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sshin05 : 8/28/2015 4:19 pm
Mets

Granderson RF
Cespedes LF
Wright 3B
Cuddyer 1B
Flores 2B
dArnaud C
Tejada SS
Harvey RHP

Red Sox

Betts CF
Sandoval 3B
Bogaerts SS
Ortiz 1B
Ramirez LF
Holt 2B
Castillo RF
Swihart C
Owens LHP

Harvey Day!
Noted  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 4:20 pm : link
it on the other thread but looks like Duda will be out a while longer. Hopefully not too much.
Who's playing CF? Lagares?  
speedywheels : 8/28/2015 4:26 pm : link
DMM - of COURSE Duda will be out longer. They haven't had anyone come back on time yet this season, why start now?
Id put Cuddyer in RF  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 4:26 pm : link
and have Uribe at first, lol. A complete righthanded hitting lineup where 7 out of 8 kill lefties. Haha.
Lagares is  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 4:26 pm : link
in CF
..  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 4:28 pm : link
Scarlyn Reyes brings a 1.33 August era into his final start of the month #Mets


Prevost's K rate sucks, 0 homers allowed though... Koch 2.0? lol

Gotta believe he's a SP for the 2016 Cyclones

http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?si ... g/2015/ALL
Red Sox are a tough  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2015 4:28 pm : link
matchup for the Mets IMO.

this will be a good test.
bad job copying and pasting  
sshin05 : 8/28/2015 4:37 pm : link
Juan Lagares CF
Granderson RF
Cespedes LF
Wright 3B
Cuddyer 1B
Flores 2B
dArnaud C
Tejada SS
Harvey RHP
Mark  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 4:37 pm : link
Simon had a piece on Cespedes and the hole in his swing vs. lefties. Something to watch going forward especially with Kershaw, Bumgarner, Lester etc as possible opponents.
Sox  
sshin05 : 8/28/2015 4:44 pm : link
relief pitching, dead last in fwar. Outside of the japanese pitchers, everybody else pretty much not good.
,  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 4:47 pm : link
Gordon Edes @GordonEdes
Hanley Ramirez is scratched from Sox lineup; Jackie Bradley Jr in left
Red Sox have been raking  
Rflairr : 8/28/2015 4:49 pm : link
Since the All Star break
RE: ,  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2015 4:49 pm : link
In comment 12440410 DanMetroMan said:
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Gordon Edes @GordonEdes
Hanley Ramirez is scratched from Sox lineup; Jackie Bradley Jr in left


addition by subtraction for the Red Sox, Hanley has been a disaster, and JBJ is on fire (or was, haven't kept up)
Hanley  
DanMetroMan : 8/28/2015 4:55 pm : link
is a 1b next year lol
RE: Hanley  
sshin05 : 8/28/2015 5:10 pm : link
In comment 12440420 DanMetroMan said:
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is a 1b next year lol


I read about that, that's crazy
where are the velocity  
CMicks3110 : 8/28/2015 7:14 pm : link
readings?
RE: where are the velocity  
JayBinQueens : 8/28/2015 7:37 pm : link
In comment 12440578 CMicks3110 said:
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readings?


was thinking the same thing
Scherzer getting pelted again. Nats down 4-1 early.  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 8:01 pm : link
#partoftheplan
I thought that was gone  
steve in ky : 8/28/2015 8:04 pm : link
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Who is making NL playoffs?  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 8/28/2015 8:05 pm : link
Cards, Mets, Dodgers, Pirates, and Cubs?
RE: Who is making NL playoffs?  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 8:09 pm : link
In comment 12440614 SanFranNowNCGiantsFan said:
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Cards, Mets, Dodgers, Pirates, and Cubs?


Uh. All of them?
RE: Scherzer getting pelted again. Nats down 4-1 early.  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 8:09 pm : link
In comment 12440610 arcarsenal said:
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#partoftheplan


He's been getting his teeth kicked in lately.
TDA is  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 8:24 pm : link
the best player in all of baseball. STUD. ;)
Flores made  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2015 8:25 pm : link
two mistakes on the base paths and scored. LOL.
Thank the good lord  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 8:30 pm : link
Sandy never entertained Hanley Ramirez. Holy smokes has he been awful. -1.6 WAR?? LOLZ.
Yeah, holy shit was I wrong on that one..  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 8:34 pm : link
I thought we should have signed him at the time.
Jacoby Elsbury, Robinson Cano  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 8:36 pm : link
Choo. They have all been disaster signings. Not one of them is giving even replacement level production. lol
I wanted to sign all those  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2015 8:43 pm : link
guys except Choo. I thought Hanley at SS could change the lineup, Cano would have solved 2b for the next decade, Ellsbury lead off and CF, etc.

