Is making much headway in terms of being an every down player.
This just my opinion and not really based on anything but i think if the Giants didnt have Kennard i think they would use Moore in that attacking, Kiwanuka joker role...Spags spoke very highly of Moore...
If Beason is out for longer than they expect i would move Kennard to middle or Weakside and put moore at the joker position and let Kennard roam from the weakside...
3:28 p.m. The offensive and defensive linemen are off on a side field (far away from the media so it's hard to see). Odighizuwa fares well vs. Cleary. He beats him with speed. Moore gets matched against Ereck Flowers and shows an impressive burst. He beats Flowers rather easily with a quick inside move.
3:34 p.m. More team drills. Odighizuwa gets stonewalled by Cleary on his first rep. He overpowers Cleary on the next.
3:38 p.m. Finally Moore sneaks in with the first team at left defensive end, one of his few live reps of the day, even if the Giants offense is running cards (mimicking the Jets offense). Twice in a row the offense runs play-action. Moore stays in his gap and protects the edge both times. It's a promising sign. He's struggled with that in the past.
Is making much headway in terms of being an every down player.
And this is based on limited snaps in 2 preseason games? If the Giants coaches release any looks of blitz schemes with the joker role, etc in the preseason, they are then no more qualified than the casual fan to run a portion of this team.
I wouldn't be as concerned if he didn't need the reps with the other new starters to build chemistry, but this is a new line that needs reps together. I'm sure he'll be back for next week, but still concerning.
I wouldn't be as concerned if he didn't need the reps with the other new starters to build chemistry, but this is a new line that needs reps together. I'm sure he'll be back for next week, but still concerning.
Rest now if it means consistent health later. No benefit to chemistry if he develops a nagging injury that creates an in and out of the lineup situation
will the Osi press conference be held live anywhere like on MSG
for a day, then disappear for a week, need to be let go and replaced with able bodies, regardless of skill level ... chalk it up as "mistakes" gambling on guys with poor histories ...
for a day, then disappear for a week, need to be let go and replaced with able bodies, regardless of skill level ... chalk it up as "mistakes" gambling on guys with poor histories ...
Apart from a game missed due to a concussion in his first game, Berhe pretty much played a full season each year. GS 2010: 12 2011: 13 2012: 13 2014: 13
Hosley practicing (not sure that's a good thing)
Collins , Berhe and Taylor working.
Chykie Brown is healing up...he was on sideline yesterday. Randle back practicing, Prince back practicing.
I think people were definitely losing perspective on the Thompson and B. Jackson injuries. Yes its sucks for them, and yes they were in the mix in terms of playing time and possible starting, but you can't get too worked about about 2 guys who have never played in an NFL game.
Hosley practicing (not sure that's a good thing)
Collins , Berhe and Taylor working.
Chykie Brown is healing up...he was on sideline yesterday. Randle back practicing, Prince back practicing.
I think people were definitely losing perspective on the Thompson and B. Jackson injuries. Yes its sucks for them, and yes they were in the mix in terms of playing time and possible starting, but you can't get too worked about about 2 guys who have never played in an NFL game.
Newhouse is not hurt too seriously, he had a good game last week. If he is going to miss significant time, the Giants should give Long another call, unless they want to have two rookie starting tackles.
Great to hear Cooper Taylor looks good today. He and Berhe need to step up. Hopefully Berhe did not have a setback.
Hosley practicing (not sure that's a good thing)
Collins , Berhe and Taylor working.
Chykie Brown is healing up...he was on sideline yesterday. Randle back practicing, Prince back practicing.
I think people were definitely losing perspective on the Thompson and B. Jackson injuries. Yes its sucks for them, and yes they were in the mix in terms of playing time and possible starting, but you can't get too worked about about 2 guys who have never played in an NFL game.
You're also omitting the 2 biggest injuries: JPP and Beatty
the injuries in the secondary.... but if cruz doesn't play, it won't matter who's back there.
?? I lost you. How does Cruz impact our secondary?
We will need to outscore teams. and with randle banged up, parker looking awful.... we need cruz desperately. he is the most important injury right now sans jpp.
the injuries in the secondary.... but if cruz doesn't play, it won't matter who's back there.
?? I lost you. How does Cruz impact our secondary?
We will need to outscore teams. and with randle banged up, parker looking awful.... we need cruz desperately. he is the most important injury right now sans jpp.
Ahh, now I gotcha. And I agree. I am not too worried about Cruz yet though. I'm actually more worried that Randle's knees are going to be a problem all year. Sure hope not.
Beatty loss is much bigger. Much harder to replace.
Offense has Vereen to offset Cruz. They can move him into slot. We aloe have Donnell and Harris who can take on bigger pass catching roles if Cruz can't go.
This just my opinion and not really based on anything but i think if the Giants didnt have Kennard i think they would use Moore in that attacking, Kiwanuka joker role...Spags spoke very highly of Moore...
If Beason is out for longer than they expect i would move Kennard to middle or Weakside and put moore at the joker position and let Kennard roam from the weakside...
3:34 p.m. More team drills. Odighizuwa gets stonewalled by Cleary on his first rep. He overpowers Cleary on the next.
