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Flowers Day-2-Day: Hip Flexor

giants#1 : 8/3/2015 2:50 pm
per the beat writers. Stretching on the side with trainers today.

For those that missed it in the "tweets" thread.
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mattlawson : 8/3/2015 2:51 pm : link
Surprised it took this long, TBH  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/3/2015 2:51 pm : link
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Fire the strength and conditioning crew!  
GiantSteps : 8/3/2015 2:54 pm : link
Just kidding

How bad are hip flexor tweaks?

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26.2 : 8/3/2015 2:55 pm : link
it'll end up being a sports hernia and he'll be out til October. just the way it is.
RE: Fire the strength and conditioning crew!  
giants#1 : 8/3/2015 2:59 pm : link
In comment 12400308 GiantSteps said:
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Just kidding

How bad are hip flexor tweaks?


I think most are minor, but isn't that what started DRC's injury issues last season?
on the other end of the spectrum  
giants#1 : 8/3/2015 3:02 pm : link
I think the Knicks pick Porzingis had a hip flexor injury (or soreness) right before summer league and only missed a few practices (precautionary).
FYI  
giants#1 : 8/3/2015 3:04 pm : link
Pugh playing 1st team LT with Adam Gettis stepping in at 1st team LG.

And on a brighter note, Schwartz is back practicing today.
Flaherty and TC  
BlueLou : 8/3/2015 3:05 pm : link
look younger in that gif.
shit, piss and corruption!  
Victor in CT : 8/3/2015 3:06 pm : link
when will this injury bug stop?
I failed to mention this  
YANKEE28 : 8/3/2015 3:07 pm : link
in my report from yesterday, but I saw it happen.

It was toward the end of the practice.

Flowers went gingerly to the sidelines (actually the back of the end zone where other players were) with a limp and removed his helmet.

Flowers was first approached by Schwartz (who was not in his upper or practicing, and was on the sidelines encouraging the rest of the O linemen). Schwartz and Flowers talked a moment or two, and Flowers was trying to walk it off. I don't recall Flowers participating in any more plays, but I believe he was part of the end of practice band stretching.

I thought it was minor at the time. Let's hope so.
can you imagine what is going through ...  
Hem Roid : 8/3/2015 3:07 pm : link
Eli's head ?
RE: can you imagine what is going through ...  
giants#1 : 8/3/2015 3:10 pm : link
In comment 12400336 Hem Roid said:
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Eli's head ?


Probably licking his chops. Banged up OL is tempting for a DC to blitz against. Beckham and a healthy Cruz are: 1) great at creating quick separation and 2) even better at busting short passes for long plays, especially with a "loose" secondary thanks to guys blitzing!
RE: can you imagine what is going through ...  
mattlawson : 8/3/2015 3:10 pm : link
In comment 12400336 Hem Roid said:
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Eli's head ?


a LB's fist?
1st team OLine with Flowers out:  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/3/2015 3:11 pm : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 26s27 seconds ago
Giants 1st team OL with Flowers not practicing:
LT Justin Pugh
LG Adam Getting
C Weston Richburg
RG Geoff Schwartz
RT Marshall Newhouse
Also  
YANKEE28 : 8/3/2015 3:11 pm : link
worth mentioning that Emmett Cleary (Boston College) got a significant amount of reps yesterday at Left Tackle. Expect to see more of him at today's practice.
RE: 1st team OLine with Flowers out:  
giants#1 : 8/3/2015 3:13 pm : link
In comment 12400345 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 26s27 seconds ago
Giants 1st team OL with Flowers not practicing:
LT Justin Pugh
LG Adam Getting
C Weston Richburg
RG Geoff Schwartz
RT Marshall Newhouse


And Jerry's been rotating with Schwartz today.
And JonC said we wouldn't see Pugh at OLT!!!  
BlueLou : 8/3/2015 3:14 pm : link
PFFFTTTT!!!!
You can't help but laugh  
ZogZerg : 8/3/2015 3:15 pm : link
Wait till the pads go on on Wednesday. Half the team will be out/limited on Thursday.
private pile went bye bye?  
mattlawson : 8/3/2015 3:18 pm : link
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eric herman/brandon mosley  
sundayatone : 8/3/2015 3:22 pm : link
need one of them really to step up
Not reallysurprising  
nygiants16 : 8/3/2015 3:23 pm : link
he has been working with 1s and 2s, bound to be sore or tweak something..a lot being thrown at him...

