Democrat... I would have a hard time voting for Cuomo. The guy is an insufferable douche.

nobody likes him and he's got some serious things that could come out.

I would not underestimate Biden. He's crafty.

he should have announced a while ago. He would be really far behind in terms of fund raising at this point. I'm not sure it's feasible at this point, especially since he and Hillary don't really diverge all that much in regards to their positions.

But something else that I could actually see him considering is a third term as VP. Makes sense for Hillary who has an growing issue with being perceived as not trustworthy. Biden, who remains very well-liked among democrats and well-respected across both parties in Congress, would go a long ways towards adding some credibility back into Hillary's campaign.

to HRC. I love Joe. And all of her problems-likability, trustworthiness-are pluses for Joe. A lot of people don't like Biden's politics, but few dislike the man or question his sincerity.

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he should have announced a while ago. He would be really far behind in terms of fund raising at this point. I'm not sure it's feasible at this point, especially since he and Hillary don't really diverge all that much in regards to their positions. But something else that I could actually see him considering is a third term as VP. Makes sense for Hillary who has an growing issue with being perceived as not trustworthy. Biden, who remains very well-liked among democrats and well-respected across both parties in Congress, would go a long ways towards adding some credibility back into Hillary's campaign.

Honestly, I don't think it's uncommon for a running mate to be picked to fill a knowledge gap or an experience gap I'm something like foreign policy. Or they could complement each other geographically. I just don't think a VP can fill a character gap and have the public buy into it.

In comment 12398801 SanFranNowNCGiantsFan said:

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to HRC. I love Joe. And all of her problems-likability, trustworthiness-are pluses for Joe. A lot of people don't like Biden's politics, but few dislike the man or question his sincerity.

I don't mind your last sentence. I dislike his politics, as would be expected, but I don't question his sincerity. I wouldn't go so far as to say I like him or would like him personally. But, I can accept someone who is different politically if he has some honor.

Kerry would be the strongest Democratic candidate.

But he's been pretty adamant that he has no intention of running.

In comment 12398802 Bill L said:

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In comment 12398797 eclipz928 said: Quote: he should have announced a while ago. He would be really far behind in terms of fund raising at this point. I'm not sure it's feasible at this point, especially since he and Hillary don't really diverge all that much in regards to their positions. But something else that I could actually see him considering is a third term as VP. Makes sense for Hillary who has an growing issue with being perceived as not trustworthy. Biden, who remains very well-liked among democrats and well-respected across both parties in Congress, would go a long ways towards adding some credibility back into Hillary's campaign. Honestly, I don't think it's uncommon for a running mate to be picked to fill a knowledge gap or an experience gap I'm something like foreign policy. Or they could complement each other geographically. I just don't think a VP can fill a character gap and have the public buy into it.

Well typically with most presidential candidates there is a knowledge gap (mostly foreign policy) that needs to be filled. But as a former Secretary of State, Hillary doesn't really have that weakness. But the personality gap is pretty substantial in this instance, and may be more of a hindrance to her in this particular election cycle as opposed to something like winning the latino vote or polling well in Pennsylvania. It's not all that unprecedented - John McCain had a similar issue in 2008 and chose a VP specifically for filling the personality/youth gap. And I think it would've had much better results if she was someone who was actually competent.

He has how own baggage and how does he keep his campaign from being categorized as a 3rd Obama term?

democrat I can't see cuomo winning another public election. I don't know anyone who likes him including myself. It seems to me his interests are about using his office to do large realestate developers bidding.

He had presidential aspirations - I think that explained him pushing thru the safe act.

the last race could have been closer, but Astorino ran a poor race.

Cuomo's ripe for the pickin - but it all depends on the right person running against him.