Mets fans are on an emotional rollercoaster this season too. Everyone was freaking out after the Padres loss. Then they win a few against the Nationals and they're talking about the World Series.
Mets fans are on an emotional rollercoaster this season too. Everyone was freaking out after the Padres loss. Then they win a few against the Nationals and they're talking about the World Series.
I've always been a Mets fan but the bipolar fan base has always reminded me of the Jets fans. Despair/anger to World Series/Dynasty within a week
twice in a 7 game series, it's going to be awfully tough. The Mets need to get IN the playoffs, but once there, they have the pitching, and now the lineup that could be bolstered by then even more by a healthy and productive Cuddyer and Wright, to make it to the World Series.
The Yankees I don't think have the team to do it. They have won a lot of games, but I don't think they have enough starting pitching to get there.
I like the Royals, Blue Jays, and Astros in the American League... I think they will rise to the top and it should be a great American League playoffs (a lot of young and established stars).
A lot of it is who's hot who's healthy at the right time.
twice in a 7 game series, it's going to be awfully tough. The Mets need to get IN the playoffs, but once there, they have the pitching, and now the lineup that could be bolstered by then even more by a healthy and productive Cuddyer and Wright, to make it to the World Series.
The Yankees I don't think have the team to do it. They have won a lot of games, but I don't think they have enough starting pitching to get there.
I like the Royals, Blue Jays, and Astros in the American League... I think they will rise to the top and it should be a great American League playoffs (a lot of young and established stars).
twice in a 7 game series, it's going to be awfully tough. The Mets need to get IN the playoffs, but once there, they have the pitching, and now the lineup that could be bolstered by then even more by a healthy and productive Cuddyer and Wright, to make it to the World Series.
The Yankees I don't think have the team to do it. They have won a lot of games, but I don't think they have enough starting pitching to get there.
I like the Royals, Blue Jays, and Astros in the American League... I think they will rise to the top and it should be a great American League playoffs (a lot of young and established stars).
Royals? does that team scare "you." But a legitimate team though.
Blue Jays? have to get past the Yankees - difficult task but not impossible.
Astros - Angels will eventually pass the Astros.
Cardinals and Pirates in NL.
Yankees starting pitchers Tanaka, Pineda, Eovaldi and big if - Nova. He will improve his control every start. The BP is arguably as good or better than KC. Don't dismiss the Yankees
you'll see fans who are still very nervous about making the playoffs. Pittsburgh has a WC essentially in the bag. The Cubs are 2 games up on us for the other. Best path may be thru Washington, which has IMO the most talented lineup + rotation in MLB and a schedule that is almost as easy as ours.
spoken to one fan of the Mets who thinks the team is making or winning the World Series. We are hoping for the playoffs, and very nervous about getting there. Most I have heard is "If we make the playoffs, the team could be dangerous." But there is a very good chance the team won't make the playoffs. Washington is good.
I see Giants fans doing the same thing after wins and losses. The World is ending or this team is going all the way. All fanbases do this, including the Yankees in the midst of an actual race.
This feeling of superiority some New York fans have is really misguided. There are plenty of awful Giants fans, just like there are plenty of awful Mets fans and plenty of awful Yankees fans.
Although the mere presence of this thread, along with comments about how the Yankees have no chance despite a record that's four games better in a tough division, undermine your case.
Well Ralph has always been a fairly blind optimist for as long
Although the mere presence of this thread, along with comments about how the Yankees have no chance despite a record that's four games better in a tough division, undermine your case.
Saying a subway series is "not an absurd notion" is predicting a World Series? I'm not sure I agree with that.
Of course there are some who think they are winning the world series, just like some Giants fans are predicting a Super Bowl. I saw a Yankees fan posting about how the yankees are going to win the World Series on Jim Bruer's facebook last night.
