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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/29/2015 6:51 pm
will the real markus khun  
sundayatone : 8/29/2015 6:59 pm : link
pls stand up.
Let's go Blue!  
RDJR : 8/29/2015 7:03 pm : link
Play well.
Nice crowd for a pre-season game!  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:05 pm : link
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Could Bruce Beck ask Coughlin  
Mr. Bungle : 8/29/2015 7:06 pm : link
any worse questions?!
Wtf?! Poor coverage!  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:07 pm : link
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Come on w/ Kuhn  
Jim Burt64 : 8/29/2015 7:08 pm : link
WTF
Kuhn  
TommyWiseau : 8/29/2015 7:09 pm : link
Sucks
....  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 7:09 pm : link
Kuhn = MVP?
Good defensive series!  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:10 pm : link
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Unga Football!  
TommyWiseau : 8/29/2015 7:10 pm : link
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Unga  
Fish : 8/29/2015 7:10 pm : link
Out there early.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/29/2015 7:11 pm : link
New York Giants ‏@Giants 7s8 seconds ago

Injury Update: DE Robert Ayers suffered an ankle injury during warmups and is not expected to play #NYJvsNYG
Love Unga. Glad he's getting some time  
RDJR : 8/29/2015 7:11 pm : link
against the ones.
Unga  
spike : 8/29/2015 7:11 pm : link
is a keepa
Colon is such a dirty player  
Essex : 8/29/2015 7:11 pm : link
Jumped on that pile so late
Cruz should put on  
Maccorkles667 : 8/29/2015 7:11 pm : link
way more muscle
ayers  
sundayatone : 8/29/2015 7:11 pm : link
wtf?
RE: ...  
spike : 8/29/2015 7:12 pm : link
In comment 12441542 Eric from BBI said:
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New York Giants ‏@Giants 7s8 seconds ago

Injury Update: DE Robert Ayers suffered an ankle injury during warmups and is not expected to play #NYJvsNYG


Who are our starting DEs in week 1?
That shit is funny  
Fish : 8/29/2015 7:12 pm : link
Getting injured before a game
What's up with Ayers....  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:12 pm : link
China doll!
They love that play  
Fish : 8/29/2015 7:13 pm : link
And everyone knows it
....  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 7:13 pm : link
Nice chip Donnell
giants player injured in warm ups?  
ZogZerg : 8/29/2015 7:13 pm : link
Fucking Pathetic!!!!!!
Another three and out  
Essex : 8/29/2015 7:14 pm : link
Disappointing
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/29/2015 7:14 pm : link
Kimberly Jones ‏@KimJonesSports 4m4 minutes ago

NYG: S Stevie Brown to arrive tomorrow. Team expects him to take physical & sign. #giants #nfl
1st and 10  
Fish : 8/29/2015 7:15 pm : link
And we roll out. Defense knows it and puts us in 2nd and long.
We are  
spike : 8/29/2015 7:15 pm : link
desperate at safety
Shitty offensive series!,  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:16 pm : link
WR block terrible, otherwise it would had been a first down. Not good start for the O other then a reception by OBJ.
weather ford  
sundayatone : 8/29/2015 7:16 pm : link
is disappointing.
If it is a punting competition  
Essex : 8/29/2015 7:16 pm : link
Weatherford should be cut. Another terrible punt, no hang time. Great coverage though
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/29/2015 7:16 pm : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 36s37 seconds ago

#Giants DE Robert Ayers is on the sideline, by the way. No ice, brace or anything on either of his ankles. Still in full uniform. #NYG
Is Vereen  
natefit : 8/29/2015 7:17 pm : link
playing?
miles blew that....  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:17 pm : link
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Where was the LB?  
jeff57 : 8/29/2015 7:17 pm : link
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RE: Shitty offensive series!,  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 7:17 pm : link
In comment 12441562 Simms11 said:
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WR block terrible, otherwise it would had been a first down. Not good start for the O other then a reception by OBJ.


Seems to be standard operating procedure here.
RE: If it is a punting competition  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:18 pm : link
In comment 12441564 Essex said:
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Weatherford should be cut. Another terrible punt, no hang time. Great coverage though


This
Same old story:  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 7:18 pm : link
Where are the LBs?
hopefully  
spike : 8/29/2015 7:18 pm : link
it is something minor with Ayers.
Hosley makes me fucking sick.  
bceagle05 : 8/29/2015 7:18 pm : link
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Hosley  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 7:18 pm : link
Clueless
Just terrible D there again......  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:19 pm : link
Not stopping the run at all!!
No offense, no defense  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 7:20 pm : link
This is almost the ugliest game yet. This is the dress rehearsal?
LOL nice match up  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 7:21 pm : link
Defense looks great!!!
Holy fuck  
Jim Burt64 : 8/29/2015 7:21 pm : link
this team sucks
Pathetic  
jeff57 : 8/29/2015 7:21 pm : link
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The Giants HAVE to be the most injury prone team  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 7:21 pm : link
in the NFL. I mean EVERYONE except for Eli are a bunch of glass bodied wimps. I've never seen a team who just keeps year after year fielding the most fragile players they can find. The few that aren't aside from Eli are awful. The Jets just making it look EASY. Like a HS team against a pro. Pathetic.
Same old same old  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 7:21 pm : link
and there was no pass rush, can't stop the run
oMG this is going to be a very long year......just pitiful!  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:21 pm : link
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....  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 7:21 pm : link
Does anyone in this secondary have a slight clue of what's going on?
good defense!  
micky : 8/29/2015 7:22 pm : link
{rolling eyes}
This roster is very low  
Mr. Bungle : 8/29/2015 7:22 pm : link
on talent.
How in the hell  
rebel yell : 8/29/2015 7:22 pm : link
do you injure an ankle in warmups?
looks like  
spike : 8/29/2015 7:22 pm : link
we are picking in the top ten again
LOL Kuhn got knocked into Hankins  
Mason : 8/29/2015 7:23 pm : link
on that TD throw. I'm going to focus on someone else because he makes me want to cry.
Which Giant?  
David B. : 8/29/2015 7:23 pm : link
Is done for the season so far?
I keep telling myself it's preseason.  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 8/29/2015 7:23 pm : link
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2nd safety situation  
MookGiants : 8/29/2015 7:23 pm : link
is scary bad.
This team is 1-15  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 7:23 pm : link
Has any opponent had difficulty scoring against this defense? Has the Giants' starting offense had any success against any defense? The Giants make their opponents--all of them--look like superstars.
Hosley play =  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 7:23 pm : link
TD
It's only a pre-season Game  
NewBlue : 8/29/2015 7:23 pm : link
But they look so dis-organized out there
Dallas is going to crush us in 1st game!!!!  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:23 pm : link
I have zero confidence in this team now. There's no reason for optimism. It's just terrible football.
I've been focusing in on Kuhn.  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 8/29/2015 7:23 pm : link
Good Lord. This dude is as bad as BBI says.
Wow. Now we know why no one signed...  
LarmerTJR : 8/29/2015 7:24 pm : link
Miles until right before camp. He is clueless. Absolutely clueless.
Haha jets have been getting pounded all preseason  
ADeP7 : 8/29/2015 7:24 pm : link
And haven't been able to move the ball with there first team offense

They play us and they look great hahah
If anyone thinks you can just dismiss this as the preseason  
Essex : 8/29/2015 7:24 pm : link
You're smoking crack. If this is a dress rehearsal, as they say, we should cancel the play
This is a big  
Fish : 8/29/2015 7:24 pm : link
Series for Giants offense. Sad but true
RE: It's only a pre-season Game  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:24 pm : link
In comment 12441600 NewBlue said:
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But they look so dis-organized out there


And this is a dress rehearsal?!
Ryan Fitzpatrick carving up the Giants D  
Upstate_Giants_fan : 8/29/2015 7:24 pm : link
[sigh]

Its just preseason.......
Spags will be gone in a year.  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 7:25 pm : link
I know he is coaching with morons and talentless players but without a few probowl players his defense is nothing special. I can see this team tanking and Mara finally cleaning house. TC, Spags, That goofball OC we have, and probably Eli unless he performs some kind of miracle this year. It's going to be sad but probably overdue.
I just don't get how they never come out ready to  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 7:25 pm : link
play offense or defense. I know they are terrible on defense, but this team comes out slower than the opposition, out of sync
Everyone's 3rd receiver or tight end is going to go crazy on us  
bigbluescot : 8/29/2015 7:25 pm : link
there's just no talent in the secondary outside of Prince and DRC. Hopefully Collins comes on strong over the season, but it's a massive ask given the limited talent/experience at slot CB and the rest of the safeties.
RE: LOL Kuhn got knocked into Hankins  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 7:25 pm : link
In comment 12441594 Mason said:
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on that TD throw. I'm going to focus on someone else because he makes me want to cry.


It doesn't matter who you focus on, you are going to be disappointed.
How  
Toth029 : 8/29/2015 7:26 pm : link
Does Hosley have a job?
Why  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:26 pm : link
Are we running behind Jerry?!
Wtf!  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:27 pm : link
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McAdoo's tricky play calling  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 7:27 pm : link
...is fooling only the fan base into thinking this team can score against anyone. I hate that play he opened this game with where Eli does a naked bootleg to the right. It never works.
Harris looked like a great returner in Dallas  
bigbluescot : 8/29/2015 7:27 pm : link
he looks like he's running in treacle here. There should be pretty good talent on that special teams unit, it's been a focus.
This offense is still not clicking at all.....  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:28 pm : link
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No  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 7:28 pm : link
pass rush and bad safety play equals lots of big plays given up by the defense.
We might win two games  
spike : 8/29/2015 7:29 pm : link
against Washington
trash offensive line  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 7:29 pm : link
Justin PUGH
Pugh  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 7:29 pm : link
great series
Pugh and between both whiffed?!  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:29 pm : link
Holy crap!
RE: This offense is still not clicking at all.....  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 7:29 pm : link
In comment 12441624 Simms11 said:
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They have more negative than positive yardage.
What happened to Pugh?  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 7:29 pm : link
Got beat off the snap
3rd and 21  
fivehead : 8/29/2015 7:29 pm : link
We can do this!
Get used to that Eli  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 7:30 pm : link
this is probably the worst Oline you've had. Just keeps getting worse by the year.
Pugh  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 7:30 pm : link
was beaten very badly on that sack.
We are seeing the consequences of  
Essex : 8/29/2015 7:30 pm : link
not making difficult decisions the last two years. We put bandaids on wounds were stitches were needed.
Vereen.  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:30 pm : link
L
Was douzable a Giant?  
LarmerTJR : 8/29/2015 7:30 pm : link
The same guy?
Weatherford  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 7:30 pm : link
Gone
Pugh  
MookGiants : 8/29/2015 7:30 pm : link
with a penalty on 1st down then beaten like a rented mule on next play. Lovely
Holy shit  
Mister Charming : 8/29/2015 7:30 pm : link
This team is unbearable to watch.
...  
Toth029 : 8/29/2015 7:30 pm : link
Pugh can wake up some day
Pugh not looking good  
jeff57 : 8/29/2015 7:31 pm : link
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They shoot themselves in the foot  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 7:31 pm : link
time after time in their own territority
Pugh has seen better  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 8/29/2015 7:31 pm : link
Games.
RE: Weatherford  
Essex : 8/29/2015 7:31 pm : link
In comment 12441638 Route 9 in LEH said:
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Gone

I doubt it.
RE: Pugh  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 7:31 pm : link
In comment 12441639 MookGiants said:
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with a penalty on 1st down then beaten like a rented mule on next play. Lovely


Nothing new
McAdoo is a genius  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 7:31 pm : link
At least his calls get that extra five yards for the punter on each short series!
I thought  
spike : 8/29/2015 7:31 pm : link
OL is a major improvement w ith all the picks. What happened?
RE: We might win two games  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 7:31 pm : link
In comment 12441626 spike said:
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against Washington


Not if the sit RG3. We better hope he starts those game!
RE: RE: Weatherford  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 7:31 pm : link
In comment 12441645 Essex said:
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In comment 12441638 Route 9 in LEH said:


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Gone


I doubt it.


Gone for the play.
RE: What happened to Pugh?  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:32 pm : link
In comment 12441631 Steve Filipowicz said:
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Got beat off the snap


By a guy we had as a back up a few years ago.
RE: McAdoo is a genius  
Moondawg : 8/29/2015 7:32 pm : link
In comment 12441647 D_Giants said:
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At least his calls get that extra five yards for the punter on each short series!


Last I checked, McAdoo didn't commit illegal hands to the face or whiff on a block.
This  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 7:32 pm : link
team has no big play WR except for Beckham. Everyone else is basically a possession WR. And our TEs our similarly limited. Teams will take away Beckham as best they can with double coverage, and keep everything else in front of them.
This team has been beyond bad  
halfback20 : 8/29/2015 7:32 pm : link
this preseason. It's discouraging because you see other teams putting up points, at least with starters. Our starters look like shit.

I hope the shit gets worked out in time for the regular season.
Please put Stanzi befoe  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 7:32 pm : link
Eli and Nassib get hurt
RE: Was douzable a Giant?  
jeff57 : 8/29/2015 7:33 pm : link
In comment 12441637 LarmerTJR said:
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The same guy?


