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sshin05 : 8/3/2015 3:44 pm
Mets

@cgrand3 RF
Murphy 3B
@ynscspds CF
Duda 1B
Flores SS
Johnson 2B
@TdArnaud C
@mconforto8 LF
Colon P
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Love it.  
ZGiants98 : 8/3/2015 3:49 pm : link
Power lineup tonight! Flores at SS. Conforto-Cespedes-Granderson OF. LGM!!
Best offensive  
Metnut : 8/3/2015 3:50 pm : link
lineup of the season. Maybe our worst defensive one though (Flores for Tejada and no Lagares in CF). I think the increased fire power is worth it though. Just hoping that our OF can hang in there.
5 lefties  
sshin05 : 8/3/2015 3:51 pm : link
the new guys give TC much more depth and options. So because of Colon's recent struggles, the highest offensive output (in theory) lineup.
Man swap  
ZGiants98 : 8/3/2015 3:52 pm : link
Johnson out for Wright and that lineup is stacked.
also  
sshin05 : 8/3/2015 3:53 pm : link
the mets may be in last in runs scored but the next two teams are the marlins and rays. Mets should feast on these guys with the new players.
RE: 5 lefties  
ZGiants98 : 8/3/2015 3:54 pm : link
In comment 12400419 sshin05 said:
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the new guys give TC much more depth and options. So because of Colon's recent struggles, the highest offensive output (in theory) lineup.


Yup. And against lefties.... Uribe kills them. Cuddyer has historically killed them. If Wright comes back, he kills them. Lagares is actually decent against lefties.
wheeler with team  
sshin05 : 8/3/2015 3:55 pm : link
Anthony DiComo
Also: Zack Wheeler in the house. He drove down from Port St. Lucie to visit his #Mets teammates (still his Mets teammates) in Miami.
Is  
NJGiantFan84 : 8/3/2015 3:55 pm : link
Uribe disappointed with his role so far? Lots of days off. Was he playing as a regular in Atlanta?

By all reports he is a great guy and has made a great clubhouse that much better. So i am not expecting any negative impact, but I am just curious.
Just don't lay an egg tonight, boys  
speedywheels : 8/3/2015 3:56 pm : link
Keep the foot on the gas! Hopefully Colon can give 5 or 6 good innings tonight...
more tweets  
sshin05 : 8/3/2015 3:56 pm : link
John Harper @NYDNHarper
Zimmerman in W Post on Duda pulling FB on hands for HR: "I'm not really sure how it's physically possible to hit that ball, where I put it."
RE: wheeler with team  
ZGiants98 : 8/3/2015 3:57 pm : link
In comment 12400432 sshin05 said:
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Anthony DiComo
Also: Zack Wheeler in the house. He drove down from Port St. Lucie to visit his #Mets teammates (still his Mets teammates) in Miami.


Yet to see a good picture of Harvey, deGrom, Matz, Syndergaard, and Wheeler. Maybe they'll all be chilling tonight. lol
Gilmartin  
sshin05 : 8/3/2015 3:58 pm : link
Jeffrey Paternostro @jeffpaternostro
I know they have made it this far with him, but Gilmartin has pitched four times in a month.
RE: Is  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/3/2015 3:58 pm : link
In comment 12400433 NJGiantFan84 said:
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Uribe disappointed with his role so far? Lots of days off. Was he playing as a regular in Atlanta?

By all reports he is a great guy and has made a great clubhouse that much better. So i am not expecting any negative impact, but I am just curious.


Nah. He hasn't seen a full season of plate appearances since 2010. He's bee a part-timer for a while. That's what he is.
RE: Just don't lay an egg tonight, boys  
ZGiants98 : 8/3/2015 3:58 pm : link
In comment 12400434 speedywheels said:
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Keep the foot on the gas! Hopefully Colon can give 5 or 6 good innings tonight...


Ill take 3 run ball from Colon tonight. If he cant even do that, against this team, forget it. He needs to go.
RE: Gilmartin  
ZGiants98 : 8/3/2015 3:59 pm : link
In comment 12400442 sshin05 said:
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Jeffrey Paternostro @jeffpaternostro
I know they have made it this far with him, but Gilmartin has pitched four times in a month.


Thats what happens when your starters are going 7/8 innings almost every night and you have an all-star break in between.
RE: RE: Is  
NJGiantFan84 : 8/3/2015 4:01 pm : link
In comment 12400444 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 12400433 NJGiantFan84 said:


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Uribe disappointed with his role so far? Lots of days off. Was he playing as a regular in Atlanta?