I just can't agree with the notion that this is common thought among Mets fans, as many have insinuated.
here are the current odds of each team making the postseason per BaseballProspectus* (division/WC)
Yankees: 93.3% (76.2/17.2)
Mets: 59.7% (54.5/5.2)
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Postseason probabilities are courtesy of Baseball Prospectus and indicate each team's probability of winning the division or wild card, or any postseason berth. Probabilities are based on thousands of Monte Carlo simulations of the remaining season schedule incorporating each team's year-to-date run differential, current roster composition, playing time projections and remaining schedule.
I'm just glad we are witnessing meaningful August baseball.
I'd love to finish over .500 for the first time in 7 years, then make the playoffs.
If the Mets do make the playoffs and a fortunate enough to advance to the WS I honestly don't care even a little who the Mets opponent is, Yankees, Red Sox, Royals, don't care.
as for the chances of a Subway Series, sure there's a chance until both teams are eliminated.
I'm just glad we are witnessing meaningful August baseball.
I'd love to finish over .500 for the first time in 7 years, then make the playoffs.
If the Mets do make the playoffs and a fortunate enough to advance to the WS I honestly don't care even a little who the Mets opponent is, Yankees, Red Sox, Royals, don't care.
This.
This bodes well for the Mets chances...credit to sshin05
Rich Coutinho
In my life 2 times Mets ruled this city and NYY fan reaction was Seaver and Koosman are not all that (69) and wait till u play Bosox (86)
Rich Coutinho
NYY deserve credit for their season my ? is why are their fans more concerned about Mets getting the back pages?
Rich Coutinho
I know Mets r getting very good when NYY fans get that high pitched screaming voice about NY baseball That train is never late
Rich Coutinho
I remember as a kid in 1969 when Mets finally took sole possession of first place from Cubs, Seaver said, "My God we have a magic #."
Odds are slim but you never know anything can happen
Rich Coutinho
In my life 2 times Mets ruled this city and NYY fan reaction was Seaver and Koosman are not all that (69) and wait till u play Bosox (86)
Rich Coutinho
NYY deserve credit for their season my ? is why are their fans more concerned about Mets getting the back pages?
Rich Coutinho
I know Mets r getting very good when NYY fans get that high pitched screaming voice about NY baseball That train is never late
Rich Coutinho
I remember as a kid in 1969 when Mets finally took sole possession of first place from Cubs, Seaver said, "My God we have a magic #."
This must be the guy, about 12-13 years back, when the Yanks had opened 2 consecutive seasons with a West Coast trip and finally opened a year at home, who called WFAN and accused Major League Baseball of being in the tank for them because they opened at home.
back in the old days when Old Al Leiter and Mike Hampton were the Mets' best pitchers.
Who would look forward to facing that staff in the playoffs/WS?
yeah, but the 2000 Mets lineup was practically the '27 Yankees compared to this group.
If they wind up getting Wright back, the lineup is actually pretty decent. Which is insane considering how piss poor it was as recently as 10 days ago.
Duda catching fire, d'Arnaud returning and the acquisitions of Cespedes, Uribe and Johnson turned the entire thing over.
RE: RE: RE: As a Yankee fan, I found the idea of a Subway Series better
back in the old days when Old Al Leiter and Mike Hampton were the Mets' best pitchers.
Who would look forward to facing that staff in the playoffs/WS?
yeah, but the 2000 Mets lineup was practically the '27 Yankees compared to this group.
If they wind up getting Wright back, the lineup is actually pretty decent. Which is insane considering how piss poor it was as recently as 10 days ago.
Duda catching fire, d'Arnaud returning and the acquisitions of Cespedes, Uribe and Johnson turned the entire thing over.
Yeah if the Mets actually make it to the series I think it would mean that their lineup has come together by that point.
That gives the Mets three actual major league hitters, so that's great! I know Mets fans like to talk about D'Arnaud as if he were Mike Piazza, but the guy is hardly an established hitter. He had a nice month last year and a nice month this year. Swell. Wright's 33, hasn't taken a swing since April, and they're not sure when he's coming back. Even if he comes back, he was mediocre last year. At his age, and with back problems, I don't know how much you could actually expect from him.