Yes.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/29/2015 7:33 pm : link
Ebenezer Samuel ‏@ebenezersamuel 25s26 seconds ago

Ex-Jet Kenrick Ellis is on with Hankins, Kerry Wynn and Owa Odighizuwa on this defensive line.
Wow that series  
#10* : 8/29/2015 7:33 pm : link
was worth 23 million a year.
RE: Please put Stanzi befoe  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:33 pm : link
In comment 12441656 Steve Filipowicz said:
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Eli and Nassib get hurt


Why? Obviously they need work!
Bromley knocked the guy on his ass  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 7:33 pm : link
and made the tackle
RE: RE: McAdoo is a genius  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 7:34 pm : link
In comment 12441653 Moondawg said:
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In comment 12441647 D_Giants said:


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At least his calls get that extra five yards for the punter on each short series!



Last I checked, McAdoo didn't commit illegal hands to the face or whiff on a block.


No, he's not on the field. He's off the field calling silly plays that, even if successful, scare no one.
Who on the defense is better then average?  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 7:34 pm : link
Also who aside from Odell is better then average? Cruz if he can come back to his normal self maybe. Who else, anybody?
Kuhn out, run defense improves  
jeff57 : 8/29/2015 7:34 pm : link
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Per Dottino  
ChathamMark : 8/29/2015 7:34 pm : link
Ayers injured his ankle in the pre-game warmups. Won't play. Can't make this crap up....
RE: Wow that series  
dep026 : 8/29/2015 7:35 pm : link
In comment 12441659 #10* said:
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was worth 23 million a year.


and it begins.
If Kuhn starts Fire coughlin and I'm dead serious  
ADeP7 : 8/29/2015 7:35 pm : link
Ellis and Bromley are way better
Did they finally cut  
Mister Charming : 8/29/2015 7:35 pm : link
Kuhn?
Terrible tackle bynThomas  
jeff57 : 8/29/2015 7:35 pm : link
.
Negligible pass rush  
dpinzow : 8/29/2015 7:35 pm : link
just nothing
No pressure at all!!!!!!  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:35 pm : link
.
....  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 7:36 pm : link
That Giants D-line is getting bitched around on the rush
Good play by Odi  
jeff57 : 8/29/2015 7:36 pm : link
.
JT Thomas.  
Mr. Bungle : 8/29/2015 7:36 pm : link
Jaguars backup trash.
Urban Meyer will look great in Giant Blue  
gtt350 : 8/29/2015 7:37 pm : link
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This is some scary shit.  
bceagle05 : 8/29/2015 7:37 pm : link
I'm feeling a 90-yard TD drive.
Like  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 7:37 pm : link
what I'm seeing from OO in run defense.
No pressure  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 7:37 pm : link
zero, nada, nil
jets getting huge chunks of yards on O  
micky : 8/29/2015 7:37 pm : link
Esp vs secondary
I could mark this up to  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:37 pm : link
A new defensive scheme, however, I don't see it getting any better, which is sad. There's no pass rush at all.
Prince looks  
SimpleMan : 8/29/2015 7:37 pm : link
gimpy out there
Wish that  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 7:37 pm : link
Eli had the same time to throw as Fitz
OO doing some work  
WeatherMan : 8/29/2015 7:37 pm : link
this kid has potential.
And tackling has been absolutely horrendous......  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:38 pm : link
Nobody is wrapping anyone up.
0.0  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 7:38 pm : link
pressure.
McBride missed two tackles  
jeff57 : 8/29/2015 7:38 pm : link
.
RE: I could mark this up to  
dpinzow : 8/29/2015 7:38 pm : link
In comment 12441683 Simms11 said:
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A new defensive scheme, however, I don't see it getting any better, which is sad. There's no pass rush at all.


Nothing you can do scheme-wise when you don't have the horses up front to rush the QB
might the worst tackling defense  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 7:38 pm : link
I've ever seen. The first guy never stops the guy, it's unreal
Spag  
spike : 8/29/2015 7:39 pm : link
has a lot of work to do on this group
Wtf  
SomeFan : 8/29/2015 7:39 pm : link
Talk about an uninspiring team. Think this will be a brutal year.
They need some youmg guys to step up  
NewBlue : 8/29/2015 7:39 pm : link
And make their presence felt. Either side of the ball someone needs to assert themselves
RE: OO doing some work  
Ira : 8/29/2015 7:40 pm : link
In comment 12441686 WeatherMan said:
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this kid has potential.


He's looked good against the run.
If I didn't read the daily practice reports  
Mister Charming : 8/29/2015 7:40 pm : link
On this site, I would believe this team never practiced. It's always the same with this team-they look lost, unprepared and clueless.
Pre-season or not ... this is the worst looking Giants football  
baadbill : 8/29/2015 7:40 pm : link
team I've seen in over 50 years. They make me miss the talent of the 1970's teams.
Has the first team offense  
halfback20 : 8/29/2015 7:40 pm : link
scored a touchdown yet in any game?
My wife just asked how much longer the game is.  
fivehead : 8/29/2015 7:40 pm : link
I told her it's over. They're just going through the motions at this point.
For me, the story is that  
Moondawg : 8/29/2015 7:40 pm : link
if we hold them to 3 yards on a rush, it feels like a success. If we get 3 yards on a rush, it feels like a success. Not good.
If TC gets this team to 8 and 8  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:40 pm : link
He should be coach of the year!
30 offensive yards after 1st quarter  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 7:41 pm : link
This football team is so bad it is almost un-watchable.
7 guys and nobody gets near  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 7:41 pm : link
the QB. Luckily the Jets have a terrible QB.
Spags had to send 7 guys  
dpinzow : 8/29/2015 7:41 pm : link
and they finally got a stop...but if that is Romo that play is most likely converted for a 1st because the intended receiver was open
Someone finally said WTF is Kuhn doing out there?  
Mason : 8/29/2015 7:41 pm : link
Get his ass off the field!
God I know it's preseason but after past two weeks  
ADeP7 : 8/29/2015 7:41 pm : link
And now this jets game when jets have been horrendous at some point you gotta understand that this is a trend

Looks like shit smells like shit

Its shit
30 yards on offense so far  
micky : 8/29/2015 7:42 pm : link
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no one is touching Romo  
spike : 8/29/2015 7:43 pm : link
in week 1.
Very  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 7:43 pm : link
bad on both sides of the ball in every respect, and in all the games by the first unit.
RE: Has the first team offense  
Mason : 8/29/2015 7:43 pm : link
In comment 12441698 halfback20 said:
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scored a touchdown yet in any game?


I don't think the Giants offensive 1st team scored a TD in preseason since 2013.
Giants are primed to compete for the #1 overall draft pick  
baadbill : 8/29/2015 7:44 pm : link
.
Baltimore  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 7:44 pm : link
with an early TD against the Redskins.

7 - 0.

Here comes Cousins.
may the  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 7:45 pm : link
Schwartz be with you
Good lord  
halfback20 : 8/29/2015 7:45 pm : link
if the first team can get something going here they should just take the 1st team out so they can at least go out on a good note.
RE: Giants are primed to compete for the #1 overall draft pick  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:45 pm : link
In comment 12441715 baadbill said:
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Unfortunately, that's the way it's looking in pre-season. They have a lot of work to do still.
hey...  
halfback20 : 8/29/2015 7:46 pm : link
first down!
....  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 7:47 pm : link
Nice "catch"

;-)
Great catch  
jeff57 : 8/29/2015 7:47 pm : link
.
That  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 7:47 pm : link
wasn't a catch by Beckham.
Schwartz  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 7:48 pm : link
...is in for a cameo.
Acid  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 7:48 pm : link
Obviously not
RE: That  
dpinzow : 8/29/2015 7:49 pm : link
In comment 12441727 AcidTest said:
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wasn't a catch by Beckham.


Eli was smart enough to rush back to the line and run a play quickly though...so Eli made it a catch before anyone could throw a challenge
Looks like a run a mile away?!  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:49 pm : link
.
Newhouse just got  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 7:49 pm : link
stuffed
right side of old collapsed there  
micky : 8/29/2015 7:49 pm : link
.
Eli's throwing the ball better  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:50 pm : link
Tonight at least.
Man Flowers  
Rflairr : 8/29/2015 7:50 pm : link
looks really good
Robinson runs like he has a refrigerator  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 7:50 pm : link
on his back
RE: Acid  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 7:50 pm : link
In comment 12441729 Route 9 in LEH said:
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Obviously not


I understood what you meant. He caught the ball, it just wasn't a legal catch in the game, but the actual catch was nice! :)
Is this a drive?  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 7:50 pm : link
This is looking like a 'drive' . .
....  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 7:51 pm : link
Because of drawing the PI, Robinson will be back another year
Newhouse  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 7:51 pm : link
got pushed ten yards back it seemed.
Flowers just burying people.  
bceagle05 : 8/29/2015 7:51 pm : link
Love it.
RE: Man Flowers  
Essex : 8/29/2015 7:51 pm : link
In comment 12441737 Rflairr said:
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looks really good

He is a great run blocker, it is so obvious
....  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 7:51 pm : link
Lol newhouse looks so awful
Giants seem to only play well  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 7:52 pm : link
when they are in a fast tempo on offense. They should ALWAYS play with a fast tempo. I don't understand why they slow it down at times.
flowers looking good  
micky : 8/29/2015 7:52 pm : link
.
Have to get this in....  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:52 pm : link
.
RUN LEFT  
BigBlueJ : 8/29/2015 7:53 pm : link
RUN LEFT
Interesting Cunningham  
Rflairr : 8/29/2015 7:53 pm : link
in there
Giants wake up  
jeff57 : 8/29/2015 7:54 pm : link
.
Nice blocking by the line  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 7:54 pm : link
Newhouse included
nice push  
spike : 8/29/2015 7:54 pm : link
by the right side!
Great drive!  
dpinzow : 8/29/2015 7:54 pm : link
We ran it pretty well there on a great defensive line. Aside from Newhouse the run blocking was excellent on that drive
good drive with help of penalties  
micky : 8/29/2015 7:54 pm : link
.
Whoever that is on Flowers  
Rflairr : 8/29/2015 7:54 pm : link
is getting his ass kicked.

Flowers drive him on runs and he's not even moving Flowers on the
pass plays
Cunningham  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 7:54 pm : link
is the real deal. He had a great block on one of the last two runs.
Flowers  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 7:54 pm : link
is looking like a great pick.
This team looks different this week.  
short lease : 8/29/2015 7:54 pm : link
A little bit more pep in their step.

I liiike it ....
Outstanding drive  
NewBlue : 8/29/2015 7:55 pm : link
We looked very good there
I think  
spike : 8/29/2015 7:55 pm : link
this is it for Eli
Schwartz nice plow job there......  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:55 pm : link
Gave Jennings some room inside.
Nice block by Schwartz on the LB  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 7:55 pm : link
For the TD
RE: flowers looking good  
jeff57 : 8/29/2015 7:55 pm : link
In comment 12441748 micky said:
Quote:
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Yeah, he's been a bright spot.
Schwartz is a billion times better then Jerry's kids  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 7:55 pm : link
Hopefully Schwartz can make it onto the field this year. I'm not confident he will but very hopeful.
Erick Flowers, more like Wreck Flowers  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/29/2015 7:55 pm : link
This kid is an animal.
in the 3-4  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 7:55 pm : link
I think Flowers is up against a LB who he is destroying
Flowers is a monster  
Mason : 8/29/2015 7:56 pm : link
Oh man, leave Schwartz at RG. He is so much better there and get Beatty back ASAP. Eli and the offense best preseason drive in some time. Look very impressive with the amount of guys out injured.
Excellent drive.  
RDJR : 8/29/2015 7:56 pm : link
We needed that.
RE: I think  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:56 pm : link
In comment 12441763 spike said:
Quote:
this is it for Eli


Doubt it. They have not looked that good other then that drive. I think starters will continue to the half still.
That was a great drive  
halfback20 : 8/29/2015 7:56 pm : link
finally something to enjoy watching.
Really liking the Flowers pick.  
Beezer : 8/29/2015 7:56 pm : link
Reeeeeally happy with the Odi pick!!!
See  
Maccorkles667 : 8/29/2015 7:56 pm : link
Everyone just calm down. let the athletes do their things. I swear to God sometimes, lol.
Now get the starters out  
Mason : 8/29/2015 7:57 pm : link
Please.
Nice drive.  
Gmen703 : 8/29/2015 7:57 pm : link
I think I have a man crush on Flowers
Nice drive for Schwartz and Flowers.  
Andy in Halifax : 8/29/2015 7:57 pm : link
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Nice  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 7:58 pm : link
drive. Would like to see some big play capability. There were a lot of conservative plays. That's fine, but it's hard to go on ten to twelve play drives regularly.

Cousins threw a terrible INT, and just fumbled a snap.
Palmer in on the kickoff  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 7:58 pm : link
tackle
Tom Quinn's in midseason form.  
bceagle05 : 8/29/2015 7:58 pm : link
.
Good coverage and a teaching point  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 7:58 pm : link
To the rookie about lining up off side.
I kinda hope  
halfback20 : 8/29/2015 7:58 pm : link
that's it for the starters but who knows.
The starters will be in  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 7:58 pm : link
late into the 3rd quarter
I'd like to sees the OL  
Jay in Toronto : 8/29/2015 8:00 pm : link
Play deep into the game
Has Cullen Jenkins  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 8:00 pm : link
done anything yet?
RE: Nice  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:00 pm : link
In comment 12441783 AcidTest said:
Quote:
drive. Would like to see some big play capability. There were a lot of conservative plays. That's fine, but it's hard to go on ten to twelve play drives regularly.

Cousins threw a terrible INT, and just fumbled a snap.