3:38 p.m. Finally Moore sneaks in with the first team at left defensive end, one of his few live reps of the day, even if the Giants offense is running cards (mimicking the Jets offense). Twice in a row the offense runs play-action. Moore stays in his gap and protects the edge both times. It's a promising sign. He's struggled with that in the past.
I want to see him do it again this week, lat week was against his former team so there was some extra motivation...
Me personally i would go with Kennard Thomas and Casillas as my LBs...passing downs move Kennard to DE and rush off the edge....
I think those 3 are your 3 most athletic LBs, Mcclain is to slow at this point...
And this is based on limited snaps in 2 preseason games? If the Giants coaches release any looks of blitz schemes with the joker role, etc in the preseason, they are then no more qualified than the casual fan to run a portion of this team.
Rest now if it means consistent health later. No benefit to chemistry if he develops a nagging injury that creates an in and out of the lineup situation
You don't have a lot to offer on this forum, do you?
Stop being an asshole and go fuck yourself while you're at it.
No practice for Victor Cruz, Weston Richburg, George Selvie, Chykie Brown #giants
Jordan Raanan @JordanRaanan 7m7 minutes ago
CB Jayron Hosley back practicing #Giants
Jordan Raanan @JordanRaanan 6m6 minutes ago
LB Mark Herzlich also remains out w/concussion. Not even at point of working out with trainer on side field #Giants
Nat Berhe not out here practicing. Had returned Tuesday/late last week from calf injury. Not a good sign. #Giants
WR Preston Parker catching everything today. Just reeled in a deep ball from Eli Manning. #Giants
WR Preston Parker catching everything today. Just reeled in a deep ball from Eli Manning. #Giants
Parker catches everything in practice this year but seems to drop everything so far in the games.
Berhe is a head shaker.
I like that guy. Tough and scrappy.
Larry Izzo was just calling for Berhe in special team drill. Didn't realize he's not out on field. Sounds like they expected him to practice
Apart from a game missed due to a concussion in his first game, Berhe pretty much played a full season each year. GS 2010: 12 2011: 13 2012: 13 2014: 13
Good coverage by Jayron Hosley in red zone drill vs Geremy Davis #giants
Odell Beckhan vs Jayron Hosley. Not fair. TD
This D-line unit looks fun: Odighizuwa, Jenkins, Ayers, Damontre.
Interception! First one of today's practice belongs to Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie! #Giants
DRC with interception of Nassib. Trevin Wade INT of Stanzi #giants
Uh oh. Marshall Newhouse is down and grabbing his left ankle/foot.
Things just got real quiet in East Rutherford. Giants OT Marshall Newhouse injured, can hardly put weight on...
Hosley practicing (not sure that's a good thing)
Collins , Berhe and Taylor working.
Chykie Brown is healing up...he was on sideline yesterday. Randle back practicing, Prince back practicing.
I think people were definitely losing perspective on the Thompson and B. Jackson injuries. Yes its sucks for them, and yes they were in the mix in terms of playing time and possible starting, but you can't get too worked about about 2 guys who have never played in an NFL game.
Hosley practicing (not sure that's a good thing)
Collins , Berhe and Taylor working.
Chykie Brown is healing up...he was on sideline yesterday. Randle back practicing, Prince back practicing.
I think people were definitely losing perspective on the Thompson and B. Jackson injuries. Yes its sucks for them, and yes they were in the mix in terms of playing time and possible starting, but you can't get too worked about about 2 guys who have never played in an NFL game.
and just as I type that...Newhouse goes down.
Cooper Taylor having a nice day. Moving better. Blew up screen pass earlier #Giants
Great to hear Cooper Taylor looks good today. He and Berhe need to step up. Hopefully Berhe did not have a setback.
Newhouse has left foot/ankle wrapped #giants
?? I lost you. How does Cruz impact our secondary?
Hosley practicing (not sure that's a good thing)
Collins , Berhe and Taylor working.
Chykie Brown is healing up...he was on sideline yesterday. Randle back practicing, Prince back practicing.
I think people were definitely losing perspective on the Thompson and B. Jackson injuries. Yes its sucks for them, and yes they were in the mix in terms of playing time and possible starting, but you can't get too worked about about 2 guys who have never played in an NFL game.
You're also omitting the 2 biggest injuries: JPP and Beatty
If its a foot....it always takes time with olineman.
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the injuries in the secondary.... but if cruz doesn't play, it won't matter who's back there.
?? I lost you. How does Cruz impact our secondary?
We will need to outscore teams. and with randle banged up, parker looking awful.... we need cruz desperately. he is the most important injury right now sans jpp.
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the injuries in the secondary.... but if cruz doesn't play, it won't matter who's back there.
?? I lost you. How does Cruz impact our secondary?
We will need to outscore teams. and with randle banged up, parker looking awful.... we need cruz desperately. he is the most important injury right now sans jpp.
Ahh, now I gotcha. And I agree. I am not too worried about Cruz yet though. I'm actually more worried that Randle's knees are going to be a problem all year. Sure hope not.
Offense has Vereen to offset Cruz. They can move him into slot. We aloe have Donnell and Harris who can take on bigger pass catching roles if Cruz can't go.