He's not shooting himself in the foot because if he could he would of done 40 times already. He is the true Teflon Don. Let's say the field gets down to 4, who are they going to rally around to knock him out?
party primary, so like you, being concerned more with the other party candidate than the one from the party I generally support I am voting in the Democratic primary for whoever has a chance against Hillary.
Less important to me than who the Republicans nominate is the fear of god that Hillary Clinton might someday be the most powerful person on the planet and the leader of our great country. that is the train that needs to be stopped.
I might do that too here in Georgia. I'll vote for Bernie unless there is a R who I really want to win.
Nothing about Trump of Republicans or Democrats, but I wanted to say that I have always found that type of primary to be abhorrent and one of the most anti-democratic things in our whole system. Whether he's a great guy or an abominable douche, the party and only the party members should get to say who represents them and their ideology in the election.
BOO! I reject the two party system. They are the biggest problem in American politics, IMO.
That's fine for a general election. But primaries are an election only for one party or the other, so whether or not there should be more than one party is not relevant to that. The primary is for the party to decide upon the best candidate to present their message, so it makes no sense for non party members to influence that.
good post man george I agree with everything you said except
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The proportion of Republicans who won't vote for him under any circumstances remains extremely high. A ceiling of 30% or so can get you to the Convention, but he will be ripped to shreds there by whomever in the top one or two of other candidates at that time the establishment leadership decides to back.
if you look back at past 2 republican primaries - McCain and Romney were both polling in 30% range at beginning . The way the Republican primary system is set up .. the front runner has huge advantage in that the front runner can grab the most delegates even if they have a plurality rather than majority win ... . but that is if they can translate their front runner status to delegates.
This is where Trump could slip up .. He could be first or second in early primaries but not have the ground gain to translate these wins into delegates
But He has tapped into something that is resonating with people. which is he is anti politician . .
If Hillary can survive the hit jobs from the right then she will be fine
If she bows up then it is going to be a wild Democratic primary
I can see Biden , Al Gore jumping in and a draft Lizzy Warren movement happening
it won't be Sanders ever.
Just a point, the 'hits' that Hillary is taking are of her own making and are being delivered by the FBI. The 'right' has nothing to do with it.
good post man george I agree with everything you said except
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The proportion of Republicans who won't vote for him under any circumstances remains extremely high. A ceiling of 30% or so can get you to the Convention, but he will be ripped to shreds there by whomever in the top one or two of other candidates at that time the establishment leadership decides to back.
if you look back at past 2 republican primaries - McCain and Romney were both polling in 30% range at beginning . The way the Republican primary system is set up .. the front runner has huge advantage in that the front runner can grab the most delegates even if they have a plurality rather than majority win ... . but that is if they can translate their front runner status to delegates.
This is where Trump could slip up .. He could be first or second in early primaries but not have the ground gain to translate these wins into delegates
But He has tapped into something that is resonating with people. which is he is anti politician . .
If Hillary can survive the hit jobs from the right then she will be fine
If she bows up then it is going to be a wild Democratic primary
I can see Biden , Al Gore jumping in and a draft Lizzy Warren movement happening
it won't be Sanders ever.
Just a point, the 'hits' that Hillary is taking are of her own making and are being delivered by the FBI. The 'right' has nothing to do with it.
to the fact that Trump DOESN'T ACTUALLY KNOW ANYTHING about policy, diplomacy, presidential politics, etc he'll hit his ceiling. He hasn't answered one question with anything of substance.
Take for example his retort on the ACA - "I'd replace it with something terrific...and work out a really smart deal with hospitals."
What?
He's quotable. Angry. Arrogant. And completely full of shit. Like his supporters.
he's a business man, he get 'his people' to get an economic and foreign policy one.
You can have a candidate that has all these well thought out policies that you agree with. And then they get into office and they either don't or can't do any of them. People think Trump will do what he says.
So DOJ and the FBI are part of the vast right wing conspiracy?
And I will say this. The hit job mantra might work with the Democratic faithful with respect to any criminal charges. But what would finish Hillary's candidacy, and I believe one of the things the FBI is looking at, is whether the server was hacked. Now perhaps wiping clean might have erased evidence with regards to hacking, but a discovery that her home brewed server was hacked by Russia or China would be fatal.
Only point - Trump, Sanders, & Carson are doing well in the polls because they are being themselves; perceived as genuine. People tired of political BS and typical managed message candidate.
By no means am I saying they have a chance to win. Rather, the non-fringe type candidates could learn a lesson.
I love the fact Trump gave helicopter rides at Iowa state fair Â
ACA replacement, etc. will have to be replaced by actual plans as the field narrows down.