I think they're still working on some things. Also the short game will open things up deep when CBs and safeties bite.
Newhouse is having some difficulty  
BlackLight : 8/29/2015 8:00 pm : link
But can't forget that he's playing on a bum ankle.
Headhunter  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/29/2015 8:01 pm : link
a lot of non-starters have already played.
Kuhn got schooled again  
dpinzow : 8/29/2015 8:01 pm : link
lost contain
Wtf is up with our perimeter  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:01 pm : link
Defense?!
Bromley was buried  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 8:02 pm : link
On the play
Collins doesn't look that aggressive.  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 8:02 pm : link
Is he #21? Likes to wait for the play rather then go after it.
Prince is a good tackler.....  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:03 pm : link
Thank goodness for that.

Wtf is up with the late hit there?!
Not smart Ellis  
dpinzow : 8/29/2015 8:03 pm : link
you're a 345 pound guy...if you even come in a fraction late they will call that
do: think that was  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 8:03 pm : link
Wynn who was schooled . Don't think Kuhn is in
Ellis  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 8:04 pm : link
hitting the stupid button.

Still. No. Pressure.
RE: Collins doesn't look that aggressive.  
BigBlueJ : 8/29/2015 8:04 pm : link
In comment 12441799 Annunaki said:
Quote:
Is he #21? Likes to wait for the play rather then go after it.


Do you think you can let the kid work his way back for christ sakes.
Cut that moron Ellis  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 8:04 pm : link
We can not afford to have MORE idiots on this team. Get him gone!
Stupid penalty by Ellis  
Ira : 8/29/2015 8:04 pm : link
.
WTF Ellis ....?  
short lease : 8/29/2015 8:04 pm : link
.
RE: RE: Collins doesn't look that aggressive.  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 8:04 pm : link
In comment 12441805 BigBlueJ said:
Quote:
In comment 12441799 Annunaki said:


Quote:


Is he #21? Likes to wait for the play rather then go after it.



Do you think you can let the kid work his way back for christ sakes.



No
RE: do: think that was  
dpinzow : 8/29/2015 8:04 pm : link
In comment 12441802 Steve Filipowicz said:
Quote:
Wynn who was schooled . Don't think Kuhn is in


Yeah, you're right...Wynn is #72 and he lost contain there

Once again no pass rush and Fitzpatrick has enough time to do his taxes, read War and Peace, and find Decker inside the 30
There's # 78 again being a non-factor  
Mason : 8/29/2015 8:05 pm : link
smh.
hTF does he get that open!  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:05 pm : link
.
Ellis got turned, twisted  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 8:05 pm : link
on Stacy's run
Just fing pitiful defense!  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:06 pm : link
.
where the he'll was the defense!!!!  
micky : 8/29/2015 8:06 pm : link
.
Kuhn stops his rush  
jeff57 : 8/29/2015 8:06 pm : link
.
wide open.  
short lease : 8/29/2015 8:06 pm : link
.
Great defense!  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 8:06 pm : link
Nice play Spags! I know give them time to get it together I understand.
That's awful  
dpinzow : 8/29/2015 8:06 pm : link
only Meriweather recognized a screen?

Folk misses the longer PAT
We've got terrible safeties, we're going to see an awful lot of play  
bigbluescot : 8/29/2015 8:07 pm : link
action getting them to bite.
Still focusing in on Kuhn.  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 8/29/2015 8:07 pm : link
If he's starting 9/13 in Dallas, our coaching staff is lost.
Romo and Dez  
SimpleMan : 8/29/2015 8:07 pm : link
are going to have a field day with this defense.
Entire D got fooled wow  
Mason : 8/29/2015 8:08 pm : link
Only the new guy read it. Practice?
Spags has made a huge difference  
HomerJones45 : 8/29/2015 8:08 pm : link
we are looking more and more like his defense- in New Orleans/
Actually Kuhn was the only one who got into the backfield on  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 8:08 pm : link
TD screen pass although his jersey was pulled for blatant hold
On the play that the Giants weren't fooled on  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 8:08 pm : link
and strung out the play, Kuhn was fooled he tackled the guy they faked the handoff to. Look for it if you watch a replay. The guy has 0 awareness
Awful.  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 8:09 pm : link
Just a basic screen, and it would have gone for a mile.
RE: Still focusing in on Kuhn.  
HomerJones45 : 8/29/2015 8:09 pm : link
In comment 12441822 SanFranNowNCGiantsFan said:
Quote:
If he's starting 9/13 in Dallas, our coaching staff is lost.
or the other guys suck even more which is a distinct possibility.
RE: Spags has made a huge difference  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 8:10 pm : link
In comment 12441825 HomerJones45 said:
Quote:
we are looking more and more like his defense- in New Orleans/



I know, I have a bad feeling that we took a few steps backwards with his signing, I know I am in the minority but I wasn't that excited about resigning him.
Stream is kinda grainy  
Gmen703 : 8/29/2015 8:10 pm : link
Is the person losing contain Kuhn or Wynn?
RE: Entire D got fooled wow  
dpinzow : 8/29/2015 8:10 pm : link
In comment 12441824 Mason said:
Quote:
Only the new guy read it. Practice?


Meriweather is from the U, they always produce good safeties and even he's got football knowledge from there

Dwayne Harris ALMOST broke that
RE: Still focusing in on Kuhn.  
Mason : 8/29/2015 8:10 pm : link
In comment 12441822 SanFranNowNCGiantsFan said:
Quote:
If he's starting 9/13 in Dallas, our coaching staff is lost.


He has to be the weakest DT I seen in some time. I'm amazed at how often he gets stonewalled at the point of action.
Harris tripped up......  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:11 pm : link
Thought he was a stronger runner then that.

Anyway, defense was absolutely horrendous on that drive once again. Wynn has not looked good, Kuhn getting manhandled and the safeties are totally out of position and not making plays.
We lead the league in giving up big plays last year  
NewBlue : 8/29/2015 8:11 pm : link
That better change, but watching that last play was reminiscent of last years defense.
Thanks  
Reb8thVA : 8/29/2015 8:11 pm : link
Reese
at  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/29/2015 8:12 pm : link
this point, people need to stop scape-goating Kuhn. The entire defense looks dreadful.
RE: Actually Kuhn was the only one who got into the backfield on  
Mason : 8/29/2015 8:12 pm : link
In comment 12441826 Steve Filipowicz said:
Quote:
TD screen pass although his jersey was pulled for blatant hold


I think everyone else was running to the ball at that point. He was still engaged.
Kuhn, Kuhn, Kuhn  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 8:12 pm : link
What are Jenkins and Moore doing? Nothing as far as I can see
John Jerry back in, looks like a 3 and out coming up!  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 8:12 pm : link
!
Have the giants  
halfback20 : 8/29/2015 8:14 pm : link
ever ran the ball well out of the shotgun?
Can this defense be better then last year?  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:14 pm : link
I'm not so sure....and last year we were like the 29th ranked defense.
If this team wins  
Gman11 : 8/29/2015 8:15 pm : link
more than 5 games I'll be surprised.
RE: Have the giants  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 8:16 pm : link
In comment 12441847 halfback20 said:
Quote:
ever ran the ball well out of the shotgun?


Tiki
Eli bad throw there.....  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:16 pm : link
.
A better throw by Eli  
dpinzow : 8/29/2015 8:17 pm : link
and that is a TD. Odell beat Revis but the throw was over the wrong shoulder
We have the keystone cops ......  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:17 pm : link
can't get the turnover!
Revis pointing to the ground  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 8:17 pm : link
because he knows he was beat
Wtf!!!!!  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:18 pm : link
.
dumb penalty  
micky : 8/29/2015 8:18 pm : link
.
McAdoo's "West coast offense"  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 8:18 pm : link
Run for 1, run for 3, pass for 60. This is Gilbride again.
Where the hell was the pun coverage on that play?  
short lease : 8/29/2015 8:19 pm : link
There should have been more guys down there.
RE: McAdoo's  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/29/2015 8:19 pm : link
In comment 12441858 D_Giants said:
Quote:
Run for 1, run for 3, pass for 60. This is Gilbride again.


Quality post.
That was a bad call  
dpinzow : 8/29/2015 8:19 pm : link
on Collins. Not enough to be a penalty. Then the make up call comes against Decker
RE: McAdoo's  
bigbluescot : 8/29/2015 8:19 pm : link
In comment 12441858 D_Giants said:
Quote:
Run for 1, run for 3, pass for 60. This is Gilbride again.


Oh shut the fuck up. Revis was beaten all ends up.
What  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 8:20 pm : link
kind of penalty was that on a down where the running back slipped? Unreal. Wow.
I think you're going to see the starters  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:21 pm : link
again after half.
RE: What  
bigbluescot : 8/29/2015 8:21 pm : link
In comment 12441864 AcidTest said:
Quote:
kind of penalty was that on a down where the running back slipped? Unreal. Wow.


To be fair to Collins, he made the bonehead move immediately after the snap before the slip.
RE: RE: McAdoo's  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 8:21 pm : link
In comment 12441862 bigbluescot said:
Quote:
In comment 12441858 D_Giants said:


Quote:


Run for 1, run for 3, pass for 60. This is Gilbride again.



Oh shut the fuck up. Revis was beaten all ends up.



Bluecocc: yeah, you're right a-hole.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/29/2015 8:21 pm : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 4s4 seconds ago

Unga and Thomas LB here on 3rd and long. Kennard not on field. Clear Giants are putting bubble guys in positions to evaluate.
RE: McAdoo's  
dpinzow : 8/29/2015 8:22 pm : link
In comment 12441858 D_Giants said:
Quote:
Run for 1, run for 3, pass for 60. This is Gilbride again.


Bullshit...That throw was the right choice but Eli put it over the wrong shoulder...otherwise it is a TD.

Giants get a stop on 3rd down. Colon tries to start a fight, fortunately there are no flags
Did Fitzpatrick go to Harvard?  
SwirlingEddie : 8/29/2015 8:23 pm : link
Because the four times Papa has mentioned it has left some doubt in my mind.
RE: RE: McAdoo's  
bigbluescot : 8/29/2015 8:23 pm : link
In comment 12441870 dpinzow said:
Quote:
In comment 12441858 D_Giants said:


Quote:


Run for 1, run for 3, pass for 60. This is Gilbride again.



Bullshit...That throw was the right choice but Eli put it over the wrong shoulder...otherwise it is a TD.

Giants get a stop on 3rd down. Colon tries to start a fight, fortunately there are no flags


He's a troll.
Where's Harris blocking?!  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:23 pm : link
Specials not looking it tonight.
RE: RE: McAdoo's  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 8:23 pm : link
In comment 12441870 dpinzow said:
Quote:
In comment 12441858 D_Giants said:


Quote:


Run for 1, run for 3, pass for 60. This is Gilbride again.



Bullshit...That throw was the right choice but Eli put it over the wrong shoulder...otherwise it is a TD.

Giants get a stop on 3rd down. Colon tries to start a fight, fortunately there are no flags


You're right. The drive is over, though.
Justin Pugh has been pew  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:25 pm : link
Tonight!!!!!
Another penalty on Pugh  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 8:25 pm : link
Did he come to play tonight?
RE: Where's Harris blocking?!  
jeff57 : 8/29/2015 8:25 pm : link
In comment 12441874 Simms11 said:
Quote:
Specials not looking it tonight.


When have they looked special under the Mighty Quinn?
Telegraphed that pass  
jeff57 : 8/29/2015 8:27 pm : link
.
Gotta give Eli credit for being out there without a new contract...  
Britt in VA : 8/29/2015 8:27 pm : link
behind that line.

Would other QB's do it?
uh oh  
micky : 8/29/2015 8:27 pm : link
..
Holy crap!  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:27 pm : link
.
That was on  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 8:27 pm : link
Eli
Ha ha ha!  
SwirlingEddie : 8/29/2015 8:27 pm : link
Comical...
....  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 8:27 pm : link
Oh a pick 6....stinky
Eli has to know better  
dpinzow : 8/29/2015 8:27 pm : link
nobody was open, throw it away
Jones just waiting for it  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 8:28 pm : link
I hate when WRs don't go after the ball. Bad pass by Eli. I hate how WR's don't help their QB's out.
horribly bad pass  
PA Giant Fan : 8/29/2015 8:28 pm : link
on so many levels
Man do we suck ass!!!  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:28 pm : link
.
eli manning playing like  
Maccorkles667 : 8/29/2015 8:28 pm : link
trash, as per usual and making a dumb decision...
Kuhn manhandled  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:29 pm : link
Again on that..
What kind of pass was that?  
short lease : 8/29/2015 8:29 pm : link
It looked like he lead Cromartie?
Great  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 8:29 pm : link
Giants' offense: score for Giants: 7 points. Score for opponent: 8 points. Net: -1 points.
Stupid  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/29/2015 8:29 pm : link
fucking throw given the situation. Would not have helped even had he completed it.

This team is going to be 6-10 at best.
if it's not one player it's another  
micky : 8/29/2015 8:29 pm : link
If it's not one area its another..always mistakes
Bromley and McClain run over by the runner for  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 8:29 pm : link
TD.
Eli is the type of QB that needs aggressive WRs  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 8:29 pm : link
He tries to force too much and when you don't have aggressive WRs picks happen often, he should know that by now, so should the WRs.
RE: Eli has to know better  
Maccorkles667 : 8/29/2015 8:30 pm : link
In comment 12441888 dpinzow said:
Quote:
nobody was open, throw it away


no ...he doesnt. he looks so stupid sometimes making rookie mistakes. how did he not see him sitting there? its unbelievably pathetic that hes been playing in the nfl for 11 + years sometimes. hes pathetic.
And someone posts why did Jones not make a move  
NewBlue : 8/29/2015 8:30 pm : link
jeez
Why did Jones allow the run back????????????  
Mason : 8/29/2015 8:30 pm : link
I guess it is preseason but damn even Cromartie was looking for someone to come after him.
Maybe Jones  
River Mike : 8/29/2015 8:30 pm : link
could have done something, but Eli was looking right at them and could see Cromartie sitting there. Bad decision, bad throw.
No worries  
nyynyg : 8/29/2015 8:30 pm : link
when Nassib plays well, it will be because he played against reserves again.
RE: Stupid  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 8:30 pm : link
In comment 12441896 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
fucking throw given the situation. Would not have helped even had he completed it.