With day off tomorrow, would not be surprised if he is back Wednesday...
RE: RE: 1st team OLine with Flowers out:  
Victor in CT : 8/3/2015 3:33 pm : link
In comment 12400349 giants#1 said:
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In comment 12400345 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 26s27 seconds ago
Giants 1st team OL with Flowers not practicing:
LT Justin Pugh
LG Adam Getting
C Weston Richburg
RG Geoff Schwartz
RT Marshall Newhouse



And Jerry's been rotating with Schwartz today.


"HEEEEEEEEEELP!!" - Eli Manning
Phuck me cuz I quit smoking 4 or so months ago  
BlueLou : 8/3/2015 3:37 pm : link
and it's beginning to look like I'll start again this upcoming season...
the giants need jake long  
sundayatone : 8/3/2015 3:39 pm : link
more than jake long needs the giants
RE: Phuck me cuz I quit smoking 4 or so months ago  
giants#1 : 8/3/2015 3:39 pm : link
In comment 12400388 BlueLou said:
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and it's beginning to look like I'll start again this upcoming season...


Doesn't your wine help with both problems? Of course, then you're drinking all your profits...
RE: RE: Phuck me cuz I quit smoking 4 or so months ago  
BlueLou : 8/3/2015 3:41 pm : link
In comment 12400393 giants#1 said:
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In comment 12400388 BlueLou said:


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and it's beginning to look like I'll start again this upcoming season...



Doesn't your wine help with both problems? Of course, then you're drinking all your profits...


Call me old fashioned, but I prefer beer during games. Unless they are night games (my early AM) in which case it's coffee.
RE: the giants need jake long  
giants#1 : 8/3/2015 3:41 pm : link
In comment 12400391 sundayatone said:
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more than jake long needs the giants


Not saying he can't help, but his play was dropping before the latest injury. The last thing the Giants need is another injury riddled vet that can't play to his past level.
RE: RE: RE: Phuck me cuz I quit smoking 4 or so months ago  
giants#1 : 8/3/2015 3:42 pm : link
In comment 12400396 BlueLou said:
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Call me old fashioned, but I prefer beer during games. Unless they are night games (my early AM) in which case it's coffee.


I'm the same, but if I don't have beer on hand, I'm not turning down wine (especially watching last years OL!)
RE: RE: the giants need jake long  
sundayatone : 8/3/2015 3:46 pm : link
In comment 12400397 giants#1 said:
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In comment 12400391 sundayatone said:


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more than jake long needs the giants



Not saying he can't help, but his play was dropping before the latest injury. The last thing the Giants need is another injury riddled vet that can't play to his past level.


gettis/newhouse/jerry/mosley/herman we need to catch lighting in a bottle with a guy like long cause what we have now is not going to cut it.
At this point, they might try to resuscitate Gabe Carimi and stick him  
BlueLou : 8/3/2015 3:48 pm : link
at ORT next to Geoff Schwartz, and then switch Newhouse out to OLT.

At least this way they could give one side of the OL a great nickname: "The Western Wall!"
at this point though  
giants#1 : 8/3/2015 3:49 pm : link
it's probably a long shot (no pun intended) that Long is any better than vets like Jerry/Newhouse and at least the latter 2 don't come with injury concerns.

They do need to hope that the light finally clicks for a guy like Mosley or one of the other long shots (Bamiro, Hart, Jones, etc) surprises.
RE: at this point though  
sundayatone : 8/3/2015 3:51 pm : link
In comment 12400411 giants#1 said:
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it's probably a long shot (no pun intended) that Long is any better than vets like Jerry/Newhouse and at least the latter 2 don't come with injury concerns.

They do need to hope that the light finally clicks for a guy like Mosley or one of the other long shots (Bamiro, Hart, Jones, etc) surprises.


if not,then what?
probably going to have to make do ...  
Hem Roid : 8/3/2015 3:53 pm : link
with what we have, until deeper in camp till bodies begin to fall off opposing rosters ...

as the vicious cycle continues ...
RE: RE: can you imagine what is going through ...  
I Love Clams Casino : 8/3/2015 3:54 pm : link
In comment 12400341 giants#1 said:
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In comment 12400336 Hem Roid said:


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Eli's head ?



Probably licking his chops. Banged up OL is tempting for a DC to blitz against. Beckham and a healthy Cruz are: 1) great at creating quick separation and 2) even better at busting short passes for long plays, especially with a
"loose" secondary thanks to guys blitzing!