Other candidates will run attack ads, not just about what he says, but about what he doesn't say.
"Donald Trump says he has a secret plan to defeat ISIS, defeat China economically, and replace Obamacare, among many other things. Before you vote for him to Represent Republicans as a presidential candidate, wouldn't you like to know what those secret plans are? Tell Donald to show us his plans."
Then of course, he will come up with nothing, and begin to fade, if he hasn't already.
to the fact that Trump DOESN'T ACTUALLY KNOW ANYTHING about policy, diplomacy, presidential politics, etc he'll hit his ceiling. He hasn't answered one question with anything of substance.
Take for example his retort on the ACA - "I'd replace it with something terrific...and work out a really smart deal with hospitals."
What?
He's quotable. Angry. Arrogant. And completely full of shit. Like his supporters.
Most of his supporters are fed up with the same old shit, not full of it. Dumb statement.
Obamacare and he also said he wouldn't back out of the Iran deal.He did say that he thinks everyone deserves the safety net of coverage. He did say as a businessman you dont tear up a deal but you can hold Iran to everything that is the deal
he'll plummet faster than Howard Dean after a scream.
As for his comments, there isn't a politician alive who utters anything more than generic soundbite stuff in public, like 'I'll only spy on those who need spying on and leave the honest folk alone'.
Once you know that, you have the answer to the Trump question.
Winning a presidential primary isn't about popularity, not at this stage, anyway. Poll numbers are nice because good numbers bring in money and support. But to actually win the primary, you need an organization. You need a ground game. You need people knocking on doors and making phone calls.
You also need to fucking work every day, pressing the flesh with the peons and visiting every tiny town in Iowa and New Hampshire.
The old maxim that bad generals talk about tactics and great ones talk about logistics applies here in spades.
and on policy no more learned or astute than Sarah Palin.
That is why he is full of shit. He's got nothing alternative to offer, other than anger to feed his fearful, bigoted followers, who remind me a lot of the Yonkers yokels on HBO last night.
Once you know that, you have the answer to the Trump question.
Winning a presidential primary isn't about popularity, not at this stage, anyway. Poll numbers are nice because good numbers bring in money and support. But to actually win the primary, you need an organization. You need a ground game. You need people knocking on doors and making phone calls.
You also need to fucking work every day, pressing the flesh with the peons and visiting every tiny town in Iowa and New Hampshire.
The old maxim that bad generals talk about tactics and great ones talk about logistics applies here in spades.
Your right. Also, if Trump stays in for the long haul he better start working on his policies & what exactly he's gonna do to actually fix the mess we're in & let the public in on it. Bluster will only last so long.
And then he needs a plan to replace the low-cost farm and domestic workers nearly everyone prefers to lets stay with a wink and a nod, after he kicks out 11.5 million illegals. Does he have a guest worker program? What does it look like?
Is in terms of Iran. I keep hearing 'This deal sucks. If I'm president, I will dismantle it.' Alright, but what then? The sanctions aren't coming back if we skip out on this. So we'd be isolated in that aspect, as well as now Iran doing whatever the hell wants.
All true, and I can't believe you are actually entertaining Â
this entitled piece of garbage, an unabashed bigot, who is exploiting and legitimizing the inchoate hostility of a fearful, aging white population and encouraging them to focus that hostility on Latino and black people. Trumps Mexican rapists are on the same ideological plane as the Charleston's shooter's "You black people are raping our women."
Trump supporters are the same people Roger Ailes targets all the time: the folks who have been pissing their pants and spewing conspiracy theories in the face of a massive demographic shift in the US, that has gained momentum and shifted white people into soon-to-be-minority status. Oh shit, we're going to lose our unearned advantage over everybody else!
If you support Trump because "ZOMG BILLIONAIRE!!!1111" ... take a look at his record in Atlantic City. Yeah, do that to the rest of the US.
*head-desk*
He's an entertainer; a snake oil salesman, and he's running an entirely ego-driven campaign to avenge his public humiliation by President Obama at the Correspondents Dinner, the night Obama killed Bin Laden.
the guy to do the things he says he wants done. A lot of what he is saying I agree with. I am sick of boiler plate pols including HRC. If there was someone with the skills to implement some of what he is talking about, I'm on board
is JUST to angry white men frustrated over the loss of their near-monopoly on governance, you're pretty evidently projecting your own preconceptions onto them. Headhunter is right, at least in part. This is a wider rejection of canned candidates, the sort of scripted, nonthreatening folks who seem to do the bidding of big-dollar donors. The anger in the Occupy movements and the anger of the Tea Party crowd are not as diametrically opposed as we would prefer that they be.
