How in God's name are we planning on going into this season with him starting at RT? He was, from all reports, awful last season in Cincinnati. He sure as hell didn't impress last night. Is he the best we got? If so, that's quite an indictment on Reese.
This offense can be real good, but if this OL doesn't do its job, it won't be.
God help Eli if we can't get better than that. That was a very good defensive front and lord knows what would have happened if they were in there all night.
How, as an organization, can you not recognize how bad Newhouse and Jerry are. It is an indictment of Reese...terrible, terrible job he has done on the OL and it will cost him his job unless there is a drastic improvement.
That said...it is only preseason but we need Schwartz back and an answer for RT until Beatty gets back.
God help Eli if we can't get better than that. That was a very good defensive front and lord knows what would have happened if they were in there all night.
How, as an organization, can you not recognize how bad Newhouse and Jerry are. It is an indictment of Reese...terrible, terrible job he has done on the OL and it will cost him his job unless there is a drastic improvement.
That said...it is only preseason but we need Schwartz back and an answer for RT until Beatty gets back.
and the center from canada. flowers/hart,baffling thats all jerry did.
mosley,brewer,petrus,mccants,cordle,charlie brown,newhouse,jerry,jeff hatch and roele just to name a few,that is really embarrassing.
As I've written repeatedly, there's a dearth of OL talent in this league, which is why guys like James Brewer, Charles Brown, J.D. Walton, and Marshall Newhouse are all on new teams. But Newhouse wasn't signed to start, and neither was Jerry. They've been pressed into those roles - for now - because of injuries.
When was this ever stated by anyone?
Just awful. At some point you have to stop making excuses for this teams decision-making and ineptitude. Granted its only 1 preseason game but...well...been there done that. This guy should not be on an NFL roster.
Just awful. At some point you have to stop making excuses for this teams decision-making and ineptitude. Granted its only 1 preseason game but...well...been there done that. This guy should not be on an NFL roster.
as per reports,the blindside kid michael oher doing well in carolina.
As I've written repeatedly, there's a dearth of OL talent in this league, which is why guys like James Brewer, Charles Brown, J.D. Walton, and Marshall Newhouse are all on new teams. But Newhouse wasn't signed to start, and neither was Jerry. They've been pressed into those roles - for now - because of injuries.
ben grubbs would have been a soild pick up,he went to kc.
good point about the valuating process,could be a fatal flaw in the org.
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He knows Macadoo's system he obviously deserves a roster spot, you know this game has little do with talent.
When was this ever stated by anyone?
Just sarcasm man.
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After the draft, and after all of the starting-caliber UFA OL healthy enough to play were signed.
As I've written repeatedly, there's a dearth of OL talent in this league, which is why guys like James Brewer, Charles Brown, J.D. Walton, and Marshall Newhouse are all on new teams. But Newhouse wasn't signed to start, and neither was Jerry. They've been pressed into those roles - for now - because of injuries.
ben grubbs would have been a soild pick up,he went to kc.
Grubbs wasn't a UFA. He was traded to KC for a 5th round pick.
Cordle was a UDFA who spent most of his time here on the PS. It's not like the Giants were heavily invested in him.
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He knows Macadoo's system he obviously deserves a roster spot, you know this game has little do with talent.
When was this ever stated by anyone?
Just sarcasm man.
actually,that was a quote on giants.com from reese/tc,cannot remember.
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After the draft, and after all of the starting-caliber UFA OL healthy enough to play were signed.
As I've written repeatedly, there's a dearth of OL talent in this league, which is why guys like James Brewer, Charles Brown, J.D. Walton, and Marshall Newhouse are all on new teams. But Newhouse wasn't signed to start, and neither was Jerry. They've been pressed into those roles - for now - because of injuries.
ben grubbs would have been a soild pick up,he went to kc.
Grubbs wasn't a UFA. He was traded to KC for a 5th round pick.
i forgot that,we could have been in on that,jerry has the freedom do something like that,i think.