At this point, I'm glad they signed none of them.

I also wanted to sign Scherzer and Lester.
Its one reason I won't be upset  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 8:51 pm : link
if we don't sign Cespedes. I hope we make him a fair offer. But I don't want to go crazy for a 30 year old. We all get thirsty over the "names" but guys in their 30s just don't play well for 6 or 7 years in the post-steroid era anymore. It just doesn't happen. It will almost assuredly end up a bad deal for us. Look no further than our own David Wright. Love the guy but his contract is going to be terrible ifs not already.

Nice  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2015 8:52 pm : link
hustle Wright, I thought he was gunned there. Both runs should have been gunned at the plate.
Haha  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 8:52 pm : link
Nice! Ill take it. That was bad news bears shit.
both runs  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 8:52 pm : link
should have been thrown out at home. lol
My heart just stopped watching DW slide home.  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 8:52 pm : link
I hold my breath every time he has to do anything remotely physical.
Paying out a mega-contract rarely goes well but Hanley's contract was  
Eric on Li : 8/28/2015 8:54 pm : link
relatively reasonable.

They need to tell Wright to cool it with the aggressive base running until the World Series.
A ham sandwich would have been unreasonable  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 8:58 pm : link
for Hanley. Lol. The Red Sox are a worst team for him just being alive. He is that horrid.
Some dude on MMO posted salaries for next year and I thought it was  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 9:00 pm : link
reasonable. He has us re-signing Murphy at 12 million a year and Cespedes for 25 million per. Plus re-signing Blevins... He also factors in the entire 40 man where Sandy only factors in about 5-10 extra. Anyways...


Here it is, the projected 2016 Mets payroll for w/Cespedes -$137million

Starting Offense - $96.5million

Wright - 20

Cuddy - 12.5

Cespedes - 25

Grandy - 16

Lagares - 2.5

Duda - 8.0

TdA - .5

Murph - 12

Bench - $9.5million

Flores - .5

Plawecki - .5

Herrera - .5

Tejada - $3.0

Conforto - 5.0

Starters - $16.5million

Niese - 9

Harvey - 6?

deGrom - .5

Thor - .5

Matz - .5

Bullpen - $6.0million

Familia - .5

Blevins - 3.0

Torres - .5

Verrett - .5

Edgin - .5

Goeddel - .5

Robles - .5

Rest of potential 40 man - $8.5million

Wheeler - .5

Recker - 1.0

Alvarez - .5

Black - .5

Campbell - .5

Ceciliani - .5

Gilmartin - .5

Monell - .5

Morris - .5

Muno - .5

Tovar - .5

Tnoa - .5

Nimmo - .5

Kirk - .5

40th guy - .5
What's cool about that  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 9:02 pm : link
is even with Murphy and Cespedes the payroll is only around 135. You subtract Murphy and now your down to 123 million. The payroll right now is around 116. Your basically right there. Its very doable. And this is very conservative offering more than we probably even would.
Yup.  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 9:03 pm : link
Harvey is the fucking man.
RE: both runs  
steve in ky : 8/28/2015 9:03 pm : link
In comment 12440677 ZGiants98 said:
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should have been thrown out at home. lol


This season has begun to have that destiny feeling to it.
RE: RE: both runs  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 9:08 pm : link
In comment 12440690 steve in ky said:
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In comment 12440677 ZGiants98 said:


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should have been thrown out at home. lol



This season has begun to have that destiny feeling to it.


Soon as the Flores trade fell through the Karma Gods have been on our side. ;) God is a Flores fan.
Mother fucker  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 9:23 pm : link
damn it
Still can't get this 7th inning figured out.  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 9:23 pm : link
Motherfucker.
Need to fix  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2015 9:25 pm : link
this bullpen. In a playoff game I think Harvey goes out for the 7th, but nonetheless the bullpen is an issue.
Poor Harvey  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 9:25 pm : link
The 7th should be Robles. Verrett has been good but he's gone from starting to relieving all in a week. I wouldn't have had him in such a crucial spot so early.
Harvey  
KWhite2250 : 8/28/2015 9:25 pm : link
Has to hate this shit. How many gms do the fuck up when he leaves with a lead?
Great day for Verrett to have nothing in the tank.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/28/2015 9:27 pm : link
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Harvey...I bet we have blown more wins for Harvey than the  
PhiPsi125 : 8/28/2015 9:28 pm : link
actual number of wins he has. For someone as competitive has Harvey, it has to eat him up playing for the mets.
We really should have beaten up Owens more than we did  
PhiPsi125 : 8/28/2015 9:31 pm : link
He was not good. But it also helps when the ump gives you strikes that were in the other batters box.
The Sox bullpen  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2015 9:31 pm : link
can be scored on.

