yeah, having Conforto here is a waste. I'd rather see him rake in Vegas every day. Kirk's neck pain must be really bothering him to not even be able to sit on the bench
...that will be a bonus. Spinal stenosis cases involving professional athletes have a track record of ending badly. We know David has the character and will work his ass off. Ultimately it may be beyond his control despite his desire.
A few days prior, Wheeler had already asked his agents to express his desire to remain with the Mets. But he wondered if it was enough.
As Wheeler summoned the nerve to call Alderson, it became clear that the message needed to come from him directly. He decided that it needed to be, as he said, "refreshed."
Throughout the conversation, Wheeler reached for the proper tone, aware of the fine line that distinguishes asking from begging. He expressed the reasons for his desire to remain a Met, all the while acknowledging that he ultimately held no control over that fate.
By then, trade talks with the Reds had died down. So in an immediate sense, the call proved moot.
Yet Alderson admitted the conversation "actually had quite an impact." In all of his years in baseball, the general manager said he had never seen a player in Wheeler's position take the unusual step of calling.
"Again, if you go back to Wednesday and even this conversation, we're talking about human beings," Alderson said. "We all develop an attachment to each other and whatever capacity we serve, so it's hard."
As with deGrom last night it is understandable they may start out a little shaky until they get past their initial nerves.
I thought Thor was reasonably sharp. A really good hitter drove a 2-0 fastball that tailed in a little too much (also just the 4th pitch of the game). Definitely went heavy on the fastball that inning, but threw a couple good breaking balls so hopefully it was just gameplan and not lack of comfort with the breaking stuff. I'm guessing we see a lot more breaking balls next inning.
I know you're joking around but it wasn't a crazy idea to suggest maybe he just needed to clear his head for a week and get his swing back. It wasn't just overreacting to a 2 week slump.... he was beyond lost and it was for a long time. Extremely worrisome.
No one saw him going on THIS kind of tear. He's having a week that is in Barry Bonds territory. I'm as glad as anyone it happened but still.
But apparently it was the addition of Kelly Johnson that sparked Duda's turnaround. When Johnson was signed, Duda asked Collins if he was signed to play first base. Collins responded with "well, that's up to you."
Well played, Terry...well played.
Ok, I live on the west coast and don't get to watch
knowing you might get 6 invisible weeks in a row? You might get 3 weeks an 15 home runs? What do you do if you are SA?
We can no longer sign Duda. He's well on his way to having back to back 30 homerun seasons. He would be a complete fool not to at least test free agency in 2 years. Enjoy him while we can.
thru the 2017 season. Either he takes a team friendly deal soon or he plays it out.
What team friendly deal though? He's up for big arbitration the next two years. The chance to extend him was before this season and he smartly refused.
What's the deal with the umps in the background? Haha
Im just not that worried about Duda. He's here for another few years. I just wouldnt go crazy committing to a semi-late bloomer who will be 32 during the spring training following his arb years. Im not lining up for Duda's age 34 season. For all we know, Smith or Wright (or Conforto) will be a fine 1b option we already control in 2018.
I dont think Duda intends on playing out his two arbitration years.
Im just not that worried about Duda. He's here for another few years. I just wouldnt go crazy committing to a semi-late bloomer who will be 32 during the spring training following his arb years. Im not lining up for Duda's age 34 season. For all we know, Smith or Wright (or Conforto) will be a fine 1b option we already control in 2018.
Im not worried about it either. Just saying we likely missed the chance to sign him to a friendly contract. If he keeps this up he's going to get 30 million per season in a couple years probably on a 5-6 year deal. Luckily Dominic Smith has an arrival date of roughly 2 years so we could either sign him or have a nice fallback. Ill worry about that then.
thru the 2017 season. Either he takes a team friendly deal soon or he plays it out.
What team friendly deal though? He's up for big arbitration the next two years. The chance to extend him was before this season and he smartly refused.
He will be 31 by then. More than a few major leaugers have seen their hitting stroke disappear before that age. Is he willing to gamble? Is his agent reasonable?
thru the 2017 season. Either he takes a team friendly deal soon or he plays it out.
What team friendly deal though? He's up for big arbitration the next two years. The chance to extend him was before this season and he smartly refused.
