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NFT: Two Reporters Shot

Big Al : 8/26/2015 9:10 am
and killed on air in Virginia.
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Deej, it's not so much that...  
okiegiant : 8/26/2015 11:38 am : link
I think it's more about trying to follow a fluid and breaking story without wading around a bunch of comments from both sides of the debate. These comments may have everything to do with the reason for this story but little to do with actually following it right now.

There is a time and place for everything.
Deej  
UConn4523 : 8/26/2015 11:38 am : link
It's somsimple to start their own thread, so why not do it and leave the news thread for what it's intended for? The reason is hide people against guns want to jump on every opportunity and doing it on these kinds of threads is such poor taste. This is a horrific crime and people want to make it about them, it's bullshit.

Start a thread and have at it, it's just too easy I know.
Wait is that what you're referring to?  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/26/2015 11:39 am : link
I think I misread your post and thought you meant the news feed.

If so, I think it's the lingering and first-person shooting that people are so creeped out by.
RE: I dont have much opinion in the gun control debate  
steve in ky : 8/26/2015 11:39 am : link
In comment 12436377 Deej said:
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other than being against an outright ban on gun ownership.

But it's always funny to see how the pro-gun side's blood boils at even having to see pro-control statements. The fucking thread police over here, telling people where they can and cant talk about gun control.


I'm not pro-gun and would even like to see some stricter gun laws enacted and I don't like these types of threads getting cluttered with cross arguments amongst the ongoing topic of the thread. Also in my opinion seems a little boorish to immediately post what is basically a political point of view when a thread about someone having just been murdered is started.
His POV twitter video didn't show people dying  
Torrag : 8/26/2015 11:40 am : link
It was the precursor and ends with the reporter running away as she realizes what is happening. This guy needs killing.
RE: They probably didn't even think to look at him  
MookGiants : 8/26/2015 11:40 am : link
In comment 12436380 Mike in Long Beach said:
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He obviously worked for the station so he was just there. He could've been on his phone for all they knew. They were live on the air.


He was no longer working for the station
It's all over YouTube  
Kevin in CT : 8/26/2015 11:41 am : link
I watched it once and regret doing so.
reports say its over  
Greg from LI : 8/26/2015 11:41 am : link
WHSVnews @WHSVnews 4m4 minutes ago
#BREAKING Reports: Alleged #WDBJ shooter Vester Flanagan has shot himself: http://bit.ly/1WSnGE0

I just got a text saying he killed himself  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/26/2015 11:41 am : link
Can anyone confirm?
This whole thing is sick and very tragic  
micky : 8/26/2015 11:41 am : link
prayers to family. Gun law fights on this thread is also pathetic.
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Britt in VA : 8/26/2015 11:42 am : link
Kenneth Howe ‏@KWesleyHowe 3m3 minutes ago
After long silence on radio VA State Police just broadcast a "Disregard suspect and vehicle" to all units in @WDBJ7 shooting.
Coward offed himself?  
Torrag : 8/26/2015 11:43 am : link
Good. At least he saved the taxpayers the cost of the bullet. So saddened for the victims, their families and friends.
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Mike in Long Beach : 8/26/2015 11:43 am : link
In comment 12436406 Britt in VA said:
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Kenneth Howe ‏@KWesleyHowe 3m3 minutes ago
After long silence on radio VA State Police just broadcast a "Disregard suspect and vehicle" to all units in @WDBJ7 shooting.


What does that mean??
Fucking coward.  
Britt in VA : 8/26/2015 11:43 am : link
Jim Russ ‏@JimWBALTraffic 1m1 minute ago
VA St PD Radio traffic; Suspect who shot himself while being chased on I 66 east of I 81 in Front Royal is dead. Wanted in @WDBJ7 shooting
I'm going to miller up the thread here and say that  
oghwga : 8/26/2015 11:45 am : link
although this isn't a football thread, it's one of the things that make BBI great. I got more news and links here than from CNN or Reddit.

