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Nat Berhe getting calf surgery tomorrow, likely to be IR'd

SicilianGMEN : 8/27/2015 6:11 pm
Art Stapleton & #8207;@art_stapleton 25m25 minutes ago
#Giants S Nat Berhe to undergo surgery on injured calf on Friday, per sources. Status for 2015 undecided, IR likely
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Could be done for the season  
jeff57 : 8/27/2015 8:53 pm : link
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Starting to understand why JPP  
bradshaw44 : 8/27/2015 8:59 pm : link
Didn't want the Giants medical staff anywhere near him! (Sarcasm...hopefully).
Hardened Blood Clot?  
Percy : 8/27/2015 9:04 pm : link
Holy smokes! Unreal! But do not IR him. He'll be available a little later.
RE: looks like our safeties will be  
Bill in UT : 8/27/2015 9:09 pm : link
In comment 12438973 Andy in Boston said:
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Collins, Merriweather, Miles and Taylor.


Until Taylor goes on IR
I'm no Doctor  
ChathamMark : 8/27/2015 9:18 pm : link
but any surgery that involves 'blood clot', cannot be too promising.
RE: they brought back David Wilson too early, as well  
section125 : 8/27/2015 9:21 pm : link
In comment 12439069 SHO'NUFF said:
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we all know how that turned out.


He was never going to be well.
If  
AcidTest : 8/27/2015 9:42 pm : link
he has to go on blood thinners, then he's likely done for the year. They make you incredibly prone to bleeding, so football is forbidden.
Bold Ruler, et. al  
ThatLimerickGuy : 8/27/2015 9:54 pm : link
You guys need to shut the fuck up and wait for the information to come out before you post ridiculous asinine statements.

Dude has a blood clot in his leg. What the fuck do u want strength and conditioning staff to do about that? Jab a crazy straw in his leg and suck it out?

Sounds dangerous  
rdt288 : 8/27/2015 10:00 pm : link
Hope he heals quickly and returns.
The Giants are going to have a hell of a defensive backfield  
GeofromNJ : 8/27/2015 10:21 pm : link
next year, even if only half these surgeries are successful.
RE: looks like our safeties will be  
KeoweeFan : 8/27/2015 10:42 pm : link
In comment 12438973 Andy in Boston said:
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Collins, Merriweather, Miles and Taylor.
Hoping maybe a good safety gets cut somewhere....very possible.

Here's the optimism.
Reese gambled on Taylor, a GT freshman All American, who dropped in the draft because of a heart condition that forced him to take time off and subsequently switch schools (Richmond where he earned All American honors). The heart condition now is fine (but the toe, hamstring weren't). I'm hoping the gamble will pay off and at 6'4", 228 we have NY's answer to Cam Chancellor and a nice combo for Collins.
When the Saints were unloading all those players  
kelsto811 : 8/27/2015 10:56 pm : link
Kenny Vaccarro sure looks nice now
RE: RE: For a blood clot?  
Vanzetti : 8/28/2015 12:11 am : link
In comment 12439055 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 12439017 angeloj2 said:


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That's not on strength and conditioning. That's shit luck



Someone will find a way to blame the team,



What kind of diet are they feeding these guys that a twenty-five year old gets a blood clot? Total incompetence
Let's move on guys  
DavidinBMNY : 8/28/2015 12:35 am : link
We don't have much choice
If you have upcoming game tickets  
Gregorio : 8/28/2015 1:25 am : link
bring a helmet because chances are good the Giants will be looking for a warm body to play safety.
Blaming the training staff for David Wilson?  
Andy in Halifax : 8/28/2015 7:44 am : link
Good grief.
some people are not built  
HomerJones45 : 8/28/2015 7:51 am : link
To take the rigors of an NFL season.

Time to say thanks and good try and give the kid his injury settlement and walking papers.
Could use Rolle  
bluesince56 : 8/28/2015 8:05 am : link
right about now
I wish at some point..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/28/2015 8:32 am : link
people here would understand that compartment syndrome is not a minor thing and that blood clots are potentially life-threatening before going on rants blaming team trainers and doctors.

It is likely that Nicks damaged over half of the nerves and veins in his leg with his injury and will need to have compression therapy for the rest of his life. I know patients that don't enter that stage until they are 70!