There's really no sense in debating anything with someone who is just going to make things up.
Zero Met fans talk about d'Arnaud as if he's Piazza. He's just got the highest offensive ceiling of any C we've had since (save for 1 year of Paul LoDuca, I guess...) and is a sizable upgrade over the players we've had to use in his absence.
Granderson is also having a nice year. I'd say we have more than 3 MLB hitters but I guess I'm just some delusional Mets fan...
That gives the Mets three actual major league hitters, so that's great! I know Mets fans like to talk about D'Arnaud as if he were Mike Piazza, but the guy is hardly an established hitter. He had a nice month last year and a nice month this year. Swell. Wright's 33, hasn't taken a swing since April, and they're not sure when he's coming back. Even if he comes back, he was mediocre last year. At his age, and with back problems, I don't know how much you could actually expect from him.
And Kelly Johnson fucking sucks. He's garbage.
And all those reasons are way they may not even make the playoffs let alone the WS, but if they did make the WS you have to assume that their lineup came together and produced.
He can still smoke mistakes but good pitchers will get him to chase bad pitches.
Fine, forget Piazza - they talk about him like he's a plus MLB hitter, which is completely unproven. His numbers last year were relentlessly average, and while he got off to a hot start this year we're talking about what, 100 ABs.
I was mistaken - four legit hitters if you include Murphy with Duda, Granderson and Cespedes. He's pretty average, but he's OK.
But doesn't mean fans of both teams can't enjoy this ride and appreciate what both teams are doing this year. And certainly both teams will build from this in coming years.
The future is bright. And I could see one two years down the line.
You guys get to enjoy competitive baseball most years, do we not get to enjoy when we're finally competitive without having to read the condescending BS?
d'Arnaud's numbers last year are "relentlessly average" because he was absolutely pitiful/lost from the start of the season until early June. He got sent down for a couple weeks and was a completely different hitter when he returned.
He's basically maintained what he was post-demotion in the limited time he's played this year as well.
I don't know who the "they" is that you are referring to but there's reason to be optimistic about him as a hitter moving forward if he can actually stay healthy.
Granderson is still a flawed player but he's carved out a nice niche as a leadoff man this year. He's been getting on base at a solid clip and his power has been pretty good. He should hit ~25 HR's this year. The value is certainly there. He's on pace to be a 4 WAR player this year.
I just dont understand why you're so worked up by Mets fans
being happy for once. In any event, all we need is ok offense. We've been bad this year on offense, but we have the potential to add back 3 "professional" bats in a 3 week span -- Wright, Ces, and TDA.
Yes TDA is unproven. But you need to look his 2014 as two seasons -- before and after his early-summer demotion. Before: terrible. After: 250 ABs at 800 OPS. So over the last 13 months, he's about a 815 OPS catcher in 350 ABs. Inexperienced, but watching him he's clearly a mature, good hitter.
But the real strength of the team isnt the lineup. The lineup just needs to give us a chance. It's the pitchers who will win us playoff round(s) if we're so fortunate. Harvey, deGrom, and Syndergaard are fantastic. And throw hard stuff that is made for playoff baseball.
Mets fans are on an emotional rollercoaster this season too. Everyone was freaking out after the Padres loss. Then they win a few against the Nationals and they're talking about the World Series.
Mets fans are on an emotional rollercoaster this season too. Everyone was freaking out after the Padres loss. Then they win a few against the Nationals and they're talking about the World Series.
I've always been a Mets fan but the bipolar fan base has always reminded me of the Jets fans. Despair/anger to World Series/Dynasty within a week
Calm down chief. Mets fans are bi polar to say the least. Call into Wfan and bitch about something I think a line is open...
It's whoever is the hottest. Look at the SF Giants last season, who were just a WC team
A lot of teams and a lot of baseball stand between both. Even if they were the two best teams in baseball, the odds would be against it.