I'm going over to Paypal and making my donation right now. If any of you on this thread haven't yet done so, maybe this thread will motivate you.
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Better that the coward killed himself  
Torrag : 8/26/2015 11:45 am : link
At least the police won't be put in harms way apprehending him.
it means that the pursuit's over because the asshole is dead  
Greg from LI : 8/26/2015 11:46 am : link
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oghwga  
Bob in Vt : 8/26/2015 11:47 am : link
Well said
RE: Deej, it's not so much that...  
Deej : 8/26/2015 11:48 am : link
In comment 12436390 okiegiant said:
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I think it's more about trying to follow a fluid and breaking story without wading around a bunch of comments from both sides of the debate. These comments may have everything to do with the reason for this story but little to do with actually following it right now.

There is a time and place for everything.


BBI is a discussion forum, not a news agency. Im not sure why the wake of gun violence would be considered not an appropriate time to discuss gun violence in this country. Actually, I really cant fathom why it is not precisely the right time and place for this discussion.

UConn: You say that this thread was intended as a news thread. I dont agree. That's not how BBI works anyway. Look at any thread.

Steve: gun control is not a "political point of view" just because the dominant political parties have largely lined up on opposite sides of the issue. It is a question of public policy.
RE: instead  
jcn56 : 8/26/2015 11:48 am : link
In comment 12436387 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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of Facebook and Twitter deleting his pages, they should keep them live but invisible to the public so that they can use his location services to track him as he keeps posting.

Though, I suppose that LE can use the gps in his phone anyway.


Paul - social media services have capabilities to work with LE without the pages remaining public.
I just watched the POV video on YouTube  
Danny Kanell : 8/26/2015 11:48 am : link
No idea why I did and I really wish I didn't.
I still can't believe seeing those posts popping up on twitter right  
Greg from LI : 8/26/2015 11:49 am : link
before my eyes.
What keywords  
Fish : 8/26/2015 11:49 am : link
Did you use to search for video on youtube
Fish bottom feeding  
Torrag : 8/26/2015 11:50 am : link
Sick.
RE: What keywords  
Danny Kanell : 8/26/2015 11:51 am : link
In comment 12436427 Fish said:
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Did you use to search for video on youtube


Vester Flanagan
RE: I just watched the POV video on YouTube  
MookGiants : 8/26/2015 11:51 am : link
In comment 12436424 Danny Kanell said:
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No idea why I did and I really wish I didn't.


Same. It actually made me jump out of my seat. Chilling sensation throughout my body. Awful. Should have listened to others and stayed off of twitter
This has been one of the most disturbing things I've seen unfold, live  
Britt in VA : 8/26/2015 11:52 am : link
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Deej  
UConn4523 : 8/26/2015 11:52 am : link
think what you want man, not going to argue. If you don't think bringing up gun control on these threads isn't poor taste then I don't know what to tell you. It's nothing more than an opportunistic avenue for peole that can't help themselves. It's embarassing. As I said, start another thread. Those of us that want to follow the story and not the banter will be able to do so in peace.
That's the video that stops just as he aims the gun?  
jcn56 : 8/26/2015 11:52 am : link
That was some terrible shit.
Yep I went there in a knee jerk reaction and clicked play  
Torrag : 8/26/2015 11:53 am : link
I regret it. People searching this out should rethink it. You don't want to see this.
Initial Report he shot himself.  
Big Al : 8/26/2015 11:53 am : link
Let's see if this is confirmed.
RE: RE: Deej, it's not so much that...  
steve in ky : 8/26/2015 11:54 am : link
In comment 12436420 Deej said:
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In comment 12436390 okiegiant said:


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Steve: gun control is not a "political point of view" just because the dominant political parties have largely lined up on opposite sides of the issue. It is a question of public policy.