Come on  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 9:37 pm : link
Cuddy. Do it again!
We can do this.  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 9:39 pm : link
Let's fucking go.
Juiced!  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 9:42 pm : link
Let's go!
Beautiful atbat Cudds  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 9:43 pm : link
Here comes Mr. Clutch.
Damn it.  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 9:44 pm : link
Boo.
God damnit.  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 9:44 pm : link
Come on, Trav.
Cannot let them off the hook  
PhiPsi125 : 8/28/2015 9:45 pm : link
Come on TdA!
Come on TDA  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 9:45 pm : link
Damn Citi is rocking.
We are bailing him out.. he's not throwing strikes.  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 9:46 pm : link
.
See  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 9:47 pm : link
.
WHOOOO!!  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 9:47 pm : link
Fucking love this team!
Sweet!!!  
PhiPsi125 : 8/28/2015 9:47 pm : link
Tie game!
Great fucking eyes  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 9:47 pm : link
by Cuddyer and TDA.
This guy is gonna have trouble throwing strikes too  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 9:50 pm : link
Be patient
Ugh.  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 9:51 pm : link
Come on man. Take more than 1 pitch.
RE: Ugh.  
PhiPsi125 : 8/28/2015 9:53 pm : link
In comment 12440735 arcarsenal said:
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Come on man. Take more than 1 pitch.


Yeah, i don't know what Flores or Tejada were doing. I'd have to believe that the coaches would tell them to take pitches, right? Maybe not?
Ramos gets Ramos  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 9:54 pm : link
One more out baby!
GAME!!!  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 9:55 pm : link
NATS LOSE!!!!!!!!
RE: GAME!!!  
feelflows : 8/28/2015 9:56 pm : link
In comment 12440740 ZGiants98 said:
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NATS LOSE!!!!!!!!


now it's time to TCOB

let's go boys..
LOLNats..  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 9:56 pm : link
Lost AGAIN with Scherzer on the mound.

All part of the plan...
7 games up  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 9:56 pm : link
bitchez! Now lets win this game!
Funny thing is if we were  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 9:58 pm : link
7 games down right now we would all be talking about 2016. No way any of us would think we even had a remote chance.

Fat lady isn't singing yet but damn if she's not warming up.
lets win this game  
spike : 8/28/2015 9:59 pm : link
and put more nails in the Nats coffin
I actually have a weird  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 9:59 pm : link
fear that MDD is going to come up on fire(like he did last year for us un August/September) and help ignite that team. But nah...
Beautiful job  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 10:00 pm : link
Clipp.
Denard Span  
spike : 8/28/2015 10:00 pm : link
is a big loss for the Nats
Ortiz and Panda gone?  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 10:03 pm : link
Ummm. ok.
RE: Denard Span  
PhiPsi125 : 8/28/2015 10:03 pm : link
In comment 12440752 spike said:
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is a big loss for the Nats


Maybe he should have kept his mouth shut. Now he can bet all he wants.
Sox have a lot  
Deej : 8/28/2015 10:04 pm : link
Of legit fat players.
hate to harp on it  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2015 10:09 pm : link
but man this team could use Mejia.

that 7th inning would have been his. he let this team down. Mejia, Clippard, Familia would have been a trio I'd be comfortable with.

even without being post-season eligible, they could have used Mejia to get there.

And then the Parnell meltdown didn't help.

Between Parnell, Mejia, and even Edgin, the Mets lost some potentially good back of the bullpen arms.

otherwise I think they might have to give Matz some regular season relief appearances if they plan to use him out of the pen in the playoffs.

This splitter he's throwing now is a completely unfair pitch.  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 10:14 pm : link
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RE: hate to harp on it  
spike : 8/28/2015 10:15 pm : link
In comment 12440763 pjcas18 said:
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but man this team could use Mejia.

that 7th inning would have been his. he let this team down. Mejia, Clippard, Familia would have been a trio I'd be comfortable with.

even without being post-season eligible, they could have used Mejia to get there.

And then the Parnell meltdown didn't help.

Between Parnell, Mejia, and even Edgin, the Mets lost some potentially good back of the bullpen arms.

otherwise I think they might have to give Matz some regular season relief appearances if they plan to use him out of the pen in the playoffs.


