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Giants are having to adapt to teaching Millennials

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/4/2015 3:59 pm
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And even during the times they are supposed to be working they each have a palm-sized device that lets the outside world flood into the team's facility: a smartphone.

Coughlin has said in the past that he and his coaching staff have studied Millennials and how they process information. They are trying to adapt to the way young players think and learn. That goes for everything from having playbooks on iPads to playing music during warmups which engages a desire for them to multitask (stretch and listen at the same time).

Tom Coughlin to Giants: 'Be where your feet are' - ( New Window )
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This is dumb,  
giantgiantfan : 8/4/2015 5:02 pm : link
but maybe I'm not your average millennial, especially being older than most millennials. I have no problem reading, studying, and paying attention just like people have done for thousands of years...
"Ok you fucking vaginas, get ur asses over here"  
Sec 103 : 8/4/2015 5:11 pm : link
Start of EVERY practice
Coach Walsh, Catholic HS...
And that was basketball...
Enuff said.
Quote from TC to team  
Deej : 8/4/2015 5:13 pm : link
"Now before I hit send, do I put a hash tag on 'dickpic'?"
Coach Dag's PRHS  
GiantsUA : 8/4/2015 5:18 pm : link
WW2 Marine -
"You guys are Stupid!" "Stop playing grab ass"
A tough, tough man.
Don't you go getting soft on me this summer...  
Britt in VA : 8/4/2015 5:21 pm : link
You're sitting by the pool, chasing the muff around... BREAKDOWN!

Link - ( New Window )
RE: We ran  
Blackbeard : 8/4/2015 5:29 pm : link
In comment 12401904 Joey in VA said:
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Until we puked, then we got yelled at for puking on the field, then we moved fields and got yelled at for messing up two fields. When we left practice well felt like whipped dogs but damn if we wouldn't run through a brick wall for our coach.

Attention is so splintered now though, I can't imagine all the input flying at teenagers and 20 somethings and trying to make sense of your life, your hormones, your dreams, girls, your profession with all of that shit to keep up with. We had it rougher physically and probably mentally from an ego standpoint (we got beaten down to nothing and built back up) but from a stress standpoint, kids these days are just overloaded. I would NOT want to be a kid in this age, it seems overbearing and awful.



I seem to remember being a teenager-20's in the Thirties and Forties (WW II in there, too) and having hormones, dreams, girls, etc., etc. When do you think all those things were invented? In the 21st century?
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Britt in VA : 8/4/2015 5:36 pm : link
In comment 12401970 Blackbeard said:
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In comment 12401904 Joey in VA said:


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Until we puked, then we got yelled at for puking on the field, then we moved fields and got yelled at for messing up two fields. When we left practice well felt like whipped dogs but damn if we wouldn't run through a brick wall for our coach.

Attention is so splintered now though, I can't imagine all the input flying at teenagers and 20 somethings and trying to make sense of your life, your hormones, your dreams, girls, your profession with all of that shit to keep up with. We had it rougher physically and probably mentally from an ego standpoint (we got beaten down to nothing and built back up) but from a stress standpoint, kids these days are just overloaded. I would NOT want to be a kid in this age, it seems overbearing and awful.




I seem to remember being a teenager-20's in the Thirties and Forties (WW II in there, too) and having hormones, dreams, girls, etc., etc. When do you think all those things were invented? In the 21st century?


To write off the course changing impact on mankind that the internet, and everything comes with it, has had on the generation of children that are being raised on it is naive.

Yeah, you dreamed about girls in the 20's, 30's, and 40's, but did you have the ability to pull out a tiny movie screen out of your pocket and see them get plowed by three dudes the moment the impulse struck you?
Even in the 80's I had to wait until I could sneak one of the...  
Britt in VA : 8/4/2015 5:37 pm : link
old man's Playboys, or scrambled cable at 2 in the morning hoping to see an unscrambled nipple for a split second.
Joey  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/4/2015 5:41 pm : link
I think you are right. I think it's tougher to be a kid now. Too many distractions.
RE: Sad,  
Moondawg : 8/4/2015 5:41 pm : link
In comment 12401908 CT Charlie said:
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but true. Try being a high school teacher in the age of The-Kid-Is-Always-Right. And we wonder why other countries out-perform us in tests and work ethic.