No worries, Curtis, but consider this: it's less about bad decision-making and more about bad timing. One example is a guy like Joe Barksdale (who had a very good 2013, but regressed mightily in 2014, but who I'd still rather have at RT than Newhouse). He signed for the vet minimum with a new team on May 19. Beatty got hurt on May 20.
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After the draft, and after all of the starting-caliber UFA OL healthy enough to play were signed.
As I've written repeatedly, there's a dearth of OL talent in this league, which is why guys like James Brewer, Charles Brown, J.D. Walton, and Marshall Newhouse are all on new teams. But Newhouse wasn't signed to start, and neither was Jerry. They've been pressed into those roles - for now - because of injuries.
ben grubbs would have been a soild pick up,he went to kc.
Grubbs wasn't a UFA. He was traded to KC for a 5th round pick.
i forgot that,we could have been in on that,jerry has the freedom do something like that,i think.
Sure, we could have, but in March, when that trade was made, the Giants were planning on starting Pugh and Schwartz at LG and RG, respectively. They still are.
i get that,but what are the real numbers?
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I don't know if the Giants wanted to spend that much for a 31 year-old Guard who'd been solid, but hardly spectacular, for the Saints.
i get that,but what are the real numbers?
Look it up. You're the guy that wanted him.
Hint: He got a new contract from KC.
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I don't know if the Giants wanted to spend that much for a 31 year-old Guard who'd been solid, but hardly spectacular, for the Saints.
i get that,but what are the real numbers?
Look it up. You're the guy that wanted him.
Hint: He got a new contract from KC.
i just made a point that he was an option,but you are right,i could look it up.
Why would we be down to the third string? A team should still have two players that can sub at all positions. Who are our subs? Our second team players are Newhouse and Jerry. That is sad. So, maybe you meant third string players on the second team.
Newhouse and Jerry suck moose balls. They are not even quality backups. Shame Eli will once again have receivers running free with no time to deliver the ball.
The Beatty injury is a killer. Someone needs to step up. Mosely & Schwartz being the main candidates. Schwartz is becoming Carl Pavano like in this town.
Newhouse is terrible and clearly not the answer. Why not play either Cleary or Donnelly at RT? They cannot possibly play worse than Newhouse and maybe show promise at RT.
I am hoping someone .... anyone .... steps up
Reese needs to seriously look in the mirror.
Marshall Newhouse - 2 years, $3 million.
They are your quintessential drive blockers who can block straight ahead but ask them to reach block or do anything that gets their hips in the hole and goodnight Irene. Any DT or DE who takes a good angle and plays inside or outside shade with even a mediocre get off will immediately win the leverage battle against these two. They're both awful.
Some of this is on TC
Our depth may not be great,but let's face it. TC will almost always pick the veteran over the younger player. He also picks the players that know their assignments in practice over those that have better physical tools. Our depth isn't great but I am sorry. Moseley and Hart both look much more capable than Newhouse. Hart's footwork didn't look that bad for a huge rookie. I bet though that TC sticks with Newhouse anyway.
You know the sad part is, our left side probably isn't too great either. It's just over shadowed by a terrible right side.
Who the hell were we bidding against? Cincy gave him a 50K bonus last year. His value went up sixteen-fold because he sucked extra special-like?
I'll concede the tape shows he didn't play poorly, but did he play well. Can be two different things. In fairness, we may be pilling on him a bit much, but it was frustrating to watch so much ineptness from the 1st string offense, which is actually loaded with talent.
The other problem here is that if they Giants thought they were in a position to make another SB run, they probably would have signed guys like Long and Mathis for that purpose. My sense is that they think they are still in rebuild mode and want to bring in younger guys who they can develop for the longer haul. Unfortunately, the guys they have brought in have either been scrap heap types or guys who can't stay on the field.
To give Reese some credit, he has spent several high picks on OL in the past several years. Beatty was a 2. Pugh a 1. Richburg a 2 and Flowers a 1. Problem is they haven't played together really at all. That group would need like 2 years together to be what than can really be. All they would need to do is add a guard to that (preferably a real one). Maybe Mosely or Hart could be the final piece but they all need time together. Newhouse, like Jerry, Jones, Reynolds, etc. is strictly a backup and should not be thought of as more than that.