By all reports he is a great guy and has made a great clubhouse that much better. So i am not expecting any negative impact, but I am just curious.



Nah. He hasn't seen a full season of plate appearances since 2010. He's bee a part-timer for a while. That's what he is.


Thanks.
RE: RE: Gilmartin  
Mike in NY : 8/3/2015 4:02 pm : link
In comment 12400453 ZGiants98 said:
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In comment 12400442 sshin05 said:


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Jeffrey Paternostro @jeffpaternostro
I know they have made it this far with him, but Gilmartin has pitched four times in a month.



Thats what happens when your starters are going 7/8 innings almost every night and you have an all-star break in between.


Not to mention at least 2 of the outings were extended appearances. He has been more of a long man lately than a LOOGY
Matz  
Metnut : 8/3/2015 4:08 pm : link
resumed throwing today (per Rubin).
RE: Matz  
ZGiants98 : 8/3/2015 4:12 pm : link
In comment 12400475 Metnut said:
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resumed throwing today (per Rubin).


Fantastic news. The universe is aligning! Lol
RE: RE: Matz  
Metnut : 8/3/2015 4:15 pm : link
In comment 12400485 ZGiants98 said:
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Fantastic news. The universe is aligning! Lol


Gotta say, it's been the wildest and probably best week to be a Mets fan since Citi Field opened.

Citi Field definitely had a Nassau Coliseum Islander vibe to it this weekend. Long suffering fanbase finally seeing a competitive team and excited as fuck about it.
They  
DanMetroMan : 8/3/2015 4:21 pm : link
need another reliever. Sandy acknowledged they tried to acquire one at the deadline but you can't have Alex Torres, Gilmartin and Torres as 3 of your arms and clearly not trust the first 2. Gee for a reliever would make a ton of sense.
Conforto needs to get some hits with this second chance  
steve in ky : 8/3/2015 4:24 pm : link
Too many 0-for's for him so far
Is there any  
Metnut : 8/3/2015 4:25 pm : link
hope with Black? He looked so nasty last year. Is his velocity ok and he's just walking a ton of guys? Maybe send him to AA so he can work on getting his stuff right and not have to worry about the crazy PCL.
Maybe a reliever will pas through waivers that they can trade for  
steve in ky : 8/3/2015 4:27 pm : link
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RE: Is there any  
DanMetroMan : 8/3/2015 4:28 pm : link
In comment 12400510 Metnut said:
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hope with Black? He looked so nasty last year. Is his velocity ok and he's just walking a ton of guys? Maybe send him to AA so he can work on getting his stuff right and not have to worry about the crazy PCL.


I think he's done. Not throwing strikes, velocity fluctuating from each appearance. How can the Mets throw a guy out there who struggles to throw strikes who one appearance will throw 96 and the next top off at 90? They already have Parnell in that boat.
Black  
DanMetroMan : 8/3/2015 4:29 pm : link
15.1 innings 18 hits 12 walks 14 k's 8.04 era
Blevins  
Metnut : 8/3/2015 4:29 pm : link
bone finally healed and he's been cleared. He could be a nice late August/September addition.
Maybe  
DanMetroMan : 8/3/2015 4:33 pm : link
Stauffer figures out what happened this year. He was solid last year. It's easy to blame the PCL for Black but the 51's have 16 pitchers who have thrown at least 20 innings with a better FIP than Black. I mean Matt Bowman has mostly stunk this year yet his FIP is 5.08, Black 6.62. Don't see any reason Black should be at 6.62 with Gee at 3.64 and reasonably blame the PCL.
RE: Blevins  
DanMetroMan : 8/3/2015 4:34 pm : link
In comment 12400519 Metnut said:
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bone finally healed and he's been cleared. He could be a nice late August/September addition.


He certainly should but he was cleared before Sandy said he was still looking at a reliever at the deadline so he's likely being viewed as a bonus (around 9/1). Still think they need to add another.
RE: RE: Matz  
speedywheels : 8/3/2015 4:36 pm : link
In comment 12400485 ZGiants98 said:
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resumed throwing today (per Rubin).



Fantastic news. The universe is aligning! Lol


Let's hope he doesn't experience any significant soreness after the session...
RE: Is there any  
Rflairr : 8/3/2015 4:47 pm : link
In comment 12400510 Metnut said:
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hope with Black? He looked so nasty last year. Is his velocity ok and he's just walking a ton of guys? Maybe send him to AA so he can work on getting his stuff right and not have to worry about the crazy PCL.