I've never been eager to retire, but the parent/administration/entitled-kid axis is profoundly discouraging. B is the new F, and all that…


Respect. I would not want to be a HS teacher now.
RE: Even in the 80's I had to wait until I could sneak one of the...  
Moondawg : 8/4/2015 5:42 pm : link
In comment 12401984 Britt in VA said:
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old man's Playboys, or scrambled cable at 2 in the morning hoping to see an unscrambled nipple for a split second.


Completely on board with these thoughts, Brett. The collapse of the distance between urge and stimuli is not a net positive at all.
RE: RE: Even in the 80's I had to wait until I could sneak one of the...  
Moondawg : 8/4/2015 5:42 pm : link
In comment 12401995 Moondawg said:
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In comment 12401984 Britt in VA said:


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old man's Playboys, or scrambled cable at 2 in the morning hoping to see an unscrambled nipple for a split second.



Completely on board with these thoughts, Brett. The collapse of the distance between urge and stimuli is not a net positive at all.


Britt, not Brett.
haha  
Sneakers O'toole : 8/4/2015 5:43 pm : link
scrambled boobs, I remember watching scrambled cable looking for boobs
Britt  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/4/2015 5:44 pm : link
Imagine being 16 and having access to internet porn? Holy hell.
Yeah, and that's actually some of the lighter fare that's available...  
Britt in VA : 8/4/2015 5:53 pm : link
to them via the internet.
I know different age and times, but damn they're becoming too soft  
micky : 8/4/2015 5:59 pm : link
with younger generation nowadays. It just pulls away from concept of discipline and etc imo.
RE: Britt  
JOrthman : 8/4/2015 6:01 pm : link
In comment 12402001 Eric from BBI said:
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Imagine being 16 and having access to internet porn? Holy hell.


I would of never left the house...
I had to laugh out load  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/4/2015 6:03 pm : link
about your post about scrambled cable...ha, ha. Different time.

Ah scrambled porn  
Joey in VA : 8/4/2015 6:04 pm : link
That was the shit. At 16 you could pull it to Good Housekeeping though, if I had porn then my head would have blown off.
I was lucky  
JOrthman : 8/4/2015 6:06 pm : link
We had cinemax for my later teenage years.
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Joey in VA : 8/4/2015 6:08 pm : link
In comment 12401970 Blackbeard said:
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Until we puked, then we got yelled at for puking on the field, then we moved fields and got yelled at for messing up two fields. When we left practice well felt like whipped dogs but damn if we wouldn't run through a brick wall for our coach.

Attention is so splintered now though, I can't imagine all the input flying at teenagers and 20 somethings and trying to make sense of your life, your hormones, your dreams, girls, your profession with all of that shit to keep up with. We had it rougher physically and probably mentally from an ego standpoint (we got beaten down to nothing and built back up) but from a stress standpoint, kids these days are just overloaded. I would NOT want to be a kid in this age, it seems overbearing and awful.




I seem to remember being a teenager-20's in the Thirties and Forties (WW II in there, too) and having hormones, dreams, girls, etc., etc. When do you think all those things were invented? In the 21st century?

No, don't be a scallywag, that's not my point. My point is contending with those has ALWAYS been an issue, but now on top of the usual kid things, you lose your privacy, you get bombarded digitally with facebook, twitter, instagram, snapchat and whatever else is out there. You have to keep up in class and between class and not miss a beat. If you didn't see the latest monkey falling out of a tree video and everyone's laughing you're out of the loop and as a teenager nothing is more alienating.

My point is that kids now get no breaks, none, there is no sanctuary from ridicule, prying eyes, judgement, evaluation and information. Even school is tougher, there is no more hunkering down in class or on the field as there used to be because SOMEONE can be watching, recording, observing at all times. It's overwhelming for adults, imagine being a scared teenager trying to make sense of the stuff we always had plus all this shit.
RE: I was lucky  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/4/2015 6:10 pm : link
In comment 12402025 JOrthman said:
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We had cinemax for my later teenage years.


I still remember watching certain movies not because they were any good, but because they had one "good" nude scene in them. Sad fuck that I am. ha
RE: I had to laugh out load  
Joey in VA : 8/4/2015 6:11 pm : link
In comment 12402023 Eric from BBI said:
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about your post about scrambled cable...ha, ha. Different time.
that may be the #1 Freudian slip on BBI of all time
Joey  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/4/2015 6:12 pm : link
whoops...
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Deej : 8/4/2015 6:13 pm : link
In comment 12402031 Eric from BBI said:
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We had cinemax for my later teenage years.



