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sshin05 : 8/27/2015 4:17 pm
Mets

@cgrand3 RF
@ynscspds CF
Murphy 1B
#DavidWright 3B
Johnson 2B
d'Arnaud C
@mconforto8 LF
Tejada SS
Niese P

Phillies

Hernandez 2B
Blanco 3B
Herrera CF
Fracoeur RF
Altherr LF
Ruf 1B
Ruiz C
Galvis SS
Harang P
No Flores - boo!  
speedywheels : 8/27/2015 4:27 pm : link
Keep the foot on the gas, boys...
Let's  
Beezer : 8/27/2015 4:28 pm : link
Go!
.  
arcarsenal : 8/27/2015 4:29 pm : link
It's wild how many lineup variations we can put out there now.. and this is without Duda.
I would have preferred  
ZGiants98 : 8/27/2015 4:36 pm : link
Red hot Cuddyer over Johnson, but Tejada plays SS for Niese. That's been going on for a few weeks now.
RE: I would have preferred  
speedywheels : 8/27/2015 4:49 pm : link
In comment 12438783 ZGiants98 said:
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Red hot Cuddyer over Johnson, but Tejada plays SS for Niese. That's been going on for a few weeks now.
I know, it makes sense from defensive standpoint. But I hate Tejada...
I'm with you  
ZGiants98 : 8/27/2015 5:00 pm : link
I think we are pretty much getting back to Flores at SS full time though. Against lefties, Wright and Cuddyer are back now so Murphy likely plays second with Flores at SS, and against righties Flores is the full time SS except when Niese pitches. So I look at it like one day a week off. It's ok.
RE: I would have preferred  
PhiPsi125 : 8/27/2015 5:19 pm : link
In comment 12438783 ZGiants98 said:
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Red hot Cuddyer over Johnson, but Tejada plays SS for Niese. That's been going on for a few weeks now.


That's fine but then Flores should be playing 2nd over Johnson.
Part of the reason Cuddyer is hot is...  
Torrag : 8/27/2015 5:20 pm : link
The regular rest his chronic knee is getting. Give him his days off and maybe he'll produce the rest of the way like he is now. Playing everyday certainly wasn't a panacea for his struggles in the first half of the season.
Typical Collins  
Rflairr : 8/27/2015 5:29 pm : link

Cuddy is hot and is .308 in his career against Harang. And he starts Johnson whos hitting .111 against him.
Don't over manage  
Rflairr : 8/27/2015 5:30 pm : link
with the Lefty Righty stuff
Torrag  
ZGiants98 : 8/27/2015 5:36 pm : link
Cuddyer doesn't have a knee condition. He sprained it on a slide at the end of June. If you check his Early July numbers when he was ailing he was actually red hot then too. From all reports its 100% healed now. I do agree at his age we can rest him more however.
Philly domination  
sshin05 : 8/27/2015 5:43 pm : link
Michael Mayer @themainemets
The Mets have won 8 straight series vs. Phillies, their longest series winning streak in team history against Philadelphia.
RE: RE: I would have preferred  
ZGiants98 : 8/27/2015 5:49 pm : link
In comment 12438866 PhiPsi125 said:
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In comment 12438783 ZGiants98 said:


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Red hot Cuddyer over Johnson, but Tejada plays SS for Niese. That's been going on for a few weeks now.



That's fine but then Flores should be playing 2nd over Johnson.


Agreed but as long as it's just one day off, I'm cool with it. It's kind of awesome that today we are bummed Flores and Cuddyer aren't in the lineup, yesterday TDA and Wright rested, the day before Granderson and Conforto. We are pretty much resting 2 awesome players every day and still getting results. Could bode well come October.
Collins has lots of options  
ciggy : 8/27/2015 6:13 pm : link
Can't believe this is the same team.

Any word on Duda's progress? And does he have a projected return date?
Not having read  
sphinx : 8/27/2015 6:25 pm : link
any sports stuff today, I have to ask, is EOF still with the team?

This might be the deepest team  
Eric on Li : 8/27/2015 6:30 pm : link
we've fielded in 3+ decades.
This lineup is  
bc0312 : 8/27/2015 6:41 pm : link
Left
Right
Left
Right
Left
Right
Left
Right
Left
Lucas Duda expected to rejoin Mets when first eligible  
Ira : 8/27/2015 7:02 pm : link
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The Mets provided an encouraging updated on injured first baseman Lucas Duda this afternoon, as hes expected to return from the disabled list when hes first eligible next weekend.

According to Marc Carig of New York Newsday, Duda was diagnosed with a small thoracic disc herniation in his back following X-rays and an MRI. The Mets believe that a rehab plan of anti-inflammatories and exercise will do the trick.

Thanks to a ridiculous power surge from late July to early August, Duda has 21 home runs and an .856 OPS in 113 games this season. Daniel Murphy is starting at first base tonight with David Wright back in the lineup, but Michael Cuddyer also figures to get some playing time at the position while Duda is sidelined.

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RE: Typical Collins  
Mike in NY : 8/27/2015 7:03 pm : link
In comment 12438881 Rflairr said:
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Cuddy is hot and is .308 in his career against Harang. And he starts Johnson whos hitting .111 against him.


They are facing 2 lefties against Boston which probably was what Collins was thinking
jesus Christ can we go one fucking  
Rory : 8/27/2015 7:26 pm : link
Night on a game thread where someone doesn't bitch about the manager.

Guess what ? You don't know better , hence why you're on your couch
Rory  
ciggy : 8/27/2015 7:52 pm : link
+1
Wow  
Rflairr : 8/27/2015 8:04 pm : link
Thanks Niese. Walking the lefties. Idiot
Well, there goes the quality start.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/27/2015 8:06 pm : link
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Yes lets run Niese out there  
Spree_8 : 8/27/2015 8:07 pm : link
instead of Thor if we happen to reach the playoffs!! F@#$ that!! Its the playoffs, you run your best out there no matter what! I really hope this staff learned something from the Nats and Strasburg. You don't take anything for granted if you get to October.
If darno can ever stay healthy he'll make an all star team or two.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/27/2015 8:11 pm : link
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Ummm  
ciggy : 8/27/2015 8:21 pm : link
Yes you don't take anything for granted if you get to October.


On the other hand you don't take for granted that you will get to October.

So let's just wait until we get crazy about the hypothetical playoff rotation.
RE: Ummm  
Spree_8 : 8/27/2015 8:23 pm : link
In comment 12439072 ciggy said:
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Yes you don't take anything for granted if you get to October.


On the other hand you don't take for granted that you will get to October.

So let's just wait until we get crazy about the hypothetical playoff rotation.