Having the money guaranteed plus a few years at a fair rate would still likely be worth it to him. I bet he resigns after this season with 1 extra FA year added on and a big option year. Guarantees himself minimum 75-85% of what he would have gotten over that same period of time in even the best case scenario, just guarantees it now instead of 30 months from now.
thru the 2017 season. Either he takes a team friendly deal soon or he plays it out.
What team friendly deal though? He's up for big arbitration the next two years. The chance to extend him was before this season and he smartly refused.
He will be 31 by then. More than a few major leaugers have seen their hitting stroke disappear before that age. Is he willing to gamble? Is his agent reasonable?
Nah. Premier power slugging first baseman are probably in their prime at 31. They don't need speed and range or any of that. And Duda got a real late start waiting for a spot to clear for him. He has very low tread on those tires.
thru the 2017 season. Either he takes a team friendly deal soon or he plays it out.
What team friendly deal though? He's up for big arbitration the next two years. The chance to extend him was before this season and he smartly refused.
Having the money guaranteed plus a few years at a fair rate would still likely be worth it to him. I bet he resigns after this season with 1 extra FA year added on and a big option year. Guarantees himself minimum 75-85% of what he would have gotten over that same period of time in even the best case scenario, just guarantees it now instead of 30 months from now.
I disagree. Unless they blow him out of the water it makes no sense for Duda. That would just take him one year past his prime and his one big chance at a huge payday. He's making 20 million in arbitration the next two years anyway.
the same deal for Upton as they did for Cspedes but were turned down.
I hadn't heard that before.
Yeah San Diego was obviously asking for the moon for any of their players. The fact that they didn't make one move at a time when a bunch of teams were all in is very telling
that could go wrong in 2 full seasons. Nelson Cruz was top 10 in MVP voting and what massive contract did he cash in this offseason? He's getting 14 and change a year, less than 60m total. Considering they already had really extensive talks Duda seems like the kind of guy who would be amenable to an extension now, and if so you can bet it would pretty reasonable for both sides. If not that's fine, he can roll the dice and continued to be an extremely valuable undervalued asset for 2 years. The Mets have all the leverage, that's why they only offered him between 30-40M preseason. Remember the rumors were they were close to a deal so it's not like Duda & his agent said the Mets offended him with a low offer.
40-50M range was probably what Duda was looking for preseason and the Mets will possibly regret not doing it, the same way Duda possibly regretted not doing it last week when he was playing terribly. Obviously there are a ton of things yet to play out with their offseason budget (Cespedes being the biggest) but I'm sure at some point we'll hear the 2 sides negotiating again.
natural in CF too so far. Then again, I thought Granderson did a nice job in CF also last night. Time will tell but it opens the door to so many other possibilities this year.
What about that 1B the Mets drafted a few years back?
that could go wrong in 2 full seasons. Nelson Cruz was top 10 in MVP voting and what massive contract did he cash in this offseason? He's getting 14 and change a year, less than 60m total. Considering they already had really extensive talks Duda seems like the kind of guy who would be amenable to an extension now, and if so you can bet it would pretty reasonable for both sides. If not that's fine, he can roll the dice and continued to be an extremely valuable undervalued asset for 2 years. The Mets have all the leverage, that's why they only offered him between 30-40M preseason. Remember the rumors were they were close to a deal so it's not like Duda & his agent said the Mets offended him with a low offer.
40-50M range was probably what Duda was looking for preseason and the Mets will possibly regret not doing it, the same way Duda possibly regretted not doing it last week when he was playing terribly. Obviously there are a ton of things yet to play out with their offseason budget (Cespedes being the biggest) but I'm sure at some point we'll hear the 2 sides negotiating again.
Eh thats fine but I still disagree. It made a lot of sense for Duda to extend off this year because he's making so little in arbitration this year. You tear that up and offer him more money up front and now suddenly its worth it to him. Now he's getting big money in arbitration anyway so unless you plan on tearing up the whole thing and giving him 100-150 million right now(never gonna happen) he's not extending. And the Cruz comparison is a poor one. Cruz is basically a DH and was coming off a career year playing in a band box. He also had a career of mediocrity. Duda has been a full time starter last year and this year and both are shaping up to be 30 HR seasons. I can't even name 3-4 players in the game that have hit back to back 30 HR in the last few years.