Exactly. Now it has to be Robles-Clippard-Familia. Robles has earned this 7th inning job.
That splitter  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 10:15 pm : link
is fucking disgusting!
Familia  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2015 10:15 pm : link
is dealing some nasty stuff.

he needs glasses though
Omg  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 10:17 pm : link
Familia. We have fucking wild thing as our closer. Rick Vaughn. lol
RE: Familia  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 10:17 pm : link
In comment 12440771 pjcas18 said:
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is dealing some nasty stuff.

he needs glasses though


Haha. Same thought.
Middle of the order coming up  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 10:18 pm : link
time to send the crowd home happy.
let's  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2015 10:18 pm : link
walk this off
99 MPH sinker  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 10:19 pm : link
89 MPH slider. 95 mph splitter that drops two feet. lol. My god.
There's the winning run  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 10:20 pm : link
Come on Wright.
Wright  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2015 10:21 pm : link
used to murder lefties. like to see him return to form
Is it weird that the only concern now is peaking too soon?  
Eric on Li : 8/28/2015 10:22 pm : link
I mean this team is talented and confident enough to compete with anyone, bar none. The lineup is deep and dangerous. The rotation is as good as any. The BP is a little weak but has a lights out closer. What an amazing August.

they shoudve saved Verrett  
spike : 8/28/2015 10:24 pm : link
as the long man and use Robles in the 7th.
RE: Is it weird that the only concern now is peaking too soon?  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2015 10:25 pm : link
In comment 12440785 Eric on Li said:
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I mean this team is talented and confident enough to compete with anyone, bar none. The lineup is deep and dangerous. The rotation is as good as any. The BP is a little weak but has a lights out closer. What an amazing August.


Yes a little weird, the bottom line is to build a collapse proof lead. And get in the playoffs as a division winner, not as the wild card.

Once in the playoffs this rotation will have a chance to shine and hopefully some timely hitting and the team could do damage.

If this was football I could see the concern maybe, especially with the Giants propensity for losing streaks, I wouldn't worry about it in baseball.
Uggghhhhh  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 10:26 pm : link
.
That was awful  
PhiPsi125 : 8/28/2015 10:27 pm : link
How does that happen?
What the fuck, Lagares?!  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 10:27 pm : link
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Bullpen is very thin  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2015 10:28 pm : link
not a lot of reliable arms.

and Swihart can move for a catcher, but that was ugly
Was a homerun anyways  
Eric on Li : 8/28/2015 10:28 pm : link
it was such a weird bounce I guess it shouldn't be a shock.
It was a HR  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 10:29 pm : link
Geezus.
The problem is relying Cespedes to hustle on any play  
PhiPsi125 : 8/28/2015 10:29 pm : link
Because he rarely does

But it was a HR anyway, so it's all moot.
wheres  
spike : 8/28/2015 10:30 pm : link
Mr Robles?
Is Robles and Gilmartin  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 10:30 pm : link
unavailable? Wouldn't we use our better arms first?
Yeah, I didn't think it was a HR off the wall.  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 10:30 pm : link
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Robles has pitched a bunch lately.  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 10:31 pm : link
Probably needs a night off. Gilmartin has basically never pitched 2 days in a row this year
Lol, Cespedes never took his hands off his knees  
PhiPsi125 : 8/28/2015 10:33 pm : link
Thanks for this season and I hope you enjoyed the crabs, but his lack of hustle is a huge red flag for me. I just don't like it.
C Torres  
spike : 8/28/2015 10:35 pm : link
went from hero to goat in a hurry!
Torres isn't fooling anyone  
PhiPsi125 : 8/28/2015 10:35 pm : link
Not looking forward to him pitching in the playoffs, should we get there.
Really don't think  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 10:36 pm : link
C. Torres and EOF are making a playoff roster. They will be replaced by Goedell and Alvarez.
Well if we finally lose, at least the Nats lost  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 10:37 pm : link
also.
Only a few more days and then we'll have other options  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 10:37 pm : link
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Torres is throwing BP - Granderson actually made a good throw too  
Eric on Li : 8/28/2015 10:38 pm : link
Good innings eater and decent long man, but I'd get nervous if he ever had to pitch in a big game. Seems like a good guy just hard to get by without stuff.
with 2nd and 3rd  
spike : 8/28/2015 10:38 pm : link
they shouldve brought in Robles for a strikeout
This pen is worn out  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 10:39 pm : link
Lots of extra innings games. Feel like we have two or three guys unavailable almost every night. September can't get here soon enough.
Did you get a good enough look Terry?  
PhiPsi125 : 8/28/2015 10:39 pm : link
Jesus Christ
Thanks for that  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 10:39 pm : link
Carlos. geezus.
The human white flag is out  
spike : 8/28/2015 10:40 pm : link
aka EOF
RE: Lol, Cespedes never took his hands off his knees  
Ralph.C : 8/28/2015 10:41 pm : link
In comment 12440803 PhiPsi125 said:
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Thanks for this season and I hope you enjoyed the crabs, but his lack of hustle is a huge red flag for me. I just don't like it.