You're right. It's just been mentioned around here like its a forgone conclusion. I'm just hoping this staff doesn't roll that way. It's beyond idiotic.
WOW Ces  
Rflairr : 8/27/2015 8:30 pm : link
WOW
La Potencia!  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/27/2015 8:31 pm : link
into the Bullpen. Comeback is on.
please god re-sign him  
GMenLTS : 8/27/2015 8:32 pm : link
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wow Kelly Johnson  
Rflairr : 8/27/2015 8:34 pm : link
excuse me Collins
KELLY JOHNSON  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/27/2015 8:35 pm : link
Brand new ballgame!
This is insane  
pganut : 8/27/2015 8:35 pm : link
This team just wills themselves back into games when they trail.
and it's tied  
GMenLTS : 8/27/2015 8:36 pm : link
kelly johnson bomb

this team is fun
Lol  
ZGiants98 : 8/27/2015 8:36 pm : link
Sick.
Rflairr you are excused  
ciggy : 8/27/2015 8:37 pm : link
But don't let it happen again😬
RE: Rflairr you are excused  
Rflairr : 8/27/2015 8:39 pm : link
In comment 12439089 ciggy said:
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But don't let it happen again😬


LOL
The instrumental "meet the mets" they play going into commercial  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/27/2015 8:39 pm : link
Is catchy as hell.
nice quick inning  
GMenLTS : 8/27/2015 8:42 pm : link
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RE: Yes lets run Niese out there  
timintey : 8/27/2015 8:43 pm : link
In comment 12439063 Spree_8 said:
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instead of Thor if we happen to reach the playoffs!! F@#$ that!! Its the playoffs, you run your best out there no matter what! I really hope this staff learned something from the Nats and Strasburg. You don't take anything for granted if you get to October.

Um, Thor just got lit up the other night too... I think Niese following Harvey & deGrom is a unique change of pace.
This team  
Spree_8 : 8/27/2015 8:43 pm : link
Just has zero quit in it. Just great to watch. They have to resign YC.
RE: RE: Yes lets run Niese out there  
Spree_8 : 8/27/2015 8:45 pm : link
In comment 12439097 timintey said:
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In comment 12439063 Spree_8 said:


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instead of Thor if we happen to reach the playoffs!! F@#$ that!! Its the playoffs, you run your best out there no matter what! I really hope this staff learned something from the Nats and Strasburg. You don't take anything for granted if you get to October.


Um, Thor just got lit up the other night too... I think Niese following Harvey & deGrom is a unique change of pace.


Are you really gonna argue that Niese will give us a better chance to win? Come on.
RE: RE: Yes lets run Niese out there  
Spree_8 : 8/27/2015 8:49 pm : link
In comment 12439097 timintey said:
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In comment 12439063 Spree_8 said:


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instead of Thor if we happen to reach the playoffs!! F@#$ that!! Its the playoffs, you run your best out there no matter what! I really hope this staff learned something from the Nats and Strasburg. You don't take anything for granted if you get to October.


Um, Thor just got lit up the other night too... I think Niese following Harvey & deGrom is a unique change of pace.


I would run Thor out there over Niese 10/10 times. Wouldn't give a damn about his road/home splits either. He just posses more talent in his pinky than Niese could ever dream about.

And yes he has gotten hit hard recently, but those stretches happen to everyone.
Niese has been very solid this year.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/27/2015 8:49 pm : link
Doesn't hurt to have a lefty in the rotation either.
not only has niese had a solid year  
GMenLTS : 8/27/2015 8:52 pm : link
he's been very good as of late

thor needs to limit his innings

what's the problem exactly?
RE: Niese has been very solid this year.  
Spree_8 : 8/27/2015 8:57 pm : link
In comment 12439107 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Doesn't hurt to have a lefty in the rotation either.


Guess we just differ in opinion. I would throw the best I had out there. Thor is the better pitcher. It's what I would do and what I hope this staff does.
Thor v Niese  
ciggy : 8/27/2015 8:58 pm : link
Is probably academic because Thor may be in bullpen. And if he doesn't go BP then it will sort itself out over the next month. Whoever pitches better down the stretch. And don't be surprised if Matz gets into that conversation.
RE: Thor v Niese  
Spree_8 : 8/27/2015 9:06 pm : link
In comment 12439117 ciggy said:
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Is probably academic because Thor may be in bullpen. And if he doesn't go BP then it will sort itself out over the next month. Whoever pitches better down the stretch. And don't be surprised if Matz gets into that conversation.


I'm just hoping that innings count is not what keeps Thor from starting over Niese if the Mets happen to get to October. I just don't trust Niese, he is just a junk baller lefty. Thor has the talent to dominate anyone on a given night.
Let's go kid ...  
Stufftherun : 8/27/2015 9:15 pm : link
jump all over this shit!
Maybe not ...  
Stufftherun : 8/27/2015 9:17 pm : link
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Just  
sshin05 : 8/27/2015 9:17 pm : link
a matter of time they score more. Mets have baserunners all over the place.
Gomez is impressive  
ciggy : 8/27/2015 9:18 pm : link
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Tejada was thrown out by 10 feet  
timintey : 8/27/2015 9:28 pm : link
geez
Not enuf to overturn  
ciggy : 8/27/2015 9:31 pm : link
Come on YC. get the go ahead run home.
Phillies  
sshin05 : 8/27/2015 9:43 pm : link
putting up a fight in this game. I guess they don't want to get swept
RE: Phillies  
dep026 : 8/27/2015 9:44 pm : link
In comment 12439180 sshin05 said:
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putting up a fight in this game. I guess they don't want to get swept


They had the go ahead hitter up in the 8th after falling behind 6-0. They do fight. Its encouraging to see.
It'd be nice to push  
Stufftherun : 8/27/2015 9:49 pm : link
one or two across the plate here, put 'em away and get out of here at a decent hour.
Here we go.  
arcarsenal : 8/27/2015 9:50 pm : link
Let's do this!
Gimme a break!  
Stufftherun : 8/27/2015 9:58 pm : link
That wasn't close to a strike!
Absolutely terrible call  
arcarsenal : 8/27/2015 9:59 pm : link
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Gilmartin dealing ...  
Stufftherun : 8/27/2015 10:03 pm : link
He's been terrific!
Wow.. Gilmartin just put on a fucking clinic.  
arcarsenal : 8/27/2015 10:04 pm : link
That 66 mph curve is awesome
Gilmartin's  
sshin05 : 8/27/2015 10:04 pm : link
confidence is growing, his outings are getting better and better.
Props to those rule 5 picks ...  
Rory : 8/27/2015 10:06 pm : link
Tha 66mpht slider from Gilmartin was filthyyy