This team is going to be 6-10 at best.


Throw a bomb on 3rd and 4 with 3 minutes. Throw 5 yarder for pick six with 19 seconds.
RE: Stupid  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 8:30 pm : link
In comment 12441896 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
fucking throw given the situation. Would not have helped even had he completed it.

This team is going to be 6-10 at best.


I agree, 6-10 would be a win at this point.
Next to nothing to be optimistic about  
MookGiants : 8/29/2015 8:30 pm : link
in the pre-season but hopefully that changes come week 1. We've seen it happen before, but it's tough to be optimistic after just watching so much dead weight playing important roles
Not a good night for Eli  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 8:30 pm : link
Missed Beckham for sure TD and throws pick-six
I keep telling myself it's preseason.  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 8/29/2015 8:30 pm : link
...
Ok, I know most of you say it is only pre season and not need to panic  
213374 : 8/29/2015 8:31 pm : link
but the Jints are getting carved up be Ryan Fitzpatrick and the offense is abysmal, I am asking when is it time to panic. Keep in mind I have been a fan since 1955 and have seen some of the worst football imaginable.
holy fuck  
Maccorkles667 : 8/29/2015 8:31 pm : link
if you think this team is winning more than 5 games this year, you need to hand in your football fan card
Looking like  
natefit : 8/29/2015 8:31 pm : link
we will be free on Sundays Thanksgiving...
This is supposed to be an explosive offense?!  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:32 pm : link
Are you kidding me! Just terrible job. Totally undisciplined play.
I mean I see a lot that bothers me  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 8:32 pm : link
but that interception isn't one of them. Shit happens, good read and play by Cromartie, next
bad throw by Eli, bad playcall too  
Vanzetti : 8/29/2015 8:32 pm : link
if the pass is caught, the half is basically over with the Giants out of FG range

McAdoo and Eli both get a thumbs down on that one

but that's what preseason is for--to work out the kinks
eric  
MookGiants : 8/29/2015 8:32 pm : link
you're on this thread, how can you not seen the maccorkles is a troll? and likely a dupe?
Eli  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 8:32 pm : link
stared down Jones for a good five seconds. Really bad. Kuhn was driven back on the two point conversion.

Team has no down field threat except for Beckham.

No pass rush.

Still crashing in on simple screens. Not keeping contain. Same problem as last year. People not playing their assignments.

Bad safety play.

Not impressed by the OL in terms of run blocking, except for Flowers.
Team is shit  
UberAlias : 8/29/2015 8:32 pm : link
It is going to be an ugly year.
RE: Not a good night for Eli  
River Mike : 8/29/2015 8:32 pm : link
In comment 12441908 Steve Filipowicz said:
Quote:
Missed Beckham for sure TD and throws pick-six


Not a good pre-season fo Eli ... so far.
They should just cut eli  
dep026 : 8/29/2015 8:33 pm : link
and hold try outs for bbi members.
New uniforms might help  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 8:33 pm : link
Maybe this team should wear the Vegas-style "NY" uniform of the mid-1970s. As has been noted, these guys are playing like they're from that era.
RE: eric  
Maccorkles667 : 8/29/2015 8:33 pm : link
In comment 12441916 MookGiants said:
Quote:
you're on this thread, how can you not seen the maccorkles is a troll? and likely a dupe?


what the fuck are you talking about? mind your own fucking business, dude
Mook  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/29/2015 8:34 pm : link
does not appear to be a dupe. How is he a troll?
RE: RE: Stupid  
jeff57 : 8/29/2015 8:34 pm : link
In comment 12441906 Annunaki said:
Quote:
In comment 12441896 Eric from BBI said:


Quote:


fucking throw given the situation. Would not have helped even had he completed it.

This team is going to be 6-10 at best.



I agree, 6-10 would be a win at this point.


Will that finally result in changes in coaching and the front office?
RE: Mook  
rut17 : 8/29/2015 8:35 pm : link
In comment 12441924 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
does not appear to be a dupe. How is he a troll?


Take a look at any of the threads he's posted on in the last few days. Obvious troll.
Eli keeps hoping #84 gets open at some point  
Mason : 8/29/2015 8:35 pm : link
But yeah, Donnell has been unable to get any separation tonight. To me he has played like someone who should be on the bubble but he has last season I guess.
natefit  
NewBlue : 8/29/2015 8:35 pm : link
It will be well before Thanksgiving.
But not to worry, we will lock up Manning shortly for another 4 years...This is not Mannings fault, but when someone gets $20 million dollars per year exceptional things are supposed to happen.....
RE: Mook  
dep026 : 8/29/2015 8:35 pm : link
In comment 12441924 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
does not appear to be a dupe. How is he a troll?


eric... just watch his posts in the future. the guy has no purpose here.
yeah it can be different when the real bullets fly  
micky : 8/29/2015 8:35 pm : link
But can see the mistakes (which is constant in if not in one area, it's in another) and STILL working to get people in right areas, and of course injuries, leads me to believe it could wind up 5 to 6 win season. I'D be shocked if 9 or 10
Nope I'm not getting getting sucked into the preseason  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 8:36 pm : link
nonsense. Seen the Giants go 6-0 in preseason and go 3-13. Seen them go 0-5 and win a Super Bowl. Nope it's preseason and it don't mean shit. My comments are only about THIS game. This has nothing to do do good or bad with the regular season.
RE: Mook  
MookGiants : 8/29/2015 8:36 pm : link
In comment 12441924 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
does not appear to be a dupe. How is he a troll?


He's either a troll or just a complete schmuck. Take your pick
rut17  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/29/2015 8:36 pm : link
e-mail me or the moderators with examples. Thanks.
It's a shame...  
M.S. : 8/29/2015 8:37 pm : link
...Coughlin goes out with a 4-win season.

He deserves better.
RE: eric  
micky : 8/29/2015 8:37 pm : link
In comment 12441916 MookGiants said:
Quote:
you're on this thread, how can you not seen the maccorkles is a troll? and likely a dupe?


He admitted in earlier thread as "to be really not as much a giants fan" js
This defense  
bc0312 : 8/29/2015 8:38 pm : link
may be one of the worst in the league this year.
Giants had no pass rush,  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 8:38 pm : link
couldn't hold edge on runs and all 4 DBs look confused. Jenkins invisible, Moore makes tackle when runner slips to ground

On offense, Pugh playing terribly, Robinson runs in quicksand, geremy Davis invisible, no Cruz, Randle and no sight of Donnell- not much for Eli to look at for passes
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/29/2015 8:39 pm : link
The problem is this:

We know the defense is going to be bad.

The offense has to carry this team.

But the offense looks average at best (and that's being kind).
Giants  
rocco8112 : 8/29/2015 8:39 pm : link
looked ok on the scoring drive. Mixed it up and went 85 for six.

Odd how the timing between Beckem amd Eli seems so off.

That pick was classic Eli, I think he even thinks before the snap, I am going to let it rip no matter what. Game is a practice game anyway let's make a play. I am not absolving him, but I will not lose sleep over it either.Sure would like Giants DB to make a play like that pick six.

D looks horrible.

D looks horrid,
Lol  
Les in TO : 8/29/2015 8:39 pm : link
To those blaming Jones.
No indication of the regular season  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 8:40 pm : link
sorry
How can anybody be optimistic  
Gman11 : 8/29/2015 8:40 pm : link
after seeing what the first teamers have done this preseason?

The defense is terrible and the offense isn't much better.

I really don't see anything in their game to think this is going to be a competitive team. I don't see any improvement from last year.

Please make this one of those preseasons where the team totally sucks then plays well in the regular season. Does anybody think it's possible?
There is no carry over preseason to regular season  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 8:41 pm : link
never did never will
Was that our guy...  
M.S. : 8/29/2015 8:41 pm : link
...Marcus Kuhn out there in first couple series when the Jets ran the ball so well?

In a word  
blueblood'11 : 8/29/2015 8:41 pm : link
No
Route was suppose to be an in  
BigBlueJ : 8/29/2015 8:41 pm : link
JOnes sat.
RE: There is no carry over preseason to regular season  
BigBlueJ : 8/29/2015 8:42 pm : link
In comment 12441948 Headhunter said:
Quote:
never did never will


This...
Meaningless  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 8:42 pm : link
doesn't mean that they can't be a bad team, but it's not because of these games
Questions..  
trueblueinpw : 8/29/2015 8:42 pm : link
Need to see more of Kuhn; still not sure if he's completely worthless or if he may be a serviceable tackling sled.

Also curious, does anyone know where Jets qb played his college ball?
RE: Nope I'm not getting getting sucked into the preseason  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:42 pm : link
In comment 12441935 Headhunter said:
Quote:
nonsense. Seen the Giants go 6-0 in preseason and go 3-13. Seen them go 0-5 and win a Super Bowl. Nope it's preseason and it don't mean shit. My comments are only about THIS game. This has nothing to do do good or bad with the regular season.


Unfortunately, there's really nothing you could hang your hat on and be optimistic about. I've seen nothing from this team so far in pre-season. Nothing at all to get excited about and say perhaps we can be good. Way too much uncertainty, inconsistent play and lack of physicality.
Meanwhile  
eclipz928 : 8/29/2015 8:42 pm : link
the Eagles have been looking REALLY good this preseason. Sam Bradford has been very sharp.
So  
blueblood'11 : 8/29/2015 8:43 pm : link
Anyone want to venture a guess who the new head coach of the Giants will be next year.
If you can name one season  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 8:44 pm : link
where the preseason carried over to the regular season, tell me in detail what season
RE: There is no carry over preseason to regular season  
River Mike : 8/29/2015 8:44 pm : link
In comment 12441948 Headhunter said:
Quote:
never did never will


Simply not true
Can't run the ball...  
M.S. : 8/29/2015 8:44 pm : link
...can't stop the run.

Going on 4 fucking years of shit football.

Just blows.
it's so bad that even the giants annoucers  
micky : 8/29/2015 8:45 pm : link
Papa..is bad..dropping bank birthday cake on air lmfao
Bob Papa just dropped Banks' birthday cake.  
Mr. Bungle : 8/29/2015 8:45 pm : link
That kind of night.
To those blaming Jones  
NewBlue : 8/29/2015 8:45 pm : link
It's just trying to find a fall guy to take the blame off Manning......Manning is showing why he is not a top 10 QB in this league, lets stop about lackluster receivers, let's stop with an OL that can't block, lets stop with Gilbride.
Eli needs to look in the mirror.

Nassib time.....  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:45 pm : link
.
Papa  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 8:45 pm : link
fumbles Banks's birthday cake. It's contagious.
RE: Was that our guy...  
Mason : 8/29/2015 8:45 pm : link
In comment 12441949 M.S. said:
Quote:
...Marcus Kuhn out there in first couple series when the Jets ran the ball so well?


Yes. If you still need to evaluate Kuhn at this point I don't care if you are a coach, personnel guy, owner, reporter or fan then you need evaluation.
First play of 2d half  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 8:45 pm : link
Reynolds gets stood up and play loses yardage
River Mike  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 8:45 pm : link
Oh please
Kerry Wynn  
shyster : 8/29/2015 8:46 pm : link
Very poor in holding the edge, no pressure. I like a feel good story as much as anyone but I like it better when the guy can actually play.
I still think we are improving each pre-season game.  
USAF NYG Fan : 8/29/2015 8:47 pm : link
Until that interception Eli was going strong. At one point he was 10-11. That interception was bad throw, bad play call, and poor effort by the WR. That WR is no match for Antonio anyway. I wonder if Cruz or even RR would have come back to the ball. Also the one to Beckham when he had Revis beat could have thrown better of course. Otherwise, the timing has really improved.

The rest of the offense looks improved as well. Flowers is a beast on that left side. We have to straighten out the right side though. I wonder how we would do with a dominant RT but I don't know what Reese would have to do to get one at this point. Even if/when Beatty comes back he'll need time to shake the rust off. Jennings looked good out there and so did Vereen. We have a screen game again.

As for the defense, Prince needs to shake some rust off. I expect the defense to do poorly well into the season. It's a new defense. We went 0-2 into the season last time Spags started as our DC. It will take time. Our safety situation is really really bad and we desperately need some pass rush. We are giving offenses all day to throw the ball.
Bobby Hart having problems  
jeff57 : 8/29/2015 8:47 pm : link
.
Hart  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 8:48 pm : link
with the penalty, and then was beaten on the edge.
Nassib looks good  
Jim Burt64 : 8/29/2015 8:49 pm : link
Bobby Hart.. interesting
Very  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 8:50 pm : link
nice throw by Nassib on the run on first down.
Everyone's hero Jay Bromley  
Joey in VA : 8/29/2015 8:50 pm : link
Finally got meaningful action against starters and got tossed around on every play but one. Looking OK vs bums is all well and good but he was shit tonight, absolute shit.
Joey  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 8:51 pm : link
You are full of shit and you have an agenda and go fuck yourself psycho
I dont see a winning team here at all.  
jawebb20 : 8/29/2015 8:51 pm : link
defense awful
offense looks like it's going to be ok between the 20yd lines

I just dont see it, sorry.

