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Big Al : 8/26/2015 9:10 am
and killed on air in Virginia.
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Wuphat : 8/26/2015 12:03 pm : link
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Sorry, but anyone who would do something like this has issues related to mental illness.


Is that your expert medical opinion?
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LS : 8/26/2015 12:04 pm : link
In comment 12436211 jeff57 said:
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The US has the highest gun ownership rate in the world - an average of 88 per 100 people. That puts it first in the world for gun ownership - and even the number two country, Yemen, has significantly fewer - 54.8 per 100 people
• But the US does not have the worst firearm murder rate - that prize belongs to Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica. In fact, the US is number 28, with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people
• Puerto Rico tops the world's table for firearms murders as a percentage of all homicides - 94.8%. It's followed by Sierra Leone in Africa and Saint Kitts and Nevis in the Caribbean
I'm no buford fan  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/26/2015 12:04 pm : link
but let this one go. Nothing wrong with her initial statement.
The news director for WDBJ7 just said that...  
Britt in VA : 8/26/2015 12:05 pm : link
the killer was fired two years ago for numerous complaints against him. Said that he was "always looking for comments to take offense to", and filed a claim against the station for discrimination which was dismissed.

It was also said that he filed a lawsuit against a former news station that he had been employed with for something similar.
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Modus Operandi : 8/26/2015 12:05 pm : link
In comment 12436470 buford said:
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In comment 12436467 Modus Operandi said:


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You do realize that simply because an individual commits a reprehensible act, it doesn't necessarily mean that they're mentally ill? In fact, most mentally ill individuals are non violent.

Your assumption promulgates the stigma of mental illness.



Sorry, but anyone who would do something like this has issues related to mental illness. That doesn't mean that all mentally ill people commit crimes.


And you've diagnosed the patient via twitter/youtube, leaning on your many, many years of being wrong about virtually everything you've ever opened your mouth up about.

You are not a practitioner, nor are you qualified to make such an assessment.
Shooter is NOT dead.  
Britt in VA : 8/26/2015 12:06 pm : link
per VA State Police, has a pulse, in very critical condition.
RE: Not to nitpick  
Greg from LI : 8/26/2015 12:06 pm : link
In comment 12436469 Mike in Long Beach said:
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and I'm sure he's dead or will be dead.

But the reports are only indicating as of now that he's shot himself. Not that he's dead.


He's dead. I was listening to the VSP on the scanner
hah  
Greg from LI : 8/26/2015 12:06 pm : link
That's what I get for believing the radio
Ignore those millering the thread  
Torrag : 8/26/2015 12:07 pm : link
Everytime time you engage them no matter how calmly and sensibly it gives them another excuse to forward their agenda.
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Mr. Bungle : 8/26/2015 12:07 pm : link
In comment 12436473 arcarsenal said:
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It's crazy that she didn't notice him aiming the gun the first time at all. She was obviously focused on the camera but it looks like he was so close and in her peripheral vision... just so fucked up. I can't believe this happened. Sickening.

I understand what you're saying, but imagine if every news reporter on location glanced off to the side whenever someone was in peripheral vision? It wouldn't broadcast well, and their job could possibly be compromised if they didn't clean up that habit. Often, bystanders like to just wander near a live news broadcast and watch or try to drift into camera view. This guy being a former employee may well have considered how easy it would be to walk up and commit the act without any recognition.
That just came in.  
Britt in VA : 8/26/2015 12:07 pm : link
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what Mr. Bungle said  
Greg from LI : 8/26/2015 12:08 pm : link
The reporter on twitter who was saying about how they focus in on their interview subject or the camera mentioned how there are almost always people wandering around the periphery of a reporter on camera, and you train yourself to completely block them out in order to do your job.
So he's alive??  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/26/2015 12:09 pm : link
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They're saying he's not dead  
kelsto811 : 8/26/2015 12:10 pm : link
but "very critical"
barely  
Britt in VA : 8/26/2015 12:10 pm : link
"very" critical condition.
Wow  
Fish : 8/26/2015 12:10 pm : link
That's crazy shit. Amazes me how we get real time video.
Wouldn't that be great if he lives  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/26/2015 12:11 pm : link
and has to be a quadriplegic in prison the rest of his life?
RE: Wouldn't that be great if he lives  
Greg from LI : 8/26/2015 12:12 pm : link
In comment 12436500 Mike in Long Beach said:
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and has to be a quadriplegic in prison the rest of his life?