If Berhe had a blood clot, and if it was a complication from compartment syndrome ,the combination of that is brutal. It isn't like he tweaked a calf muscle and just sits out the year for the fuck of it.
I just learned that..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/28/2015 8:34 am : link
Nat berhe needs to just suck it up with a blood clot and play until he strokes out and that the medical staff is responsible for David Wilson's neck injury.

I wish I could unlearn stupidity.
Our injury luck is incredible  
BeerFridge : 8/28/2015 8:37 am : link
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Wouldn't an MRI have revealed this?  
Victor in CT : 8/28/2015 8:51 am : link
why did they wait so long to do one?
sucks for him  
Ned In Atlanta : 8/28/2015 8:59 am : link
another mediocre safety bites the dust. Great work Jerry!
Nat is turning out to be a wasted pick  
nicky43 : 8/28/2015 9:02 am : link
How many minutes of playing time has he been available for so far since his arrival? Seems like this guy is always injured.
RE: Bold Ruler, et. al  
Chris in Philly : 8/28/2015 9:04 am : link
In comment 12439188 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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You guys need to shut the fuck up and wait for the information to come out before you post ridiculous asinine statements.

Dude has a blood clot in his leg. What the fuck do u want strength and conditioning staff to do about that? Jab a crazy straw in his leg and suck it out?


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Chef : 8/28/2015 9:17 am : link
RE: Wouldn't an MRI have revealed this?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/28/2015 9:20 am : link
In comment 12439513 Victor in CT said:
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why did they wait so long to do one?



They probably had no reason to assume a blood clot was occurring until he reported continued issues with the calf. The clot could also have happened while the calf was healing.

"Technically, yes. However most blood clots in the leg (aka DVT -- deep vein thrombosis) are diagnosed with ultrasound (read more here: http://blog.remakehealth.com/blog_Health...

The ultrasound test is less expensive and would take time than an MRI. Also, ultrasound tests are quite accurate and not only see clots but can tell if the clot completely blocks the vein or only partially blocks it. "
Also, this is kind of a cautionary story on how you don't  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/28/2015 9:26 am : link
want to create a culture of criticizing players as being 'not tough' for having or reporting injuries.

Blood clots are serious, and if not treated, potentially fatal.
As far as people jumping all over...  
okiegiant : 8/28/2015 9:27 am : link
the training staff/strength and conditioning...well I guess you have to blame someone.

I think some people just feel better saying this is so and so's fault as opposed to allowing that sometimes things just happen.

Closure maybe? It's an interesting response to the problems of the world.
How brutal does it get for the Giants at Safety?  
SGMen : 8/28/2015 9:28 am : link
Our injuries our just simply freaking "Out of this World" unbelievable.

We have to hope Collins, Taylor and ??? and ??? and ??? and ??? all stay healthy the rest of the way. Cooper Taylor starts now, in my mind, and I do believe he'll be OK if he can actually play healthy!
Cooper Taylor would have been the guy you EXPECT  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/28/2015 9:29 am : link
to lose to injury.

He's the one with a bad health history.
RE: Cooper Taylor would have been the guy you EXPECT  
Chef : 8/28/2015 9:31 am : link
In comment 12439605 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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to lose to injury.

He's the one with a bad health history.

Cooper Taylor had done 0 for this team...
RE: RE: Cooper Taylor would have been the guy you EXPECT  
okiegiant : 8/28/2015 9:35 am : link
In comment 12439609 Chef said:
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In comment 12439605 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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to lose to injury.

He's the one with a bad health history.


Cooper Taylor had done 0 for this team...


Berhe hasn't either.
if it was a hardened clot they removed,  
Randy in CT : 8/28/2015 9:40 am : link
I can see him being on short term IR.
RE: Nat is turning out to be a wasted pick  
bigbluescot : 8/28/2015 9:43 am : link
In comment 12439543 nicky43 said:
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How many minutes of playing time has he been available for so far since his arrival? Seems like this guy is always injured.


He missed one game (with a concussion sustained in his first game) is entire collegiate career.

And according to NFL.com he played 16 games (in special teams and spot duty admittedly) last year

Just crap luck with a persistent calf, really, but there was little previous history of injury and if you're making it through a 4 year college career only missing 1 game, you've toughed it out at least a couple of times.

RE: RE: RE: Cooper Taylor would have been the guy you EXPECT  
Enoch : 8/28/2015 9:43 am : link
In comment 12439621 okiegiant said:
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In comment 12439609 Chef said:


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In comment 12439605 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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to lose to injury.