We could catch fire, find 1 or 2 or 3 concepts that become difficult to defend, but I dont see a 10-6 team at all.

We look exactly like we have the last 3 years: No depth, no dominance on either side of the ball.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/29/2015 8:52 pm : link
Steve Weatherford may be facing battle here. Malone now holding.
RE: ...  
bigbluescot : 8/29/2015 8:54 pm : link
In comment 12441984 Eric from BBI said:
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Steve Weatherford may be facing battle here. Malone now holding.


Weatherford has been off for a while now. Never had the biggest leg and it looks like he's topping out in the 40-45 yard range with pretty average hang time.
Yeah, Bromley looked like the most productive DT in the first half  
Mason : 8/29/2015 8:54 pm : link
I don't know where that getting "tossed around" stuff was when I was watching the 1st half. When he and Ellis were in the game the Jets running game halted and got some licks put on them.
Remove the interception...  
EricJ : 8/29/2015 8:54 pm : link
Eli (through three pre-season games) has been off. Accuracy is just not there right now.

Nassib seems to be dealing with the same issues right now.
Prince  
Jay in Toronto : 8/29/2015 8:54 pm : link
Didn't look 100%
He has an agenda  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 8:54 pm : link
ignore him, let your eyes be the judge.
RE: Remove the interception...  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:56 pm : link
In comment 12441987 EricJ said:
Quote:
Eli (through three pre-season games) has been off. Accuracy is just not there right now.

Nassib seems to be dealing with the same issues right now.


Sullivan is working with him now.....?!
Malone has the leg for distance  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 8:56 pm : link
But he punts down the middle of the field and so far IMO his hang time is only OK
RE: ...  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 8:56 pm : link
In comment 12441984 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
Steve Weatherford may be facing battle here. Malone now holding.


Agreed.
RE: RE: ...  
Jay in Toronto : 8/29/2015 8:57 pm : link
In comment 12441985 bigbluescot said:
Quote:
In comment 12441984 Eric from BBI said:


Quote:


Steve Weatherford may be facing battle here. Malone now holding.




Weatherford has been off for a while now. Never had the biggest leg and it looks like he's topping out in the 40-45 yard range with pretty average hang time.

Hang time was good on the muffed punt
Two Giants in offensive backfield  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 8:57 pm : link
and both mis tackle
So far I think taylor  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 8:58 pm : link
Is looking ok at safety.
RE: So far I think taylor  
bigbluescot : 8/29/2015 8:59 pm : link
In comment 12441995 Simms11 said:
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Is looking ok at safety.


Don't say that his hamstrings will hear you.
Kuhn  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 9:00 pm : link
back on the field on running downs. Think the Giants are taking a long look at him. Wynn needs to get more pressure.
PR shitty, and KR shitty.......  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 9:00 pm : link
Specials could be a real boost this year, but other then Brown, I don't see it.
Any one find it interesting  
NewBlue : 8/29/2015 9:01 pm : link
That Manning is not extended yet?
Have  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/29/2015 9:01 pm : link
we even gotten close to the QB tonight?
RE: River Mike  
River Mike : 8/29/2015 9:02 pm : link
In comment 12441971 Headhunter said:
Quote:
Oh please


"Oh please"?

Lets just go back to 2013 ... finished up pre-season with 3 straight losses and began regular season with 6 straight losses. But that's too simple. More often than not the W/L record does not necessarily reflect the quality of play. Over the past few years they've had a pattern of the starters stinking it up and the backups come in and win the game. So a winning record in Preseason could be an illusion. The pre-season record means nothing, its the pre-season performance by your starters that may mean something.
RE: PR shitty, and KR shitty.......  
bigbluescot : 8/29/2015 9:02 pm : link
In comment 12441999 Simms11 said:
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Specials could be a real boost this year, but other then Brown, I don't see it.


It's strange, there's been bunch of guys brought in who've been noted for stellar specials play either at college or at their previous NFL teams, but we look about the same as always which isn't great.
RE: Have  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 9:03 pm : link
In comment 12442002 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
we even gotten close to the QB tonight?


No. And that coupled with bad safety play is going to make this a long year for the defense. On the other side of the ball, we don't seem to have any big play capability except for Beckham.
RE: Kuhn  
Mason : 8/29/2015 9:03 pm : link
In comment 12441998 AcidTest said:
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back on the field on running downs. Think the Giants are taking a long look at him. Wynn needs to get more pressure.


Maybe trying to increase his trade value but seriously I thought starters would get a lot of action tonight since next week it will mostly be guys that most likely will be cut.
RE: Have  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 9:03 pm : link
In comment 12442002 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
we even gotten close to the QB tonight?


Depends what you mean by close?! Arms length, hand length or just see him?
This team has been awful  
Essex : 8/29/2015 9:05 pm : link
Since Hurricane Sandy, preseason or regular season (starters)
Wow!  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 9:05 pm : link
Seems like jets still have many starters in.
Richardson shreds zRobinson like  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 9:05 pm : link
Tissue paper
nice STs  
micky : 8/29/2015 9:05 pm : link
.
Calm down  
jawebb20 : 8/29/2015 9:06 pm : link
Its just preseason guys


nothing like beaten in every phase of teh game
So much for the Malone experiment!  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 9:06 pm : link
.
This team stinks..  
Jim Burt64 : 8/29/2015 9:06 pm : link
my God
RE: This team has been awful  
Mason : 8/29/2015 9:06 pm : link
In comment 12442010 Essex said:
Quote:
Since Hurricane Sandy, preseason or regular season (starters)


Oh no that takes me back to those Eli memes of Life in Hoboken.
This game has everything. Or nothing.  
NoPeanutz : 8/29/2015 9:07 pm : link
Well at least this beating came at the hands of a worthy opponent.
I like the Sandy theory. Time to move camp back to Bear Mountain.
RE: This team has been awful  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 9:07 pm : link
In comment 12442010 Essex said:
Quote:
Since Hurricane Sandy, preseason or regular season (starters)


10.29.12.
Yeah, it's pre-season  
ChathamMark : 8/29/2015 9:07 pm : link
but this one is depressing. Give us a few bright spots.
This will not be a hard cutdown day  
NewBlue : 8/29/2015 9:07 pm : link
I mean the final cutdown day.......
we need new life  
jawebb20 : 8/29/2015 9:07 pm : link
from up top

TCs gotta go.

this path of patchwork veteran fixing is not good enough.
Any hope?  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 9:07 pm : link
Until that play the special teams were good. Now, that team's been exposed, too.
that's going to set off TC  
WeatherMan : 8/29/2015 9:07 pm : link
ugly job of coverage.
If this team can turn it around for week 1  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 9:08 pm : link
I'd be extremely surprised...it's starting to look like it will be a long year and we haven't even played game 1 yet. I just hope we don't get embarrassed in Dallas.
RE: we need new life  
hudson : 8/29/2015 9:08 pm : link
In comment 12442025 jawebb20 said:
Quote:
from up top

TCs gotta go.

this path of patchwork veteran fixing is not good enough.

What a stupid comment.
Really, TCs to blame?

How about Reese and Marc Ross/the scouting department?
How about filling the roster with the "JPP" of tight ends?
This team just gets stronger  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 9:09 pm : link
and stronger as the game wears on. SMH.
Nice  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 9:09 pm : link
to see that special teams are still special. Prior to that play, Nassib was almost sacked for a safety. Unreal.
Annoying thing is that Nassib saw what the  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 9:09 pm : link
Jets were doing, had Robinson came back into backfield for extra blocking. Richardson beats Gettis on snap and runs through Robinson to sack Nassib.
The TD was deliberate.  
CT Charlie : 8/29/2015 9:09 pm : link
TC wanted to see more of the offense, as he already knows how bad the D is.
RE: If this team can turn it around for week 1  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 9:09 pm : link
In comment 12442029 Simms11 said:
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I'd be extremely surprised...it's starting to look like it will be a long year and we haven't even played game 1 yet. I just hope we don't get embarrassed in Dallas.


I don't think the Cowboys have looked too great, either. The team that can humiliate the Giants, IMO, is Philadelphia.
..  
NewBlue : 8/29/2015 9:09 pm : link
There are deficiencies all over the roster
RE: So much for the Malone experiment!  
EricJ : 8/29/2015 9:10 pm : link
In comment 12442016 Simms11 said:
Quote:
.


So, we cant tackle a guy because the punt goes to the middle of the field? I am so tired of that nonsense. Yes, kicking it to the sideline HELPS your coverage team. However, it should never mean that kicking to the center of the field should result in a big return consistently.

I see us RECEIVING punts in the middle of the field all of the time. Why aren't those being returned for a score... or even for a huge gain?
Who are the hot  
Somnambulist : 8/29/2015 9:10 pm : link
College propects this year? For sure we'll have a top 5 pick.
Yeah  
KWALL2 : 8/29/2015 9:10 pm : link
That 4th round TE can't play. That's the problem!
And to think  
Gman11 : 8/29/2015 9:10 pm : link
I'm spending my Saturday night watching this
The Mighty Quinn strikes agin  
jeff57 : 8/29/2015 9:11 pm : link
.
RE: RE: we need new life  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 9:11 pm : link
In comment 12442030 hudson said:
Quote:
In comment 12442025 jawebb20 said:


Quote:


from up top

TCs gotta go.

this path of patchwork veteran fixing is not good enough.


What a stupid comment.
Really, TCs to blame?

How about Reese and Marc Ross/the scouting department?
How about filling the roster with the "JPP" of tight ends?


I agree I think Reese, Ross, TC, Spags, McAdoo, everyone...... they all need to go. I love TC but he has ran his course, it's over.
Very, very hard to watch a team...  
M.S. : 8/29/2015 9:11 pm : link
...so depleted in talent and so weak and worthless at the LOS. Makes watching the Giants more a chore than a pleasure.

Boys... it's looking like a long, cold brutal season.
RE: RE: If this team can turn it around for week 1  
Essex : 8/29/2015 9:11 pm : link
In comment 12442035 D_Giants said:
Quote:
In comment 12442029 Simms11 said:


Quote:


I'd be extremely surprised...it's starting to look like it will be a long year and we haven't even played game 1 yet. I just hope we don't get embarrassed in Dallas.



I don't think the Cowboys have looked too great, either. The team that can humiliate the Giants, IMO, is Philadelphia.


They are at it again, they had like 25 points in first quarter and Bradford was 10-10. But it is only preseason
Simms -  
Diver_Down : 8/29/2015 9:11 pm : link
At this rate, I just hope we aren't embarrassed in Tampa.
RE: RE: If this team can turn it around for week 1  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 9:12 pm : link
In comment 12442035 D_Giants said:
Quote:
In comment 12442029 Simms11 said:


Quote:


I'd be extremely surprised...it's starting to look like it will be a long year and we haven't even played game 1 yet. I just hope we don't get embarrassed in Dallas.

I wouldn't be so sure. We're playing on a Sunday night in Dallas. I think the Eagles will also have their way with us, but it's just ugly, can't even find some optimism.



I don't think the Cowboys have looked too great, either. The team that can humiliate the Giants, IMO, is Philadelphia.
Spa Days  
GiantSteps : 8/29/2015 9:12 pm : link
no more for us
....  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 9:13 pm : link
The eagles have been humiliating the Giants for the past 7 years
would they consider the "spa"  
micky : 8/29/2015 9:14 pm : link
Helpful so far? I don't know.
RE: ....  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 9:14 pm : link
In comment 12442049 Route 9 in LEH said:
Quote:
The eagles have been humiliating the Giants for the past 7 years


Absolutely true. We may reach new level of humiliation this year.
RE: RE: we need new life  
jawebb20 : 8/29/2015 9:14 pm : link
In comment 12442030 hudson said:
Quote:
In comment 12442025 jawebb20 said:


Quote:


from up top

TCs gotta go.

this path of patchwork veteran fixing is not good enough.


What a stupid comment.
Really, TCs to blame?

How about Reese and Marc Ross/the scouting department?
How about filling the roster with the "JPP" of tight ends?


TC singlehandedly handcuffed McAdoo last year, when we had leads against SEA and DAL, during pivotal moments in the season.

This team needs new life.

It needs a leader, and TC is just too old now to lead this guy. They no doubt love him as a HC, but he's no longer effective at exactly that-- Coaching.

We need a guy whose going to breathe life into this team so that we can cover up some of these awful holes we have.
RE: RE: RE: we need new life  
Essex : 8/29/2015 9:14 pm : link
In comment 12442043 Annunaki said:
Quote:
In comment 12442030 hudson said:


Quote:


In comment 12442025 jawebb20 said:


Quote:


from up top

TCs gotta go.

this path of patchwork veteran fixing is not good enough.


What a stupid comment.
Really, TCs to blame?

How about Reese and Marc Ross/the scouting department?
How about filling the roster with the "JPP" of tight ends?



I agree I think Reese, Ross, TC, Spags, McAdoo, everyone...... they all need to go. I love TC but he has ran his course, it's over.


It was over in 2013, our owners started believing how great they were for keeping him. We were 9-7 in 2011, it has been a long time since we have played good football. I thought we were a better team in 2010 than 2011.
RE: Who are the hot  
jeff57 : 8/29/2015 9:14 pm : link
In comment 12442039 Somnambulist said:
Quote:
College propects this year? For sure we'll have a top 5 pick.


