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The Good the Bad and the Ugly

Reale01 : 8/23/2015 1:08 am
Short version as its late.

The good
Cornerbacks played well: Wade, McBride, DRC all had good moments.
Pass rush improved. OO and Damaonster are disruptive.
Linebackers players are much better than we have seen in awhile. JT Thomas and Kennard look to be legit and I like what I saw from Unga.
Bromley and Hendricks continue to impress.

Nassib looks like he is getting better and can play if needed.
Looks like we now have 4 offensive linemen and Newhouse was not terrible.
Gettis and Hart continue to play well with seconds
Reynolds is better than he was
The receivers came on and looked good. Jones, Harris, and the UConn kid stood out.
Hunt looks good and Darkqua continues to impress.

Kicker is solid

The Bad
Washington and Parker had moments, but may be in trouble.
Kuhn looked terrible
Safeties need a lot of work. Slow to come up. Poor recognition.
Eli was not sharp
Donnell still looks like a fumble waiting to happen
O-line coordination still needs work - but was better.
The JPP of TEs was like JPP - MIA.
Kick coverage was inconsistent.
Punt returns were horrible

The Ugly
Injuries, injuries, injuries.


I wouldn't put McBride under the good.  
robbieballs2003 : 8/23/2015 1:35 am : link
His first series, I think, he had three good plays in a row. He got worse after that. I dont know why. He can do better.

I am a big Moore fan but I wouldn't put him under the good category either. He had a sack. He also was quiet for a lot of plays. It is great experience for him which he needs. He gets too much into the chest of the OT. Hes not going to win those battles. He has to attack a shoulder. He is squaring up with the OT too much making the block that much easier for them. He has to make the OT turn their hips.
Did Hart really play well?  
robbieballs2003 : 8/23/2015 1:38 am : link
I saw him get driven right back into QB and also beaten around the edge pretty good.
On first watch...  
Dan in the Springs : 8/23/2015 2:50 am : link
I was impressed with Cleary. Seems to be doing okay at the LT position. Hoping he never sees the field in a meaningful game but thought he looked good overall.
I am concern about the lack of speed from the U.  
George from PA : 8/23/2015 5:10 am : link
Both Beason and Merryweather might be thumpers.....but their lack of foot speed is glaring and will burn us......
RE: Did Hart really play well?  
section125 : 8/23/2015 6:56 am : link
In comment 12431126 robbieballs2003 said:
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I saw him get driven right back into QB and also beaten around the edge pretty good.


So getting pushed backward on one play means he played poorly?
Well  
blueblood'11 : 8/23/2015 7:34 am : link
The good, this wasn't a regular season game.

The bad, Reese. He doesn't seem capable of building a complete roster.

The ugly. You would think that since they are in the second year of this new offense they wouldn't look like they are still cutting their teeth. Let's face it, the defense is a major concern and to see the offense tripping over itself the way the are it could be a another long disappointing season.
RE: Well  
Giantology : 8/23/2015 8:03 am : link
In comment 12431169 blueblood'11 said:
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The good, this wasn't a regular season game.

The bad, Reese. He doesn't seem capable of building a complete roster.

The ugly. You would think that since they are in the second year of this new offense they wouldn't look like they are still cutting their teeth. Let's face it, the defense is a major concern and to see the offense tripping over itself the way the are it could be a another long disappointing season.


You do realize that we are hardly running an offense out there, right? They've hardly installed the playbook, this is a vanilla offense right now.
Newhouse was terrible in pass protection  
jeff57 : 8/23/2015 8:16 am : link
I thought he was going to get Nassib killed.
Thomas and Wade had stellar performances  
jeff57 : 8/23/2015 8:19 am : link
Bromley and Moore did well, and I thought Moore showed great effort. Flowers looked good and loved his hustle on the tipped pass. Like what I saw from Davis and Jones.
Giantology  
blueblood'11 : 8/23/2015 9:55 am : link
Please. I don't need a football 101 lesson. I realize there is no game plan. But this offense is pretty much the same as it was last year and to come out looking they have just been introduced to one another is inexcusable.

They need to play like their hair is on fire because let's be clear here, the Eagles look they mean business and the way things are shaping up it would appear the Giants are going to need the offense to carry this team.
Right, people need to stop with the it's a vanilla offensive game plan  
BlueManFu : 8/23/2015 12:31 pm : link
excuse. That's ridiculous, every other team is in the same boat, but when you watch the teams in contention they still execute whatever plays are called and they crisply move down the field (at least when they're playing NYG in preseason, LOL).

To those that ascribe to the 'vanilla offense' theory, do you believe the Giants are the only team that goes with that approach? Serious question.
RE: RE: Did Hart really play well?  
robbieballs2003 : 8/23/2015 12:49 pm : link
In comment 12431161 section125 said:
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In comment 12431126 robbieballs2003 said:


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I saw him get driven right back into QB and also beaten around the edge pretty good.



So getting pushed backward on one play means he played poorly?


Well, one, I asked a question. Two, i pointed out two plays that I noticed a negative play for him. Three,I wasn't focused on him which was why I asked the question.

So, does not supplying any evidence suggest he played well other than just saying he did?
Thanks for comments  
Reale01 : 8/23/2015 1:17 pm : link
Hart looked strong and more than held his own. He got pushed back but maintained his technique and stayed between his rusher and the QB. I am NOT saying he is a stud but he may be a solid reserve with potential to start.

I said Newhouse was not terrible. He allowed pressure but managed to hold his man out. 7 step drops will be tough for him unless he gets help.tposition

I didn't see negatives with McBride but may have missed them.
RE: Thanks for comments  
robbieballs2003 : 8/23/2015 1:30 pm : link
In comment 12431482 Reale01 said:
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Hart looked strong and more than held his own. He got pushed back but maintained his technique and stayed between his rusher and the QB. I am NOT saying he is a stud but he may be a solid reserve with potential to start.

I said Newhouse was not terrible. He allowed pressure but managed to hold his man out. 7 step drops will be tough for him unless he gets help.tposition

I didn't see negatives with McBride but may have missed them.


If you rewatch the game, watch the series after those three straight good plays from him. He was very inconsistent. Sometimes, like the three plays in a row, he knew his assignment and played great technique. Others he seemed to lack one of those two things. I have to rewatch it again myself.
oh  
robbieballs2003 : 8/23/2015 1:30 pm : link
That was about McBride.
RE: Giantology  
River Mike : 8/23/2015 1:36 pm : link
In comment 12431277 blueblood'11 said:
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Please. I don't need a football 101 lesson. I realize there is no game plan. But this offense is pretty much the same as it was last year and to come out looking they have just been introduced to one another is inexcusable.

They need to play like their hair is on fire because let's be clear here, the Eagles look they mean business and the way things are shaping up it would appear the Giants are going to need the offense to carry this team.


Yes, one of my biggest pet peeves, the "no game plan" excuse. They still need to execute the plays that are called, beat their man in individual matchups. No one gives a crap about the score, but you have to be able to complete a pass or block your man.
RE: I am concern about the lack of speed from the U.  
Simms11 : 8/23/2015 2:10 pm : link
In comment 12431147 George from PA said:
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Both Beason and Merryweather might be thumpers.....but their lack of foot speed is glaring and will burn us......


Beason made a nice play to prevent a TD in the end zone; foot speed looked fine there?!
Is this O capable of putting up points?  
xman : 8/23/2015 2:49 pm : link
If not this team better have a very good D
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