That's a hell of a way to look at it...
RE: RE: at this point though  
giants#1 : 8/3/2015 3:55 pm : link
In comment 12400417 sundayatone said:
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In comment 12400411 giants#1 said:


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it's probably a long shot (no pun intended) that Long is any better than vets like Jerry/Newhouse and at least the latter 2 don't come with injury concerns.

They do need to hope that the light finally clicks for a guy like Mosley or one of the other long shots (Bamiro, Hart, Jones, etc) surprises.



if not,then what?


Hope that Newhouse/Mosley can be adequate until Beatty is ready to return (hopefully in Oct). If the other 4 can stay healthy, there's plenty they can do to help compensate for 1 weak link (chipping with backs/TEs, short passes, etc). That said, I still think EF-Pugh-Richburg-Schwartz-Newhouse/Mosley has the potential to be better than the OL last season. Not that that's saying much, but I think Richburg and Schwartz are huge upgrades over the starters at C-RG last year...
Let's hope he gets back soon......  
Simms11 : 8/3/2015 3:59 pm : link
this line can't take any more injuries. The depth was abysmal to begin with!!!!
BlueLou: Wailing Wall might be a better fit.  
Big Blue Blogger : 8/3/2015 4:00 pm : link
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At this point, they might try to resuscitate Gabe Carimi and stick him at ORT next to Geoff Schwartz, and then switch Newhouse out to OLT. At least this way they could give one side of the OL a great nickname: "The Western Wall!"

Then we can spend the next two thousand years lamenting the destruction of our Holy of Holies (Eli).
RE: RE: RE: at this point though  
sundayatone : 8/3/2015 4:00 pm : link
In comment 12400430 giants#1 said:
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In comment 12400417 sundayatone said:


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In comment 12400411 giants#1 said:





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it's probably a long shot (no pun intended) that Long is any better than vets like Jerry/Newhouse and at least the latter 2 don't come with injury concerns.

They do need to hope that the light finally clicks for a guy like Mosley or one of the other long shots (Bamiro, Hart, Jones, etc) surprises.



if not,then what?



Hope that Newhouse/Mosley can be adequate until Beatty is ready to return (hopefully in Oct). If the other 4 can stay healthy, there's plenty they can do to help compensate for 1 weak link (chipping with backs/TEs, short passes, etc). That said, I still think EF-Pugh-Richburg-Schwartz-Newhouse/Mosley has the potential to be better than the OL last season. Not that that's saying much, but I think Richburg and Schwartz are huge upgrades over the starters at C-RG last year...


i am not counting on schwartz and his brittle body,everything else is just wishing and hoping.
RE: RE: RE: RE: at this point though  
giants#1 : 8/3/2015 4:05 pm : link
In comment 12400456 sundayatone said:
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i am not counting on schwartz and his brittle body,everything else is just wishing and hoping.


But you want to sign Long???
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: at this point though  
sundayatone : 8/3/2015 4:11 pm : link
In comment 12400469 giants#1 said:
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i am not counting on schwartz and his brittle body,everything else is just wishing and hoping.


just for the lighting in a bottle,it feels like groundhog day with this off line depth chart,amazing the giants are still just throwing stuff and hoping it sticks,again.



But you want to sign Long???


just to catch the lighting in a bottle.feels like groundhog day with this off line depth chart,amazing the giants can not figure out how to fix this yearly problem.
RE: RE: RE: 1st team OLine with Flowers out:  
SGMen : 8/3/2015 4:15 pm : link
In comment 12400386 Victor in CT said:
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In comment 12400345 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 26s27 seconds ago
Giants 1st team OL with Flowers not practicing:
LT Justin Pugh
LG Adam Getting
C Weston Richburg
RG Geoff Schwartz
RT Marshall Newhouse



And Jerry's been rotating with Schwartz today.



"HEEEEEEEEEELP!!" - Eli Manning
Adam Getting? I would have figured Mosley or Jerry at OG? Interesting. Well, lets hope Flowers gets some work in by tomorrow. We really need him to be a rookie wonder.
Sounds like a strain and not a pull..  
Big Blue '56 : 8/3/2015 4:17 pm : link
With proper treatment and stretching, he should be good to go sooner rather than later imo
RE: Sounds like a strain and not a pull..  
Moondawg : 8/3/2015 4:27 pm : link
In comment 12400493 Big Blue '56 said:
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With proper treatment and stretching, he should be good to go sooner rather than later imo


Fiddy, out of curiosity, what's your medical specialty?
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Hem Roid : 8/3/2015 4:31 pm : link
Hey, Gettis was stuck behind some great talent in Wash-  
Big Blue Blogger : 8/3/2015 4:32 pm : link
...Uh, never mind.