Bosa
Tunsil
Stanley
Hargreaves
Myles Jack

....  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 9:15 pm : link
Jones > Randle?
If this team  
Mister Charming : 8/29/2015 9:15 pm : link
Gets 4 wins, then I would be surprised.
I can't get the game up here in the middle of the Adirondacks.  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 8/29/2015 9:15 pm : link
I threw the remote just listening to you clowns!
Now  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 9:15 pm : link
Hart is hurt. Leg injury. Wasn't putting any weight on his foot.
oh shit...  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 9:16 pm : link
Nassib running with attitude
Well, since there's little else to look forward to  
Greg from LI : 8/29/2015 9:16 pm : link
I'm eagerly awaiting the verbal contortions some people will put themselves through in order to avoid putting any blame whatsoever on St. Tom.
RE: RE: RE: RE: we need new life  
jawebb20 : 8/29/2015 9:17 pm : link
In comment 12442053 Essex said:
Quote:
In comment 12442043 Annunaki said:


Quote:


In comment 12442030 hudson said:


Quote:


In comment 12442025 jawebb20 said:


Quote:


from up top

TCs gotta go.

this path of patchwork veteran fixing is not good enough.


What a stupid comment.
Really, TCs to blame?

How about Reese and Marc Ross/the scouting department?
How about filling the roster with the "JPP" of tight ends?



I agree I think Reese, Ross, TC, Spags, McAdoo, everyone...... they all need to go. I love TC but he has ran his course, it's over.



It was over in 2013, our owners started believing how great they were for keeping him. We were 9-7 in 2011, it has been a long time since we have played good football. I thought we were a better team in 2010 than 2011.


the greatest mistake Mara made was constantly giving TC 1 year extensions.


It's over,

what evidence do we have that this is a 10-6 team?


None.
RE: ...  
baadbill : 8/29/2015 9:17 pm : link
In comment 12441943 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
The problem is this:

We know the defense is going to be bad.

The offense has to carry this team.

But the offense looks average at best (and that's being kind).


But the defense may be historically bad - worse than any of us ever imagined. So bad that we may find ourselves measuring defensive successes by whether or not the other team had to punt at least once per game.
RE: I can't get the game up here in the middle of the Adirondacks.  
Essex : 8/29/2015 9:17 pm : link
In comment 12442061 Tittle 9 20 64 said:
Quote:
I threw the remote just listening to you clowns!

I wish my cable went out. This has been torture
RE: ....  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 9:17 pm : link
In comment 12442059 Route 9 in LEH said:
Quote:
Jones > Randle?


God damn YOU
Nassib showing very  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 9:17 pm : link
quick release
Jones apart of both TOs  
Annunaki : 8/29/2015 9:17 pm : link
Not good for his odds of making the team.
Glorified practice  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 9:17 pm : link
where 36 guys will be doing something else by next Sunday
Looked down and then ripped, but not sure..  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 9:18 pm : link
.
I feel bad for coach  
Mister Charming : 8/29/2015 9:19 pm : link
He's going to take the fall for a bunch of worthless bums.
RE: I can't get the game up here in the middle of the Adirondacks.  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 9:19 pm : link
In comment 12442061 Tittle 9 20 64 said:
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I threw the remote just listening to you clowns!


Be thankful you're not seeing this. It's ugly.
Hart  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/29/2015 9:19 pm : link
injury looked bad.
At least we won't go in with any false hopes.  
Dry Lightning : 8/29/2015 9:20 pm : link
Offense stinks, Defense stinks, Special teams stink. By the way, the injury excuse does not work for offense. Beatty, who stinks, has been replaced by the best lineman on the team, in Flowers. The defense stinks, and that is not just because of the safety situation. Specials have no excuse. Team just stinks.
jerry reese  
sundayatone : 8/29/2015 9:20 pm : link
we think we are very close to super bowl contention, mike
Still don't know if Giants  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 9:20 pm : link
D can handle read option. Would like to see Petty run a few of those plays
RE: Hart  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 9:20 pm : link
In comment 12442083 Eric from BBI said:
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injury looked bad.


That's really bad news. Hart was looking to be a prospect.
RE: Hart  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 9:21 pm : link
In comment 12442083 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
injury looked bad.


I bet they put him on IR.
cant wait till  
jawebb20 : 8/29/2015 9:21 pm : link
No one can blame Perry anymore

How about we just stop drafting guys who are slow as hell?
Taylor having a good night.....  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 9:22 pm : link
Can that dude at least stay on the field?!
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/29/2015 9:22 pm : link
New York Giants ‏@Giants 38s38 seconds ago

Injury Update: Guard Bobby Hart is doubtful to return with a knee injury #NYJvsNYG
safety blitz  
jawebb20 : 8/29/2015 9:22 pm : link
Worked 10 years ago.

Try it today against Rodgers, Wilson, Luck, etc.
RE: Well, since there's little else to look forward to  
Essex : 8/29/2015 9:22 pm : link
In comment 12442064 Greg from LI said:
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I'm eagerly awaiting the verbal contortions some people will put themselves through in order to avoid putting any blame whatsoever on St. Tom.

There is no doubt he is a good coach, but he is far from a dominant or elite coach. Our Super Bowl years weren't great seasons, 2007 was a good season, 2011 was a mediocre season. I thought his three best regular seasons were 2008, 2005, 2007. It is 2015. We won Super Bowls with him and that's great, but we are keeping him way beyond his sell date as a reward. That is fine, but don't anyone try to tell me he doesn't share blame in this.
RE: cant wait till  
sundayatone : 8/29/2015 9:23 pm : link
In comment 12442094 jawebb20 said:
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No one can blame Perry anymore

How about we just stop drafting guys who are slow as hell?



but he can play special teams

marc/jerry
Taylor  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 9:23 pm : link
with the sack. It helped that nobody blocked him.
Of course we have another knee injury.....  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 9:23 pm : link
can we get through a game, practice or walk through without one?!
There is no way  
NewBlue : 8/29/2015 9:23 pm : link
TC can or should survive the impending disaster, while not all his fault, I think the message is wearing thin
Pugh really screwed the offense tonight  
Mason : 8/29/2015 9:23 pm : link
Thought Flowers supposed to be guy that everyone was worried about holding up. Is LG really okay going forward?
a Cooper Taylor sighting  
WeatherMan : 8/29/2015 9:23 pm : link
please stay healthy.
I'll wait till mid October  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 9:23 pm : link
see what we have
I don't know how some of you think that TC is the problem here...  
EricJ : 8/29/2015 9:24 pm : link
when it is clearly the talent level. Lets put a 10 finger JPP back on the field and also Beatty. Now, how much better is this team realistically. Marginally better at best.

So, what coach do you want to bring in now? Who exactly is going to turn this bunch of misfit toys into a championship team?
RE: RE: cant wait till  
jawebb20 : 8/29/2015 9:25 pm : link
In comment 12442102 sundayatone said:
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In comment 12442094 jawebb20 said:


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No one can blame Perry anymore

How about we just stop drafting guys who are slow as hell?




but he can play special teams

marc/jerry


Jolly, team captain, white collar good guys dont cut it in this league all the time.

Jerry, Ross and TC are determined to build a team full of jolly stiffs.
Pugh stinks  
Dry Lightning : 8/29/2015 9:25 pm : link
that pick was one that really set this team back in a bad way. Good dude, but just worthless.
Prediction:  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 9:25 pm : link
Every player that was on the 90-man roster this year will be on the 53-man roster by season end. The injuries are insane, and many are season-ending.
RE: There is no way  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 9:25 pm : link
In comment 12442105 NewBlue said:
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TC can or should survive the impending disaster, while not all his fault, I think the message is wearing thin


Unfortunately, I think it will be the case and Reese should go too. This team looks like it might have to start over.
RE: ...  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 9:26 pm : link
In comment 12442097 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
New York Giants ‏@Giants 38s38 seconds ago

Injury Update: Guard Bobby Hart is doubtful to return with a knee injury #NYJvsNYG


Hope he's OK, and that it's minor.
Prediction  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 9:26 pm : link
nobody will be talking about the preseason week 2
RE: RE: There is no way  
jawebb20 : 8/29/2015 9:27 pm : link
In comment 12442116 Simms11 said:
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In comment 12442105 NewBlue said:


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TC can or should survive the impending disaster, while not all his fault, I think the message is wearing thin



Unfortunately, I think it will be the case and Reese should go too. This team looks like it might have to start over.


FAct:

Reese NEVER picked his HC or QB


you think he's getting fired?


get me some vodkas, now plz
On Defense  
hitdog42 : 8/29/2015 9:27 pm : link
would like to see Ellis starting with Hankins. Would also like to see Owa starting with Ayers.
Mclain is awful they need Beason.
Would like to see Cooper Taylor play against a first unit.
The starting front 4 tonight couldnt win games in the SEC let alone the NFL. its an embarrassing unit.
Stop  
jawebb20 : 8/29/2015 9:27 pm : link
absolving TC by throwing Reese under the bus.

RE: I don't know how some of you think that TC is the problem here...  
Essex : 8/29/2015 9:28 pm : link
In comment 12442111 EricJ said:
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when it is clearly the talent level. Lets put a 10 finger JPP back on the field and also Beatty. Now, how much better is this team realistically. Marginally better at best.

So, what coach do you want to bring in now? Who exactly is going to turn this bunch of misfit toys into a championship team?

I am not really impressed with the talent level in Philly and they have won 20 games in th last two years.
RE: Prediction  
micky : 8/29/2015 9:28 pm : link
In comment 12442119 Headhunter said:
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nobody will be talking about the preseason week 2


Nope..they'll be talking about NY Rangers ..jk! Ha
Pugh does stink  
Mister Charming : 8/29/2015 9:28 pm : link
But I'm not sure why Prince gets so much love. I think he's an average corner, at best.
RE: RE: There is no way  
sundayatone : 8/29/2015 9:29 pm : link
In comment 12442116 Simms11 said:
Quote:
In comment 12442105 NewBlue said:


Quote:


TC can or should survive the impending disaster, while not all his fault, I think the message is wearing thin



Unfortunately, I think it will be the case and Reese should go too. This team looks like it might have to start over.


but what about jerrys kids school?
RE: RE: I don't know how some of you think that TC is the problem here...  
Toth029 : 8/29/2015 9:29 pm : link
In comment 12442126 Essex said:
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In comment 12442111 EricJ said:


Quote:


when it is clearly the talent level. Lets put a 10 finger JPP back on the field and also Beatty. Now, how much better is this team realistically. Marginally better at best.

So, what coach do you want to bring in now? Who exactly is going to turn this bunch of misfit toys into a championship team?


I am not really impressed with the talent level in Philly and they have won 20 games in th last two years.

Look at who've they had on their OL and DL and you see why.
Not saying they are going to be a good team  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 9:29 pm : link
I'm just not playing the preseason nonsense
RE: Pugh does stink  
jawebb20 : 8/29/2015 9:29 pm : link
In comment 12442129 Mister Charming said:
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But I'm not sure why Prince gets so much love. I think he's an average corner, at best.


Prince is a nice player, above average #2 corner


The problem is that he is not a playmaker.

You dont give fat contracts to players who dont playmake.
RE: RE: There is no way  
EricJ : 8/29/2015 9:29 pm : link
In comment 12442116 Simms11 said:
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In comment 12442105 NewBlue said:


Quote:


TC can or should survive the impending disaster, while not all his fault, I think the message is wearing thin



Unfortunately, I think it will be the case and Reese should go too. This team looks like it might have to start over.


Mara will never make a change if the Giants win 7 or more games. They will use injuries again as a reason to give everyone another chance.

I remember last year Mara so excited to tell us how they use GPS now to help with the health of their players. Still trying to figure that one out.
Major injuries in Giants/Jets preseason games  
baadbill : 8/29/2015 9:29 pm : link
... and they don't include season ending injury to Phil Simms? wtf kind of list is that?
RE: Prediction  
Essex : 8/29/2015 9:30 pm : link
In comment 12442119 Headhunter said:
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nobody will be talking about the preseason week 2

Yeah we will just be upset that we are 0-2. Please give me one reason for optimism based on anything you have seen from the starters in the preseason
Jawed: do you mean the  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 9:30 pm : link
HC and QB who won 2 SBs for him?
RE: RE: I don't know how some of you think that TC is the problem here...  
dpinzow : 8/29/2015 9:30 pm : link
In comment 12442126 Essex said:
Quote:
In comment 12442111 EricJ said:


Quote:


when it is clearly the talent level. Lets put a 10 finger JPP back on the field and also Beatty. Now, how much better is this team realistically. Marginally better at best.

So, what coach do you want to bring in now? Who exactly is going to turn this bunch of misfit toys into a championship team?


I am not really impressed with the talent level in Philly and they have won 20 games in th last two years.


Good lines, good skill positions at least the last two years outside of QB
RE: RE: I don't know how some of you think that TC is the problem here...  
dep026 : 8/29/2015 9:31 pm : link
In comment 12442126 Essex said:
Quote:
In comment 12442111 EricJ said:


Quote:


when it is clearly the talent level. Lets put a 10 finger JPP back on the field and also Beatty. Now, how much better is this team realistically. Marginally better at best.

So, what coach do you want to bring in now? Who exactly is going to turn this bunch of misfit toys into a championship team?


I am not really impressed with the talent level in Philly and they have won 20 games in th last two years.


helps to have an awesome OLine. peters, kelce, johnson, mathis.... I know some of them missed games... but they are excellent players.
Jets certainly look much better prepared  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 9:31 pm : link
to compete in two weeks. I know it's only pre-season, but man we just do not look remotely good.
Because it is glorified practice  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 9:32 pm : link
and the regular season is a different game.
Meant  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 9:32 pm : link
Jawebb
RE: Pugh does stink  
EricJ : 8/29/2015 9:32 pm : link
In comment 12442129 Mister Charming said:
Quote:
But I'm not sure why Prince gets so much love. I think he's an average corner, at best.