He's the one with a bad health history.


Cooper Taylor had done 0 for this team...



Berhe hasn't either.


Nat played well on the coverage teams last year.
Enoch, you're right...I stand corrected.  
okiegiant : 8/28/2015 9:51 am : link
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RE: I just learned that..  
OC2.0 : 8/28/2015 9:52 am : link
In comment 12439483 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Nat berhe needs to just suck it up with a blood clot and play until he strokes out and that the medical staff is responsible for David Wilson's neck injury.

I wish I could unlearn stupidity.


Good luck with that 1.
Jesus  
OC2.0 : 8/28/2015 9:54 am : link
I guess the med staff is responsible for cancer as well. Gimme a fking break.
Just a little more  
ctc in ftmyers : 8/28/2015 10:01 am : link
insight on Lynch's tryout.

Assignment wise was not the problem.

They worked him out hard to see how close to game shape he was in.

Don't be surprised if you see his name called soon.

Don't be surprised if you don't.

just a snippet in the off season.
RE: I just learned that..  
Johnny Boy : 8/28/2015 10:32 am : link
In comment 12439483 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Nat berhe needs to just suck it up with a blood clot and play until he strokes out and that the medical staff is responsible for David Wilson's neck injury.

I wish I could unlearn stupidity.


I know what you mean. It's a burden one carries when your smarter then everyone else.
regression  
area junc : 8/28/2015 10:51 am : link
u gotta wonder what's up with cooper taylor. tom was raving about him last year (changed his body) and he looked like a man on a mission in preseason.

wonder if he just subconsciously said "f#ck it" and is now just playing out the string because thru the 1st 2 games he doesn't look like the same guy.haven't heard a peep from any of the coaches
Maybe it's my lack of  
ryanmkeane : 8/28/2015 11:21 am : link
medical knowledge, but I've played sports all my life and have literally never had a calf injury/had problems with my calf. I have to think it's like...the least injured part of the body. How does this happen??
From personal experience  
jpetuch : 8/28/2015 12:38 pm : link
My wife and I have suffered from blot clots and they are no joke. I developed phlebitis in my calf from a hematoma suffered by a HBP in a baseball game behind the knee. It creeps up on you and bam - you cant use your knee. My wife ont the other hand developed a clot in her calf that travelled to her lungs due to a medication switch and it is so dangerous that she needed major surgery on her right shoulder in March and was just cleared for September due to blood thinner treatment that took 6 months to be safe. She still needs a CT scan on her lungs to be officially cleared. It all started with her from just pain in her calf, no swelling. Basic curiousity just saved her from disaster. I'm sure others on this board have had same experiences.
RE: RE: Blue Hurricane  
kelsto811 : 8/28/2015 12:40 pm : link
In comment 12439051 Emil said:
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In comment 12439036 Arkbach said:


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those SBs will cost us big!



Let's hope not...but consider the numbers

1986 Superbowl win
fast forward four years to 1990 Superbowl win

Followed by the debacle that was the Dave Brown, Kent Graham, Danny Kanell 1990s.

2007 Superbowl win
fast forward four years to the 2011 Superbowl win

Followed by...

Look I'm not even a little stitious, but I don't even like thinking the team could be headed to another lost decade like the 1990s. All kidding aside, as long as Eli and OBJ are here, it will never be anything like the 1990s.
RE: Maybe it's my lack of  
Jimmy Googs : 8/28/2015 1:04 pm : link
In comment 12439853 ryanmkeane said:
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medical knowledge, but I've played sports all my life and have literally never had a calf injury/had problems with my calf. I have to think it's like...the least injured part of the body. How does this happen??


You never signed a contract to play for the NY Giants. That's how it happens...
Time for Richmond Flowers & Chuck Crist  
yalebowl : 8/28/2015 5:21 pm : link
To suit up.
Behre doesn't think he's going to be IR'd  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2015 5:30 pm : link
or he doesn't understand how IR works.

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RjL @RjL29_NYG
@NatBerhe hey nat, is there any chance you playing this season


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Nat Berhe ‏@NatBerhe 10m10 minutes ago

Nat Berhe retweeted RjL

Yes, a high chance


I legit don't know what to say at this point.  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/28/2015 5:52 pm : link
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lay medical comments on this thread border on idiocy but plain  
plato : 8/28/2015 7:32 pm : link
stupidity will do
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