Either way. Just happy we have him for the next two years. If we are winning WS and Citified is packed maybe we are more willing to open up the checkbook in 2018.
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develops better control? Maybe with a clean arm, and a year spent pitching more than throwing, he comes into 2017 as a real 4th 1/2 type?
Oh, yeah, and Matz. This is really ridiculous.
Wheeler was already flashing last year. His K/9 was awesome. So was his ground ball ratio. We are so spoiled by the other 4, we lost sight that Wheeler had a pretty nice first full season. Wheeler is ultra competitive too. He's going to get in with these guys and want to be very bit as good. Im excited for 2016 having all these guys together.
Hopefully he can squeeze out one more here but if anyone gets on you gotta give him the quick hook. Go to Robles and then Clippard for the save. Familia has pitched a lot these last few days.
Hopefully he can squeeze out one more here but if anyone gets on you gotta give him the quick hook. Go to Robles and then Clippard for the save. Familia has pitched a lot these last few days.
I'd honestly hesitate to say it can be better than it has been this season, even when Wheeler and Matz get healthy. I mean, I know in theory it can, but the entire staff has been dominant this year. If Familia didn't have a terrible week they're in first by multiple games right now.
You just know Clippard wants this save against his old team
He's due. if they do get to the post season though I don't see any way he gets a start.
No chance but he's here because he's an innings eater and we need him to at least give us that down the stretch. He'll be facing weaker lineups now so it should be a tad easier.
Im betting he reclaims LF starting tomorrow with Cespedes/Granderson sharing CF.
Not goign to happen. Cespedes and Grandy are the big bats that need to play almost every day.
Obviously. Im saying if Cespedes is in CF, Granderson would be in RF. In fact I think against highhanded pitching its going to be Conforto-Cespedes-Granderson the majority of the time.
Hernandez pitched today.....so we don't face him this series!
For a couple of days last week, we were the laughing stock of the league. And tonight, mets fans are the talk of the league for a completely different reason.
With Cincinnati out of it do you guys think it would be cheaper to wait and buy tickets until just before the game or buy them now where there might be some deals from people getting rid of their tickets as soon as the can?
I have a feeling that series October 2-4 against these guys at Citi...
Lets beef up our wins on a softer schedule and let the last remaining pieces (Wright, Matz, Blevins, Cuddyer, and Goedell) trickle in. I expect a waiver reliever also.
RE: I have a feeling that series October 2-4 against these guys at Citi...
Hope so, man. Feels so good right now but we know how this team goes.. we'll probably have a couple more valleys between peaks.
Just a fun time to be a fan right now, though. Looking forward to these next couple months.
One of the really big pluses that came from these moves was how much stronger it made the bench. We have MLB players on it now and can play matchups more and sub late in games effectively. The trickle down effect is massive.
for the last two months. We have so much depth right now at so many positions. I know Im probably alone on an island, but even adding Cuddyer's 8 homeruns off the bench is going to be pretty nice. We are going to be able to matchup perfectly in almost any situation.
you can feel the electricity. The fans were non-stop almost after the mets took the lead. Met fans have been starving for a good team. Literally starving. You can just sense it at the series over the weekend. It was like a playoff atmosphere. I've been to the 2006 NLCS game 6 for the must win game with John Maine starting. The stadium was rocking before the game started, that's how great the atmosphere was.
Nah. Premier power slugging first baseman are probably in their prime at 31. They don't need speed and range or any of that. And Duda got a real late start waiting for a spot to clear for him. He has very low tread on those tires.
There's a good number of 1B who are at or near their peak at age 31, but the track record of 1B in age 33-34 outside the peak steroid era is... not good. Big bodies carrying a lot of weight (a category to which Duda definitely belongs - not that I'm calling him fat or anything, but he's a large human being) typically do not age well. Maybe Duda ages slightly better because he has slightly more tread on his tires, but even if he played slightly less in game, he still carries that weight around every day, in warmups, in BP, on the plane... maybe you adjust the aging curve by a few months or a year, I think more than that is speculative at best.
If I'm the Mets I let this play out, bank on Dom Smith as my 1B of the future and use the Duda money to pay for something other than 1B decline years.
Nah. Premier power slugging first baseman are probably in their prime at 31. They don't need speed and range or any of that. And Duda got a real late start waiting for a spot to clear for him. He has very low tread on those tires.