Prince is "ok". I am not worried at all when I see him out there. However, the opposition does not fear him at all and he is not a difference maker. Nothing wrong with that BTW.

Like Ross, Prince also has not played up to his draft position. When you take a guy that high you expect him to be a little more than average.
wonder if fredo mara went  
sundayatone : 8/29/2015 9:33 pm : link
to the travers today.
RE: Jawed: do you mean the  
jawebb20 : 8/29/2015 9:33 pm : link
In comment 12442139 Steve Filipowicz said:
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HC and QB who won 2 SBs for him?


Do you pay people on past performance or future performance.


there's a clear trend established for this team, that goes back to even before the 2011 superbowl.
RE: RE: Prediction  
BigBlueJ : 8/29/2015 9:33 pm : link
In comment 12442138 Essex said:
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In comment 12442119 Headhunter said:


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nobody will be talking about the preseason week 2


Yeah we will just be upset that we are 0-2. Please give me one reason for optimism based on anything you have seen from the starters in the preseason



BBI looks in excellent shape for the season.
RE: RE: Prediction  
Mister Charming : 8/29/2015 9:33 pm : link
In comment 12442138 Essex said:
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In comment 12442119 Headhunter said:


Quote:


nobody will be talking about the preseason week 2


Yeah we will just be upset that we are 0-2. Please give me one reason for optimism based on anything you have seen from the starters in the preseason


It's called false hope. Ray Charles could see how pathetic this team will be.
TC and Reese should go along with big contracts to be honest  
Mason : 8/29/2015 9:33 pm : link
But I don't know who is making real decisions here anymore. You have Chris Mara at the Kentucky Derby during the draft, Chris Snee (is he still on the payroll and what is his job description WTF) breaking down OL prospects with Flaherty , you have executive scouts and assistant coaches making day 3 calls on players they like. I can't imagine this was normal during Wellington Mara days with George Young.
Some of the losses in recent seasons  
NewBlue : 8/29/2015 9:34 pm : link
Were embarrassing, Carolina 2 years ago the week that TC lost his brother...the team did not respond....The Baltimore game 2 Decembers ago, John Mara spoke of how embarrassed he was.
The Cincinnati game the year of Sandy.....team never showed up....I recall a New Orleans shit show as well as Seattle and other non-competitive games.

RE: RE: Pugh does stink  
Mister Charming : 8/29/2015 9:34 pm : link
In comment 12442147 EricJ said:
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In comment 12442129 Mister Charming said:


Quote:


But I'm not sure why Prince gets so much love. I think he's an average corner, at best.



Prince is "ok". I am not worried at all when I see him out there. However, the opposition does not fear him at all and he is not a difference maker. Nothing wrong with that BTW.

Like Ross, Prince also has not played up to his draft position. When you take a guy that high you expect him to be a little more than average.


Or play 8 games in a season.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/29/2015 9:34 pm : link
New York Giants ‏@Giants 1m1 minute ago

Injury Update: Safety Josh Gordy is out with a hip injury #NYJvsNYG
False hope?  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 9:34 pm : link
Where did I say they were a good football team? All I said is I'll wait till October
RE: RE: RE: Prediction  
jawebb20 : 8/29/2015 9:35 pm : link
In comment 12442150 BigBlueJ said:
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In comment 12442138 Essex said:


Quote:


In comment 12442119 Headhunter said:


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nobody will be talking about the preseason week 2


Yeah we will just be upset that we are 0-2. Please give me one reason for optimism based on anything you have seen from the starters in the preseason




BBI looks in excellent shape for the season.


Lets throw some more dirt around:

Fact:

Eric thought Eli was damaged goods entering the 2014 season.
freakin bruce beck  
sundayatone : 8/29/2015 9:35 pm : link
annoying
Still not worried about the offense while  
Giants2012 : 8/29/2015 9:35 pm : link
the defense just doesn't look very talented despite a scheme less game.
jawebb20  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/29/2015 9:36 pm : link
I didn't say he was damaged goods. I said there was a question about whether he was damaged goods.
Gordy  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 9:36 pm : link
is out.
They are still mixing and matching looking at players  
HomerJones45 : 8/29/2015 9:36 pm : link
and I have a feeling we are going to pick some people up off the waiver wire. We've got some holes and the people we have are not adequate to fill those positions.
RE: RE: RE: I don't know how some of you think that TC is the problem here...  
Essex : 8/29/2015 9:36 pm : link
In comment 12442141 dpinzow said:
Quote:
In comment 12442126 Essex said:


Quote:


In comment 12442111 EricJ said:


Quote:


when it is clearly the talent level. Lets put a 10 finger JPP back on the field and also Beatty. Now, how much better is this team realistically. Marginally better at best.

So, what coach do you want to bring in now? Who exactly is going to turn this bunch of misfit toys into a championship team?


I am not really impressed with the talent level in Philly and they have won 20 games in th last two years.



Good lines, good skill positions at least the last two years outside of QB


They had s good offensive line, no doubt, but it was banged up last year and they still won. qb is a pretty big position and Riley Cooper was second receiver both years. And, of course, they had miserable defenses and talent on defense
RE: Because it is glorified practice  
baadbill : 8/29/2015 9:36 pm : link
In comment 12442145 Headhunter said:
Quote:
and the regular season is a different game.


Yea, I've watched every snap of every pre-season and regular season game for over 50 years ... pre-season win/loss records are always meaningless ... but anyone with any kind of football sense has always been able to see evidence of the existence of talent (or lack thereof) during pre-season games ... LT was LT ... Banks was Banks ... Bavaro was Bavaro .. and the 1970s were the 1970s - and sadly, there was more talent in the 1970s than there is now
RE: ...  
Mason : 8/29/2015 9:36 pm : link
In comment 12442157 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
New York Giants ‏@Giants 1m1 minute ago

Injury Update: Safety Josh Gordy is out with a hip injury #NYJvsNYG


WOW!! I mean come on man.
Giants player catches a punt  
Gman11 : 8/29/2015 9:37 pm : link
There's a guy in his face.

On the Jets td there was nobody within 15 yards of the guy when he made the catch.
RE: False hope?  
EricJ : 8/29/2015 9:38 pm : link
In comment 12442158 Headhunter said:
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Where did I say they were a good football team? All I said is I'll wait till October


One thing I will say in support of what you just said...
I can remember sitting in my seats mid season in 2007 saying this team sucks and they have no shot. We won the Superbowl. So, yes a team can put it together.

Reality is that team had more talent but was just underachieving during a stretch that year.
Except for one pass,  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 9:38 pm : link
Nassib looks like he's throwing darts
same stupid play  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 9:38 pm : link
McAdoo apparently loves that QB naked roll out to the right. Without fail, the QB gets hurried or sacked.
RE: RE: Because it is glorified practice  
sundayatone : 8/29/2015 9:38 pm : link
In comment 12442169 baadbill said:
[quote] In comment 12442145 Headhunter said:


Quote:


and the regular season is a different game.



Yea, I've watched every snap of every pre-season and regular season game for over 50 years ... pre-season win/loss records are always meaningless ... but anyone with any kind of football sense has always been able to see evidence of the existence of talent (or lack thereof) during pre-season games ... LT was LT ... Banks was Banks ... Bavaro was Bavaro .. and the 1970s were the 1970s - and sadly, there was more talent in the 1970s than there is now [/quotte


eli>?
RE: Giants player catches a punt  
jawebb20 : 8/29/2015 9:39 pm : link
In comment 12442171 Gman11 said:
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There's a guy in his face.

On the Jets td there was nobody within 15 yards of the guy when he made the catch.


Not only that, he made a sidestep before choosing his lane.
Davis  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 9:39 pm : link
was limping after that nice catch.
I've been watching as long as you  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 9:39 pm : link
if you could tell me the seasons they were favored and fell apart and the seasons they weren't expected to contend and won a Super Bowl. You are talking out of your ass
RE: Giants player catches a punt  
Mister Charming : 8/29/2015 9:39 pm : link
In comment 12442171 Gman11 said:
Quote:
There's a guy in his face.

On the Jets td there was nobody within 15 yards of the guy when he made the catch.


If you've watched this team over the last ten years, this would be called the norm.
Brett Jones at  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 9:39 pm : link
C looks awkward and unathletic
RE: same stupid play  
Mason : 8/29/2015 9:40 pm : link
In comment 12442176 D_Giants said:
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McAdoo apparently loves that QB naked roll out to the right. Without fail, the QB gets hurried or sacked.


I truly hope that McAdoo has been holding back this preseason because a lot of the play calling has been suspect as well.
midway through 2007  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 9:40 pm : link
The Giants were 6-2
hunt  
sundayatone : 8/29/2015 9:40 pm : link
david wilson like
Regarding Nassib..  
EricJ : 8/29/2015 9:40 pm : link
I have been extremely critical of him over the past couple of years. Maybe 6 months ago (or less) I said he would never be a quality starting QB in this league.

From what I am seeing so far this pre season, he seems to be improving and he can move the team. Would like to see him in there with the #1 unit. Unfortunately we will not get that chance.
Cunningham  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 9:41 pm : link
is going to be a superstar with this team. I hope they don't put him on the practice squad; he won't stay there for long.
RE: I've been watching as long as you  
jawebb20 : 8/29/2015 9:41 pm : link
In comment 12442182 Headhunter said:
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if you could tell me the seasons they were favored and fell apart and the seasons they weren't expected to contend and won a Super Bowl. You are talking out of your ass


2008

/thread
RE: midway through 2007  
EricJ : 8/29/2015 9:41 pm : link
In comment 12442188 Route 9 in LEH said:
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The Giants were 6-2

Then it wasn't mid way. AT some point they were sliding. Hey man, it was like 8 years ago. I cannot remember what I had for breakfast yesterday.
The only thing predictable about the Giants for the  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 9:41 pm : link
last 15 years is how unpredictable they are.
Not Able to Watch  
Percy : 8/29/2015 9:41 pm : link
But it sounds like that's a good thing. Maybe this is the year to take a pass on this team. Get back into it when our top 5 draft choice becomes a certainty.
Nice  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 9:42 pm : link
catch by Cunningham, and a good run by Hunt. He's quick.
RE: Brett Jones at  
Mister Charming : 8/29/2015 9:42 pm : link
In comment 12442185 Steve Filipowicz said:
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C looks awkward and unathletic


That's because he is awkward and unathletic or according to management, a huge free agent signing.
RE: Not Able to Watch  
BigBlueJ : 8/29/2015 9:43 pm : link
In comment 12442196 Percy said:
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But it sounds like that's a good thing. Maybe this is the year to take a pass on this team. Get back into it when our top 5 draft choice becomes a certainty.


LOL.. Please promise you will do that.
Nassib having a very nice game.  
Andy in Halifax : 8/29/2015 9:43 pm : link
.
Mister Charming  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 9:44 pm : link
another troll
Yeah, he looks good.  
Britt in VA : 8/29/2015 9:44 pm : link
.
Great  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 9:44 pm : link
catch by Talley.
if we stink, why pay eli  
sundayatone : 8/29/2015 9:44 pm : link
see what nassib can do,think outside the box for a change.no rule you have to pay for the past.
All I keep thinking is  
blueblood : 8/29/2015 9:45 pm : link
its going to be a long season.. I dont expect this team to start coming together until at least week 6...
Davis, Cunningham, and Hunt .... !!!  
short lease : 8/29/2015 9:45 pm : link
Nice.
RE: RE: I've been watching as long as you  
Mason : 8/29/2015 9:45 pm : link
In comment 12442193 jawebb20 said:
Quote:
In comment 12442182 Headhunter said:


Quote:


if you could tell me the seasons they were favored and fell apart and the seasons they weren't expected to contend and won a Super Bowl. You are talking out of your ass



2008

/thread


Were they really favored in 2008? I recall that they were disrespected even as SB champs and Dallas was picked to win the division. I remember a lot of Giants players kept making that point throughout 2008. I think they exceeded everyone expectation and then Plax shot himself.
RE: if we stink, why pay eli  
BigBlueJ : 8/29/2015 9:45 pm : link
In comment 12442205 sundayatone said:
Quote:
see what nassib can do,think outside the box for a change.no rule you have to pay for the past.


<groans>
In July we had a Miss Charming who was banned  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 9:45 pm : link
in August we get Mr Charming
RE: Cunningham  
Johnny Boy : 8/29/2015 9:45 pm : link
In comment 12442192 D_Giants said:
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is going to be a superstar with this team. I hope they don't put him on the practice squad; he won't stay there for long.


What about the JPP of tight e
ands?
Nassib  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 9:46 pm : link
Nassib makes our score, irrelevant as it might be, respectable. Good passing helped by his excellent mobility. It seems our backups have played better against opposing backups than our first string against opposing first string. If TC allows young players to play more and develop, by mid-season our team could improve significantly.
Can Hunt return  
Jay in Toronto : 8/29/2015 9:46 pm : link
Punts?
RE: if we stink, why pay eli  
EricJ : 8/29/2015 9:47 pm : link
In comment 12442205 sundayatone said:
Quote:
see what nassib can do,think outside the box for a change.no rule you have to pay for the past.


LMAO... yeah we should dump a 2 time SB MVP just because the backup is playing well against other backups.
Staten not showing much at DT  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 9:48 pm : link
Bars from DE makes tackle 5 yards downfield from LDE.on run up middleNot bad
Johnny  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 9:48 pm : link
In comment 12442212 Johnny Boy said:
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is going to be a superstar with this team. I hope they don't put him on the practice squad; he won't stay there for long.