And props to Rflair for owning up to his comment earlier

Ruben's going deep ...  
Stufftherun : 8/27/2015 10:07 pm : link
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Deep to SS ...  
Stufftherun : 8/27/2015 10:09 pm : link
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C'mon! WTF?!  
Stufftherun : 8/27/2015 10:15 pm : link
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This ump sucks so bad  
timintey : 8/27/2015 10:16 pm : link
and nearly cost us
Holy crap!!!  
timintey : 8/27/2015 10:20 pm : link
what a play!!!
That may be a top  
dep026 : 8/27/2015 10:20 pm : link
play.
HOLY  
JayBinQueens : 8/27/2015 10:20 pm : link
CRAP!!
Holy.................  
arcarsenal : 8/27/2015 10:20 pm : link
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Lol, wow  
PhiPsi125 : 8/27/2015 10:20 pm : link
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Wow  
sshin05 : 8/27/2015 10:21 pm : link
what an amazing defensive play!!!
Too fucking funny  
Stufftherun : 8/27/2015 10:21 pm : link
and doesn't it just figure that Murph was in the middle of it all.
Would someone please tell me  
ciggy : 8/27/2015 10:21 pm : link
What I think I just saw??
That's just Murph being Murph  
PhiPsi125 : 8/27/2015 10:21 pm : link
Ho hum. Nice hustle from Torres.
That's just Murph being Murph  
PhiPsi125 : 8/27/2015 10:21 pm : link
Ho hum. Nice hustle from Torres.
Holy shit  
glowrider : 8/27/2015 10:22 pm : link
That's out of this world
Alright, let's win this now  
PhiPsi125 : 8/27/2015 10:23 pm : link
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Wow  
dep026 : 8/27/2015 10:23 pm : link
Phillies pitcher got squeezed big time there. 2 of those were definitely strikes.

Ump is cukoo.
seriously...  
stillpoe : 8/27/2015 10:24 pm : link
...best time since Los Mets. I know Murph has his bonehead moments, but I love the energy he brings to the team. That play was ridiculous.
Groin rip ...  
Stufftherun : 8/27/2015 10:25 pm : link
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I've been down on Murphy more this year than any other  
PhiPsi125 : 8/27/2015 10:26 pm : link
But I generally like him. Consistently good hitter. Seems like a great teammate. He's one of those lunch-pail types of players you love having on your team. Gonna miss his bumbling defensive ass.
Dep  
ciggy : 8/27/2015 10:27 pm : link
Might sound crazy to some. But I'm impressed with some of the young guys on the Phillies. Gomez has good stuff.
RE: Dep  
dep026 : 8/27/2015 10:29 pm : link
In comment 12439236 ciggy said:
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Might sound crazy to some. But I'm impressed with some of the young guys on the Phillies. Gomez has good stuff.


Young with some talent. Gomez, outside the other day agaisnt you guys has been good. Garcia has some good stuff, needs consistency. Giles is a beast. They are going in the right direction. Just need a couple years.

Thats why the number 1 pick is essential this year.
Lets win it  
spike : 8/27/2015 10:33 pm : link
Murph!
does this pitching coach  
Tanker20 : 8/27/2015 10:33 pm : link
have to come out to the field every inning of every game



This  
dep026 : 8/27/2015 10:34 pm : link
ump blows.
Uggghhhhhhhhh Murph  
arcarsenal : 8/27/2015 10:35 pm : link
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C'mon D-dub!  
timintey : 8/27/2015 10:35 pm : link
!
come on  
spike : 8/27/2015 10:38 pm : link
PH Wilmer Flores!
Carlos  
spike : 8/27/2015 10:47 pm : link
Torres is one of the fastest pitchers in the league!
Mets have had  
Rflairr : 8/27/2015 10:59 pm : link
every chance to get this one. Can't get a hit with RISP today
Darling said he wants to find the scout who said Conforto wasn't  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/27/2015 11:00 pm : link
A good fielder, lol
Shit throw but Tejada  
Stufftherun : 8/27/2015 11:05 pm : link
has to throw his body on that grenade. Nice job DW!
Cap saves the game on that evil hop.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/27/2015 11:06 pm : link
He looks all the way back.
That pitch was well below the knees!  
Stufftherun : 8/27/2015 11:09 pm : link
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This Neris  
dep026 : 8/27/2015 11:09 pm : link
guy sucks. Phillies give up more hits to relievers than anyone.
They throw over  
Mike in NY : 8/27/2015 11:10 pm : link
Against the pitcher?
Poetic justice!  
Stufftherun : 8/27/2015 11:10 pm : link
Torres should have been walked on 4 straight pitches. Now c'mon boys, do something with the leadoff man on ...something aside from hitting into a DP.
Come on Ces  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/27/2015 11:14 pm : link
Crank one
Nice piece of hitting  
Stufftherun : 8/27/2015 11:15 pm : link
by Grandy.
Needed to at least move the runner over  
steve in ky : 8/27/2015 11:16 pm : link
That may cost them
An unproductive out but  
Stufftherun : 8/27/2015 11:16 pm : link
then again that's what we've seen all night.
this ump  
dep026 : 8/27/2015 11:17 pm : link
has no clue what a strike is anymore.

Calling balls strikes, calling strikes ball.
I thinking Murph will come through here  
steve in ky : 8/27/2015 11:17 pm : link
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Murph!!!  
timintey : 8/27/2015 11:17 pm : link
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Atta boy Murph!  
Stufftherun : 8/27/2015 11:18 pm : link
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Murphy!!!  
PhiPsi125 : 8/27/2015 11:18 pm : link
He's having a hell of a game.
FUCK YEA MURPH  
Giants4246 : 8/27/2015 11:18 pm : link
!!!!
Wooooooooooooo  
arcarsenal : 8/27/2015 11:18 pm : link
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MURPHY  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/27/2015 11:19 pm : link
Nice hit!
Murph & Torres show  
stillpoe : 8/27/2015 11:19 pm : link
LGM!!!
Good series boys  
dep026 : 8/27/2015 11:20 pm : link
as soon as Neris came in, it was over.

This guy is f'n awful. You fall behind 3-0 to a relief pitcher not even looking to swing, you deserve to lose.

RE: this ump  
Mike in NY : 8/27/2015 11:20 pm : link
In comment 12439299 dep026 said:
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has no clue what a strike is anymore.

Calling balls strikes, calling strikes ball.


He has been equally bad for both teams. That being said I think he gets a huge playoff game because he is one of the least reversed umps
I really hope they will resign Murphy  
steve in ky : 8/27/2015 11:20 pm : link
Arguably their best hitter who just entering his prime and can play 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. He give you a great bat and flexibility in the field.

I think it did hit David's foot  
PhiPsi125 : 8/27/2015 11:21 pm : link
Lucky break
RE: I think it did hit David's foot  
Stufftherun : 8/27/2015 11:24 pm : link
In comment 12439314 PhiPsi125 said:
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Lucky break


The true indication is always the batters reflex and in this case he didn't come up hopping rather DW took off immediately after contact.
Rook gets a steak  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/27/2015 11:25 pm : link
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I don't know  
sshin05 : 8/27/2015 11:26 pm : link
who Neris is but he's been bad. Seems to never have a clean inning against the mets. And they have tattooed him in this series.
Atta boy kid Conforto!  
Stufftherun : 8/27/2015 11:26 pm : link
Getting in some quality and valuable AB's.
No chance Murph is on the team next year  
ciggy : 8/27/2015 11:27 pm : link
Enjoy this run and all the craziness that is Murphy.
RE: I don't know  
dep026 : 8/27/2015 11:27 pm : link
In comment 12439319 sshin05 said:
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who Neris is but he's been bad. Seems to never have a clean inning against the mets. And they have tattooed him in this series.