There's a good number of 1B who are at or near their peak at age 31, but the track record of 1B in age 33-34 outside the peak steroid era is... not good. Big bodies carrying a lot of weight (a category to which Duda definitely belongs - not that I'm calling him fat or anything, but he's a large human being) typically do not age well. Maybe Duda ages slightly better because he has slightly more tread on his tires, but even if he played slightly less in game, he still carries that weight around every day, in warmups, in BP, on the plane... maybe you adjust the aging curve by a few months or a year, I think more than that is speculative at best.
If I'm the Mets I let this play out, bank on Dom Smith as my 1B of the future and use the Duda money to pay for something other than 1B decline years.
If Dominic Smith's b
Totally fair but I could totally see one of the preeminent power hitting first baseman(again assuming he continues to be a 30 HR wRC+135ish bat) in baseball getting a 5-6 year deal at 31 with the expectation you are overpaying him on the downside of his career. Happens all the time.
Totally fair but I could totally see one of the preeminent power hitting first baseman(again assuming he continues to be a 30 HR wRC+135ish bat) in baseball getting a 5-6 year deal at 31 with the expectation you are overpaying him on the downside of his career. Happens all the time.
Oh I could totally see him getting that deal - I just don't think the Mets necessarily need to be the team to pay him. Enjoy the prime years under arb and then enjoy paying Dom Smith 500K instead of 20M and spend the money somewhere else. This pitching staff is cheap now but it won't be cheap forever.
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Totally fair but I could totally see one of the preeminent power hitting first baseman(again assuming he continues to be a 30 HR wRC+135ish bat) in baseball getting a 5-6 year deal at 31 with the expectation you are overpaying him on the downside of his career. Happens all the time.
Oh I could totally see him getting that deal - I just don't think the Mets necessarily need to be the team to pay him. Enjoy the prime years under arb and then enjoy paying Dom Smith 500K instead of 20M and spend the money somewhere else. This pitching staff is cheap now but it won't be cheap forever.
Yup. That's kind of where I'm at. It should work out either way. Either by then the finances are better and maybe if he's a fan favorite you over pay him to keep him, if not you have a first round pick being groomed for that role.
The Mets have a real shot to be a VERY relevant team for the next few
1) Even with injuries, they have enough plus pitching to have one of the top 3 rotations in baseball. They MUST commit to locking up a few now, while they are still cheap.
2) They MUST get 1 or 2 legit bats for this lineup.
3) They have to seriously decide whether Wright has any future (immediate or longer term) at this point.
4) D'Arnaud either has to remain healthy or they must be willing to trade him.
RE: The Mets have a real shot to be a VERY relevant team for the next few
1) Even with injuries, they have enough plus pitching to have one of the top 3 rotations in baseball. They MUST commit to locking up a few now, while they are still cheap.
2) They MUST get 1 or 2 legit bats for this lineup.
3) They have to seriously decide whether Wright has any future (immediate or longer term) at this point.
4) D'Arnaud either has to remain healthy or they must be willing to trade him.
Biggest question for me is who they get to replace Cespedes assuming he doesn't come back. Can't just assume Conforto is "really good" next year.
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Yup. That's kind of where I'm at. It should work out either way. Either by then the finances are better and maybe if he's a fan favorite you over pay him to keep him, if not you have a first round pick being groomed for that role.
And the QO system is still in place, he's an easy choice to tag.
RE: RE: The Mets have a real shot to be a VERY relevant team for the next few
1) Even with injuries, they have enough plus pitching to have one of the top 3 rotations in baseball. They MUST commit to locking up a few now, while they are still cheap.
2) They MUST get 1 or 2 legit bats for this lineup.
3) They have to seriously decide whether Wright has any future (immediate or longer term) at this point.
4) D'Arnaud either has to remain healthy or they must be willing to trade him.
Biggest question for me is who they get to replace Cespedes assuming he doesn't come back. Can't just assume Conforto is "really good" next year.
I think the Mets have to resign Cespedes or make a run at Upton. Looking at the free agent landscape next year those are the top OFs, and SA tried to trade for Upton before the trade deadline.