As a Virginia taxpayer, I'm not sure why I want my money funding this asshole being kept alive.
wait  
PaulBlakeTSU : 8/26/2015 12:13 pm : link
88 guns per 100 people, or 88 gun-owners? I can't imagine that 88% of the population owns a gun.
He's still alive?  
Torrag : 8/26/2015 12:14 pm : link
Too bad and hopefully not for long.
You're trained to look into the camera and ignore  
Peter in Atl : 8/26/2015 12:15 pm : link
everything else. Your eyes shifting back and forth doesn't look good on TV.
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sshin05 : 8/26/2015 12:15 pm : link
In comment 12436506 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 12436500 Mike in Long Beach said:


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and has to be a quadriplegic in prison the rest of his life?



As a Virginia taxpayer, I'm not sure why I want my money funding this asshole being kept alive.


He needs to answer for his crimes and punished accordingly. There needs to be justice for what's happened.
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Greg from LI : 8/26/2015 12:16 pm : link
In comment 12436508 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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88 guns per 100 people, or 88 gun-owners? I can't imagine that 88% of the population owns a gun.


Many people own multiple guns
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arcarsenal : 8/26/2015 12:16 pm : link
Yeah, I guess it's less that I actually expected her to see him and more that I just can't believe someone could be that close, pointing a gun and just go completely undetected. It's surreal. Didn't even fire it the first time either.

Terrible.
Greg  
Deej : 8/26/2015 12:16 pm : link
Taxes are an inherently political issue. Please stop ruining the thread.
Someone that's twisted enough to do this  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/26/2015 12:17 pm : link
isn't gonna learn a lesson with a trial and imprisonment

In cases like this, I question whether trial and incarceration is even worth it.
arc  
PaulBlakeTSU : 8/26/2015 12:21 pm : link
it's amazing how much we miss in our periphery when we focus.
"Never let a good tragedy go to waste"  
Bill L : 8/26/2015 12:22 pm : link
And I guess in between time, hope another one comes along.
Terrible tragedy...  
RC02XX : 8/26/2015 12:22 pm : link
and some of you are acting like petulant five year olds. Grow up.
RE: Someone that's twisted enough to do this  
Deej : 8/26/2015 12:23 pm : link
In comment 12436521 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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isn't gonna learn a lesson with a trial and imprisonment

In cases like this, I question whether trial and incarceration is even worth it.


Why is this guy substantially more twisted than all of the other people in this country who commit premeditated murder. It gets back to Buford's point, which she was unfairly jumped on for. There's something deeply wrong with premeditated murder. Whether it is mental illness or something else, I dont know, but normal people dont do this shit. Though if you chalk it up to mental illness then arent you saying that people like this shouldnt be convicted?

But IMO we dont incarcerate people for rehabilitation for the most part -- indeed of the 4 main justifications for incarceration I'd say rehab is dead last behind punishment, segregation, and deterrence.
I really just want this guy to endure  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/26/2015 12:24 pm : link
prolonged suffering. He's really tapped into the worst in me, but it's how I feel at this moment.
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Ten Ton Hammer : 8/26/2015 12:28 pm : link
In comment 12436537 Deej said:
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isn't gonna learn a lesson with a trial and imprisonment

In cases like this, I question whether trial and incarceration is even worth it.



Why is this guy substantially more twisted than all of the other people in this country who commit premeditated murder. It gets back to Buford's point, which she was unfairly jumped on for. There's something deeply wrong with premeditated murder. Whether it is mental illness or something else, I dont know, but normal people dont do this shit. Though if you chalk it up to mental illness then arent you saying that people like this shouldnt be convicted?

But IMO we dont incarcerate people for rehabilitation for the most part -- indeed of the 4 main justifications for incarceration I'd say rehab is dead last behind punishment, segregation, and deterrence.


The idea that he would film himself in the very act of doing it, to me, speaks volumes about how little redeeming value this person's continued existence is worth.

If that's savage of me, I'll live with the accusation, but this guy is too far gone. Put him in prison and he'll probably kill someone else.
OMG!!!  
Peter in Atl : 8/26/2015 12:28 pm : link
Someone I don't know shot and killed someone else who I don't know! This never happens! I'm outraged! I want more suffering!
Dumbest post of the day by a wide margin....  
Torrag : 8/26/2015 12:30 pm : link
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OMG!!!
Peter in Atl : 12:28 pm : link : reply
Someone I don't know shot and killed someone else who I don't know! This never happens! I'm outraged! I want more suffering!


Congrats.
RE: OMG!!!  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/26/2015 12:32 pm : link
In comment 12436547 Peter in Atl said:
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Someone I don't know shot and killed someone else who I don't know! This never happens! I'm outraged! I want more suffering!