Me too. That was shocking. I speculate that he was pouting about being moved to left from center. It looked like he was making a statement like "Fine, you move me to left. I'll only move when the ball is hit to left.

He just ruined a lot of "feel good." Now I know why he has been moved so much. You're an every day player on a first place team and you do that? Keeps his hands on his fucking knees during a play?

Fuck him. As much as he has done. Fuck him.
Can't win them all but  
PhiPsi125 : 8/28/2015 10:41 pm : link
I just hate losing to the lovable, media darling Red Sox.
Need to win the deGrom  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2015 10:42 pm : link
game tomorrow.

can't lose both Harvey and deGrom starts. that would allow a potential losing streak.
RE: Can't win them all but  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 10:44 pm : link
In comment 12440821 PhiPsi125 said:
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I just hate losing to the lovable, media darling Red Sox.


We should have had this game when the bases were loaded. We were set up beautifully and Clippard and Familia were nasty tonight. That was the game right there.
I think Cespedes thought the ball was gone  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 10:46 pm : link
and after it went off the wall assumed he was way too far away at that point. Obviously it looked really bad but I need to see more than one example of this before before I crucify the guy.
RE: RE: Can't win them all but  
PhiPsi125 : 8/28/2015 10:46 pm : link
In comment 12440827 ZGiants98 said:
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In comment 12440821 PhiPsi125 said:


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I just hate losing to the lovable, media darling Red Sox.



We should have had this game when the bases were loaded. We were set up beautifully and Clippard and Familia were nasty tonight. That was the game right there.


Yeah, I was thinking about that too. We let them off the hook all game. Would have liked to have this game with the nats loss. Oh well.
we lost when Torres came in  
spike : 8/28/2015 10:46 pm : link
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And pouting about moving from CF to LF  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 10:47 pm : link
makes no sense, sorry. He loves LF and prefers to play LF actually.
RE: I think Cespedes thought the ball was gone  
Shecky : 8/28/2015 10:48 pm : link
In comment 12440831 ZGiants98 said:
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and after it went off the wall assumed he was way too far away at that point. Obviously it looked really bad but I need to see more than one example of this before before I crucify the guy.


Z. I know you always look for the positive, but even you have to admit that's stretching. Inexcusable play, or lack of play, by Cespedes.
RE: RE: I think Cespedes thought the ball was gone  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 10:51 pm : link
In comment 12440840 Shecky said:
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In comment 12440831 ZGiants98 said:


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and after it went off the wall assumed he was way too far away at that point. Obviously it looked really bad but I need to see more than one example of this before before I crucify the guy.



Z. I know you always look for the positive, but even you have to admit that's stretching. Inexcusable play, or lack of play, by Cespedes.


Im not saying it didn't look bad or it may have not even been bad, but like I said, I need to see more before I make a decision about whether he's lazy or whatever. He's been here a month and thats the first Ive ever seen anything and the ball was gone anyway. The whole thing was moot.
RE: I think Cespedes thought the ball was gone  
sphinx : 8/28/2015 10:51 pm : link
In comment 12440831 ZGiants98 said:
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and after it went off the wall assumed he was way too far away at that point. Obviously it looked really bad but I need to see more than one example of this before before I crucify the guy.

You can't be serious.

RE: I think Cespedes thought the ball was gone  
PhiPsi125 : 8/28/2015 10:51 pm : link
In comment 12440831 ZGiants98 said:
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and after it went off the wall assumed he was way too far away at that point. Obviously it looked really bad but I need to see more than one example of this before before I crucify the guy.


Lol, really? Cespedes has had a lot headscratchers in his short time here. I've seen plenty of examples to feel concerned.

Doesn't matter anyway. Cespedes screams of a guy that will play for the one team that pays a penny more than the next guy...even if he has to play on the moon. He doesn't give a shit about the mets.
who gives a shit  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2015 10:53 pm : link
if he can help the Mets win a world series this year I don't care if he goes to the Phillies or Braves and makes a career out of pounding the Mets.

There is NO EXCUSE  
Ralph.C : 8/28/2015 10:53 pm : link
For not moving at all
I mean Lagares  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 10:54 pm : link
didn't jog after the ball either because he "assumed" it was gone. Nobody's blasting him and it allowed a go ahead HR if that wasn't over the line. Whatever. Im not defending Cespedes on that play. I just hadn't really noticed anything that egregious until now.
RE: I mean Lagares  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2015 10:56 pm : link
In comment 12440849 ZGiants98 said:
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didn't jog after the ball either because he "assumed" it was gone. Nobody's blasting him and it allowed a go ahead HR if that wasn't over the line. Whatever. Im not defending Cespedes on that play. I just hadn't really noticed anything that egregious until now.