Cespedes were close to a deal and ran into the deadline, is there anything preventing both the Mets/Cespedes from ripping up the deal and allowing the Mets to continue to negotiate with him? I'm not sure why Cespedes would want to take a willing bidder out of the mix.
Cespedes were close to a deal and ran into the deadline, is there anything preventing both the Mets/Cespedes from ripping up the deal and allowing the Mets to continue to negotiate with him? I'm not sure why Cespedes would want to take a willing bidder out of the mix.
Sadly with Jay-Z as his agent I find it very, very hars to believe he's going to sign with the Mets before testing the market and if he hits the market he CAN'T return. Basically he would have to absolutely fall in love with the team AND walk away from a likely bigger deal despite being open about wanting to test the market. We can live for today, I still like the deal but it's why Gomez/Bruce made more "sense".
(1) a heart of the order with at least four or five 3-5 WAR bats; (2) a lineup that does not count on any <2 WAR players with an emphasis on more production out of the middle of the diamond (SS/2B/CF). You need a professional heart of the order, and enough depth and so that you arent just filling a position with a near replacement level type.
For 2016 we have four obvious potential 4 WAR bats (and Im focusing more on offense; Lagares gets most of his value from D) -- Duda, Wright, TDA, and Grandy. Two of those guys are massive injury risks, and a third is older and is having his first good season since 2011. Making matters worse, the only guy under control who seems like a halfway decent bet to really break into that group next season is Flores. No way am I projecting Conforto or Herrera to be in that range next season. So it seems to me that we need to add another 4 win bat this offseason, be it resigning YC or trading for someone. I dont see much of a chance that we sign away such a FA, especially since the positions of needs are the expensive ones -- SS, 2B, and CF.
decline. Acting like him hitting 43 homeruns in 2012 was a poor season is quite the stretch even if his defensive metrics pulled his WAR down substantially that year. 2013 he was a 1.5 WAR player in like a third of a season of atbats so Id hardly call that "bad" either.
Really Granderson's only off year was his 20 HR 2014 campaign with the Mets which tends to be a trend with FA who come here for some reason in the first season.
Way too many moving parts right now. Conforto should be starting in LF tonight again. What if he starts to prove himself THIS year? What if he is the playoff hero and the reason we win the World Series? lol. What if Cespedes sucks? He didn't do jack for Boston when they traded for him last year and is also notably streaky.
I think we'll make a competitive offer to Cespedes when the time comes but if he declines and wants to test FA? C'est la vi.
Yes. Tejada or Lagares
And with their luck, it will be a delayed return
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David Wright will stay with Mets in Miami, then St. Lucie to ease himself into games later in week.
And with their luck, it will be a delayed return
yeah, having Conforto here is a waste. I'd rather see him rake in Vegas every day. Kirk's neck pain must be really bothering him to not even be able to sit on the bench
Thanks, I don't recall them even mentioning him getting hurt but I do think they said something last not about his not being available.
This is why a playoff run, starting THIS year is so vital. Fans are starting to come back. Dominant pitching is also easy to root for and watch.
A few days prior, Wheeler had already asked his agents to express his desire to remain with the Mets. But he wondered if it was enough.
As Wheeler summoned the nerve to call Alderson, it became clear that the message needed to come from him directly. He decided that it needed to be, as he said, "refreshed."
Throughout the conversation, Wheeler reached for the proper tone, aware of the fine line that distinguishes asking from begging. He expressed the reasons for his desire to remain a Met, all the while acknowledging that he ultimately held no control over that fate.
By then, trade talks with the Reds had died down. So in an immediate sense, the call proved moot.
Yet Alderson admitted the conversation "actually had quite an impact." In all of his years in baseball, the general manager said he had never seen a player in Wheeler's position take the unusual step of calling.
"Again, if you go back to Wednesday and even this conversation, we're talking about human beings," Alderson said. "We all develop an attachment to each other and whatever capacity we serve, so it's hard."
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He was effectively blocked by the guys in front of him
I thought Thor was reasonably sharp. A really good hitter drove a 2-0 fastball that tailed in a little too much (also just the 4th pitch of the game). Definitely went heavy on the fastball that inning, but threw a couple good breaking balls so hopefully it was just gameplan and not lack of comfort with the breaking stuff. I'm guessing we see a lot more breaking balls next inning.
Sounds like it as well.
