I have been since 1958 a big Giants fan. Through the hard luck early 60s and the really depressing 70s. The glory of LT and Phil!
I've love the first 11 years of the new millennium.
However after this weekend I am really aggravated and concerned about this team.
For the first time in many years I could only watch the first half of Friday's debacle. God we look lost on defense and the offense was borderline pathetic.
However it was tuning in to some of the other games this weekend that really upset me. Just about every team had better drives than we did. Shit, the E-girls looked strong on both offense and defense. Andrew Luck actually was taken out in the middle of a drive. We were forced to keep Eli in and he ends up with 24 passing yards.
I had been a 'In Reese we trust'. I've thought Tommy C. to be better than most of the other coaches in the league. Now I am wondering if Reese is not the GM I thought he was. Why can’t we bring in someone that is better than Newhouse or Jerry?
Now, I'm not sure. God, Brandon F'ing Meriweather! I live in the DMV and this guy not only sucks but he is a thug. He tries to hurt people.
Oh, well there's my rant. So tough to see that Eli, Odell and Victor are playing with this team.
I will still watch all the games and hope.
I think your camel has brittle bone disease.
We lost our LT and best DE.......we know new defense will have growing pains and offense where not showing anything and were not clicking....as long as OL improves......we should be competitive
No it's not just the game that is bothering me. It's the general malaise that seems to be surrounding the team. Hell a good practice is when no one gets hurt. The free agents we sign end up nicked up.
Believe I hope I am wrong.
This team needs to start adding some more attitude. Does it mean stupid penalties/fines? No.....but I want opposing WR's start fearing the middle of the field instead of recent years where they seem to roam free without fear of reprisal.
I want a Dawkins type of guy to get in these guys faces in the huddle and put some toughness back into this team. Is BM the guy? I don't know. But it can't hurt to get some attitude back out there.
Saturday is a new day to start again and I'm all for it but I'm not into yet another long losing season.
Boy, if this week goes better, start mapping the parade route.
The defense is a concern for 2015, but we've known that for some time, especially after JPP blew himself up.
New defenses take time to learn, so the D will look confused until half time of the third game.
As we all know, the season is not won in the pre-season games.
It also doesn't help that the Bengals saw all the Giants defenses during the entire week.
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That you just got disenchanted after this pre-season game.
And boy! Did Jerry Golsteyn look great at QB!
Boy, if this week goes better, start mapping the parade route.
I'm really not sure that you need to be talking about someone killing himself. I don't mind the criticism that I am over reacting too early. However, as someone who has lost two close friends to suicide can you please temper your comments?
Now, is this one game enough for me to say the hell with them-No.
I like how you think!! maybe I will have a couple of shots of Bushmills when I get home.
Thanks for the suggestion!!!
It's difficult to win on the road. It's far more difficult to win on the road when you've been on the road for 5 days.
I can attribute almost every negative play I saw in that game to tired legs. We looked whupped. Simple.
Plus, we're not that good. I don't think we'll be a bad team when the shooting starts, but we're not good enough to play a solid game after a week of practice on the road that likely resulted in more contact than any other single practice to date.
Nothing makes a team look worse than tired legs. Nothing.
Also thank you Dorgan.
manh george, nice play dough
It is disenchanting to see the opposition move around with fluidity while our #1's are gimping, misdirected or just look check-ed out ...
I understand its preseason game 1, but this is exactly what we saw for 16 weeks in 2014, and just looks like a carry-over of the same crap, same weaknesses, same issues ... some new faces, but same execution ...
I am not getting into the injuries ...
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If it weren't Monday morning I'd call for a bottle of Lagavulin and the full tape of Super Bowl XLII as an immediate prescription.
I like how you think!! maybe I will have a couple of shots of Bushmills when I get home.
Thanks for the suggestion!!!
Attaboy, that's the way! And if that isn't enough, think of the Jets and Geno getting his jaw jacked up, we are light years ahead of the little runts sharing our building as usual and the schadenfreude is delicious.
Now, is this one game enough for me to say the hell with them-No.