Lagares jogged after it sort of gingerly, my first thought was that Lagares was injured, not that he thought it was gone, but it was gone and he had the best view of it, so maybe that is his excuse.
Why didnt Flores try to steal 2nd base  
spike : 8/28/2015 10:56 pm : link
to prevent the DP?
RE: There is NO EXCUSE  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 10:57 pm : link
In comment 12440847 Ralph.C said:
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For not moving at all


He was a country mile away from the ball at that point. He should have been running toward center as soon as the ball was hit, but the way he reacted made it appear to me that he thought it was gone (which it was) Ive seen many OF stand still when HR get blasted over their heads. Not a fan of it, but it happens pretty regularly.
Conforto is such a freaking stud  
Eric on Li : 8/28/2015 10:57 pm : link
might have the best eye on the team already.
they ahve to pinch hit for Lagares as the tying run  
spike : 8/28/2015 10:57 pm : link
0 for 5 with 3 Ks is not a good night.

Uribe?
RE: I mean Lagares  
PhiPsi125 : 8/28/2015 10:58 pm : link
In comment 12440849 ZGiants98 said:
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didn't jog after the ball either because he "assumed" it was gone. Nobody's blasting him and it allowed a go ahead HR if that wasn't over the line. Whatever. Im not defending Cespedes on that play. I just hadn't really noticed anything that egregious until now.


Lol, defending Cespedes is EXACTLY what you are doing. And Lagares was staring at the ball when it hit above the line. It wasn't that close. And the next time Cespedes runs out a ground ball will be his first. I've also seen him strike out on a third pitch that got away from the catcher, stare at the ball as it rolls away and slowly walk back to the dugout instead of running to first. This dude does not give a shit. Ton of talent though.
Cuban baseball  
spike : 8/28/2015 11:00 pm : link
must have different rules lol
The bases are loaded, dudes...  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 11:00 pm : link
.
Uribe walked!  
spike : 8/28/2015 11:01 pm : link
must be a blue moon..

MVP Grandy is up
We need the Rallykeet  
PhiPsi125 : 8/28/2015 11:02 pm : link
.
Ruh roh....  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 11:04 pm : link
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Come on Cespedes  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 11:04 pm : link
single ties it.
be patient  
spike : 8/28/2015 11:05 pm : link
Cespedes!
This is insane  
Eric on Li : 8/28/2015 11:05 pm : link
Craig Breslow vs. Cespedes for the ball game.
Just watched the replay of that inside the parker  
Giants4246 : 8/28/2015 11:06 pm : link
Cespedes was a fucking statue in LF. That was disgraceful.
Lefty pitcher coming up...tall order for Cespedes  
PhiPsi125 : 8/28/2015 11:06 pm : link
Let's go big guy.
Team of destiny  
KWhite2250 : 8/28/2015 11:06 pm : link
For sure if they somehow pull this one out
Damnit.  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 11:09 pm : link
.
Game  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 11:10 pm : link
fuck. Way to make it interesting at least guys.
You lose a game where the other team gives up 12 walks  
PhiPsi125 : 8/28/2015 11:10 pm : link
and that's really piss poor.
oh well  
spike : 8/28/2015 11:10 pm : link
Torres cannot give up more than 1 run and TC shouldve pulled him sooner
RE: oh well  
PhiPsi125 : 8/28/2015 11:12 pm : link
In comment 12440880 spike said:
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Torres cannot give up more than 1 run and TC shouldve pulled him sooner


That's my only complaint. I'm sure the BP was thin, but it was obvious that Torres wasn't fooling anyone. Poor job keeping him out there.
If Robles and Gilmartin  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 11:18 pm : link
were truly unavailable then who else was left? And if they were available they should have been used first.

It just sucks. We have 4 studs in our pen and Clippard/Familia is easily the best setup man/closer combination of any of the teams in the league going to the playoffs. Verrett had been good but is still green and Torres is fine as your last man in the/mop up guy. We really need to get these guys rested and just fine tweak the pen a little. Dario Alvarez over EOF is beyond obvious. We have some guy like Goedell and Black that may challenge C. Torres for his spot as well. And of course we are still moving a very good starter there eventually. The pen is going to be fine. Tonight it was just burnt to a crisp.
tick, tick, tick  
sphinx : 8/28/2015 11:18 pm : link
163 - 71 - 63 = 29

A tick a day keeps the gnats away.