Semantics, it still is rude immediately try to make points about a controversial public policy on a thread started about someone just murdered. And it also is millering and helping to derail the ongoing discussion. Why not simply start another thread?
Absolute madness  
regulator : 8/26/2015 11:54 am : link
What a sick, sick individual.
YouTube video  
walm0 : 8/26/2015 11:54 am : link
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This is a perfect storm  
buford : 8/26/2015 11:54 am : link
of social media, violence and mental illness. Sort of sums up our society these days.
it doesn't stop when he aims  
Greg from LI : 8/26/2015 11:56 am : link
you see the first three shots before he drops his phone
RE: That's the video that stops just as he aims the gun?  
MookGiants : 8/26/2015 11:56 am : link
In comment 12436440 jcn56 said:
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That was some terrible shit.


There's another where you actually see the gun pointed and him shooting the reporter.
I feel really sorry  
sshin05 : 8/26/2015 11:56 am : link
for the victims. RIP
I'm not posting it here  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/26/2015 11:57 am : link
But yes, if you search Vester Flannagan in youtube it's still up.

I have no words.
RE: That's the video that stops just as he aims the gun?  
Danny Kanell : 8/26/2015 11:57 am : link
In comment 12436440 jcn56 said:
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That was some terrible shit.


There's a longer version that doesn't stop when he aims the gun.
The unedited POV video has the shooter walk up, aim his weapon at the  
regulator : 8/26/2015 11:57 am : link
female reporter, step back, take aim again, and shows the shooter discharge his weapon several times at the reporter, at a range of just a few feet, presumably striking her before she begins to run away.

Absolutely surreal. I do not recommend watching. Just sickening.
RE: RE: That's the video that stops just as he aims the gun?  
jcn56 : 8/26/2015 11:58 am : link
In comment 12436459 Danny Kanell said:
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In comment 12436440 jcn56 said:


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That was some terrible shit.



There's a longer version that doesn't stop when he aims the gun.


OK, I'm glad I didn't see that one, I thought the edited version was bad enough.
I get why people are saying 'don't watch it.'  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/26/2015 11:59 am : link
But as sickened as I am right now, I don't like to shield my eyes from these things.

And to reiterate, this is as disgusted as I've been by a news story.

These videos hammer it home though. You don't truly understand it unless you see it. I get not wanting to, but I do.
They're right to take down those videos  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/26/2015 11:59 am : link
It's disturbing for normal people, and fuel for the next on-deck sicko waiting for his chance.
Disturbing, Hell yes.  
ballanda : 8/26/2015 12:00 pm : link
But anyone who thinks that video is graphic needs to go check out LiveLeak.com
buford  
Modus Operandi : 8/26/2015 12:00 pm : link
You do realize that simply because an individual commits a reprehensible act, it doesn't necessarily mean that they're mentally ill? In fact, most mentally ill individuals are non violent.

Your assumption promulgates the stigma of mental illness.
Not to nitpick  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/26/2015 12:01 pm : link
and I'm sure he's dead or will be dead.

But the reports are only indicating as of now that he's shot himself. Not that he's dead.
RE: buford  
buford : 8/26/2015 12:02 pm : link
In comment 12436467 Modus Operandi said:
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You do realize that simply because an individual commits a reprehensible act, it doesn't necessarily mean that they're mentally ill? In fact, most mentally ill individuals are non violent.

Your assumption promulgates the stigma of mental illness.


Sorry, but anyone who would do something like this has issues related to mental illness. That doesn't mean that all mentally ill people commit crimes.
"Poor taste"  
Deej : 8/26/2015 12:02 pm : link
apparently means dont talk about whether we can reduce violence if it interrupts our murder porn.

I mean that's what this is, right? It's not like this was a breaking story that we all needed to follow, right? For 95+% of BBI (ie everyone outside that area), this is just another murder on the news. I certainly didnt refresh this thread because I NEEDED to know what was going on hundreds of miles away with respect to 2 of the ~40 murders/day in this country.
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arcarsenal : 8/26/2015 12:02 pm : link
It's crazy that she didn't notice him aiming the gun the first time at all. She was obviously focused on the camera but it looks like he was so close and in her peripheral vision... just so fucked up. I can't believe this happened. Sickening.
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