Yeah and didn't you want him sent down about ten days ago? (grin) sorry I couldn't resist
Agreed. These big 3 pitchers are amazing.
No one saw him going on THIS kind of tear. He's having a week that is in Barry Bonds territory. I'm as glad as anyone it happened but still.
he has been on fire since, absolute fire.
I should post more negative comments.
Yep.
Would be nice if Bart could pitch even just average....
Well played, Terry...well played.
Real fake umps
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We can no longer sign Duda. He's well on his way to having back to back 30 homerun seasons. He would be a complete fool not to at least test free agency in 2 years. Enjoy him while we can.
What team friendly deal though? He's up for big arbitration the next two years. The chance to extend him was before this season and he smartly refused.
Hilarious.
Im not worried about it either. Just saying we likely missed the chance to sign him to a friendly contract. If he keeps this up he's going to get 30 million per season in a couple years probably on a 5-6 year deal. Luckily Dominic Smith has an arrival date of roughly 2 years so we could either sign him or have a nice fallback. Ill worry about that then.
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thru the 2017 season. Either he takes a team friendly deal soon or he plays it out.
What team friendly deal though? He's up for big arbitration the next two years. The chance to extend him was before this season and he smartly refused.
He will be 31 by then. More than a few major leaugers have seen their hitting stroke disappear before that age. Is he willing to gamble? Is his agent reasonable?
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What team friendly deal though? He's up for big arbitration the next two years. The chance to extend him was before this season and he smartly refused.
Having the money guaranteed plus a few years at a fair rate would still likely be worth it to him. I bet he resigns after this season with 1 extra FA year added on and a big option year. Guarantees himself minimum 75-85% of what he would have gotten over that same period of time in even the best case scenario, just guarantees it now instead of 30 months from now.
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thru the 2017 season. Either he takes a team friendly deal soon or he plays it out.
What team friendly deal though? He's up for big arbitration the next two years. The chance to extend him was before this season and he smartly refused.
He will be 31 by then. More than a few major leaugers have seen their hitting stroke disappear before that age. Is he willing to gamble? Is his agent reasonable?
Nah. Premier power slugging first baseman are probably in their prime at 31. They don't need speed and range or any of that. And Duda got a real late start waiting for a spot to clear for him. He has very low tread on those tires.
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thru the 2017 season. Either he takes a team friendly deal soon or he plays it out.
What team friendly deal though? He's up for big arbitration the next two years. The chance to extend him was before this season and he smartly refused.
Having the money guaranteed plus a few years at a fair rate would still likely be worth it to him. I bet he resigns after this season with 1 extra FA year added on and a big option year. Guarantees himself minimum 75-85% of what he would have gotten over that same period of time in even the best case scenario, just guarantees it now instead of 30 months from now.
I disagree. Unless they blow him out of the water it makes no sense for Duda. That would just take him one year past his prime and his one big chance at a huge payday. He's making 20 million in arbitration the next two years anyway.
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I hadn't heard that before.
I hadn't heard that before.
Yeah San Diego was obviously asking for the moon for any of their players. The fact that they didn't make one move at a time when a bunch of teams were all in is very telling
Noah has to have an easy 7th to have a chance to get the 8th. Hopefully get some more runs
40-50M range was probably what Duda was looking for preseason and the Mets will possibly regret not doing it, the same way Duda possibly regretted not doing it last week when he was playing terribly. Obviously there are a ton of things yet to play out with their offseason budget (Cespedes being the biggest) but I'm sure at some point we'll hear the 2 sides negotiating again.
40-50M range was probably what Duda was looking for preseason and the Mets will possibly regret not doing it, the same way Duda possibly regretted not doing it last week when he was playing terribly. Obviously there are a ton of things yet to play out with their offseason budget (Cespedes being the biggest) but I'm sure at some point we'll hear the 2 sides negotiating again.
Eh thats fine but I still disagree. It made a lot of sense for Duda to extend off this year because he's making so little in arbitration this year. You tear that up and offer him more money up front and now suddenly its worth it to him. Now he's getting big money in arbitration anyway so unless you plan on tearing up the whole thing and giving him 100-150 million right now(never gonna happen) he's not extending. And the Cruz comparison is a poor one. Cruz is basically a DH and was coming off a career year playing in a band box. He also had a career of mediocrity. Duda has been a full time starter last year and this year and both are shaping up to be 30 HR seasons. I can't even name 3-4 players in the game that have hit back to back 30 HR in the last few years.