RE: All true, and I can't believe you are actually entertaining Â
this entitled piece of garbage, an unabashed bigot, who is exploiting and legitimizing the inchoate hostility of a fearful, aging white population and encouraging them to focus that hostility on Latino and black people. Trumps Mexican rapists are on the same ideological plane as the Charleston's shooter's "You black people are raping our women."
Trump supporters are the same people Roger Ailes targets all the time: the folks who have been pissing their pants and spewing conspiracy theories in the face of a massive demographic shift in the US, that has gained momentum and shifted white people into soon-to-be-minority status. Oh shit, we're going to lose our unearned advantage over everybody else!
If you support Trump because "ZOMG BILLIONAIRE!!!1111" ... take a look at his record in Atlantic City. Yeah, do that to the rest of the US.
*head-desk*
He's an entertainer; a snake oil salesman, and he's running an entirely ego-driven campaign to avenge his public humiliation by President Obama at the Correspondents Dinner, the night Obama killed Bin Laden.
Guess you're not gonna be wearing a "Make America Great" hat anytime soon.
Schnitzel, Trump is more than qualified to be president because Â
We have a community organizer now. Trump is saying to do things alot of Americans are afraid to say because of political correctness or witch hunt name calling which you are doing. I don't agree with everything Trump wants but as of today he is the choice so far according to polls. Megan Kelly tried to hot Carl him on at the debate and he withstood that.
and on policy no more learned or astute than Sarah Palin.
That is why he is full of shit. He's got nothing alternative to offer, other than anger to feed his fearful, bigoted followers, who remind me a lot of the Yonkers yokels on HBO last night.
Maybe, I mean he sponsors a beauty pageant. But check this out:
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Appearing on CNN’s “New Day,” Trump Executive Vice President Michael Cohen offered to show CNN how much Trump pays women in his organization and said other candidates should follow suit.
Cohen said there are more men that work for the company in “most respects,” but added that there are more female executives at the Trump organization than men.
“Women who are similarly situated in positions…are actually paid more,” he added.
“And you can prove it? Sounds too good to be true,” CNN host Chris Cuomo responded.
But Cohen claimed he certainly can prove it. Watch the segment via CNN:
Meanwhile Hillary is all over War on Women, but pays the women on her staff less than the men. Link - ( New Window )
Oh great, now people don't understand the male-female Â
by those that know him including HRC knows that what you see on camera is who he has been off camera every dasy for the last 30 years. He is a good time waiting to happen. He is the real Good Time Charlie, the guy that is having a blast everyday, dates and marries the best looking women, gets approached in the streets and takes the time to talk to regular people, take pictures with him,. Everyone that spends time with him,loves hanging with him. He is not afraid to say what is on his mind and people love him. The idea to build the fence has been around a long time, this is not a Trump idea, the reason it got shot down was it was too expensive.
RE: Schnitzel, Trump is more than qualified to be president because Â
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We have a community organizer now. Trump is saying to do things alot of Americans are afraid to say because of political correctness or witch hunt name calling which you are doing. I don't agree with everything Trump wants but as of today he is the choice so far according to polls. Megan Kelly tried to hot Carl him on at the debate and he withstood that.
That was a softball that he could have hit out of the park, but he came unprepared for any criticism and he attacked Kelly way too vociferously.
2) They didn't claim to be big supporters of women, while having a laundry list of vile comments about specific women in their prior history.
It was an absolutely valid question under the circumstances, and if he had an actual political staff like real presidential candidates do, he would have been prepared for it.
I would like to see Trump Cic of armed forces. The idea to make Â
I can see him having more of a shot today than i did a month ago. I think he has said some good things and some things I don't agree with. I would ideally like someone to take the best of what he says have the ability to get elected and have a shot at implementing stuff. His ego is huge, but there is a method to his madness. You listen how
he builds himself up and tears apart his rivals is a thing of beauty. The first couple of times you hear him do it, you get repulsed or pissed or whatever. The more he does it, the more you see how effective it is.
Who's the last complete buffoon to serve as POTUS? Â
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party primary, so like you, being concerned more with the other party candidate than the one from the party I generally support I am voting in the Democratic primary for whoever has a chance against Hillary.
Less important to me than who the Republicans nominate is the fear of god that Hillary Clinton might someday be the most powerful person on the planet and the leader of our great country. that is the train that needs to be stopped.
I might do that too here in Georgia. I'll vote for Bernie unless there is a R who I really want to win.
