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I thought we led the league in injuries already

I Love Clams Casino : 8/27/2015 1:56 pm
and posted the question the other day - I was met with a bunch of "meh, seems evenly distributed so far" type responses

This seems to confirm what I was thinking
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You asked about..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/27/2015 2:00 pm : link
this year. Based on this year, I looked at 5 other teams to see how many players missed playing time. Out of them, the Panthers, Cowboys and Patriots have all had more players miss time with injuries.

Otherwise, there really isn't much of a quantitative way to tell.
that article does not confirm  
Rocky369 : 8/27/2015 2:01 pm : link
that the Giants lead the league in injuries this year.
Giants may have a bunch of injuries  
nygiants16 : 8/27/2015 2:02 pm : link
but the only real big one is Jackson...

Cruz made it seem like he will be fine for Dallas...

Beason will be back week 1 or shortly there after

Newhouse is fine...

Collins is fine...

berhe is out but really we ahve been talking about him not making the team...

Id much rather have the Giants injuries then all the Cowboys injuries or losing a star WR like the Panthers and Packers...
All teams have injuries  
djstat : 8/27/2015 2:02 pm : link
Hell the redskins already have 2-3 starters on IR.

Being injured and missing part of camp is different then missing the whole season.

That said, I think the strength and conditioning approach needs to be looked at. As does the team trainer
Nice part at the bottom....  
WideRight : 8/27/2015 2:02 pm : link
"How Eli Manning remains the NFL’s reigning iron man with 167 consecutive starts while playing for this snakebitten franchise is as puzzling as the Giants’ three-year injury blizzard itself."

Sums it up pretty well. The number of injuries has been high, but the distribution of key injuries is not.
Watch the Cowboys this year  
WideRight : 8/27/2015 2:05 pm : link
They have a very good team, and will probably be "healthier" than the Giants.

They will more than likely suffer a key injury to Romo or a running back that will ruin their chances.
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arcarsenal : 8/27/2015 2:06 pm : link
The mistake people keep making is that they're trying to blanket injuries with one number.

It doesn't take into account severity, whether the player is significant or camp fodder, whether he is simply sitting out as a precaution, etc.

What's happening is posters are focusing solely on Giants camp and no one else's and are getting frustrated each time we have a player go down with an injury of any degree and so they're searching for any sort of "confirmation" that it's simply worse here than anywhere else even though an accurate number isn't really going to exist.

You'd have to do quite a bit of leg work to get a truly accurate assessment.
RE: Watch the Cowboys this year  
nygiants16 : 8/27/2015 2:06 pm : link
In comment 12438428 WideRight said:
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They have a very good team, and will probably be "healthier" than the Giants.

They will more than likely suffer a key injury to Romo or a running back that will ruin their chances.


Cowboys already have a key injury in their secondary losing their best corner...

They also have injuries on the OL...although i think those injuries will allow players to return by week 1
The more distressing point..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/27/2015 2:08 pm : link
is that injuries are clustering around a position. That's really what has killed the Giants the past couple of years. When Andre Williams got significant carries and sometimes was the only healthy back in the game, that's a problem. Our DB's have been decimated as well.

When your starters and depth end up being street guys - that isn't good.
well at least  
I Love Clams Casino : 8/27/2015 2:10 pm : link
the Beatty injury is a little less troubling now with the apparent emergence of Flowers
RE: Giants may have a bunch of injuries  
Josh in the City : 8/27/2015 2:12 pm : link
In comment 12438421 nygiants16 said:
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but the only real big one is Jackson...

Cruz made it seem like he will be fine for Dallas...

Beason will be back week 1 or shortly there after

Newhouse is fine...

Collins is fine...

berhe is out but really we ahve been talking about him not making the team...

Id much rather have the Giants injuries then all the Cowboys injuries or losing a star WR like the Panthers and Packers...