I-70 series.
It's about a 4+ hour drive.
The Yankees I don't think have the team to do it. They have won a lot of games, but I don't think they have enough starting pitching to get there.
I like the Royals, Blue Jays, and Astros in the American League... I think they will rise to the top and it should be a great American League playoffs (a lot of young and established stars).
The Yankees I don't think have the team to do it. They have won a lot of games, but I don't think they have enough starting pitching to get there.
I like the Royals, Blue Jays, and Astros in the American League... I think they will rise to the top and it should be a great American League playoffs (a lot of young and established stars).
Who is Thor?
The Yankees I don't think have the team to do it. They have won a lot of games, but I don't think they have enough starting pitching to get there.
I like the Royals, Blue Jays, and Astros in the American League... I think they will rise to the top and it should be a great American League playoffs (a lot of young and established stars).
Royals? does that team scare "you." But a legitimate team though.
Blue Jays? have to get past the Yankees - difficult task but not impossible.
Astros - Angels will eventually pass the Astros.
Cardinals and Pirates in NL.
Yankees starting pitchers Tanaka, Pineda, Eovaldi and big if - Nova. He will improve his control every start. The BP is arguably as good or better than KC. Don't dismiss the Yankees
Batman is getting forgetful in his old age
I see Giants fans doing the same thing after wins and losses. The World is ending or this team is going all the way. All fanbases do this, including the Yankees in the midst of an actual race.
This feeling of superiority some New York fans have is really misguided. There are plenty of awful Giants fans, just like there are plenty of awful Mets fans and plenty of awful Yankees fans.
I'm fairly confident most met fans are being cautiously optimistic and containing their excitement.
We all know how quickly things can fall apart.
Saying a subway series is "not an absurd notion" is predicting a World Series? I'm not sure I agree with that.
Of course there are some who think they are winning the world series, just like some Giants fans are predicting a Super Bowl. I saw a Yankees fan posting about how the yankees are going to win the World Series on Jim Bruer's facebook last night.
I just can't agree with the notion that this is common thought among Mets fans, as many have insinuated.
Yankees: 93.3% (76.2/17.2)
Mets: 59.7% (54.5/5.2)
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I'd love to finish over .500 for the first time in 7 years, then make the playoffs.
If the Mets do make the playoffs and a fortunate enough to advance to the WS I honestly don't care even a little who the Mets opponent is, Yankees, Red Sox, Royals, don't care.
as for the chances of a Subway Series, sure there's a chance until both teams are eliminated.
So what the fuck... why not?
I'd love to finish over .500 for the first time in 7 years, then make the playoffs.
If the Mets do make the playoffs and a fortunate enough to advance to the WS I honestly don't care even a little who the Mets opponent is, Yankees, Red Sox, Royals, don't care.
This.
Royals 2014
Cards 2013
Rangers 2011
Highest % of pitches 95MPH+ since 2008
2015 Mets 22.8%
2009 Tigers 17.6
2014 Royals 16.2
2014 Marlins 14.8
2012 Rays 14.6
2015 Indians 13.4
Who would look forward to facing that staff in the playoffs/WS?
In my life 2 times Mets ruled this city and NYY fan reaction was Seaver and Koosman are not all that (69) and wait till u play Bosox (86)
Rich Coutinho
NYY deserve credit for their season my ? is why are their fans more concerned about Mets getting the back pages?
Rich Coutinho
I know Mets r getting very good when NYY fans get that high pitched screaming voice about NY baseball That train is never late
Rich Coutinho
I remember as a kid in 1969 when Mets finally took sole possession of first place from Cubs, Seaver said, "My God we have a magic #."
Who would look forward to facing that staff in the playoffs/WS?
yeah, but the 2000 Mets lineup was practically the '27 Yankees compared to this group.
In my life 2 times Mets ruled this city and NYY fan reaction was Seaver and Koosman are not all that (69) and wait till u play Bosox (86)
Rich Coutinho
NYY deserve credit for their season my ? is why are their fans more concerned about Mets getting the back pages?