You are truly are a disgusting individual.
I think Peter's post is fair commentary  
Deej : 8/26/2015 12:33 pm : link
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step on his wound....  
GMAN4LIFE : 8/26/2015 12:33 pm : link
fuck him... those two didnt deserve death for his racism allegations
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Peter in Atl : 8/26/2015 12:33 pm : link
In comment 12436555 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Someone I don't know shot and killed someone else who I don't know! This never happens! I'm outraged! I want more suffering!



You are truly are a disgusting individual.


You're the one with the blood lust and I'm disgusting?
RE: OMG!!!  
illmatic : 8/26/2015 12:33 pm : link
In comment 12436547 Peter in Atl said:
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Someone I don't know shot and killed someone else who I don't know! This never happens! I'm outraged! I want more suffering!


I really think they should be a lot more strict with the banhammer on this site. People get away with way too much on here for way too long. And I really think this is a banworthy post.
RE: Dumbest post of the day by a wide margin....  
Danny Kanell : 8/26/2015 12:34 pm : link
In comment 12436550 Torrag said:
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OMG!!!
Peter in Atl : 12:28 pm : link : reply
Someone I don't know shot and killed someone else who I don't know! This never happens! I'm outraged! I want more suffering!



Congrats.


Not surprising. He's the Rich Houston of BBI assholes.
RE: I think Peter's post is fair commentary  
MookGiants : 8/26/2015 12:34 pm : link
In comment 12436559 Deej said:
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It's somewhat fair, but in typical Peter fashion no matter the subject he always comes off as an asshole
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arcarsenal : 8/26/2015 12:36 pm : link
He does have a point.. just decided to go about it in an insensitive, douchebaggy way.
I've never seen a point less eloquently attempted.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/26/2015 12:36 pm : link
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Not sure what his point is  
illmatic : 8/26/2015 12:37 pm : link
other than trolling people's reactions to a tragedy.
RE: RE: OMG!!!  
BrettNYG10 : 8/26/2015 12:37 pm : link
In comment 12436563 illmatic said:
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Someone I don't know shot and killed someone else who I don't know! This never happens! I'm outraged! I want more suffering!



I really think they should be a lot more strict with the banhammer on this site. People get away with way too much on here for way too long. And I really think this is a banworthy post.


That isn't banworthy at all.
RE: I've never seen a point less eloquently attempted.  
Peter in Atl : 8/26/2015 12:37 pm : link
In comment 12436569 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Says the guy who admits he's a savage.
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Mike in Long Beach : 8/26/2015 12:38 pm : link
In comment 12436568 arcarsenal said:
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He does have a point.. just decided to go about it in an insensitive, douchebaggy way.


He doesn't have a point. Yes people get shot every day. It doesn't usually happen on live television and then get posted AGAIN to the internet by the shooter.

To suggest that this is the same as any other murder not only is unbelievably stupid, but also trivializes the idea that those other, less-publicized murders don't deserve outrage.

And even if he did have a point (he sure as fuck doesn't) to actually say it speaks to his bottom-feeding character. He truly is one of those people who just has nothing good to offer.
RE: RE: I've never seen a point less eloquently attempted.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/26/2015 12:40 pm : link
In comment 12436574 Peter in Atl said:
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Says the guy who admits he's a savage.


You are the mark twain of our time.
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arcarsenal : 8/26/2015 12:42 pm : link
In comment 12436577 Mike in Long Beach said:
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He does have a point.. just decided to go about it in an insensitive, douchebaggy way.



He doesn't have a point. Yes people get shot every day. It doesn't usually happen on live television and then get posted AGAIN to the internet by the shooter.

To suggest that this is the same as any other murder not only is unbelievably stupid, but also trivializes the idea that those other, less-publicized murders don't deserve outrage.

And even if he did have a point (he sure as fuck doesn't) to actually say it speaks to his bottom-feeding character. He truly is one of those people who just has nothing good to offer.


What is your context, exactly? Are all murders televised? How do you know this is different and how do you determine it's worse?

Murder is murder. It doesn't matter how it happens. It's a terrible thing for someone to do regardless of how they do it. People react more strongly to something they actually witness or see happen. It's natural. When you hear about murder on the news, you brush it off because you don't know anything about the people involved or how it went down. That doesn't mean it was any less savage or criminal.
buford  
bc4life : 8/26/2015 12:43 pm : link
It won't be long before we find out if he had any documented mental health issues. I can understand why you might think that, regardless of whether your suspicions turn out to be accurate or not.

There are some people who are just so unreasonably difficult in the workplace, social settings, etc. - that it makes you think there must be something else going on besides them just being hypersensitive or just a jerk. By difficult I am referring to the early reports of his issues at several workplaces.

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