Nothing about Trump of Republicans or Democrats, but I wanted to say that I have always found that type of primary to be abhorrent and one of the most anti-democratic things in our whole system. Whether he's a great guy or an abominable douche, the party and only the party members should get to say who represents them and their ideology in the election.
BOO! I reject the two party system. They are the biggest problem in American politics, IMO.
That's fine for a general election. But primaries are an election only for one party or the other, so whether or not there should be more than one party is not relevant to that. The primary is for the party to decide upon the best candidate to present their message, so it makes no sense for non party members to influence that.
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The proportion of Republicans who won't vote for him under any circumstances remains extremely high. A ceiling of 30% or so can get you to the Convention, but he will be ripped to shreds there by whomever in the top one or two of other candidates at that time the establishment leadership decides to back.
if you look back at past 2 republican primaries - McCain and Romney were both polling in 30% range at beginning . The way the Republican primary system is set up .. the front runner has huge advantage in that the front runner can grab the most delegates even if they have a plurality rather than majority win ... . but that is if they can translate their front runner status to delegates.
This is where Trump could slip up .. He could be first or second in early primaries but not have the ground gain to translate these wins into delegates
But He has tapped into something that is resonating with people. which is he is anti politician . .
If Hillary can survive the hit jobs from the right then she will be fine
If she bows up then it is going to be a wild Democratic primary
I can see Biden , Al Gore jumping in and a draft Lizzy Warren movement happening
it won't be Sanders ever.
Just a point, the 'hits' that Hillary is taking are of her own making and are being delivered by the FBI. The 'right' has nothing to do with it.
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good post man george I agree with everything you said except
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The proportion of Republicans who won't vote for him under any circumstances remains extremely high. A ceiling of 30% or so can get you to the Convention, but he will be ripped to shreds there by whomever in the top one or two of other candidates at that time the establishment leadership decides to back.
if you look back at past 2 republican primaries - McCain and Romney were both polling in 30% range at beginning . The way the Republican primary system is set up .. the front runner has huge advantage in that the front runner can grab the most delegates even if they have a plurality rather than majority win ... . but that is if they can translate their front runner status to delegates.
This is where Trump could slip up .. He could be first or second in early primaries but not have the ground gain to translate these wins into delegates
But He has tapped into something that is resonating with people. which is he is anti politician . .
If Hillary can survive the hit jobs from the right then she will be fine
If she bows up then it is going to be a wild Democratic primary
I can see Biden , Al Gore jumping in and a draft Lizzy Warren movement happening
it won't be Sanders ever.
Just a point, the 'hits' that Hillary is taking are of her own making and are being delivered by the FBI. The 'right' has nothing to do with it.
Take for example his retort on the ACA - "I'd replace it with something terrific...and work out a really smart deal with hospitals."
What?
He's quotable. Angry. Arrogant. And completely full of shit. Like his supporters.
You can have a candidate that has all these well thought out policies that you agree with. And then they get into office and they either don't or can't do any of them. People think Trump will do what he says.
And I will say this. The hit job mantra might work with the Democratic faithful with respect to any criminal charges. But what would finish Hillary's candidacy, and I believe one of the things the FBI is looking at, is whether the server was hacked. Now perhaps wiping clean might have erased evidence with regards to hacking, but a discovery that her home brewed server was hacked by Russia or China would be fatal.
Flipping the 14th Amendment? Great.
What's sad is the amount of Americans who love the hate-filled rhetoric.
Disgusting, and seriously frigging embarrassing that someone like this is leading a major Party race.
By no means am I saying they have a chance to win. Rather, the non-fringe type candidates could learn a lesson.
As a Democrat, I'll take my odds versus aby of them with the exception of Rubio.
Trump is a fad.
Other candidates will run attack ads, not just about what he says, but about what he doesn't say.
"Donald Trump says he has a secret plan to defeat ISIS, defeat China economically, and replace Obamacare, among many other things. Before you vote for him to Represent Republicans as a presidential candidate, wouldn't you like to know what those secret plans are? Tell Donald to show us his plans."
Then of course, he will come up with nothing, and begin to fade, if he hasn't already.
Take for example his retort on the ACA - "I'd replace it with something terrific...and work out a really smart deal with hospitals."
What?
He's quotable. Angry. Arrogant. And completely full of shit. Like his supporters.
Most of his supporters are fed up with the same old shit, not full of it. Dumb statement.
As for his comments, there isn't a politician alive who utters anything more than generic soundbite stuff in public, like 'I'll only spy on those who need spying on and leave the honest folk alone'.