Rich Coutinho
I know Mets r getting very good when NYY fans get that high pitched screaming voice about NY baseball That train is never late
Rich Coutinho
I remember as a kid in 1969 when Mets finally took sole possession of first place from Cubs, Seaver said, "My God we have a magic #."
This must be the guy, about 12-13 years back, when the Yanks had opened 2 consecutive seasons with a West Coast trip and finally opened a year at home, who called WFAN and accused Major League Baseball of being in the tank for them because they opened at home.
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back in the old days when Old Al Leiter and Mike Hampton were the Mets' best pitchers.
Who would look forward to facing that staff in the playoffs/WS?
yeah, but the 2000 Mets lineup was practically the '27 Yankees compared to this group.
If they wind up getting Wright back, the lineup is actually pretty decent. Which is insane considering how piss poor it was as recently as 10 days ago.
Duda catching fire, d'Arnaud returning and the acquisitions of Cespedes, Uribe and Johnson turned the entire thing over.
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back in the old days when Old Al Leiter and Mike Hampton were the Mets' best pitchers.
Who would look forward to facing that staff in the playoffs/WS?
yeah, but the 2000 Mets lineup was practically the '27 Yankees compared to this group.
If they wind up getting Wright back, the lineup is actually pretty decent. Which is insane considering how piss poor it was as recently as 10 days ago.
Duda catching fire, d'Arnaud returning and the acquisitions of Cespedes, Uribe and Johnson turned the entire thing over.
Yeah if the Mets actually make it to the series I think it would mean that their lineup has come together by that point.
And Kelly Johnson fucking sucks. He's garbage.
Zero Met fans talk about d'Arnaud as if he's Piazza. He's just got the highest offensive ceiling of any C we've had since (save for 1 year of Paul LoDuca, I guess...) and is a sizable upgrade over the players we've had to use in his absence.
Granderson is also having a nice year. I'd say we have more than 3 MLB hitters but I guess I'm just some delusional Mets fan...
And Kelly Johnson fucking sucks. He's garbage.
And all those reasons are way they may not even make the playoffs let alone the WS, but if they did make the WS you have to assume that their lineup came together and produced.
Fine, forget Piazza - they talk about him like he's a plus MLB hitter, which is completely unproven. His numbers last year were relentlessly average, and while he got off to a hot start this year we're talking about what, 100 ABs.
I was mistaken - four legit hitters if you include Murphy with Duda, Granderson and Cespedes. He's pretty average, but he's OK.
But doesn't mean fans of both teams can't enjoy this ride and appreciate what both teams are doing this year. And certainly both teams will build from this in coming years.
The future is bright. And I could see one two years down the line.
your posts are dripping with condescension
You guys get to enjoy competitive baseball most years, do we not get to enjoy when we're finally competitive without having to read the condescending BS?
3/31 - 6/6 (128 AB): .180/.271/.273/.544, 3 HR, 3 2B, 9 RBI, 25 K's
6/24 - 9/3 (247 AB): .272/.319/.486/.805, 10 HR, 19 2B, 32 RBI, 32 K's
He's basically maintained what he was post-demotion in the limited time he's played this year as well.
I don't know who the "they" is that you are referring to but there's reason to be optimistic about him as a hitter moving forward if he can actually stay healthy.
Yes TDA is unproven. But you need to look his 2014 as two seasons -- before and after his early-summer demotion. Before: terrible. After: 250 ABs at 800 OPS. So over the last 13 months, he's about a 815 OPS catcher in 350 ABs. Inexperienced, but watching him he's clearly a mature, good hitter.
But the real strength of the team isnt the lineup. The lineup just needs to give us a chance. It's the pitchers who will win us playoff round(s) if we're so fortunate. Harvey, deGrom, and Syndergaard are fantastic. And throw hard stuff that is made for playoff baseball.