I still remember watching certain movies not because they were any good, but because they had one "good" nude scene in them. Sad fuck that I am. ha


+1. Actually, +everyone.
Eric  
Lionhart28 : 8/4/2015 6:15 pm : link
Carpal tunnel is going to skyrocket.

I even notice myself (I'm 30), I can barely sit and watch tv without being on my phone half the time. I don't however do it in social situations while interacting with others. My attention span has definitely gotten worse though.
There was a way with the old cable box that we had (comcast)  
micky : 8/4/2015 6:16 pm : link
that you could hold down two buttons and get porn.
RE: Even in the 80's I had to wait until I could sneak one of the...  
bradshaw44 : 8/4/2015 6:17 pm : link
In comment 12401984 Britt in VA said:
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old man's Playboys, or scrambled cable at 2 in the morning hoping to see an unscrambled nipple for a split second.


The truck was to turn to another channel and flip it back really quickly. You would get a full second of nudity. Heaven
this was the one haha  
micky : 8/4/2015 6:18 pm : link
I'm joking about the porn, of course...  
Britt in VA : 8/4/2015 6:58 pm : link
but in my experience in teaching, the technology has been more of a detriment/hindurance than anything else.

Add in a bunch of horseshit political policy not allowing students to fail, and teaching to a test and...

Well, here we are.
O. K. Fellas.  
Blackbeard : 8/4/2015 7:41 pm : link
Points taken.
I'm very glad  
hudson : 8/4/2015 8:03 pm : link
Texting, Twitter, facebook, video phones were NOT around in my era.
I was on vacation recently and just thought of how 15 years ago, you went away, and you were gone, disconnected....now....there is no escape from the daily events.
RE: I'm joking about the porn, of course...  
JOrthman : 8/4/2015 8:31 pm : link
In comment 12402083 Britt in VA said:
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but in my experience in teaching, the technology has been more of a detriment/hindurance than anything else.

Add in a bunch of horseshit political policy not allowing students to fail, and teaching to a test and...

Well, here we are.


Yeah ok joking....
micky  
LTPS5611 : 8/4/2015 9:17 pm : link
That made me crack up. I remember sneaking into my parents room when they went out and putting on channel 36, the play boy channel. Oh electric blue, you were still great even when you moved to channel 41. Fucking sister ratted me out one time. When my parents asked me about it, I just kept saying I was watching the Disney channel.
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Gmen703 : 8/4/2015 10:38 pm : link
In comment 12402041 micky said:
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that you could hold down two buttons and get porn.


I remember on the old wood grain Cox cable boxes that I was able to descramble porn for a split second. Then my cousin showed me how to press two buttons repeatedly on the remote to prolong the descramble. Thus, the downfall of my video game career... Damn thumbs.
RE: Even in the 80's I had to wait until I could sneak one of the...  
Reb8thVA : 8/4/2015 10:56 pm : link
In comment 12401984 Britt in VA said:
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old man's Playboys, or scrambled cable at 2 in the morning hoping to see an unscrambled nipple for a split second.


You forgot about National Geographic which was always good for a nipple shot or two.
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Mike in Long Beach : 8/4/2015 11:17 pm : link
In comment 12402033 Joey in VA said:
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about your post about scrambled cable...ha, ha. Different time.


that may be the #1 Freudian slip on BBI of all time


Hahaha!
RE: Britt  
Sonic Youth : 8/4/2015 11:20 pm : link
In comment 12402001 Eric from BBI said:
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Imagine being 16 and having access to internet porn? Holy hell.

it was a great time.

even then. I had comparatively shitty quality (26 now). The kids now have it TRULY made, but I consider my age group the first frontier (maybe second)
RE: Joey  
SGMen : 8/4/2015 11:29 pm : link
In comment 12401992 Eric from BBI said:
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I think you are right. I think it's tougher to be a kid now. Too many distractions.
If you want to be a high performer in anything, you MUST have presence. Presence is much harder to attain when you have distractions. That is why I do not watch television - distraction. That is why I do most of my work in the early morning - no or less distractions of the day.

Due to business, I am on my smartphone a lot, yes. But I don't use my smartphone to "play" with folks or share ridiculous photos and the like.