RE: If Robles and Gilmartin  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2015 11:25 pm : link
In comment 12440888 ZGiants98 said:
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were truly unavailable then who else was left? And if they were available they should have been used first.

It just sucks. We have 4 studs in our pen and Clippard/Familia is easily the best setup man/closer combination of any of the teams in the league going to the playoffs. Verrett had been good but is still green and Torres is fine as your last man in the/mop up guy. We really need to get these guys rested and just fine tweak the pen a little. Dario Alvarez over EOF is beyond obvious. We have some guy like Goedell and Black that may challenge C. Torres for his spot as well. And of course we are still moving a very good starter there eventually. The pen is going to be fine. Tonight it was just burnt to a crisp.


He basically just said those guys weren't available. We really didn't have much of a choice. The roster expansion is coming at a much needed time.
RE: If Robles and Gilmartin  
PhiPsi125 : 8/28/2015 11:25 pm : link
In comment 12440888 ZGiants98 said:
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were truly unavailable then who else was left? And if they were available they should have been used first.

It just sucks. We have 4 studs in our pen and Clippard/Familia is easily the best setup man/closer combination of any of the teams in the league going to the playoffs. Verrett had been good but is still green and Torres is fine as your last man in the/mop up guy. We really need to get these guys rested and just fine tweak the pen a little. Dario Alvarez over EOF is beyond obvious. We have some guy like Goedell and Black that may challenge C. Torres for his spot as well. And of course we are still moving a very good starter there eventually. The pen is going to be fine. Tonight it was just burnt to a crisp.


I'm not arguing that the BP wasn't thin, but you can't tell me that nobody was available. If that's the case then it was just poor BP management by TC in an extra inning game. But seriously, it's one game. We need to win tomorrow.

I hated seeing the Red Sox on the schedule when I looked a month ago. I hate interleague play. It's run its course.
Yeah its looking like those guys  
ZGiants98 : 8/28/2015 11:27 pm : link
really weren't available. Makes more sense now. I then might question pulling Harvey who was begging to go back in the 7th. I get shaving an inning but if you know you are working with that short of a bullpen you have to let him pitch the 7th. You can't cut corners EVERYWHERE.
Don't know why he went with Torres  
Vanzetti : 8/29/2015 2:59 am : link
who pitched more than either Robles or Gilmartin the other night


But you can always quibble with stuff after a tough loss

Mets just couldn't get the hits with Risp tonight
RE: You lose a game where the other team gives up 12 walks  
Giants4246 : 8/29/2015 6:38 am : link
In comment 12440879 PhiPsi125 said:
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and that's really piss poor.


Yep, and it looks even worse when the go ahead run was scored on an inside the park HR hit to centerfield that maybe could have been limited to a double if the LFer actually moved to assist on the play.
I get perverse pleasure  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 7:51 am : link
to a degree sticking it to the Nats and their fans.If the Mets won and the Nats won, " what are you going to do?" BUT the Mets lose and the Nats don't capitalize, that hurts. Magic number down to 29. Let's Go Mets!
RE: RE: You lose a game where the other team gives up 12 walks  
schabadoo : 8/29/2015 8:04 am : link
In comment 12440937 Giants4246 said:
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In comment 12440879 PhiPsi125 said:


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and that's really piss poor.



Yep, and it looks even worse when the go ahead run was scored on an inside the park HR hit to centerfield that maybe could have been limited to a double if the LFer actually moved to assist on the play.


The ball went out I thought.
It did.  
arcarsenal : 8/29/2015 8:52 am : link
Lagares knew it when it happened, that's why he pulled up after it bounced off the wall.
RE: It did.  
spike : 8/29/2015 9:14 am : link
In comment 12440981 arcarsenal said:
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Lagares knew it when it happened, that's why he pulled up after it bounced off the wall.


Let's switch gears for a minute  
pganut : 8/29/2015 9:58 am : link
My sons, almost age 11, have now been sucked into the Mets' resurgence enough to now want jerseys. If this was 3 years ago, I'd still have gone with DW for at least one. Thinking about longevity (knowing that's a moving target), who would you go with for 2 kids? I'm thinking de Grom for sure for one. What say you?
RE: Let's switch gears for a minute  
spike : 8/29/2015 10:43 am : link
In comment 12441038 pganut said:
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My sons, almost age 11, have now been sucked into the Mets' resurgence enough to now want jerseys. If this was 3 years ago, I'd still have gone with DW for at least one. Thinking about longevity (knowing that's a moving target), who would you go with for 2 kids? I'm thinking de Grom for sure for one. What say you?