Gettis has some skills, but by NFL standards, he's really small.
If we sign Long,  
732NYG : 8/3/2015 5:16 pm : link
we only really need him to hold up until Beatty gets back. I wouldn't expect him to be able to make it through the whole season, but even with his health the way it is currently, I would have to think he's better than what we've got.
Fingers crossed  
Fort Mill Mike : 8/3/2015 5:22 pm : link
From Raanan:

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Flowers is believed to have a minor hip flexor problem.

"He doesn't seem to be bad," Coughlin said. "This morning he was sore and by the time I caught him in the meeting room he was [turning his hips]. Hopefully it's just a short amount of time [he's sidelined]."
RE: Phuck me cuz I quit smoking 4 or so months ago  
sphinx : 8/3/2015 5:53 pm : link
In comment 12400388 BlueLou said:
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and it's beginning to look like I'll start again this upcoming season...

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RE: At this point, they might try to resuscitate Gabe Carimi and stick him  
Jay in Toronto : 8/3/2015 5:54 pm : link
In comment 12400409 BlueLou said:
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at ORT next to Geoff Schwartz, and then switch Newhouse out to OLT.

At least this way they could give one side of the OL a great nickname: "The Western Wall!"


I hope not the Wailing Wall!
Even if he is okay,  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/3/2015 5:55 pm : link
you have to admit this is pretty incredible at this point with these injuries.
Sorry BBB  
Jay in Toronto : 8/3/2015 5:55 pm : link
Great minds think alike ;)
The Giants always lie about injuries........  
Dry Lightning : 8/3/2015 6:12 pm : link
This could mean anything from something that will bother him all season to Bo Jackson career ender.
You  
area junc : 8/3/2015 7:03 pm : link
cant make this shit up

That said, maybe we shouldnt be pounding him into the ground.
hip flexor is not something that heals  
ColHowPepper : 8/3/2015 7:30 pm : link
fast, minimal amount of blood flow, esp. in a large, large man like EF. Let's hope it's minor--and don't rush him back. As someone said, playing him with the 1s and 2s, even at 19 years old, body parts get stressed and fatigued
Hip Flexors are graded by degree of severity  
bigfish703 : 8/3/2015 9:25 pm : link
A grade 1 will take 2-7 days to heal, Grade 2 1 -2 weeks, & oy vey, don't ask! Grade 3 (complete tear) from 3 -6 months.

The muscles involved are primarily two of the deeper ones that attach the femur to the vertebral column and enable the player to "flex," or pull in line his upper leg with his body.

Let us hope that either Flower's injury is Grade 1 or that Jake Long is available and willing. In one sense, this injury, no matter how slight, is a good wake-up call about how mediocre most of the subs on the Giants' OL are. IMO they need at least one more competent player at OT.
Hip Flexors are graded by degree of severity  
bigfish703 : 8/3/2015 9:27 pm : link
A grade 1 will take 2-7 days to heal, Grade 2 1 -2 weeks, & oy vey, don't ask! Grade 3 (complete tear) from 3 -6 months.

The muscles involved are primarily two of the deeper ones that attach the femur to the vertebral column and enable the player to "flex," or pull in line his upper leg with his body.

Let us hope that either Flower's injury is Grade 1 or that Jake Long is available and willing. In one sense, this injury, no matter how slight, is a good wake-up call about how mediocre most of the subs on the Giants' OL are. IMO they need at least one more competent player at OT.
Sorry about the redundancy  
bigfish703 : 8/3/2015 9:29 pm : link
but I was informed that the first one did not go through.
Even if Flowers is 100% fine  
BlueHurricane : 8/3/2015 9:30 pm : link
We should be signing Mathis. We need more NFL caliber lineman.
So a guy plays an entire college season  
blueblood : 8/3/2015 10:54 pm : link
and then trains to get ready for the combine.. and then trains after that to stay ready for pro days.. and then gets drafted and comes to mini camp... and then keeps training after that.. and THEN they have to get better and stronger..

Where is the rest period ?? NFL players normally take a few weeks to rest their bodies.. rookies dont get that down time..

Its like people a shocked when rookies get a little nicked.. they havent really had a lot of time to rest their bodies.. never surprises me when a rookie has a little injury in training camp
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