NONE
with the additions  
sshin05 : 8/3/2015 4:47 pm : link
of uribe and johnson, it gives the bench a much deeper bench. Once cuddy is back as well you can get him, Lagares, Flores, or Uribe as righties off the bench, on other days Johnson, conforto, and murphy/granderson as lefties.
They don't trust Gilmartin?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/3/2015 5:15 pm : link
Seems like he's been on the start of a nice little roll lately.
RE: They don't trust Gilmartin?  
DanMetroMan : 8/3/2015 5:20 pm : link
In comment 12400564 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Seems like he's been on the start of a nice little roll lately.


They barely use him and never use him in big spots. I'm not knocking him but his usage suggests otherwise. He's appeared in 16 games since the end of May totaling 16 total innings, for comparisons sake Carlos Torres (who was AWFUL in June has appeared in 18 games throwing 20.2 innings) and Alex Torres (who is awful in general) has appeared in 17 games throwing 15 innings. Not sure why they don't use Gilmartin more but they don't. If you recall I was all about taking Gilmartin before the draft, I'm not knocking him. I'm perplexed by his usage.
Alex  
DanMetroMan : 8/3/2015 5:23 pm : link
Torres 5.67 FIP yet... 39 games pitched 34.1 innings, Gilmartin 2.83 FIP 34 games pitched 31.2 innings. One has been truly HORRENDOUS and the other very good.
I'd have  
ZGiants98 : 8/3/2015 5:38 pm : link
Gilmartin ahead of the Torres as far as hierchy as far as what we''Ve witnessed. Parnell has had two terrible outings now and it's clear even Collins is getting apprehensive. I'd have it Familia, Clippard, Robles, Gilmartin, Parnell, C, A as far as pecking order. It's not surprising many relievers haven't gotten into too many games lately with as good as the starters have been. I think Sandy brings in a reliever like Benoit and between Blevins, Verrett, and Goedell we will be in excellent shape.
I think  
DanMetroMan : 8/3/2015 5:49 pm : link
Benoit is too expensive for next year but I hope they add someone
they should  
spike : 8/3/2015 5:50 pm : link
put Torres in the doghouse and reserve him for blow outs
If Matz resumed throwing  
Headhunter : 8/3/2015 5:50 pm : link
why will he not be back till September?
I think we can certainly use another reliever especially after the  
Four Aces : 8/3/2015 6:02 pm : link
Mejia suspension. Why hasn't Verrett gotten more of an opportunity here? I like what I've seen so far although a small sample size.
What's TC's thought process  
sphinx : 8/3/2015 6:12 pm : link
when he switches the pitchers in the batting between 8 and 9?

Seriously?  
sphinx : 8/3/2015 6:27 pm : link
Mike Vorkunov 6 seconds ago
TC on Mets lineup: "We rode defense for 2.5 months & we kept getting beat 1-0 so I don’t think that’s going to be a factor at the moment"

I got no problem with our lineup tonight.  
arcarsenal : 8/3/2015 6:32 pm : link
This is the one I've wanted to see since we acquired Cespedes. It has the highest offensive potential.
RE: Seriously?  
steve in ky : 8/3/2015 6:47 pm : link
In comment 12400619 sphinx said:
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Mike Vorkunov 6 seconds ago
TC on Mets lineup: "We rode defense for 2.5 months & we kept getting beat 1-0 so I don’t think that’s going to be a factor at the moment"


What a dumb comment
I wonder whether there is research  
Deej : 8/3/2015 7:08 pm : link
on whether defense becomes less important the better your pitchers are (especially flyball high K pitchers). Intuitively I'd strongly suspect that if you add a bunch of Ks then defending against balls in play becomes less important.
Miami love for Wilmer  
Deej : 8/3/2015 7:17 pm : link
guy is a folk hero
LOLIchiro  
arcarsenal : 8/3/2015 7:31 pm : link
Gotta plate some runs here
CONFORTO!!!  
arcarsenal : 8/3/2015 7:33 pm : link
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Hammer of Conforto  
Deej : 8/3/2015 7:33 pm : link
kid fucking LAUNCHED it. 3-0!!!!!!
That was fucking bomb  
arcarsenal : 8/3/2015 7:33 pm : link
No doubter
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