Ummm you're missing the fact that we lost our top defensive player and starting LT to injuries OFF the field! Now I can't blame THOSE injuries on TC but it just exacerbates the issue.
Another team for comparison - the Buffalo Bills  
Red Dog : 8/27/2015 2:25 pm : link
The Bills have lost quality defensive depth with DL Jairus Wynn and LB Ty Powell now on IR. They don't have talented CB/KR Leodis McKelvin back from last year yet, either. He's a starter if fully healthy, but he won't be suiting up any time soon.

They have many WRs and RBs nicked up, but most of them look like they will be back by opening day. The one real question mark is Chris Hogan, their 3rd WR last season. They are cautiously optimistic that he will be back too, but time will tell.

Overall, the GIANTS situation is worse at this point with Beatty and JPP very questionable for any meaningful contributions this season, Marcus Harris and Mykkele Thompson on IR, and numerous others nicked up or already released including OFA TE Matt LaCosse who has already recovered enough to sign with the Jets.
RE: The more distressing point..  
Matt M. : 8/27/2015 2:26 pm : link
In comment 12438433 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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is that injuries are clustering around a position. That's really what has killed the Giants the past couple of years. When Andre Williams got significant carries and sometimes was the only healthy back in the game, that's a problem. Our DB's have been decimated as well.

When your starters and depth end up being street guys - that isn't good.
Bingo. Most of these injuries are manageable. The decimation at S with some CB injuries mixed in is what is troubling.
RE: Nice part at the bottom....  
micky : 8/27/2015 2:37 pm : link
In comment 12438425 WideRight said:
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"How Eli Manning remains the NFL’s reigning iron man with 167 consecutive starts while playing for this snakebitten franchise is as puzzling as the Giants’ three-year injury blizzard itself."

Sums it up pretty well. The number of injuries has been high, but the distribution of key injuries is not.


And that may put the whammy on it...
RE: RE: Giants may have a bunch of injuries  
okiegiant : 8/27/2015 2:38 pm : link
In comment 12438443 Josh in the City said:
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In comment 12438421 nygiants16 said:


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but the only real big one is Jackson...

Cruz made it seem like he will be fine for Dallas...

Beason will be back week 1 or shortly there after

Newhouse is fine...

Collins is fine...

berhe is out but really we ahve been talking about him not making the team...

Id much rather have the Giants injuries then all the Cowboys injuries or losing a star WR like the Panthers and Packers...



Ummm you're missing the fact that we lost our top defensive player and starting LT to injuries OFF the field! Now I can't blame THOSE injuries on TC but it just exacerbates the issue.


We can blame injuries on Coughlin? He made Berhe run and injure his calf? He made Cruz tear a tendon? He gave Collins a knee sprain early in a preseason game?

Do we always have to have someone to blame?
I think the nyg injuries have been overblown  
djm : 8/27/2015 2:57 pm : link
But if you subscribe to the belief that today's nicks and bumps will lead to bigger problems down the road then you would be very worried right now. I don't think it's that bad at all but I could see why someone would be nervous right now.

The Giants are just being cautious with some guys. Can't blame them. Hopefully guys are ready for week 1 and stay out there on the field all season long. Seems every year we make it out of camp and preseason somewhat ok, save for one big ones but then by week 5-6 we are decimated at a position or two. That's always been this team's injury problem in my view.
Luckily  
Fish : 8/27/2015 2:58 pm : link
We did not give out BBI trophy this year otherwise you could add a name to injured list. Lol
The DC Football Club has lost five players expected ...  
Boy Cord : 8/27/2015 3:02 pm : link
... to make the roster to IR. Four if you don't think Silas Redd would make it.

Training Camp has been OK knock on wood  
Reale01 : 8/27/2015 3:39 pm : link
The pre-season was brutal with JPP and Beatty but We have not had any serious injuries to starting players in camp. Lots of things where players are expected to return.

I am concerned with Richburg and Beason might be more serious than reported A little concerned with Cruz, Randall, and Collins
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