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Raanan: Analysis of Ereck Flowers' play last night

Defenderdawg : 8/23/2015 11:52 am
Including video clips...
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I have give the Giants beat writers shit for their questions and lack  
robbieballs2003 : 8/23/2015 12:02 pm : link
of quality articles.

Jordan has been kind enough to come on here and face the heat even going as far as explaining his stance on why they ask some of the questions they do. I dont agree with it but I understand it.

This article was done very well. I know the writers dont think that the fans want stuff like this and, like ESPN, they try to appeal to the lowest common denominator but if this typs of stuff is consistently put out then "the lowest common denominator" will be elevated and more fans will flock to your sight.

We need someone that will raise the bar for the other writers. I feel like they always get pulled back down though. Hopefully this will continue.

Thank you Jordan.
Great article!  
Mr. Bungle : 8/23/2015 12:33 pm : link
More of those, please!
Really nice job, Jordan!  
yatqb : 8/23/2015 12:41 pm : link
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Can't  
geemanfan : 8/23/2015 12:54 pm : link
Get better then that.
If you look back  
BigBlueJ : 8/23/2015 1:19 pm : link
at the last couple of drafts, and the high pick projections for tackles (Fisher, Robinson, Scheff etc.) Erick is really the most athletic I have seen out of that group. It is going to come down to Technique, desire and discipline.
I think you can cross desire off your list  
Headhunter : 8/23/2015 1:22 pm : link
the guy consistently says he wants to and needs to get better
Clear to see why he was picked  
Reale01 : 8/23/2015 1:50 pm : link
Technique has already improved and he is a beast.

Food for thought on the last two drafts.

Do we take OBJ if Watkins or Evans was there?
Do we take Flowers if Scherff is there?

So far, it looks like the Giants did well with those picks.
Nicely done.  
Randy in CT : 8/23/2015 1:58 pm : link
2 words come to mind with Flowers.

Tenacious.

Wall.
You can always count on nj.com  
Jay in Toronto : 8/23/2015 2:04 pm : link
to have something on the Giants. Can't say that about the others (the Post seems to have a Jets fetish).
Very good read + clips  
mfsd : 8/23/2015 2:13 pm : link
and I agree, Ranaan stands out from the pack of Giants writers, usually bc he comes up with solid analysis of what's happening on the field

Flowers is going to be fine at OLT  
David B. : 8/23/2015 2:16 pm : link
so long as he stays healthy.
Ryan Davis, the guy who beat Flowers off the edge,  
Lowell : 8/23/2015 2:21 pm : link
is an emerging young player who had 6.5 sacks last year in his first year off the practice squad.
I'm getting to like this pick more and more.  
Ira : 8/23/2015 2:26 pm : link
He may turn out to be the best ol in this draft. He's still very young.
Ira  
ColHowPepper : 8/23/2015 2:49 pm : link
as among Peat, Scherff, Flowers, and even Collins there was a rotation of thought and consensus that one or the other was going to be the standout OL (tackle in particular) from this draft. For a while the Jints were focusing on Peat, but I guess EF's pro day changed the thinking, albeit not enough, apparently, to sway Reese from wanting Scherff if he was still on the board.

Much of the commentary about Scherff was whether his skill set/size would translate to tackle and whether he was much closer to his ceiling than Peat or Flowers.

If indeed scouts tended to rank Flowers lower because of problems (or inadequate coaching) with technique, that is the area that is fixable. As the poster above noted, do we still take EF if Scherff is on the board, same with OBJ last year if White is still there?

I know you are more than likely cognizant of all this, just musing on the recent past in response to your post.
Even the Redskins have already stated Scherff is a guard, not a tackle  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/23/2015 2:53 pm : link
I do not believe the Giants spend a top-10 pick on a guard.flowers made sense because he was a prototype tackle prospect which a chance to be a left tackle. Those always have more value than guards. I just do not think the have those positions ranked the same.
Jordan  
ColHowPepper : 8/23/2015 3:09 pm : link
great stuff, thank you.

It looks as though on Ryan's speed rush EF was thinking about getting to set his lower body after his bucket step instead of mirroring Ryan's line of attack. He did whiff with his right hand.

Notable too on the clip of André Williams' run was how well Pugh sealed off the DT.
TTH  
ColHowPepper : 8/23/2015 3:13 pm : link
no difference of opinion here; my reference to Scherff is he was still on the board at 9 was based on the commentary supposedly coming from the Giants' war room that the Iowa product was higher rated. I think a number of the long time, better informed posters here reiterated that, even if from a G vs. T position and drafting that high it doesn't make sense. IF that was true, there may have been the assessment that Scherff could transition.
* "if" not "is"  
ColHowPepper : 8/23/2015 3:13 pm : link
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Nice look at kid  
trueblueinpw : 8/23/2015 3:42 pm : link
Good article for real football fans. Too soon to say for sure but Flowers seems like a terrific pick. Really gonna be fun to watch him develop. Hopefully the O line takes on his allegedly nasty personality.
Good analysis and article.  
TMS : 8/23/2015 3:55 pm : link
Flowers is progressing well and may be as good as advertised. Good attitude and potential.
Raanan is rapidly  
Big Blue '56 : 8/23/2015 3:57 pm : link
gaining the Garafolo respect..

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