Either way. Just happy we have him for the next two years. If we are winning WS and Citified is packed maybe we are more willing to open up the checkbook in 2018.
Yeah Dominc Smith has an ETA of about 2018 so it could work out perfectly actually.
Dom smith is in A+, it will take at least a couple years to get up.
Yeah his age is what sets him apart from the rest of they young guns
That's where a healthy Matz come in handy!
Clippard's probably closing tonight. Familia pitched 3 straight days.
Oh, yeah, and Matz. This is really ridiculous.
If they make the playoffs they will need to let him pitch.
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we gotta figure out a way to trim a couple starts somewhere because this dude NEEDS to be in the playoffs.
If they make the playoffs they will need to let him pitch.
Nats had the same problem a couple of years ago with Strasberg
Oh, yeah, and Matz. This is really ridiculous.
Wheeler was already flashing last year. His K/9 was awesome. So was his ground ball ratio. We are so spoiled by the other 4, we lost sight that Wheeler had a pretty nice first full season. Wheeler is ultra competitive too. He's going to get in with these guys and want to be very bit as good. Im excited for 2016 having all these guys together.
Hopefully it's at Citi , his walk to the plate the crowd will go insane
Not really a MVP
I'd go let Clippard finish with a 3 run lead
Looks like he owns Rivero. Hit the walk off of him on Friday.
Of course, Matz needs to get back into the rotation, as soon as he is healthy
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No chance but he's here because he's an innings eater and we need him to at least give us that down the stretch. He'll be facing weaker lineups now so it should be a tad easier.
Not goign to happen. Cespedes and Grandy are the big bats that need to play almost every day.
Imagine the pitching matchups for that series:
Greinke - Harvey
Kershaw - de Grom
Latos - Thor
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Im betting he reclaims LF starting tomorrow with Cespedes/Granderson sharing CF.
Not goign to happen. Cespedes and Grandy are the big bats that need to play almost every day.
Obviously. Im saying if Cespedes is in CF, Granderson would be in RF. In fact I think against highhanded pitching its going to be Conforto-Cespedes-Granderson the majority of the time.
We'll have a 7 game lead by then. ;)
Now take the series from the Marlins!
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...is going to be a very, very big one.
We'll have a 7 game lead by then. ;)
Hope so, man. Feels so good right now but we know how this team goes.. we'll probably have a couple more valleys between peaks.
Just a fun time to be a fan right now, though. Looking forward to these next couple months.
One of the really big pluses that came from these moves was how much stronger it made the bench. We have MLB players on it now and can play matchups more and sub late in games effectively. The trickle down effect is massive.
Granderson
Murphy
Cespedes
Duda
Wright
Conforto
TDA
Tejada
For the playoffs looks DAMN good with our pitching. Add one more reliever and this team will be jacked from every direction.
Yeah I think it's eventually a Cuddyer/Johnson platoon in LF.
There's a good number of 1B who are at or near their peak at age 31, but the track record of 1B in age 33-34 outside the peak steroid era is... not good. Big bodies carrying a lot of weight (a category to which Duda definitely belongs - not that I'm calling him fat or anything, but he's a large human being) typically do not age well. Maybe Duda ages slightly better because he has slightly more tread on his tires, but even if he played slightly less in game, he still carries that weight around every day, in warmups, in BP, on the plane... maybe you adjust the aging curve by a few months or a year, I think more than that is speculative at best.
If I'm the Mets I let this play out, bank on Dom Smith as my 1B of the future and use the Duda money to pay for something other than 1B decline years.
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Nah. Premier power slugging first baseman are probably in their prime at 31. They don't need speed and range or any of that. And Duda got a real late start waiting for a spot to clear for him. He has very low tread on those tires.
There's a good number of 1B who are at or near their peak at age 31, but the track record of 1B in age 33-34 outside the peak steroid era is... not good. Big bodies carrying a lot of weight (a category to which Duda definitely belongs - not that I'm calling him fat or anything, but he's a large human being) typically do not age well. Maybe Duda ages slightly better because he has slightly more tread on his tires, but even if he played slightly less in game, he still carries that weight around every day, in warmups, in BP, on the plane... maybe you adjust the aging curve by a few months or a year, I think more than that is speculative at best.
