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| Animal Rescue League pulls event from Heinz Field over Vick signing Posted by Michael David Smith on August 29, 2015, 11:36 AM EDT The Steelers are continuing to face backlash from dog lovers over the signing of Michael Vick. The latest comes from the Animal Rescue League, which has pulled an October event from Heinz Field because it doesn’t want to have any connection to Vick, who was convicted of a felony for his involvement in a dog fighting ring. “While we understand that Mr. Vick has made an effort to atone for his past mistakes and has worked to help strengthen animal abuse laws, we do not believe that it is appropriate for him to continue a high-profile and influential public career,” the organization said, via the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. “Our hope is that the very public discourse taking place across Steeler Nation this week raises awareness of the brutality and inhumanity of dog fighting. With increased community knowledge of the issue, we can all play a role in helping to end dog fighting once and for all.” Steelers coach Mike Tomlin says the team stands by its decision to sign Vick this week. Even if that costs them some dog-loving fans. |
That said, I don't like either of them and don't want either on my team, but I'm talking from tehir point of view.
I just question the football part of bringing in MV, though I really don't care(unless he's their secret weapon for opening night vs NE)
And what is a pass. Should they get a chance to earn a living? What penance is enough.
On the flip side to me how can anyone not thing rape is forgivable at all. Big Ben has certainly never faced any real cost other than financial IMO
For most of us, "dumb things in our 20s" would be driving home less than sober once or twice, having unprotected sex, getting in a bar fight. Running a large dogfighting operation would be, shall we say, unusual.
Britt, I doubt there is any hypocrisy. Steeler fans are not all the same. Those who are critical of Vick are most likely not the same fans who accepted Ben.
For most of us, "dumb things in our 20s" would be driving home less than sober once or twice, having unprotected sex, getting in a bar fight. Running a large dogfighting operation would be, shall we say, unusual.
+ Infinity.
+1
But it is hypocritical of them to play that card now while accepting Big Ben
For most of us, "dumb things in our 20s" would be driving home less than sober once or twice, having unprotected sex, getting in a bar fight. Running a large dogfighting operation would be, shall we say, unusual.
Yep all of the above, minus the dog fighting. But I no longer care about Vick. He probably shouldn't have been allowed back in the league, thats on the NFL. I give zero shits about the Steelers or Vick.
Fuck that piece of shit.
That's pretty much all I have to add.
I see a distinction between the crimes. I do not endorse what Ben or Hines did but it falls within certain boundaries.
I am reminded of the supreme court justice who said "I can't define porn, but I know it when I see it.
Well you ask me to define the difference between their crimes and that of Vick, I would struggle, but that doesn't mean I dont know the difference.
I can scarcely think of anything worse than what Vick did. And if The Giants had signed him I would have quit on the team after fifty years.
And instead of this buloney that that reflects on me and displays a hypocrisy and double standead...nonsense it reflects on you or anyone who can see the difference in the enormity of Vick's cruelety.
a)I think a conscience is one of those things that develops in your childhood. If you don't have a conscience by the time you reach adulthood, it's not going to suddenly develop just because you have lots of time to think while in prison.
b)After doing his time in prison as the punishment for his crime, he deserves his freedom. A second chance is not something he deserves, it's something he needs to earn and it depends on the generosity of those who want to offer it. No one is required to give him a second chance.
c) Both Vick and Roethlisberger did horrible things, but they are very different. Of course people are more important than animals. But Roethlisberger didn't kill anyone by smashing their bodies repeatedly against a wall or by electricuting them in a bathtub and then bury them in his backyard. Roethlisberger used his celebrity status to take advantage of college age women who drank too much. He is a creep and a despicable human being. But he is not a criminal. Vick got enjoyment from training pitbulls to kill each other. Part of that training included kidnapping his neighbors' dogs and using them as sparring partners for his pitbulls and then burying their dead carcasses in his backyard. He is a criminal and a psychopath.
I don't like either Vick or Roethlisberger. They are both horrible human beings. Vick paid a huge price for his criminal acts, Roethlisberger got away with just a slap on the wrist for being a creep. Neither deserved a second chance, but both received one because they are great athletes. Roethlisberger did more with his second chance than Vick did with his.