He's awful, but then again so is the majority of their pen. Outside Gomez, Garcia, and Giles.... they have no one who is worth being on the roster.

This Defratus guy may be worse. Thank god he only needs 1 run.
RE: RE: I think it did hit David's foot  
PhiPsi125 : 8/27/2015 11:30 pm : link
In comment 12439317 Stufftherun said:
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In comment 12439314 PhiPsi125 said:


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Lucky break



The true indication is always the batters reflex and in this case he didn't come up hopping rather DW took off immediately after contact.


Not necessarily. If it just nicked his cleat than the player may not even feel it much. I thought I saw it change direction on the replays. It wouldn't take much to do that. Either way, the result was good.
If Howard bats  
dep026 : 8/27/2015 11:30 pm : link
he has one thing in mind. Hit one 500 feet. This should be fun haha.
RE: RE: RE: I think it did hit David's foot  
Stufftherun : 8/27/2015 11:33 pm : link
In comment 12439325 PhiPsi125 said:
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In comment 12439317 Stufftherun said:


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In comment 12439314 PhiPsi125 said:


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Lucky break



The true indication is always the batters reflex and in this case he didn't come up hopping rather DW took off immediately after contact.



Not necessarily. If it just nicked his cleat than the player may not even feel it much. I thought I saw it change direction on the replays. It wouldn't take much to do that. Either way, the result was good.


Your eyes are probably much better than mine but I thought that centerfield camera shot showed it to be pretty clear.
Garcia  
sshin05 : 8/27/2015 11:34 pm : link
had upside but he seems to have control issues. Throws hard and has a semi decent slider. Not bad outing for someone who had make an emergency outing.
I've bashed the guy all year, but  
speedywheels : 8/27/2015 11:34 pm : link
Torres earned a gold fucking star for today's effort.

2+ innings, part of an amazing play, infield hit and scored the go ahead run!

Bravo, sir...
RE: No chance Murph is on the team next year  
steve in ky : 8/27/2015 11:36 pm : link
In comment 12439321 ciggy said:
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Enjoy this run and all the craziness that is Murphy.


He has mentioned in the past he would likely give the Mets a home town discount so you never know.
I love this damn team  
GMenLTS : 8/27/2015 11:39 pm : link
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Again, wasn't pretty  
Stufftherun : 8/27/2015 11:39 pm : link
but it counts.

Short turn around, get your rest boys.
8-1 road trip guys  
sshin05 : 8/27/2015 11:40 pm : link
that is a great trip no matter who they faced
Torres is actually having a pretty good year now.  
arcarsenal : 8/27/2015 11:40 pm : link
He had a rough patch earlier in the year but he's quietly been pretty solid for a while. He was getting paired with Alex and was unfairly labeled a disaster.
tick, tick, tick  
sphinx : 8/27/2015 11:41 pm : link
One tick a day is enough ... 163 - 71 - 62 = 30

We go home and Citi Field will be full and rocking  
Headhunter : 8/27/2015 11:41 pm : link
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Steve  
ciggy : 8/27/2015 11:42 pm : link
He will not be here next year. I don't see him being happy as a reserve and he certainly will not want to be paid as one. Third is Wright. First is Duda. And second is either Herrera or Flores next year IMO. Someone will pay him to play 2B and or DH
So throwing a  
Pete in MD : 8/27/2015 11:44 pm : link
quick pitch is bush league but shoving a guy in the back who just got you out is perfectly ok? Fuck you, Frenchy you hypocrite.
Pete  
ciggy : 8/27/2015 11:46 pm : link
Relax. Frenchy is protecting self on that play.
Wish I had tickets for this weekend  
ciggy : 8/27/2015 11:48 pm : link
Citifield should be rocking
ciggy  
steve in ky : 8/27/2015 11:48 pm : link
You're probably right because the Mets will likely look to save some money here. But IMO he is better than Flores or Herrea and with Wright's back issues a great insurance to have on the roster.
RE: Pete  
sphinx : 8/27/2015 11:48 pm : link
In comment 12439345 ciggy said:
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Relax. Frenchy is protecting self on that play.

Yep, and kept him from running up on Torres and possibly spiking him.

RE: Steve  
speedywheels : 8/27/2015 11:51 pm : link
In comment 12439341 ciggy said:
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He will not be here next year. I don't see him being happy as a reserve and he certainly will not want to be paid as one. Third is Wright. First is Duda. And second is either Herrera or Flores next year IMO. Someone will pay him to play 2B and or DH


They can't assume wright will be an everyday player. Murphy would get plenty of playing time.

But yeah, someone will pay him to play 2nd or DH most likely
If mets don't sign Cespeds  
Vanzetti : 8/28/2015 12:06 am : link
they could conceivably bring Murph back

But not at 5/60, which is what he might get from some other team. So he is probably gone.
great win  
spike : 8/28/2015 12:07 am : link
magic number is now 30
RE: Steve  
Ira : 8/28/2015 3:59 am : link
In comment 12439341 ciggy said:
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He will not be here next year. I don't see him being happy as a reserve and he certainly will not want to be paid as one. Third is Wright. First is Duda. And second is either Herrera or Flores next year IMO. Someone will pay him to play 2B and or DH


I think they'll pay him to play third. He's better defensively there.
In case anyone missed it -  
Ira : 8/28/2015 5:46 am : link
"A play you've never seen before and may never see again."
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RE: RE: Steve  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 7:05 am : link
In comment 12439373 Ira said:
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In comment 12439341 ciggy said:


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He will not be here next year. I don't see him being happy as a reserve and he certainly will not want to be paid as one. Third is Wright. First is Duda. And second is either Herrera or Flores next year IMO. Someone will pay him to play 2B and or DH



I think they'll pay him to play third. He's better defensively there.


No chance Murphy gets his money as a DH. His value is at 2b or 3b. DH's don't hold a ton of value if you aren't a David Ortiz type.
Minors  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 7:18 am : link
AAA-
Stauffer with a gem 8.1 innings 4 hits 0 runs 0 walks 5 k's (a potential 9/1 callup)
Alvarez .1 perfect
Herrera 1-4
Kirk 1-3 HR
Nimmo did not play (gotta be hurt, Wally would bench him for 3 straight?)