If I'm the Mets I let this play out, bank on Dom Smith as my 1B of the future and use the Duda money to pay for something other than 1B decline years.
If Dominic Smith's b
Totally fair but I could totally see one of the preeminent power hitting first baseman(again assuming he continues to be a 30 HR wRC+135ish bat) in baseball getting a 5-6 year deal at 31 with the expectation you are overpaying him on the downside of his career. Happens all the time.
Oh I could totally see him getting that deal - I just don't think the Mets necessarily need to be the team to pay him. Enjoy the prime years under arb and then enjoy paying Dom Smith 500K instead of 20M and spend the money somewhere else. This pitching staff is cheap now but it won't be cheap forever.
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Totally fair but I could totally see one of the preeminent power hitting first baseman(again assuming he continues to be a 30 HR wRC+135ish bat) in baseball getting a 5-6 year deal at 31 with the expectation you are overpaying him on the downside of his career. Happens all the time.
Oh I could totally see him getting that deal - I just don't think the Mets necessarily need to be the team to pay him. Enjoy the prime years under arb and then enjoy paying Dom Smith 500K instead of 20M and spend the money somewhere else. This pitching staff is cheap now but it won't be cheap forever.
Yup. That's kind of where I'm at. It should work out either way. Either by then the finances are better and maybe if he's a fan favorite you over pay him to keep him, if not you have a first round pick being groomed for that role.
1) Even with injuries, they have enough plus pitching to have one of the top 3 rotations in baseball. They MUST commit to locking up a few now, while they are still cheap.
2) They MUST get 1 or 2 legit bats for this lineup.
3) They have to seriously decide whether Wright has any future (immediate or longer term) at this point.
4) D'Arnaud either has to remain healthy or they must be willing to trade him.
1) Even with injuries, they have enough plus pitching to have one of the top 3 rotations in baseball. They MUST commit to locking up a few now, while they are still cheap.
2) They MUST get 1 or 2 legit bats for this lineup.
3) They have to seriously decide whether Wright has any future (immediate or longer term) at this point.
4) D'Arnaud either has to remain healthy or they must be willing to trade him.
Biggest question for me is who they get to replace Cespedes assuming he doesn't come back. Can't just assume Conforto is "really good" next year.
And the QO system is still in place, he's an easy choice to tag.
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1) Even with injuries, they have enough plus pitching to have one of the top 3 rotations in baseball. They MUST commit to locking up a few now, while they are still cheap.
2) They MUST get 1 or 2 legit bats for this lineup.
3) They have to seriously decide whether Wright has any future (immediate or longer term) at this point.
4) D'Arnaud either has to remain healthy or they must be willing to trade him.
Biggest question for me is who they get to replace Cespedes assuming he doesn't come back. Can't just assume Conforto is "really good" next year.
I think the Mets have to resign Cespedes or make a run at Upton. Looking at the free agent landscape next year those are the top OFs, and SA tried to trade for Upton before the trade deadline.
Sadly with Jay-Z as his agent I find it very, very hars to believe he's going to sign with the Mets before testing the market and if he hits the market he CAN'T return. Basically he would have to absolutely fall in love with the team AND walk away from a likely bigger deal despite being open about wanting to test the market. We can live for today, I still like the deal but it's why Gomez/Bruce made more "sense".
For 2016 we have four obvious potential 4 WAR bats (and Im focusing more on offense; Lagares gets most of his value from D) -- Duda, Wright, TDA, and Grandy. Two of those guys are massive injury risks, and a third is older and is having his first good season since 2011. Making matters worse, the only guy under control who seems like a halfway decent bet to really break into that group next season is Flores. No way am I projecting Conforto or Herrera to be in that range next season. So it seems to me that we need to add another 4 win bat this offseason, be it resigning YC or trading for someone. I dont see much of a chance that we sign away such a FA, especially since the positions of needs are the expensive ones -- SS, 2B, and CF.
Really Granderson's only off year was his 20 HR 2014 campaign with the Mets which tends to be a trend with FA who come here for some reason in the first season.
I think we'll make a competitive offer to Cespedes when the time comes but if he declines and wants to test FA? C'est la vi.