Everyone is right to not go overboard on this one game. But I do empathize with the OP. It isn't this game, its the "here we go again" factor and everything leading up to it starting with JPP and all the subsequent injuries and culminating in a non-competitive showing against a team we practiced against in the days leading up to it. Its only a preseason game, but it would have been nice to see a competitive effort against a team that was also playing its first pre-season game ... not to mention without continuing the avalanche of injuries. But better days are coming ... soon we hope.
So was I. It was humiliating, but lets face it that was a very very good Jets team
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46 years ago today. That was a day for disenchantment. Take heart. Nothing could ever be as bad as that
Oh God I was there also. Sitting on concrete getting poured on by rain and the Jet fans. Talk about a long ride home with two Giant fans and four Jet fans. Amazed that I still talk to two of them!!!
So was I. It was humiliating, but lets face it that was a very very good Jets team
manh george, nice play dough
Both.
After a good day of contact, the body needs rest to recover.
We had 3 practices in a row where the contact was harder than it had been. Not enough recovery time. Couple that with being out of town and you'll get what you witnessed.
We held joint practices all the time when I coached. We also had to only travel about 15 miles and we never stayed over night. Even then, by the end of the week our energy level dropped. It's good work, but it's taxing.
I expected a lackluster performance by the Giants Friday.
What I didn't expect was the mistakes by our skill position players. I thought our WRs played very poorly.
I thought our skill players were lackluster too, pretty much the entire squad. We lost most, not all, the physical battles; it was not pretty. Given your objective take, and TC's taking the team to task, we have reason to expect better this week.
I don't think they're a playoff team yet, but they are on the upswing and with some luck will have a winning record.
I want to see improvement next game. Then more improvement the following game. There are a lot of new pieces here. Patience is necessary.
JPP- a player with great athleticism who had less proven experience/ data to support his love of the game, pain and all.
Mykkele Thomson, possibly the same, a guy with great athleticism that nobody had on the radar, and, I have not checked, perhaps less resume, proving love of the pain and an ability to remain un-injured.
Brewer, Robinson, little in the way of good 'college tape' and high upside athletically.
The wash outs and injuries are not as surprising as we like to pretend.
Back in the day, 'football player' was synonymous with 'tough and durable'.
On a slight miller, the pre-season games looked like some cheap assed crap arena ball. not football. a farce of throw up the ball and catch. prefer the old rules re: corner play and hitting the QB.
Whereas in basketball, one had the idea that the individual players had outgrown the game itself as a matter of emphasis.
The preseason games looked like union rules, that is to say, play pass and catch, go easy, don't get hurt, who cares about the rest, take your time.
But if guys with jobs that are winnable did not appear to want to be there, they will be gone by the first cutdown.
Lots of management,coaches, and players on a short leash this year, despite the FO play down to that effect.
As much as there is no comparison, Arena guys make 400-600 a game , and Canadians make maybe 2,000 /game.
And I realize Brett Jones is a project, but a tryout by a hungry player can make for incentive.
And signing a spacecadet like Meriwether should put guys on notice; maybe we should have signed IK also.
Maybe our players would be tougher if they practiced like Navy Seals instead of actual seals positioning themselves on the beach for sunning! Geez!
killing the goose, as it were
there was no semblance of continuity on the O', just lazy looking bodies going through the motions ... the O'line was dominated, but I expect this ...
this is not new, this is direct carry over from 2014 ...
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How did that work out for them in January last year? I'd have asked them, but their asses were sitting at home.
You know what was depressing? Going 5-0 in the pre-season last year, thinking all August that we were pretty good and then getting absolutely smoked in Detroit on that Monday night - 35-14. That really sucked.
None of this crap matters right now - just get some guys healthy and beat the Cowboys on opening hight. If that somehow happens - trust me - no one will give a shit about how we looked on a Friday night in August against Cincinnati
Boy, if this week goes better, start mapping the parade route.
the guy who wrote this has apparently been watching Giant football for a long time and is not just venting on what he sees right now. This writer has apparently seen the very good and the absolutely terrible and feels he's seeing another season of low class football on the horizon and I must admit that although I'm a long time Giant fan and always will be I have the same feeling that we're in for another season of mediocrity and then Mara will do whats been indicated for the last few years.....