AA
Goeddel 1.1 innings 3 hits 2 runs 1 walk 1 k (meh, woulda been nice to see a good outing)
Smoker 0.1 1 walk 1 k
Sewald 1 perfect 2 k's (fantastic season)
Rivera 2-4



A+

Smith 2-5 HR (had been slumping previously
Rosario 0-5, 3 k's
McNeil 2-5, 2b


Savannah
Johnson 4-5, 2 2b, HR, BB
Becerra 1-6, 2 k's
Garcia 1-3, 3 bb
Katz 0-6 4 k's (17 k's last 36 ab's)

Flexen 5 innings 6 hits 3 runs 1 walk 3 k's

BK
Lindsay 1-2, BB (nice)
Thompson 1-4

GCL
Rasquin 2-4 2 bb
de Aza 2-4, 2 bb

Kingsport
Carpio 3-5
Winningham 0-5
Ramos 2-5, 2 2b
Mazeika 1-5
Llanes 7 innings 6 hits 3 runs 1 walk 6 k's
.  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 7:37 am : link
Odds of Jay-Z showing up at CitiField with a Mets cap during the playoffs "I'm just here to support my boy Yoenis" lol #Mets
Only way I see Murphy on the team  
feelflows : 8/28/2015 7:49 am : link
Is if he's offered and accepted a QO. He's eligible for that, right? I'm not sure how that works but, they get a pick of some sort back.
If we don't sign Murphy and Cespedes  
Tanker20 : 8/28/2015 7:53 am : link
We're going to have the lowest payroll in baseball.

Right? We can't just not sign people because they cost too much or well get nobody. Free agency is essentially an auction and so by definition the team that gets him will have paid over his market as determined by all the other teams in the league.

If they don't sign those guys then the only way to make up for that money wise is if they hand out longer term contracts to Harvey and Duda.

RE: Only way I see Murphy on the team  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 7:54 am : link
In comment 12439407 feelflows said:
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Is if he's offered and accepted a QO. He's eligible for that, right? I'm not sure how that works but, they get a pick of some sort back.


Yes he's eligible but it would be stunning to see
1. Mets gamble 16+ million on Daniel Murphy
2. A young father deciding to take 1 year 16 over what surely will net him more years somewhere else. Not at 16, but 3 for 36 type money. It's a near lock he's an ex-Met.
Can't sign Cespedes  
Headhunter : 8/28/2015 7:56 am : link
go all for Justin Upton and still dump Murphy
Losing Murphy and Cespedes  
Shecky : 8/28/2015 8:00 am : link
No one expected Cuddyer to get the QO, so with Murphy - who knows. It is doubtful, but does he take a one year over market deal at the risk of missing out on a 4 year deal? Will be very interesting to see how this plays out. More nights like last night increase the odds he gets the QO and Mets get a pick for him :)

Cespedes. It may or may not be him, we can't be focused on him and only him at the risk of grossly overpaying. He has shown the FO the importance of the big bat to this lineup in particular. Worst case scenario is Cespedes is replaced by the trade deadline next July. Worst case, so I wouldn't sweat it too much today.

BTW - cool move on Tigers part. Fulmer missed pitching against his former team the other day, so they sent him out as captain to the plate. Small, but very professional thing to do.
I  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 8:04 am : link
think a missing part of the equation is how ready they think Herrera is to step in and give "Murphy" production and/or Flores at 2b and someone else at SS.
Debora  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 8:05 am : link
and Olivo added to GCL. Badler liked Debora 2 seasons ago. 6'7 kid
Nothing  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 8:06 am : link
verified AT ALL but someone I spoke to said he "heard" Nimmo was promoted to AAA because he and Lopez were clashing. No idea if true or not.
RE: Nothing  
Shecky : 8/28/2015 8:16 am : link
In comment 12439430 DanMetroMan said:
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verified AT ALL but someone I spoke to said he "heard" Nimmo was promoted to AAA because he and Lopez were clashing. No idea if true or not.

Focus and distractions - needs to rededicate to the GAME. This offseason is make or break for him in the organization.
RE: RE: Nothing  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 8:22 am : link
In comment 12439438 Shecky said:
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In comment 12439430 DanMetroMan said:


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verified AT ALL but someone I spoke to said he "heard" Nimmo was promoted to AAA because he and Lopez were clashing. No idea if true or not.


Focus and distractions - needs to rededicate to the GAME. This offseason is make or break for him in the organization.


Sort of surprising given his rep for being a hard worker in the off-season. Has the talent. Hopefully Conforto passing him is a wakeup call
Meh. They said Thor had to grow up too.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/28/2015 8:24 am : link
Worked out so far.
Never said he doesn't work hard...  
Shecky : 8/28/2015 8:26 am : link
Working and work ethic arent the issue - just working hard on the wrong things. Needs to want to be great. Has to fall in love with the game again.
RE: Meh. They said Thor had to grow up too.  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 8:27 am : link
In comment 12439456 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Worked out so far.


Thor's production was always A+. Pretty massive difference don't you think?
RE: RE: Meh. They said Thor had to grow up too.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/28/2015 8:28 am : link
In comment 12439465 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 12439456 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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Worked out so far.



Thor's production was always A+. Pretty massive difference don't you think?


I thought we were talking about a personality issue?
RE: Meh. They said Thor had to grow up too.  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 8:30 am : link
In comment 12439456 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Worked out so far.

Thor's worst season was last season and he still posted a 3.70 FIP with 9.81 K/9 and we all know about the PCL/LV. Nimmo's OPS this season is now... .711 and is now barely playing. Something is amiss. Shecky is now basically the 2nd "source" to comment on Nimmo's "off field" concerns. Conforto being told he needed to grow up would be similar to Thor.
TTH  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 8:31 am : link
the concern is Nimmo's "issues" are impacting his production. Not "he's been really good but can be a baby". He's been poor and apparently according to Shecky has some off field stuff that is holding him back.
RE: Never said he doesn't work hard...  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 8:32 am : link
In comment 12439462 Shecky said:
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Working and work ethic arent the issue - just working hard on the wrong things. Needs to want to be great. Has to fall in love with the game again.


Thanks Shecky. Lopez is generally highly thought of throughout the game so I found this to be surprising. Again, I think there must be an injury issue here... 3 straight games not in the lineup?
Just  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 8:34 am : link
for context all 3 of BA, BP and milb.com moved Thor's prospect ranking UP following last season despite the inflated era. Nobody is doing that with Nimmo this year.
Debora  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 8:35 am : link
is already 22 in December and has been suspended previously for PED's but he's potentially one to watch

Admittedly never heard of Olivo until recently
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My only point is that it's a fixable issue.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/28/2015 8:36 am : link
I could understand if it's frustration boiling over. I'm sure he thinks he's better than what he's done to this point. A month ago he was in the futures game with Conforto, now his buddy is in the show and achieving while he's looking lost.
Boy, not only are the Mets hot, but they seem to have a horseshoe  
Victor in CT : 8/28/2015 8:37 am : link
up their collective ass now too. The ricochet play was a doozy.
RE: My only point is that it's a fixable issue.  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 8:39 am : link
In comment 12439487 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I could understand if it's frustration boiling over. I'm sure he thinks he's better than what he's done to this point. A month ago he was in the futures game with Conforto, now his buddy is in the show and achieving while he's looking lost.