Conforto or Syndergaard. But honestly, they would probably want Harvey and DeGrom
deGrom is pretty much a must based on the criteria.  
arcarsenal : 8/29/2015 10:45 am : link
Harvey would be another good one.

And of course.. Wilmer!
Thanks  
pganut : 8/29/2015 10:49 am : link
I'd normally have said Harvey is a no-brained, but given Boras as his agent and the known fact he grew up a Yankees fan, I have that nagging feeling that if he doesn't win a title with the Mets during his current contract, he's a sure thing to bolt when he hits FA.
LOL  
pganut : 8/29/2015 10:49 am : link
No-brainer, that is. Nice job, autocorrect.
Honestly, Wright is "safe" no matter what.  
arcarsenal : 8/29/2015 10:53 am : link
He's the 2nd most valuable Met in franchise history after Seaver. Even if his career ended early, he's going to have had played all of it here regardless. And I think he'll be around a bit longer anyway.
If I were getting a Jersey I think I'd go Conforto  
Eric on Li : 8/29/2015 11:31 am : link
or maybe Matz. Harvey, JdG and Wright have to be the top 3 most common by a pretty healthy margin. Conforto and Matz should be slightly more unique. I would not get a Carlos Torres.
how popular  
spike : 8/29/2015 11:48 am : link
are the Flores jerseys nowadays?
Best non trade part II  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 11:51 am : link
Jay Bruce for Wheeler. Bruce was hiring .257 at the time and is now hitting .229. You have to slump big time to drop 30 points off your batting average
this late into the season. Phew!
Flores can do no wrong  
Vanzetti : 8/29/2015 11:59 am : link
Was at the game last night and they cheer everything he does. Wright still generates the loudest buzz but Flores is right there.

Of course, that's also because the Mets have buzz now, so a lot of the people in the stadium are not diehard fans like the people on this thread.
Minors-  
DanMetroMan : 8/29/2015 12:02 pm : link
Bowman (he has 15 losses for a team 14 games over .500, wowzas)
Lara
Taylor
Arias
Kingsport- Gonzalez
BK-Badamo
So  
DanMetroMan : 8/29/2015 12:03 pm : link
the 51's are 67-45 in games where someone other than Bowman has the decision lol
Kershaw  
DanMetroMan : 8/29/2015 12:06 pm : link
quietly having a year for the ages. On pace for 8.2 fWAR. Last 8+ WAR season was Halladay in 2011. 4 8+ seasons since 2013

Halladay, Greinke, Randy Johnson and... Ben Sheets!
If the Mets can get the no 2 seeding  
spike : 8/29/2015 1:27 pm : link
they can very well have home advantage throughout the NL playoffs, if the Cards lose to the Pirates/Cubs.

Too bad the NL lost in the all star game this season
RE: Kershaw  
arcarsenal : 8/29/2015 1:38 pm : link
In comment 12441149 DanMetroMan said:
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quietly having a year for the ages. On pace for 8.2 fWAR. Last 8+ WAR season was Halladay in 2011. 4 8+ seasons since 2013

Halladay, Greinke, Randy Johnson and... Ben Sheets!


Holy shit.. Ben Sheets. I haven't seen his name in a long time.
Rubin reporting the  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2015 2:08 pm : link
Mets after a reliever.
.  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2015 2:09 pm : link
Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN 5m5 minutes ago
Hearing #Mets making progress on acquiring reliever. No guarantee something comes together, but tangible talks.
also  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2015 2:10 pm : link
Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN 9m9 minutes ago
David Wright experiencing shoulder stiffness http://es.pn/1ItkrYK #NYM #Mets
Here we go...  
arcarsenal : 8/29/2015 2:26 pm : link
I'm just going to save myself the disappointment now and expect that he's going to end up back on the DL sooner than later.
I think we have a top  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2015 2:47 pm : link
3-4 bullpen in the league but if we get Darin O'Day also, forget about it.
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we need 1 more piece  
CGiants07 : 8/29/2015 2:49 pm : link
if terry isnt going to trust robles especially with o flaherty struggling to be kind
..  
CGiants07 : 8/29/2015 2:51 pm : link
Anthony DiComo ‏@AnthonyDiComo now11 seconds ago
You may have read that Wright is sore. He is. It's normal and absolutely nothing to do with his back. He'll almost certainly play tomorrow.
RE: we need 1 more piece  
ZGiants98 : 8/29/2015 2:55 pm : link
In comment 12441275 CGiants07 said:
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if terry isnt going to trust robles especially with o flaherty struggling to be kind


I think Terry trusts Robles. The dude played three days in a row and two innings on his last day. The pen was just taxed and certain players weren't available last night. Some still aren't as Colon might be coming out of the pen tonight!
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