Winning a presidential primary isn't about popularity, not at this stage, anyway. Poll numbers are nice because good numbers bring in money and support. But to actually win the primary, you need an organization. You need a ground game. You need people knocking on doors and making phone calls.
You also need to fucking work every day, pressing the flesh with the peons and visiting every tiny town in Iowa and New Hampshire.
The old maxim that bad generals talk about tactics and great ones talk about logistics applies here in spades.
That is why he is full of shit. He's got nothing alternative to offer, other than anger to feed his fearful, bigoted followers, who remind me a lot of the Yonkers yokels on HBO last night.
BASH: So, you’re in the Oval Office, you’re saying, Obamacare…
TRUMP: It’s got to go.
BASH: It’s got to go.
TRUMP: Repeal and replace with something terrific
Link - ( New Window )
Winning a presidential primary isn't about popularity, not at this stage, anyway. Poll numbers are nice because good numbers bring in money and support. But to actually win the primary, you need an organization. You need a ground game. You need people knocking on doors and making phone calls.
You also need to fucking work every day, pressing the flesh with the peons and visiting every tiny town in Iowa and New Hampshire.
The old maxim that bad generals talk about tactics and great ones talk about logistics applies here in spades.
Your right. Also, if Trump stays in for the long haul he better start working on his policies & what exactly he's gonna do to actually fix the mess we're in & let the public in on it. Bluster will only last so long.
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BASH: So, you’re in the Oval Office, you’re saying, Obamacare…
TRUMP: It’s got to go.
BASH: It’s got to go.
TRUMP: Repeal and replace with something terrific
Link - ( New Window )
Sounds like a man with a plan!
And then he needs a plan to replace the low-cost farm and domestic workers nearly everyone prefers to lets stay with a wink and a nod, after he kicks out 11.5 million illegals. Does he have a guest worker program? What does it look like?
Trump supporters are the same people Roger Ailes targets all the time: the folks who have been pissing their pants and spewing conspiracy theories in the face of a massive demographic shift in the US, that has gained momentum and shifted white people into soon-to-be-minority status. Oh shit, we're going to lose our unearned advantage over everybody else!
If you support Trump because "ZOMG BILLIONAIRE!!!1111" ... take a look at his record in Atlantic City. Yeah, do that to the rest of the US.
*head-desk*
He's an entertainer; a snake oil salesman, and he's running an entirely ego-driven campaign to avenge his public humiliation by President Obama at the Correspondents Dinner, the night Obama killed Bin Laden.
A man with a plan!
What kind of a plan?
A plan to make a plan! A plan to make a plan to save the plan-it!
He will Trumpet it to the the world!
Actually, its a plan to save a smaller world than ours. A planetoid, as it were. We will call it Pluto!
Trump supporters are the same people Roger Ailes targets all the time: the folks who have been pissing their pants and spewing conspiracy theories in the face of a massive demographic shift in the US, that has gained momentum and shifted white people into soon-to-be-minority status. Oh shit, we're going to lose our unearned advantage over everybody else!
If you support Trump because "ZOMG BILLIONAIRE!!!1111" ... take a look at his record in Atlantic City. Yeah, do that to the rest of the US.
*head-desk*
He's an entertainer; a snake oil salesman, and he's running an entirely ego-driven campaign to avenge his public humiliation by President Obama at the Correspondents Dinner, the night Obama killed Bin Laden.
Guess you're not gonna be wearing a "Make America Great" hat anytime soon.
That is why he is full of shit. He's got nothing alternative to offer, other than anger to feed his fearful, bigoted followers, who remind me a lot of the Yonkers yokels on HBO last night.
You forgot misogynistic.
Cohen said there are more men that work for the company in “most respects,” but added that there are more female executives at the Trump organization than men.
“Women who are similarly situated in positions…are actually paid more,” he added.
“And you can prove it? Sounds too good to be true,” CNN host Chris Cuomo responded.
But Cohen claimed he certainly can prove it. Watch the segment via CNN:
Meanwhile Hillary is all over War on Women, but pays the women on her staff less than the men.
Link - ( New Window )
Well done news...
2) They didn't claim to be big supporters of women, while having a laundry list of vile comments about specific women in their prior history.
It was an absolutely valid question under the circumstances, and if he had an actual political staff like real presidential candidates do, he would have been prepared for it.
he builds himself up and tears apart his rivals is a thing of beauty. The first couple of times you hear him do it, you get repulsed or pissed or whatever. The more he does it, the more you see how effective it is.
Taft is probably more infamous for being fat, but he was a Chief Justice of the Supreme Court aside from his other political positions.