That's fair. Just don't think Thor's "issues" were the same. Thor was basically being put through finishing school. He was almost a 2014 callup.
I maintain  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 8:40 am : link
there is a mandate from the top to play potential September call-ups the week or to leading up to the month. Makes perfect sense that Ceciliani, Kirk, and EYJ would get the majority of the playing time leading up to Sep 1.
.  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 8:40 am : link
AAA- Lugo (Interesting arm)
AA- Koch (could be a 2016 Mets pen option if not claimed)
A+ Reyes (potential MLB reliever)
A Prevost (huge kid but very meh season overall for his level)
BK Villasmil
Kingsport Crismatt (nice year)
RE: I maintain  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 8:44 am : link
In comment 12439494 ZGiants98 said:
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there is a mandate from the top to play potential September call-ups the week or to leading up to the month. Makes perfect sense that Ceciliani, Kirk, and EYJ would get the majority of the playing time leading up to Sep 1.


And bench him 3 straight games? Sorry I'm not buying that one at all. To play yes? Sure. If that were the case why even promote him when they did? He has 25 total ab's the last 2 weeks (Since August 14). He hit .120 with 10 k's in his last 25 ab's and suddenly stopped playing. Also hasn't been used as a pinch hitter or runner. Yesterday Jayce Boyd was used over him.
I keep going back and forth  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 8:45 am : link
but Im back on the offer Murphy a QO train. 90% chance he turns it down and after his recent resurgence he likely gets a nice deal on the open market. If he takes it, its a one year commitment. Its not some albatross. And he is an extremely useful player anyway and would protect against Wright's back. Its a win win for us.
Why  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 8:45 am : link
wouldn't he have been left in AA? or sent back to AA when it was clear he wouldn't play at all? His performance/injury are the issue here. Bottom line 3/25 with 10 k's sends you to the bench. Question is if something is ailing him or not.
RE: RE: I maintain  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 8:46 am : link
In comment 12439501 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 12439494 ZGiants98 said:


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there is a mandate from the top to play potential September call-ups the week or to leading up to the month. Makes perfect sense that Ceciliani, Kirk, and EYJ would get the majority of the playing time leading up to Sep 1.



And bench him 3 straight games? Sorry I'm not buying that one at all. To play yes? Sure. If that were the case why even promote him when they did? He has 25 total ab's the last 2 weeks (Since August 14). He hit .120 with 10 k's in his last 25 ab's and suddenly stopped playing. Also hasn't been used as a pinch hitter or runner. Yesterday Jayce Boyd was used over him.


Boyd over him is odd so maybe he did tweak something. I hadn't checked the box last night.
Wright  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 8:49 am : link
said he's feeling good. So far he's looking physically very good. Doesn't have the pressure to carry the team anymore
RE: Wright  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 8:51 am : link
In comment 12439510 DanMetroMan said:
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said he's feeling good. So far he's looking physically very good. Doesn't have the pressure to carry the team anymore


Feel that's the case with SO many players right now. Wright, Cuddyer, Flores, TDA, Murphy, even somebody like Lagares. The pressure is completely off now. I have a hunch Duda is going to benefit from this too. He too often has tried to carry this team. Now he also will be one of the guys.
Knowing  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 9:08 am : link
What we know about Wright I almost feel like there was some level of embarrassment to be collecting huge money with zero team results
So are we nervous about Boston at all?  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 9:26 am : link
Their lineup has been red hot. I think they said number one in baseball over the last few weeks or so, or maybe AL? Too lazy to look. lol
RE: So are we nervous about Boston at all?  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 9:34 am : link
In comment 12439597 ZGiants98 said:
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Their lineup has been red hot. I think they said number one in baseball over the last few weeks or so, or maybe AL? Too lazy to look. lol


Not with the 3 aces going at home I'm not :)

And though I still haven't gotten used to saying this yet.. I expect us to put runs on the board.
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arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 9:34 am : link
I do worry that Harvey might be a litttttttle off tonight because of the extra rest but I'm glad he's had it. It was necessary.
Sox can hit  
ciggy : 8/28/2015 9:37 am : link
I'm anxious to see Harvey after the long rest. Will it help or hurt??
Some of his best stuff was when he was freshest though  
Eric on Li : 8/28/2015 9:38 am : link
remember that first start in the spring? I wouldn't be shocked to see one of his sharper outings actually, but I guess you never know.
..  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 9:40 am : link
Martino Bartolo Colon will spend the next few weeks basically auditioning for a spot on the postseason roster. The team has not ruled out using him in a late-inning relief role, but is leaving open the possibility of excluding him entirely.

-There is active debate, and nowhere near agreement, on whether to move Noah Syndergaard to the bullpen. In internal discussions, some Mets people salivate over the notion of Syndergaard blowing 100 mph in the seventh inning.

Others worry about his lack of experience in that role, and are hesitant to move him from the rotation in September. With both Syndergaard and Matz, the Mets would want to do it soon, so they could gain experience pitching in relief.

-Hoping that Matz will start for them in October, the Mets are closely watching several lefties in their system, including Scott Rice, Dario Alvarez and Josh Smoker.

Yes, we understand that you might consider that list uninspiring. Asked on Thursday if it was realistic for a guy in Triple-A in late August to pitch in big postseason spots, Sandy Alderson said, Why not?

-The Mets are unlikely to trade for another reliever before Tuesday.

-The team is not inclined to move Jon Niese to the bullpen.
As to Murphy  
ciggy : 8/28/2015 9:40 am : link
I would love to have him as a utility guy and insurance for Wright. But someone will pay him big bucks to be 2B and occasional DH. even if the Mets want him he will test the market
..  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 9:41 am : link
Scott Rice would be a disaster 39 walks in 64.2 career MLB innings and 27 BB's in 36 AAA innings this year #Mets
RE: As to Murphy  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 9:41 am : link
In comment 12439634 ciggy said:
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I would love to have him as a utility guy and insurance for Wright. But someone will pay him big bucks to be 2B and occasional DH. even if the Mets want him he will test the market


In the unlikely situation Murphy were offered the QO and accepted he's not going to be a utility player for 16+ million. He's your starting 2b.
Thor seems to make the most sense  
Eric on Li : 8/28/2015 9:43 am : link
since he has the least innings left and hasn't had TJS (maybe that's not really meaningful, but based on his size/strength/arm he seems like a guy whose arm is a little less delicate than the other starters).
They are going to give Harvey these breaks  
steve in ky : 8/28/2015 9:44 am : link
It is incumbent on him to figure out how to be effective when it happens. That's all part of being a pro and he can't view it as an excuse if he pitched poorly.
.  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 9:46 am : link
Let Alvarez come up and take over EOF's spot next week.

Gilmartin has been excellent, Torres has been fine, Robles is emerging as a reliable 7th inning option and we have Verrett as a swingman. Just get EOF out of there and replace him with a reliable lefty and I think we have the groundwork for what should be a pretty solid bullpen going into October.