What about the JPP of tight e
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I hope the JPP of TEs does not beat out Cunningham. The politics of management, however, sometimes dictates keeping higher draft picks over better players.
Very few individuals  
NewBlue : 8/29/2015 9:48 pm : link
Impressing here late in the game. Remember last year when Washington had such a fabulous preseason...not that it translated to anything
Quite frankly......  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 9:49 pm : link
if we can't run or stop the run, it will be a very long season and so until that gets fixed, were in trouble.
Ooops  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 9:49 pm : link
Bohanon takes Bars for 5 yd ride on his back
It usually doesn't translate  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 9:50 pm : link
We could very well be mediocre or outright stink, but I never know what they are from preseason
The  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 9:51 pm : link
injuries magnify a poor roster, but even completely healthy, we're still bereft of great players outside of Eli and Beckham.
jerry reese is this teams  
sundayatone : 8/29/2015 9:51 pm : link
biggest problem,need to go outside the org for a new and fresh perspective.young to accorsi to reese,all in house guys.its not working at this point in time.
RE: RE: RE: I've been watching as long as you  
jawebb20 : 8/29/2015 9:51 pm : link
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if you could tell me the seasons they were favored and fell apart and the seasons they weren't expected to contend and won a Super Bowl. You are talking out of your ass



2008

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Were they really favored in 2008? I recall that they were disrespected even as SB champs and Dallas was picked to win the division. I remember a lot of Giants players kept making that point throughout 2008. I think they exceeded everyone expectation and then Plax shot himself.


Everyone thinsk they are disrespected.

SEA always plays that card
RE: Quite frankly......  
Mister Charming : 8/29/2015 9:52 pm : link
In comment 12442219 Simms11 said:
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if we can't run or stop the run, it will be a very long season and so until that gets fixed, were in trouble.


An ongoing theme with this team.
That LB with the long hair...  
EricJ : 8/29/2015 9:52 pm : link
has been dragged 3-4 yards after contact way too often
Agreed - Reese needs to go  
Jim Burt64 : 8/29/2015 9:53 pm : link
,
RE: The  
Britt in VA : 8/29/2015 9:53 pm : link
In comment 12442226 AcidTest said:
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injuries magnify a poor roster, but even completely healthy, we're still bereft of great players outside of Eli and Beckham.


Agreed.
RE: jerry reese is this teams  
EricJ : 8/29/2015 9:53 pm : link
In comment 12442227 sundayatone said:
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biggest problem,need to go outside the org for a new and fresh perspective.young to accorsi to reese,all in house guys.its not working at this point in time.


Even George Young started to lose it towards the end. Too many trips to Ruts Hut
Giants know Jets are running  
Simms11 : 8/29/2015 9:54 pm : link
and we still can't stop them!
I think Robinson has been the best Giants TE this preseason  
Mason : 8/29/2015 9:54 pm : link
Followed by Cunningham and Fells.

Donnell has done nothing this preseason to indicate why he should be a starter. Since that Redskins game....I don't see it.
RE: RE: if we stink, why pay eli  
sundayatone : 8/29/2015 9:54 pm : link
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see what nassib can do,think outside the box for a change.no rule you have to pay for the past.



LMAO... yeah we should dump a 2 time SB MVP just because the backup is playing well against other backups.



its 2015 dude,2007 and 2011 were like 70rs ago.
RE: jerry reese is this teams  
Mister Charming : 8/29/2015 9:54 pm : link
In comment 12442227 sundayatone said:
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biggest problem,need to go outside the org for a new and fresh perspective.young to accorsi to reese,all in house guys.its not working at this point in time.


Not with this organization. They're more likely to dig up George Young.
RE: RE: jerry reese is this teams  
sundayatone : 8/29/2015 9:55 pm : link
In comment 12442235 EricJ said:
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biggest problem,need to go outside the org for a new and fresh perspective.young to accorsi to reese,all in house guys.its not working at this point in time.



Even George Young started to lose it towards the end. Too many trips to Ruts Hut



love those rippers with fries on a cold day.
Wow  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 9:55 pm : link
Jerry Reese has to go based on preseason games, this place is going downhill to the level of Giants.com
The giants looked  
Old Dirty Beckham : 8/29/2015 9:56 pm : link
Just as bad or worse in the preseason last year. at 3-2 nobody was talking preseason. Team will improve with time. Habe to manage the early part of the season
....  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2015 9:56 pm : link
Nice Raven's logo by the Redskins name lol
Reese  
AcidTest : 8/29/2015 9:56 pm : link
isn't going anywhere. When was the last time the Giants fired a GM? If the team tanks, the coaching staff will be cleaned out.
We will see soon enough that  
NewBlue : 8/29/2015 9:56 pm : link
This preseason shit show is the real thing....The defense figures to be the worst unit, but the offense won't be able to rush the ball because we don't have the horses up front, that is a bad combination
RE: Wow  
Johnny Boy : 8/29/2015 9:57 pm : link
In comment 12442245 Headhunter said:
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Jerry Reese has to go based on preseason games, this place is going downhill to the level of Giants.com


Time to start contemplating a top 5 draft pick at least!
RE: RE: RE: RE: I've been watching as long as you  
Mason : 8/29/2015 9:57 pm : link
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if you could tell me the seasons they were favored and fell apart and the seasons they weren't expected to contend and won a Super Bowl. You are talking out of your ass



2008

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Were they really favored in 2008? I recall that they were disrespected even as SB champs and Dallas was picked to win the division. I remember a lot of Giants players kept making that point throughout 2008. I think they exceeded everyone expectation and then Plax shot himself.



Everyone thinsk they are disrespected.

SEA always plays that card


No I mean the majority of the sports writers really did disrespect them by picking Dallas to win the 2008 NFC East.
Stanton and Staten not  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 9:57 pm : link
showing much. Got overpowered on 3d and 2.
The more I watch this team  
Danny Kanell : 8/29/2015 9:57 pm : link
The more I realize this is a pretty awful football team.

Maybe we get lucky and Eli goes off this season and carries us into the playoffs. If not, it's time for a franchise reboot. This team, especially the defense, it's fucking awful. Jaguar level awful, just with Eli and a great receiver.

There are some just god awful players taking up a lot of valuable prime space on our depth chart.
Trolls like Mr Charming taking over  
Headhunter : 8/29/2015 9:57 pm : link
game day threads. The regular season comes, I go back to avoiding the game threads
RE: RE: RE: if we stink, why pay eli  
section125 : 8/29/2015 9:58 pm : link
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its 2015 dude,2007 and 2011 were like 70rs ago.


like dude, man, dude it was like, you know, 4 years ago. dude, you may need, like, you know, a calculator...dude.
RE: Reese  
sundayatone : 8/29/2015 9:58 pm : link
In comment 12442250 AcidTest said:
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isn't going anywhere. When was the last time the Giants fired a GM? If the team tanks, the coaching staff will be cleaned out.



i think the kennedy admin.
missed Eli's pick  
Andy in Boston : 8/29/2015 9:58 pm : link
can anyone tell me what happened on his int?
Thanks in advance.
RE: The more I watch this team  
BigBlueJ : 8/29/2015 9:58 pm : link
In comment 12442256 Danny Kanell said:
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The more I realize this is a pretty awful football team.

Maybe we get lucky and Eli goes off this season and carries us into the playoffs. If not, it's time for a franchise reboot. This team, especially the defense, it's fucking awful. Jaguar level awful, just with Eli and a great receiver.

There are some just god awful players taking up a lot of valuable prime space on our depth chart.


Can we cut you too?
RE: Wow  
Mister Charming : 8/29/2015 9:58 pm : link
In comment 12442245 Headhunter said:
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Jerry Reese has to go based on preseason games, this place is going downhill to the level of Giants.com


Wrong. How about 3 seasons with no playoffs going on 4. Take those glasss off.
RE: The giants looked  
Essex : 8/29/2015 9:58 pm : link
In comment 12442247 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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Just as bad or worse in the preseason last year. at 3-2 nobody was talking preseason. Team will improve with time. Habe to manage the early part of the season

We won 6 games and drafted at what spot?
RE: Stanton and Staten not  
HomerJones45 : 8/29/2015 9:59 pm : link
In comment 12442254 Steve Filipowicz said:
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showing much. Got overpowered on 3d and 2.
You want to see why Kuhn, who is not much, is starting, look who is in back of him.
RE: The giants looked  
RDJR : 8/29/2015 9:59 pm : link
In comment 12442247 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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Just as bad or worse in the preseason last year. at 3-2 nobody was talking preseason. Team will improve with time. Habe to manage the early part of the season


Not sure of the relevance of that. We stunk last season. Oh that's right, it was all injuries.
Stapleton doesn't want us to go crazy on  
Steve Filipowicz : 8/29/2015 9:59 pm : link
Nassib because he's playing against Jets reserves. But Nassib is throwing to possession WRs and not much of an OL
The more I watch this team  
Danny Kanell : 8/29/2015 10:00 pm : link
The more I realize this is a pretty awful football team.

Maybe we get lucky and Eli goes off this season and carries us into the playoffs. If not, it's time for a franchise reboot. This team, especially the defense, it's fucking awful. Jaguar level awful, just with Eli and a great receiver.

There are some just god awful players taking up a lot of valuable prime space on our depth chart.
RE: RE: RE: RE: if we stink, why pay eli  
sundayatone : 8/29/2015 10:00 pm : link
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its 2015 dude,2007 and 2011 were like 70rs ago.



like dude, man, dude it was like, you know, 4 years ago. dude, you may need, like, you know, a calculator...dude.



listen,4 yrs in football are like dog years,so its been like 28yrs dude.
.  
Danny Kanell : 8/29/2015 10:00 pm : link
Sorry for the double post
Streaky  
D_Giants : 8/29/2015 10:00 pm : link
This team is the streakiest football unit: they string wins and losses. Recall the seasons with 6-2 starts? In the past two we start out with essentially (long) losing streaks and more or less win out. I wonder how it will start this year.
RE: RE: Stanton and Staten not  
BigBlueJ : 8/29/2015 10:00 pm : link
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showing much. Got overpowered on 3d and 2.

You want to see why Kuhn, who is not much, is starting, look who is in back of him.


Those guys don't make the team.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: if we stink, why pay eli  
section125 : 8/29/2015 10:04 pm : link
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listen,4 yrs in football are like dog years,so its been like 28yrs dude.


moron
will we play meaningful games after thanksgiving  
sundayatone : 8/29/2015 10:05 pm : link
what say you bbi nation?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: if we stink, why pay eli  
EricJ : 8/29/2015 10:05 pm : link
In comment 12442273 sundayatone said:
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its 2015 dude,2007 and 2011 were like 70rs ago.



like dude, man, dude it was like, you know, 4 years ago. dude, you may need, like, you know, a calculator...dude.




listen,4 yrs in football are like dog years,so its been like 28yrs dude.


You never understood the point of the original post. Does not matter what year it was you narrow minded hot dog eating (on a cold day) sub par Giants fan. The point was that it was a season where the team at some point looked absolutely awful and yet they managed to put it all together to win the Superbowl. So, yes it is just pre-season and anything can happen....because it happens in this game no matter what year.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: if we stink, why pay eli  
sundayatone : 8/29/2015 10:06 pm : link
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listen,4 yrs in football are like dog years,so its been like 28yrs dude.



moron


loser
RE: will we play meaningful games after thanksgiving  
EricJ : 8/29/2015 10:06 pm : link
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what say you bbi nation?


Thanksgiving is like 3 years away from now....lol
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: if we stink, why pay eli  
sundayatone : 8/29/2015 10:07 pm : link
In comment 12442286 EricJ said:
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its 2015 dude,2007 and 2011 were like 70rs ago.



like dude, man, dude it was like, you know, 4 years ago. dude, you may need, like, you know, a calculator...dude.




listen,4 yrs in football are like dog years,so its been like 28yrs dude.



You never understood the point of the original post. Does not matter what year it was you narrow minded hot dog eating (on a cold day) sub par Giants fan. The point was that it was a season where the team at some point looked absolutely awful and yet they managed to put it all together to win the Superbowl. So, yes it is just pre-season and anything can happen....because it happens in this game no matter what year.



thanks for playin,drive home safe.
RE: RE: will we play meaningful games after thanksgiving  
sundayatone : 8/29/2015 10:08 pm : link
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what say you bbi nation?



Thanksgiving is like 3 years away from now....lol



funny
The preseason means nothing  
Mister Charming : 8/29/2015 10:09 pm : link
Unless of course they finished 4-0, which would make them Super Bowl contenders.
RE: will we play meaningful games after thanksgiving  
Mister Charming : 8/29/2015 10:11 pm : link
In comment 12442284 sundayatone said:
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With that offensive line, the question should be, does Eli make it to thanksgiving?
Never follow game threads during season  
joeinpa : 8/29/2015 10:20 pm : link
Too into the game. However don t get most preseason games live so decided to watch NFL Channel and BBI for live updates.

Have to say bbi was very entertaining, hysterical and silly at times, but entertaining.

My only take on the game is in line with Headhunter and others whose sentiment is, It s only preseason and no indicator of the regular season for many reasons.

Fans often overreact to the last play they see when evaluating a player or team this game thread is a great example of that
RE: will we play meaningful games after thanksgiving  
santacruzom : 8/29/2015 10:23 pm : link
In comment 12442284 sundayatone said:
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what say you bbi nation?


Thanksgiving? Hell, how about Halloween?
RE: The preseason means nothing  
Vanzetti : 8/29/2015 11:27 pm : link
In comment 12442297 Mister Charming said:
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Unless of course they finished 4-0, which would make them Super Bowl contenders.


If they win the first regular season game, they will be super bowl favorites.
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