I just finished watching the JAX game. Nassib did not workout well before the draft but doesn't he have excellent feet and movement? Doesn't move like a guy who ran a 5+ second 40.
In this JAX game he really impressed with his arm talent, footwork, and overall athletic ability. He can snap out nice throws especially on the move.
I don't care if it was against backups. That doesn't matter to me. He had several big time throws that a lot of starters can't make. Throws a very tight ball while moving. Snaps it out easy with power. He had several beauties to Jones. A few others while getting hit.
He looked outstanding to me. I liked him coming out of college. Really liked what he did in this game. I'm a fan of his game. He may never get a shot to play with the NYG but I'm confident he could do the job if we need him.
If Eli doesn't get a long term extension and plays out the year, gets hurt for a portion and Nassib does REALLY WELL, well we have some decisions to make this off-season don't we?
Good to have solid QB's in this league. Hoping Nassib ends up being one.
But his footwork and ability to move in and out of the pocket were good and he can take a pop.
That is generally where Eli is also.
I like Nassib. I'm becoming a fan. I like that he's coming up with this team. A home grown talent, and you always hate to see them move on and be successful some place else (as a selfish fan) but that is probably what will happen. Just hope the Giants aren't struggling to find a replacement for Eli at the same time =)
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I think Nassib looked much better this week than last week. But, I think you are getting a little carried away with this thread. He was barely above 50% completion rate.
That is generally where Eli is also.
Really? 54.3% against backups is about the same as 63.1% against starters? OK.
KWALL2, I'll bet your eyes widened on that pass Nassib threw as he stepped up into a collapsing pocket, 10.40 left in Q4, looked like he was an instant away from being enveloped by the DT or DE from behind, somehow got his arm up, unbelievably quick release, and rifled the pass on the money (was it Jones?) about 18 yds downfield.
Not sure I saw all high % of misfires that former Tiki4six saw.
It is almost like a lot of people here are seeing preseason for the first time.
But his footwork and ability to move in and out of the pocket were good and he can take a pop.
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In comment 12435950 ZogZerg said:
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I think Nassib looked much better this week than last week. But, I think you are getting a little carried away with this thread. He was barely above 50% completion rate.
That is generally where Eli is also.
Really? 54.3% against backups is about the same as 63.1% against starters? OK.
Against backups, but also throwing to backup receivers and behind a backup line. Meanwhile Eli is around 30% in preseason. Not knocking Eli, just trying for some perspective.
And he was throwing against a decent number of guys who will be unemployed in the next 7-10 days. I'm not saying he's a bum who would trip over his shoelaces if he went against starters. But this thing where some of BBI is ready to anoint him the next Tom Brady or Steve Young is f-ing ridiculous.
He made a number of impressive throws.
He wasn't super sharp. He was late on some stuff. But it sure is easy to see how some had him as a first round QB prospect. He's very talented especially how he moves around and throws. You can do a lot of things with that kind of skill.
As for Nassib, I agree that he looks like there may something there. His overall comp % for the game wasn't anything overly impressive, but his 2nd half comp % was very good. He does have athleticism and can throw a dart.
Just out of pure curiosity, I'd love to him with the 1's against the 1's... but I can't see that happening.
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you have to keep in mind that he is throwing to receivers that he hasn't had a lot of time to work with yet due to being backups and the lack of practice time under the new CBA.
And he was throwing against a decent number of guys who will be unemployed in the next 7-10 days. I'm not saying he's a bum who would trip over his shoelaces if he went against starters. But this thing where some of BBI is ready to anoint him the next Tom Brady or Steve Young is f-ing ridiculous.
Yes and some of the guys he was throwing to will be unemployed in the next 7-10 days. I am not saying he is going to be a great starting QB one day but I can bet you there isn't a single GM in this league that wouldn't take Nassib over Vick. Also what BBIer compared Nassib to Brady or Young? I haven't seen anyone make this comparison. There are some who believe he MAY be the heir to Eli which is fine. BTW I am not one of those guys.
My comments were strictly about his throwing and movement skills. Didn't matter who was on the field. He made outstanding throws and plays.
He wasn't flawless. He had some issues but the guy is a talented player.
He would also be throwing to Beckham, Cruz, Randle, Donnell, Harris, Vereen instead of Washington, Parker, Davis, Robinson, Darkwa/Hunt.
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Well, it should. If he had to play in a regular season game, he wouldn't be facing preseason game backups.
He would also be throwing to Beckham, Cruz, Randle, Donnell, Harris, Vereen instead of Washington, Parker, Davis, Robinson, Darkwa/Hunt.
Right. Which makes it difficult to draw any substantial conclusions about what he would or could do in the regular season, were the Giants required to rely on him.
I remember watching Brady Quinn come into the second half of a Jets/Browns preseason game his rookie year. He looked poised, moved well, and threw accurate passes to the correct receiving option. I remember thinking, "Wow, the Browns might have something here with Quinn."
Then the rest of his career happened.
I don't dislike Nassib -- I root for him because he's a Giant. But even if he did some things well in a preseason game, I have to factor in the game circumstances.
I can find plenty of examples of players who stepped in during the regular season who looked good but didn't develop into players.
It's a small sample for Nassib. However, there were plenty of things to like about the guy from that ONE game. I don't care who he was throwing to or playing against. He can't control that. The things he could control are the things I looked at and I thought he was pretty damn impressive.
Why can't we look for things in preseason that may or may not work in regular season NFL games?
I can find plenty of examples of players who stepped in during the regular season who looked good but didn't develop into players.
It's a small sample for Nassib. However, there were plenty of things to like about the guy from that ONE game. I don't care who he was throwing to or playing against. He can't control that. The things he could control are the things I looked at and I thought he was pretty damn impressive.
You can misrepresent my position, if that makes you feel better.
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In comment 12436520 Mr. Bungle said:
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Well, it should. If he had to play in a regular season game, he wouldn't be facing preseason game backups.
He would also be throwing to Beckham, Cruz, Randle, Donnell, Harris, Vereen instead of Washington, Parker, Davis, Robinson, Darkwa/Hunt.
Right. Which makes it difficult to draw any substantial conclusions about what he would or could do in the regular season, were the Giants required to rely on him.
I remember watching Brady Quinn come into the second half of a Jets/Browns preseason game his rookie year. He looked poised, moved well, and threw accurate passes to the correct receiving option. I remember thinking, "Wow, the Browns might have something here with Quinn."
Then the rest of his career happened.
I don't dislike Nassib -- I root for him because he's a Giant. But even if he did some things well in a preseason game, I have to factor in the game circumstances.
Mr Bungle I remember that game as well and I remember every at ESPN gushing about his performance. What he did on every throw was throw to his check down receiver. I remember being shocked at all the love he was getting when all of his passes were under 10 yards and could be made by an QB in the NFL.
Now with that Nassib has to work on displaying more touch on some of his passes especially the short passes where sometimes he puts too much heat on the ball. He also got away with a pass that he threw into double coverage which he will not always get away with. Nassib also needs to learn how to slide and avoid contact. The negative part about his competitiveness is that he wants to get every yard and he isn't afraid to put his body in harms way.
The truth is I really like Nassib a lot and I was thrilled when he was picked even though at the time I really wanted Shamarko Thomas. I don't get the frustration and anger shown by so many fans when the Giants take a chance on a developmental QB. I am fine with the team using a mid to late round pick on a QB that may develop into a starting QB because they could be flipped for higher picks while also serving as a valuable backup. If they don't work out then no big deal because how often do late round picks pan out? For every Bradshaw there is a Drew Strojny, Stoney Woodson etc.
And last year Giants had the 9th pick. So what's your point?