After that, depth, depth, depth. You can never be deep enough in the pen.
Thor in the pen  
Shecky : 8/28/2015 9:47 am : link
A while back I mentioned that as the most likely solution to his innings issue in the playoffs. One thought right now is to have him pitch out of the pen 1-2 times when they skip his turn to see how he deals with it. It solves multiple problems for the team...
steve  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 9:47 am : link
agreed. Harvey as your #1 conceivably could throw 35-50 playoff innings. He needs to learn to deal with extra time. For such an incredible competitor and great player he does make a lot of excuses when he's off.
.  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 9:48 am : link
I don't think anyone's saying Harvey will use it as an excuse if he struggles and it's nothing to be concerned about even if he does. He's not going to get 10 days off between postseason starts if we make it. It'd be a non-issue.

He may well go out and dominate tonight. Who knows.
Alvarez  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 9:48 am : link
has beastly numbers vs. lefties this season
RE: .  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 9:48 am : link
In comment 12439659 arcarsenal said:
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I don't think anyone's saying Harvey will use it as an excuse if he struggles and it's nothing to be concerned about even if he does. He's not going to get 10 days off between postseason starts if we make it. It'd be a non-issue.

He may well go out and dominate tonight. Who knows.


Arc,
He's previously complained about it on multiple occasions.
Following the poor Dodgers start  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 9:51 am : link
July 5 ""With the six-man and then the day off, throwing last Saturday and then this Saturday is tough," Harvey said. "We're all having to deal with it. It's not an excuse why things didn't go well today. I just have to do a better job of finding a way to get a rhythm throughout an extended period of rest like that.""


Back in May-

Its different, Harvey said about pitching with extra rest. Weve all been going through it. Every single one of us has had an extra day here or there. Dealing with it is something you have to do. I dont think I did a very good job of that. I think were all excited to go back to a five-day rotation. It is what it is.
The Murphy  
Metnut : 8/28/2015 9:51 am : link
QO thing will be interesting to follow. If he finishes strong, he'll likely sign somewhere else instead of take the QO and we'll get a 1st. Worst case, if he's good enough to give the QO to and he takes it, we keep him for one more year in his prime and let Dilson rake in AAA for another year.
Mets BP vs Phillies  
RinR : 8/28/2015 9:52 am : link
IP = 19.1, H = 13, R = 5, ER = 4, BB = 3 K = 22, ERA = 2.36, WHIP = 0.84
Nimmo and Cecchini are both in and out of the lineup a lot  
Vanzetti : 8/28/2015 9:53 am : link
both have been injury prone with a variety of ailments. So I would imagine Nimmo is probably nicked up.


But if not, getting benched is not always a bad thing. We don't know what attitude problems or maturity issues these guys have.
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arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 9:53 am : link
I'm well aware. But that was because of the 6 man rotation which, at the time, was supposed to be something we went with for a while. He didn't like the idea of the extra day between multiple, consecutive starts. This is not really the same.

And again, it doesn't even matter. He's not going to get "skipped" in October. The excuse part of it is basically irrelevant because he's not going to be pitching playoff games on extended rest.
RE: Nimmo and Cecchini are both in and out of the lineup a lot  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 9:55 am : link
In comment 12439671 Vanzetti said:
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both have been injury prone with a variety of ailments. So I would imagine Nimmo is probably nicked up.


But if not, getting benched is not always a bad thing. We don't know what attitude problems or maturity issues these guys have.


Cecchini has a hip issue. Originally called a groin issue.
RE: .  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 9:55 am : link
In comment 12439673 arcarsenal said:
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I'm well aware. But that was because of the 6 man rotation which, at the time, was supposed to be something we went with for a while. He didn't like the idea of the extra day between multiple, consecutive starts. This is not really the same.

And again, it doesn't even matter. He's not going to get "skipped" in October. The excuse part of it is basically irrelevant because he's not going to be pitching playoff games on extended rest.


No but pretty good odds he's skipped at least 1 more time.
Matz  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 9:56 am : link
will pitch for Bing 1 more time (80 pitches) on Tuesday and then be promoted
arc  
steve in ky : 8/28/2015 9:57 am : link
But the games he pitches while the Mets are in the middle of a pennant race are meaningful also. His starts aren't throw away games and he needs to pitch well when called upon.
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arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 9:57 am : link
And again, it won't matter. I don't even know what the argument is. It's not like it's something he has to "get used to" doing or learn to deal with. It's just a particular set of circumstances for right now so that he can pitch in the postseason. Once we get there, this isn't something anyone will have to worry about.

There's a good chance he doesn't even miss a beat anyway.
Pedro  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 9:59 am : link
recreates the Torres/Murphy play
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Parnell  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 10:00 am : link
looking forward to rejoining the Mets, I'm not looking forward to that lol
Postseason rotation  
Vanzetti : 8/28/2015 10:14 am : link
If I had to guess right now, I'd say

DeGrom
Harvey
Niese
Colon (game 4)

But I could see Matz displacing Niese if their performance merits it. Mets could also roll the dice and go with the four young studs. Probably September performances will have a lot to do with who gets the nod.
I'd  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 10:15 am : link
be stunned if Colon makes a playoff start. Stunned. Doesn't even seem like that's being discussed. BP or off the roster.
Unless Niese falls apart  
steve in ky : 8/28/2015 10:16 am : link
from here on out he has earned a spot.
RE: Pedro  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 8/28/2015 10:24 am : link
In comment 12439688 DanMetroMan said:
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recreates the Torres/Murphy play Link - ( New Window )


Love the Pedro.
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arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 10:25 am : link
Yeah, there's no way Colon is starting postseason games. The only chance he has (and it is miniscule) of appearing in the postseason would be out of the pen in some capacity. Don't see him being a part of the postseason roster at all, though.

deGrom, Harvey, Niese, Matz should be the playoff rotation. Thor out of the pen.
Re: the QO for Murphy  
bhill410 : 8/28/2015 10:28 am : link
As soon as it became apparent that the Mets will not be offering him a contract extension I have been praying that this is what happens. In the worst case scenario where he accepts yea you will be paying probably 4 million over market value for Murphy, but realistically you will be able to unload that at the trade deadline provided he is having some semblance of a decent year.

Just look at the contract that mediocre Pablo got (granted with post season success) as evidence that there simply are not a ton of good offensive 3rd or 2nd base players out there. On a team who needs a 3b Murphy would be a logical fit for say 4/48.

I am still irked with the Billy Wagner situation so this would finally be their chance to recoup value off an asset, something they have seemingly been unable to do under previous regimes.
I  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 10:29 am : link
like Colon but when he's off he's horrendous. Colon starting a playoff game would give me flashbacks of Trachsel in 06 vs. the Cardinals
Arc  
ciggy : 8/28/2015 10:30 am : link
Absolutely agree. But of course that could change based upon how they finish these last five weeks. But it would be great if Matz pushed his way in to the rotation.
Unless Colon  
Metnut : 8/28/2015 10:52 am : link
goes lights out during September, or there's a rush of injuries, there's no way he should be starting a playoff game for us.