Focus. Presence.
SG Men  
JOrthman : 8/5/2015 12:13 am : link
I swear I can here Mr. Miyagi speaking parts of your last post...
Some of this is BS  
jpennyva : 8/5/2015 7:29 am : link
The constant use of media is a choice, not a necessity. Yes, I get that "everyone is doing it" so there is more pressure to do it. But not everyone is doing it all the time. My teenage nephews still spend a ton of time OUTSIDE and are detached from media for a significant amount of time, as are many of their friends and I believe they are more focused because of this. Parents have the ability to limit this exposure - some do, some don't. But keep in mind this is all a choice. I will sometimes turn off my phone/computer/TV and it's great. Others can do so as well.

I think a compromise on the coaching front is possible. While the coaching staff can be open to doing things a little differently that may help the entire team (music could be very motivating), I don't think they need to bend completely in accommodating the millennials. The next generation needs to be open to doing things a little differently as well (and open to hard work, too) if they want to be successful.
music and stretching  
fkap : 8/5/2015 8:30 am : link
is multitasking?

It's stretching. Not studying for the finals of your rocket surgery exam.

I'm 55, and music has always been a part of exercise. the Walkman, anyone?
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ron mexico : 8/5/2015 8:42 am : link
In comment 12402476 SGMen said:
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In comment 12401992 Eric from BBI said:


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I think you are right. I think it's tougher to be a kid now. Too many distractions.

If you want to be a high performer in anything, you MUST have presence. Presence is much harder to attain when you have distractions. That is why I do not watch television - distraction. That is why I do most of my work in the early morning - no or less distractions of the day.

Due to business, I am on my smartphone a lot, yes. But I don't use my smartphone to "play" with folks or share ridiculous photos and the like.

Focus. Presence.


Says the guy posting on a football message board in the middle of a work day
Seems like TC is a propoenent of mindfulness meditation  
SomeFan : 8/5/2015 8:55 am : link
With him on that
I beleive the opposite on kids have it tougher now  
SomeFan : 8/5/2015 9:06 am : link
I think it is much easier today.
Interesting topic  
NNJ Tom : 8/5/2015 11:19 am : link
the only time my little guy is truly focused is when he is at karate. They demand focus there for the hour he works out.

Funny thing is, it's the place with, by far, the most harsh discipline he faces, and it's also his favorite place to be.

Makes you wonder......
It does make you wonder...  
Britt in VA : 8/5/2015 1:17 pm : link
Makes me wonder why we can't make schools like that.
RE: Interesting topic  
JonC : 8/5/2015 1:19 pm : link
In comment 12402930 NNJ Tom said:
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the only time my little guy is truly focused is when he is at karate. They demand focus there for the hour he works out.

Funny thing is, it's the place with, by far, the most harsh discipline he faces, and it's also his favorite place to be.

Makes you wonder......


It suggests he loves karate and all it entails, martial arts tend to have that effect, in particular. We're all happier and more focused, generally, investing ourselves and time in things we love.
Growing up 20+ years ago  
JonC : 8/5/2015 1:35 pm : link
you basically grew up within the isolation of your community, family, etc. No Internet or social media, a big event at school, sleeping over a friend's house, or a weekend at the beach or mountains was a huge deal. Sports Illustrated magazines and the daily sports page were a big deal!

Now, kids are growing up constantly bombarded by the Internet worlds of instant news, social media, celebrity worlds, I can't imagine the pressure of feeling like one has to live up to the things most teenagers might view as important. Everything feels exponentially amped compared to the 80s when I was a teen. Of course, that's my perception as a 45 year old on the outside looking in, perhaps even a little projection on my part was it would seem daunting.


Kids today have it harder in some respects and easier in others  
Greg from LI : 8/5/2015 1:58 pm : link
And easier doesn't automatically mean bad - I can remember our water breaks during summer practice being VERY restricted. This was 1992-93. The water was kept way over on the benches by the field house, maybe 75 yards away from the practice field. We'd get about two minutes to sprint over there, gulp down a bit of water, and sprint back. In a two hour practice you'd get at most three water breaks.

And scrambled-cable nudity? hhahaha...that brings back memories. I remember that Cinemax slowly but surely started coming in all the time on our cable box. At first you could make out slightly more of the picture, then a bit more, then the picture was recognizable but fuzzy, and then it was just perfect. Cinemax Friday After Dark....oh yeah.
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