I'd go with DeGrom/Harvey/Niese and let Matz and Thor fight it out for the last spot with the loser going to the pen. If Niese has a bad September, I'd just roll with the 4 kids.
RE: Matz  
Shecky : 8/28/2015 11:06 am : link
In comment 12439682 DanMetroMan said:
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will pitch for Bing 1 more time (80 pitches) on Tuesday and then be promoted

Tuesday or Monday?
Niese has been better lately  
MetsAreBack : 8/28/2015 11:06 am : link
but the bullpen better be ready for that game 3/4 he starts in a postseason series. I trust Matz (or Thor if they send Matz out there) more i think - if for no other reason than league hitters dont have much tape/experience against him.
RE: RE: Matz  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 11:42 am : link
In comment 12439831 Shecky said:
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In comment 12439682 DanMetroMan said:


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will pitch for Bing 1 more time (80 pitches) on Tuesday and then be promoted


Tuesday or Monday?


Lennon says Monday, MMO said Tuesday but that's now been edited out so I'm assuming it's monday
.  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 11:50 am : link
JC Medina 4 innings 6 hits 2 runs 1 earned 0 walks 3 k's. He's walked 0 in 30 innings this year

Cespedes 1-2
Sanchez 0-2
de Aza 0-1, K
Dirocie 1-1, 2b (started 0-20, he's 2 for his last 2 with a double and a triple)
Dimino 0-2, K
First dynasty?  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 12:11 pm : link
:)
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arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 12:16 pm : link
LOL, I don't know why people always need to get so far ahead. Can we just get into the postseason THIS year first? I am not even remotely worried about the Nationals at this point but things change so fast and injuries can wreck pitchers careers and de-rail seasons.

I just want the Mets to make the most of this year and this opportunity. It's hard to take mentions of a potential "dynasty" seriously when we've still accomplished nothing to date.
You have  
sshin05 : 8/28/2015 12:21 pm : link
to win championship before mentioning a dynasty. With the way the rotation is being set up for next few years, you can say the Mets are positioned to be competitive in the near future.
Really  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 12:23 pm : link
curious which of the Mets minor league SS's is going to be the best of the bunch.

Cecchini, Rosario, Carpio, Hernandez (likely not a SS), Ramos etc
Ha!  
sshin05 : 8/28/2015 12:33 pm : link
Brian P. Mangan ‏@brianpmangan
Five years ago, Stephen Strasburg was a once-a-generation SP who threw 97 with wicked offspeed stuff.

Mets now have three of those guys.
lol at a dynasty  
Metnut : 8/28/2015 12:39 pm : link
I'd just like to see the Mets win the world series once. I was only 4 during '86 and don't remember any of it. Seeing the team win the big one and all the celebrations that would ensue afterwards would be enough for this metnut.

winning just one world series won't be easy. teams like the dodgers/cubs/pirates/cardinals are all loaded and aren't going anywhere, and that's just the nl.
RE: .  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2015 12:40 pm : link
In comment 12439931 arcarsenal said:
Quote:
LOL, I don't know why people always need to get so far ahead. Can we just get into the postseason THIS year first? I am not even remotely worried about the Nationals at this point but things change so fast and injuries can wreck pitchers careers and de-rail seasons.

I just want the Mets to make the most of this year and this opportunity. It's hard to take mentions of a potential "dynasty" seriously when we've still accomplished nothing to date.


Stop being a wet blanket.
You guys take everything so literal lol.  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 12:41 pm : link
The article tells me we are currently one of the best teams in baseball since the Conforto call up and set up very well for our future. The end.
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arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 12:57 pm : link
I'm not blaming you, it's just the general need people always have to look ahead and fast forward rather than focusing on and enjoying the now.

This stretch of Mets baseball has been the most enjoyable product we've seen in nearly a decade and the potential is there for something even bigger.

Sometimes you almost forget to take in the moment when something special is happening with a team you root for because you're so fixated on the next stop or what's further down the road.

The endless posts about Cespedes are a prime example. Instead of enjoying the guy right now while he's providing us the best, and really only legit 5 tool player we've had since prime Beltran, everyone is preoccupied with his contract and whether or not we can get him to stay.

We're in a pennant race!
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Metnut : 8/28/2015 12:58 pm : link
In comment 12440037 arcarsenal said:
Quote:
I'm not blaming you, it's just the general need people always have to look ahead and fast forward rather than focusing on and enjoying the now.

This stretch of Mets baseball has been the most enjoyable product we've seen in nearly a decade and the potential is there for something even bigger.

Sometimes you almost forget to take in the moment when something special is happening with a team you root for because you're so fixated on the next stop or what's further down the road.

The endless posts about Cespedes are a prime example. Instead of enjoying the guy right now while he's providing us the best, and really only legit 5 tool player we've had since prime Beltran, everyone is preoccupied with his contract and whether or not we can get him to stay.

We're in a pennant race!


Nice post arc. Agreed.
My favorite Met before Beltran  
sshin05 : 8/28/2015 1:09 pm : link
Sam Page ‏@samtpage
Mike Piazza and Paul Lo Duca caught a combined 1,314 games for the Dodgers but only tweet about the Mets.
Wow Arc  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 1:39 pm : link
I couldn't agree more!
I've been enjoying this run since the trade deadline  
Torrag : 8/28/2015 3:03 pm : link
Our team is set to battle for a championship. The future is now. Enjoy it.


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DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 3:39 pm : link
Stuart Johnson says Lindsay is expected to open 2016 in BK. They wanted him to get used to night baseball.
BA's hot sheet  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 3:40 pm : link
10. Steve Matz, lhp, Mets

3ds_mets80Team: Double-A Binghamton (Eastern)
Age: 24
Why Hes Here: 1-0, 0.00, 6 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 6 SO, 0 BB

The Scoop: The blue-chip lefthander, rehabbing from a strained lat muscle, breezed through his most recent start. After one more rehab start, hell be back at Citi Field in time for the pennant run, unleashing his mid-90s heat and a plus changeup as well as a curveball thats developing more shape.
Sounds  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 4:17 pm : link
like Duda will miss more than the minimum 15 days.
RE: Sounds  
Victor in CT : 8/28/2015 4:29 pm : link
In comment 12440364 DanMetroMan said:
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like Duda will miss more than the minimum 15 days.


Shockingly the Mets medical staff is wrong. ;-)

They must be partners with the Giants docs
RE: Sounds  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 4:31 pm : link
In comment 12440364 DanMetroMan said:
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like Duda will miss more than the minimum 15 days.


LOL.. boy, who saw that coming?
Collins  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 4:32 pm : link
said "it's still possible" Duda is ready in 15 but hasn't picked up a bat yet.
Figured I'd ask  
hudson : 8/28/2015 10:22 pm : link
1) When the Phillies were on top a few years ago and the Mets in the cellar....did Philly fans overtake Citified like Mets fans have to CBP?

2) I'm jealous because the Mets get to invade Philly, as do the Knicks (two NY teams I don't like), but in Football and Hockey, the Giants/Rangers have never been able to invade Philly anything like that...I wish the Iggles and Flyers would tank for a few seasons like the Phillies/Sixers do. Every sport where Philly is a rival they never hit rock bottom and I have to deal with a hostile Philly fanbase,
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